Little whining about Ethereum layer 2s

[joniboini]

I also think these layer 2 projects failed to solve the problem they promised to solve right now. It's still pretty expensive to interact with smart contract calls when I use Linea, not sure whether they have a plan to fix that or not considering how often they farm fees. If there are no airdrops or something similar I'm sure these projects will die quickly. Then again there's a chance they will introduce a new trend to make their project stay relevant, with how easy it is to spam ads on Twitter right now.

[ABCbits]

That's true when there is low activity these chains are fine to use, but what I mean is if you can't handle the high activity, what exactly is point of you to exist?

That is the problem most Layer 1 chains faced and now the Layer 2 are going through the same phase. That is why Layer 3 chains have come into existence doing the same thing on Layer 2. I feel we may in the future see a Layer 4 if the Layer 3 goes through the same crisis.

I hope it wouldn't happen. I recall there are over 40 operational Layer 2 for ETH where some people already confused which L2 they should choose.

[Stompix]

I hope it wouldn't happen. I recall there are over 40 operational Layer 2 for ETH where some people already confused which L2 they should choose.

No, the plan is to
- create a L1.5 layer that will bridge Layer 1 alts with Layer 2 alts
- create a L3 that would bridge different L1.5 to their counterparts
- create a new -L1 layer that would act as a complete ledger of all layers
- create a new LX on top of that to allow for movement from the main ledger to any other layer

Something like a mille-feuille cake, delicious 

[MrSpasybo]

I also think these layer 2 projects failed to solve the problem they promised to solve right now. It's still pretty expensive to interact with smart contract calls when I use Linea, not sure whether they have a plan to fix that or not considering how often they farm fees. If there are no airdrops or something similar I'm sure these projects will die quickly. Then again there's a chance they will introduce a new trend to make their project stay relevant, with how easy it is to spam ads on Twitter right now.

I think Optimistic Rollups Layer-2s are working quite well and providing users with a much faster and cheaper experience than Ethereum Layer-1. Optimism, Arbitrum, and Base can really support the development of Ethereum's expanding ecosystem in this cycle, so that Ethereum can focus on larger goals like tokenization.

zK Rollups still have many problems to solve, and this is completely normal because it is a new and extremely complex technology, to the point that Vitalik Buterin has also confirmed his concerns about this issue. I think we can only expect this technology to mature in the next cycle, and in this cycle the Layer-2 trend belongs to Optimistic Rollups!

[Hamza2424]

Let's take an example of Arbitrum and Zksync, these two aim to scale ethereum, decrease congestion and provide cheaper gas fee. Meanwhile, these same two chains got congested during the airdrop claim of $arb and $zk respectively.

I just find this infuriating a bit, you are meant to be a scaling solution and can't handle congestion yourself, what?

Hmm, well that's a valid point but that airdrop claim traffic was too loaded on the network compared to the normal circumstances because that was an ideal situation. Hundreds of thousands of transactions at the same time hmm that usually never happens, let me show you.

Some of that was the issue but yup they are a scaling solution their efficiency should be flawless, but in comparison to ETH they are still efficient maybe with some other upgrades this will get fixed.

[akeemqaz]

Let's take an example of Arbitrum and Zksync, these two aim to scale ethereum, decrease congestion and provide cheaper gas fee. Meanwhile, these same two chains got congested during the airdrop claim of $arb and $zk respectively.

I just find this infuriating a bit, you are meant to be a scaling solution and can't handle congestion yourself, what?

Actually, the layer 2 blockchain itself didn't get congested during the airdrop claiming period. The airdrop claiming app did.
These websites or apps for claiming airdrops usually have a maximum traffic capability.

[libert19]

Let's take an example of Arbitrum and Zksync, these two aim to scale ethereum, decrease congestion and provide cheaper gas fee. Meanwhile, these same two chains got congested during the airdrop claim of $arb and $zk respectively.

I just find this infuriating a bit, you are meant to be a scaling solution and can't handle congestion yourself, what?

Actually, the layer 2 blockchain itself didn't get congested during the airdrop claiming period. The airdrop claiming app did.
These websites or apps for claiming airdrops usually have a maximum traffic capability.

That's untrue, the gas fee tends to be significantly high during airdrop claim periods, it means the network itself also gets contested, plus the technically sound people claim the airdrops via interacting with smart contracts directly if the frontend doesn't work.

[Zed0X]

I guess I'm one of those people who already accepted the fact that there's no real decentralized solution. When Ethereum started it all and became popular for taking advantage of Bitcoin's network congestion, why are we still surprised about the failures of these newer projects with scaling 'solutions'? Pretty soon it will be layer 3s turn but the same problem will most likely occur.