Wait for BAT's strong recovery

[MUGNIA]

But how can you claim success when this is not backed by USD value?
If those campaigns would have been truly a continuous success and not just a one-shot then we wouldn't be here right now with those prices, this activity and this adoption and the numbers would have tripled at least! What they have right now is an almost static situation, when every coin jumped because of the good news BAT wasn't able to capitalize on the inflow and this is bad, no matter how you look at it.

People want to see results, and those are not there!

Yeah, BAT price chart is really disappointing for investors. We have to accept that not all positive developments in the project's development and operations will be absorbed into the price. Many stocks also fall when companies announce strong earnings, and the value of tokens may also depend on investor expectations rather than the project's success.

It is possible that the BAT token has been abandoned by the whales after they took profits in the bullrun 2021 because I have not seen any reports of whale accumulation of BAT token during the past period. If this happens, perhaps the BAT token can only recover to Fibo 0.618 ~ $0.7 instead of being able to create a new ATH in 2025.

In fact, the value of BAT has made no , progress at all this year, the last price has only In fact, the value of BAT has made no progress at all this year, the last price has only fallen by 0.16. Are you sure that in the next bull run you will get a new ATH?
I'm sure the whales will soon abandon this BAT coin 0.16. Are you sure that in the next bull run you will get a new ATH?

[MrSpasybo]

In fact, the value of BAT has made no progress at all this year, the last price has only fallen by 0.16. I'm sure the whales will soon abandon this BAT coin 0.16. Are you sure that in the next bull run you will get a new ATH?

I am using Brave, I love Brave and of course I love BAT token, however I myself dare not put too much expectation on BAT's growth and new ATH in this bullrun. Normally, a successful bullrun of a token often starts with a strong recovery and a long accumulation, but BAT has not shown any recovery even when BTC has reached a new ATH.

Perhaps only some kind of miracle related to the Web3 trend can bring BAT token back to the attention of investors. For this to happen, I really look forward to the growth and success of Polkadot, the Web3 trend leader, in the next few months ^^

[Stompix]

Perhaps only some kind of miracle related to the Web3 trend can bring BAT token back to the attention of investors. For this to happen, I really look forward to the growth and success of Polkadot, the Web3 trend leader, in the next few months ^^

I'm completely bearish on all these new hypes on protocols or even on meme coins, seems like a flood of it that is just oversaturating the market.
Polkadot might turn from an aspiring coin into a victim here, even if we ignore all past performance which saw it at 1/10 the price back at the last ATH in 2021, charts show it is losing steam from the last bull run in March too, alongside polygon and avax it's one of the worst performers since then.

Of course, this might be a sweet buying spot for anyone waiting for a rebound, but for the ones waiting to recoup year-long investments, it's one of the disappointments.

 

[MrSpasybo]

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I'm completely bearish on all these new hypes on protocols or even on meme coins, seems like a flood of it that is just oversaturating the market.
Polkadot might turn from an aspiring coin into a victim here, even if we ignore all past performance which saw it at 1/10 the price back at the last ATH in 2021, charts show it is losing steam from the last bull run in March too, alongside polygon and avax it's one of the worst performers since then.

Of course, this might be a sweet buying spot for anyone waiting for a rebound, but for the ones waiting to recoup year-long investments, it's one of the disappointments.

I also recognize the stagnation of projects that were once very successful in the bullrun 2021, such as Brave and Polkadot, but I tend to be more optimistic than pessimistic in this market. When the bullrun and altseason take place, most tokens will increase in price and I believe they can easily reach the 0.618 Fibonacci retracement of the winter crypto decline.

The BTC Halving has just taken place, I do not have too high expectations for the growth of most ALTS right now. In the past, BTC has reached an ATH after halving, and then created an impressive recovery and growth of many ALTS in the market. I will choose to be patient and observe the market with calmness and DCA BTC + ALTS strategy.

[Stompix]

When the bullrun and altseason take place, most tokens will increase in price and I believe they can easily reach the 0.618 Fibonacci retracement of the winter crypto decline.
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The BTC Halving has just taken place, I do not have too high expectations for the growth of most ALTS right now.

Bruh, we just had a bull season!
Solana scored an ATH, BNB did one, even if we  exclude ETH, BTC, and many other top coins there are plenty in the 1-100 ranking that have outperformed 2021. We had a bull run, even by the math for bull/bear we clearly had one for the market, we're now in a bearish trend due to the decrease, the only top coins that still cling to it are BTC ETH and TON.

Let's be realistic here, most coins had an opportunity to piggyback on BTC and do a 200% at least, some failed miserably as the old guard (EOS for example) failed in 2021,some of those top 50 will not see the next halving in top 100!

Weakness in a period when everything is green is a bad sign in my opinion!

[MrSpasybo]

Bruh, we just had a bull season!
Solana scored an ATH, BNB did one, even if we  exclude ETH, BTC, and many other top coins there are plenty in the 1-100 ranking that have outperformed 2021. We had a bull run, even by the math for bull/bear we clearly had one for the market, we're now in a bearish trend due to the decrease, the only top coins that still cling to it are BTC ETH and TON.

Let's be realistic here, most coins had an opportunity to piggyback on BTC and do a 200% at least, some failed miserably as the old guard (EOS for example) failed in 2021,some of those top 50 will not see the next halving in top 100!

Weakness in a period when everything is green is a bad sign in my opinion!

Well, I think the bullrun hasn't officially started yet even though BTC has a new ATH. ETH has not created a new ATH yet and we have not entered the hottest stage of the uptrend. I still continue to have expectations for the recovery and growth of many tokens in the next few months, when the re-accumulation will end and the official growth will begin.

I divide the tokens in the market into many groups. Some tokens have created new ATHs such as INJ, FET, OKX; some tokens have recovered well such as SOL and AVAX, some tokens continue to accumulate after leaving the bottom such as DOT or BAT. The fact that the token price has not increased means that their growth potential is still very large, but as you said, they also have the risk to be forgotten and will fail to achieve the goal of creating a new ATH in this cycle.

[Stompix]

Well, I think the bullrun hasn't officially started yet even though BTC has a new ATH.

A bull run starts when an asset or the entire market appreciates by 20%.
That's the official thing, if we're going to stick to indicators and TA let's not ignore true fundamentals in a market.
You don't like the outcome, it feels undervalued you think there is more to come, but that doesn't change the fact that we have been in a complete and truly bullish market.

The fact that the token price has not increased means that their growth potential is still very large, but as you said, they also have the risk to be forgotten and will fail to achieve the goal of creating a new ATH in this cycle.

Basically, any dead coin qualifies for that and you know pretty well how slim the chances of actual recovery are.
I will not deny that they will not even with a tiny recovery bring back some profits, but the hope of seeing them pass their last ATH go down by the day. look at the chart it has already erased every single gain in this year and it's back to December values.

[MrSpasybo]

A bull run starts when an asset or the entire market appreciates by 20%.
That's the official thing, if we're going to stick to indicators and TA let's not ignore true fundamentals in a market.
You don't like the outcome, it feels undervalued you think there is more to come, but that doesn't change the fact that we have been in a complete and truly bullish market.

Basically, any dead coin qualifies for that and you know pretty well how slim the chances of actual recovery are.
I will not deny that they will not even with a tiny recovery bring back some profits, but the hope of seeing them pass their last ATH go down by the day. look at the chart it has already erased every single gain in this year and it's back to December values.

I don't think we've had a bullrun in the crypto market yet. The +20% criterion may only be appropriate for the stock market with small fluctuations. For me, the market is only recovering and accumulating before continuing to grow and enter a bullrun with strong price increases for most tokens, similar to what happened in late 2020 and early 2021.

We have the right to expect but do not forget to place stop-loss orders to protect capital and profits. The current boredom of the market can make someone disappointed while another is happy because they have more opportunities to buy more tokens at lower prices. I am not too optimistic about the growth potential of ALTS, I just think that they can often reach Fibo 0.618 or Kumo cloud in a bullrun. The same can be applied to BAT in case BAT cannot create a new ATH, but I still hope BAT will be noticed and make new ATH in 2025 thanks to the success and popularity of Brave.

[KryptoBull]

I don't think we've had a bullrun in the crypto market yet. The +20% criterion may only be appropriate for the stock market with small fluctuations. For me, the market is only recovering and accumulating before continuing to grow and enter a bullrun with strong price increases for most tokens, similar to what happened in late 2020 and early 2021.

We have the right to expect but do not forget to place stop-loss orders to protect capital and profits. The current boredom of the market can make someone disappointed while another is happy because they have more opportunities to buy more tokens at lower prices. I am not too optimistic about the growth potential of ALTS, I just think that they can often reach Fibo 0.618 or Kumo cloud in a bullrun. The same can be applied to BAT in case BAT cannot create a new ATH, but I still hope BAT will be noticed and make new ATH in 2025 thanks to the success and popularity of Brave.

The market is still waiting for a bull run, especially altcoin holders. BTC holders have already been able to rest assured with large profits when they were able to buy BTC at the bottom of around 20K USD, while most altcoin holders are still waiting for their altcoin prices to return to the old peaks of 2021.

BAT holders may also have such expectations, but everything still depends on the market situation. In a positive scenario, we could see Brave regain market share in browsers and advertising, and BAT price will have a new ATH. However, we should also prepare for worse scenarios: BAT price may only recover to the equilibrium price range in the uptrend and investors will need to sell BAT as soon as BTC price shows signs of a reversal in 2025.

[Stompix]

I don't think we've had a bullrun in the crypto market yet. The +20% criterion may only be appropriate for the stock market with small fluctuations. For me, the market is only recovering and accumulating before continuing to grow and enter a bullrun with strong price increases for most tokens, similar to what happened in late 2020 and early 2021.

Exactly what I said above, it really doesn't matter what I or you think or how we appreciate things or how we evaluate our portfolio, if we try to apply traditional indexes or analysis to crypto then we must also apply the basic definitions, like it or not.
So, we are in a bull market, we drop to 54k and stay there for more than 14 days we are in a bear market.

We might not think it's one but every single indicator will say it is, just as you might not call a 40C weather a heatwave because you're used to one and you feel fine, it still is!!

The same can be applied to BAT in case BAT cannot create a new ATH, but I still hope BAT will be noticed and make new ATH in 2025 thanks to the success and popularity of Brave.

Now let's assume BAT does and ATH in 2025, this would be indeed something great for holders, it would mean close to 10x from now, but if BTC is at that point at 100k or 150k would it still be considered a success?
I feel like we can't switch from long-term holding over 4-5 years and then congratulate ourselves on a sudden pump, we either focus on long-term stable investments (no no 90% of value drop) or on pump and dumps.

[MrSpasybo]

The market is still waiting for a bull run, especially altcoin holders. BTC holders have already been able to rest assured with large profits when they were able to buy BTC at the bottom of around 20K USD, while most altcoin holders are still waiting for their altcoin prices to return to the old peaks of 2021.

BAT holders may also have such expectations, but everything still depends on the market situation. In a positive scenario, we could see Brave regain market share in browsers and advertising, and BAT price will have a new ATH. However, we should also prepare for worse scenarios: BAT price may only recover to the equilibrium price range in the uptrend and investors will need to sell BAT as soon as BTC price shows signs of a reversal in 2025.

Yeah, we are in a rather sensitive phase of the market and investors cannot confidently identify the trend of BTC and ALTS. BAT token is also just an ALTS and its price fluctuates according to the general trend, especially when the Web3 trend has not been able to return and users are still not paying attention to tokenizing their web browsing activities.

Investing in BAT may require patience from investors as BAT is not part of any current trend: DeFi, RWA, AI, GameFi. I just hope that BAT will not be forgotten in this bullrun.

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Now let's assume BAT does and ATH in 2025, this would be indeed something great for holders, it would mean close to 10x from now, but if BTC is at that point at 100k or 150k would it still be considered a success?
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I see that this BAT coin has not increased at all and even tends to stagnate at a price of 0.23 dollars, even though Bitcoin will soon reach a price of 100,000 dollars.
Maybe the time will come when BAT will also increase in price, but I don't think BAT will be able to reach an all-time high in 2025. The trading volume for the BAT token also tends to be quiet, that's why I checked it on Coingecko https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/basic-attention-token

[MrSpasybo]

I see that this BAT coin has not increased at all and even tends to stagnate at a price of 0.23 dollars, even though Bitcoin will soon reach a price of 100,000 dollars.
Maybe the time will come when BAT will also increase in price, but I don't think BAT will be able to reach an all-time high in 2025. The trading volume for the BAT token also tends to be quiet, that's why I checked it on Coingecko https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/basic-attention-token

BAT has indeed experienced a lack of inflows for some time. When BTC price adjusted slightly, BAT price returned to its bottom of $0.15, disappointing investors. Perhaps whales have not chosen BAT for their portfolios, or they are quietly accumulating BAT to pump during the bullrun. We may never know the truth until the end of the 2025 bullrun.

BAT was once in my portfolio, but I had to switch to BTC to protect my capital and secure my profits. However, I am still using Brave regularly and hope that this project will continue to be developed and BAT price will soon recover to attract more users to the Web3-browser.

[Stompix]

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Now let's assume BAT does and ATH in 2025, this would be indeed something great for holders, it would mean close to 10x from now, but if BTC is at that point at 100k or 150k would it still be considered a success?
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I see that this BAT coin has not increased at all and even tends to stagnate at a price of 0.23 dollars, even though Bitcoin will soon reach a price of 100,000 dollars.

Well, in its defense, it has jumped a bit in the last few days, if you cherry-pick dates and go straight before the election date you can squeeze a 60% again, but again picking the lowest of the low, if you go you despite this jump it's still just barely 20% up,  if you look at the ATH, it's really bad, down 85%.

Sorry for the ones holding it but if we talk unrealized gains if you would have hold BTC instead of it in the last year you could now buy twice the stash in BAT if you truly believe in the future.

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I see that this BAT coin has not increased at all and even tends to stagnate at a price of 0.23 dollars, even though Bitcoin will soon reach a price of 100,000 dollars.
Maybe the time will come when BAT will also increase in price, but I don't think BAT will be able to reach an all-time high in 2025. The trading volume for the BAT token also tends to be quiet, that's why I checked it on Coingecko https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/basic-attention-token

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However, I am still using Brave regularly and hope that this project will continue to be developed and BAT price will soon recover to attract more users to the Web3-browser.

I thought Brave Browser was less popular, but it turns out there are still many who are interested. Honestly, I have never used Brave Browser, is Brave Browser faster than Chrome in terms of accessing the internet?

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Now let's assume BAT does and ATH in 2025, this would be indeed something great for holders, it would mean close to 10x from now, but if BTC is at that point at 100k or 150k would it still be considered a success?
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I see that this BAT coin has not increased at all and even tends to stagnate at a price of 0.23 dollars, even though Bitcoin will soon reach a price of 100,000 dollars.

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Sorry for the ones holding it but if we talk unrealized gains if you would have hold BTC instead of it in the last year you could now buy twice the stash in BAT if you truly believe in the future.

I also think a thousand times if I buy BAT coins because I don't trust BAT tokens. It's definitely better for us to just buy Bitcoin because experienced investors will definitely choose Bitcoin.
BAT last year was still the same price as it is now, namely Dump. Bitcoin if bought in 2023 has now increased by 100%. This basic calculation proves that I personally choose Bitcoin only and stay away from BAT coins.