You said some, which is right, a shitcoin is not actually a shitcoin as long the developers of it are still around, working on the project, a coin can be considered a True shitcoin if it's been abandoned by the developers, no form of marketing or development is happening with the coin any more, the telegram groups and social channels are filled with ads from initial members and supporters of the coin, this are the kind of coins I consider shitcoin, this type of coins hardly have any way chance of upward movement cus they aren't even listed on any good exchange, so for this kind of coins, hope is lost and should not even think of it waking up,. But for the coins that the developers are still around, this coins personally, I don't consider them shitcoins cus since development is still ongoing, things can change for the coin anytime the market is good.