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Re: Speculator are to blame for Btc dumps, is this True?
« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2025, 02:32:55 PM »
There is a single "thing" that is to be blamed for the situation and that is the orange clown sitting in the WhiteHouse.
If it hadn't been for him, there would be nothing to speculate about, simple as that.

Big whales are to be blame for BTC dumps because these speculators are small they don't have enough money to pump or dump the BTC but these whales have big impact. Although mostly say, we can't dump and pump BTC price but whales can easily do that.

Well, everyone blames the whales for dumps but nobody is grateful for the pumps when they are buying in...weird  ;)

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Re: Speculator are to blame for Btc dumps, is this True?
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Re: Speculator are to blame for Btc dumps, is this True?
« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2025, 06:24:53 PM »


Getting into the blame game is not actually something people should NOT focus on...instead we have to concentrate on how to make money when the market is up and when the market is down. Nobody can stop speculators...and I don't think the market will be the same if we delete these people from the scene. Of course, nobody can stop speculators because this is already a free market where all may try to influence the market in the direction one may wish to happen. Maybe we should instead discuss if there is a possibility that speculators can be removed from the market and what would happen if they would be gone.

It will be difficult to remove speculators from the market, a free market just like you said, and speculation is also a free market options for every traders/ investors, others. There are certain things which can never be removed because Btc is a decentralized ecosystem, not controlled by any body and the only means to identify everyone that are involved from its activities is through transactions addresses, unfortunately, some addresses may be dormant for long periods. Again, if everyone can influence the market, then it is obvious that speculation could be some traders/investors trading strategies and is part of crypto business. This is my view.
whales can manipulate the market, this is the reality that we see. and they have a community to be able to manipulate the market because it takes a lot of capital to be able to do it.
Maybe [speculators blame bitcoin for falling, but I think the current price of bitcoin is falling because of the influence of the tariff war between the US and China, not the actions of whales.

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Re: Speculator are to blame for Btc dumps, is this True?
« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2025, 01:03:15 AM »


Getting into the blame game is not actually something people should NOT focus on...instead we have to concentrate on how to make money when the market is up and when the market is down. Nobody can stop speculators...and I don't think the market will be the same if we delete these people from the scene. Of course, nobody can stop speculators because this is already a free market where all may try to influence the market in the direction one may wish to happen. Maybe we should instead discuss if there is a possibility that speculators can be removed from the market and what would happen if they would be gone.

It will be difficult to remove speculators from the market, a free market just like you said, and speculation is also a free market options for every traders/ investors, others. There are certain things which can never be removed because Btc is a decentralized ecosystem, not controlled by any body and the only means to identify everyone that are involved from its activities is through transactions addresses, unfortunately, some addresses may be dormant for long periods. Again, if everyone can influence the market, then it is obvious that speculation could be some traders/investors trading strategies and is part of crypto business. This is my view.
whales can manipulate the market, this is the reality that we see. and they have a community to be able to manipulate the market because it takes a lot of capital to be able to do it.
Maybe [speculators blame bitcoin for falling, but I think the current price of bitcoin is falling because of the influence of the tariff war between the US and China, not the actions of whales.
For me that is expected from speculators, they are going to sell no matter what the circumstances, and only for one thing, to make profit. I do not think that they are selling to manipulate, perhaps that is the role of whales and maybe speculators follow them. But then again, the market is big enough for everyone, speculators, average joe investors, whales and so it's very hard to manipulate it even if they have billions here. And it doesn't make sense for whales to manipulate the market as they already have a huge amount in their wallet. So there is no one to blame for the crash.
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Re: Speculator are to blame for Btc dumps, is this True?
« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2025, 10:51:07 PM »
Well, everyone blames the whales for dumps but nobody is grateful for the pumps when they are buying in...weird  ;)
That's right, we should not only blame them for the bad but for the good too and I did mentioned dump and pump both together, but it might sound like I am trying to say they are the main cause for the dumps and that's true too but when pumps happen they are also a good reason, but not that big as they are in dump.

Whales have their place and work, no one should blame no one, we should blame only ourselves  ;)
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Re: Speculator are to blame for Btc dumps, is this True?
« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2025, 01:07:27 AM »
There is a single "thing" that is to be blamed for the situation and that is the orange clown sitting in the WhiteHouse.
If it hadn't been for him, there would be nothing to speculate about, simple as that.

Big whales are to be blame for BTC dumps because these speculators are small they don't have enough money to pump or dump the BTC but these whales have big impact. Although mostly say, we can't dump and pump BTC price but whales can easily do that.

Well, everyone blames the whales for dumps but nobody is grateful for the pumps when they are buying in...weird  ;)

It's because we are happy when we see the price going up and being pump by this whales.

Not saying that we are ungrateful, but in life we only see the bad side of things or even people that we know. And with that, it is the same in every aspect even in crypto. That we blame the whales for dumping, but when we have a good pump, we don't give credit to them.  :)

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Re: Speculator are to blame for Btc dumps, is this True?
« Reply #20 on: April 23, 2025, 11:16:17 AM »
There is a single "thing" that is to be blamed for the situation and that is the orange clown sitting in the WhiteHouse.
If it hadn't been for him, there would be nothing to speculate about, simple as that.

Big whales are to be blame for BTC dumps because these speculators are small they don't have enough money to pump or dump the BTC but these whales have big impact. Although mostly say, we can't dump and pump BTC price but whales can easily do that.

Well, everyone blames the whales for dumps but nobody is grateful for the pumps when they are buying in...weird  ;)

It's because we are happy when we see the price going up and being pump by this whales.

Not saying that we are ungrateful, but in life we only see the bad side of things or even people that we know. And with that, it is the same in every aspect even in crypto. That we blame the whales for dumping, but when we have a good pump, we don't give credit to them.  :)
Blaming one party that is even a market driver like the Pope is not going to be a solution, It's about how fundamentals are played by influential people like the people in the white house as @Stompix said, they play the market with a positive narrative at first but then there is no response whatsoever about bitcoin and such.

Whales just like retail traders want to profit from the trades made, they have more money and will have an effect on the rise and fall of market prices in the meantime.

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Re: Speculator are to blame for Btc dumps, is this True?
« Reply #21 on: April 23, 2025, 11:34:13 AM »
If the market truly works with the principles of demands and supplies, taking calculated steps in trading and investing will not be too difficult, except with the influence of economic development or decline, as it won't be difficult to articulate the direction of the market. Speculators yes, have their part to take from the blame on why Bitcoin is on a dump, yet whales also have their own effect on the price dump on Bitcoin as well. With an overview, there will always be speculators as we will always have some big whales, very rich and wealthy people, who when they speak, their influence goes across the world and the stock/crypto market.

There are numerous factors that are all together that causes the dump in the price of Bitcoin.market,
  you're right the cryptocurrency market, including Bitcoin is influence by various factors. I think buying and selling activities can impact market sentiment and  price movement. also large scale investors can significantly influence the market with their transactions,the interplay withing these factors creates complex market dynamics.

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Re: Speculator are to blame for Btc dumps, is this True?
« Reply #22 on: April 24, 2025, 11:49:34 AM »
Maybe, but i don’t sure it will be main reason for dumb bitcoin in cryptocurrency market. We know that bitcoin is one of the best profitable crypto in cryptocurrency world. But we also know that cryptocurrency market always depending on up and down. So i think that there will be many reason for dumping bitcoin in cryptocurrency market. I think that war will be a best source for decrease bitcoin price. But if we follow in the Worldwide, we can see that Trump’s tariff war is also be a main reason in this time.
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