The new AI Rule.

[Agbe]

I assume we'd go for something similar to the plagiarism rule of 80%+. But also don't really understand how accurate these AI detectors are, or how easy/difficult it'd be to reach say 50% without using AI at all. There's always been the guide to "rewrite [...] in your own words" or "rephrase the content" in order to avoid plagiarism, so I also assume this would apply to AI content as well.

This has been discussed many times in other forum though it's not everyone buy the idea and that is whey plagiarism and AI posters are still treated separately if not as for me they are one. The punishment that is given to plagiarism posters should also be given to AI posters. Once the person is caught using AI, the plagiarism badge should be issued to him or her. Though AI detectors can't tell the 100% detection because someone that is good with English grammar, can write well and the AI would detect the person has AI user. And I have seen such situation in the other forum. So the best way is AI and plagiarism are one

[KingsDen]

  Though AI detectors can't tell the 100% detection because someone that is good with English grammar, can write well and the AI would detect the person has AI user. And I have seen such situation in the other forum. So the best way is AI and plagiarism are one

I can sense some kind of contradiction here. You acknowledged that there's no ideal tool for AI detection. Then, you also acknowledge that AI mistreat some exceptional English grammar as AI generated texts. Then you went ahead to say that AI generated text should be treated as plagiarism. Well, that is when it is truly established that it is an AI text.

[Jokers]

The punishment that is given to plagiarism posters should also be given to AI posters.

If those who use AI in their posts have an additional badge, it doesn't mean they don't get the plagiarist badge if they don't understand the warnings.

[Agbe]

  Though AI detectors can't tell the 100% detection because someone that is good with English grammar, can write well and the AI would detect the person has AI user. And I have seen such situation in the other forum. So the best way is AI and plagiarism are one

I can sense some kind of contradiction here. You acknowledged that there's no ideal tool for AI detection. Then, you also acknowledge that AI mistreat some exceptional English grammar as AI generated texts. Then you went ahead to say that AI generated text should be treated as plagiarism. Well, that is when it is truly established that it is an AI text.

Yes I have seen AI detectors in the other forum accused someone I know of using AI in which the person is not using AI and for that the AI detectors can't give the 100% accuracy and lastly I didn't see any different between AI and plagiarism. So is there any contradiction here. There was no contradiction but misunderstanding which I also discovered. If someone copied what has been written by another person and bring to the forum and used it as his own there automatically it is a plagiarism be a AI. Unless the person. Edit it to his own way of understanding.

[bayu7adi]

Yes I have seen AI detectors in the other forum accused someone I know of using AI in which the person is not using AI and for that the AI detectors can't give the 100% accuracy and lastly I didn't see any different between AI and plagiarism. So is there any contradiction here. There was no contradiction but misunderstanding which I also discovered. If someone copied what has been written by another person and bring to the forum and used it as his own there automatically it is a plagiarism be a AI. Unless the person. Edit it to his own way of understanding.

Usually writing that uses AI can be felt using our own feelings when reading it... the general characteristic of writing made by humans is that the sentence structure is sometimes messy... while AI users will get almost perfect writing...

I agree more with the idea that the human brain produces is an original work... whether it will be fixed using grammarly or the word structure will be corrected to make it easier to understand using other tools, what is certain is that it is the brainchild of humans and remains on topic, I don't think it will be considered an AI post, even though AI detects it as non-human-made content...

[target]

Yes I have seen AI detectors in the other forum accused someone I know of using AI in which the person is not using AI and for that the AI detectors can't give the 100% accuracy and lastly I didn't see any different between AI and plagiarism. So is there any contradiction here. There was no contradiction but misunderstanding which I also discovered. If someone copied what has been written by another person and bring to the forum and used it as his own there automatically it is a plagiarism be a AI. Unless the person. Edit it to his own way of understanding.

Usually writing that uses AI can be felt using our own feelings when reading it... the general characteristic of writing made by humans is that the sentence structure is sometimes messy... while AI users will get almost perfect writing...

I agree more with the idea that the human brain produces is an original work... whether it will be fixed using grammarly or the word structure will be corrected to make it easier to understand using other tools, what is certain is that it is the brainchild of humans and remains on topic, I don't think it will be considered an AI post, even though AI detects it as non-human-made content...

Grammarly seem an AI as well but meant to correct grammar and sometimes it will completely rearrange the sentence structure which I think the AI detectors will also consider it written by AIs.

This could be the reason why admin is considering the posts as long as it's just less than 30%. I guess editing what AIs have provided for those AI users are fine, whether they spin them or completely rewritting them will be best.