The UFC Discussion and Prediction Topic

[pawel7777]

paddy was compared to conor, we know he isn't though. (...)

I think the only person comparing him to McGregor was Paddy himself. He has lost a lot of hype due to his attacks on Helwani, which made him look like Dana's lap dog, and due to unconvincing performances in which he nearly got KOed or won by a controversial decision (i.e. against Jared Gordon).
I don't think he manages his public image to well. He's not very consistent and seems like he can't decide whether he wants to play the role of a good or a bad guy.
But to be fair to him, he did redeem himself a bit in the fight with Ferguson, and he still has pretty impressive recognition for a guy that's not even ranked.

[pawel7777]

Posting results from the last night's UFC Fight Night main card. There are no high-profile names here, but judging by the number of early stoppages (4 KOs and 1 submission) it could be interesting.
I haven't yet seen any of these fights though. Maybe I'll catch up on it later.

[electronicash]

paddy was compared to conor, we know he isn't though. (...)

I think the only person comparing him to McGregor was Paddy himself. He has lost a lot of hype due to his attacks on Helwani, which made him look like Dana's lap dog, and due to unconvincing performances in which he nearly got KOed or won by a controversial decision (i.e. against Jared Gordon).
I don't think he manages his public image to well. He's not very consistent and seems like he can't decide whether he wants to play the role of a good or a bad guy.
But to be fair to him, he did redeem himself a bit in the fight with Ferguson, and he still has pretty impressive recognition for a guy that's not even ranked.

you think its true that Dana will release him from UFC? i read this is paddy's last fight in his UFC contract and if this contract isn't renewed i guess its the end of his UFC career. the predictions off top pickers was that Bob Green may actually win against paddy. he won't be retiring i suppose since he is qualified enough to join some other MMA promotions but there is nothing like UFC.

UFC 304 has some good match ups especially the co-main event and several familiar names like Giga. he is underdog against Allen which is kinda odd.

[pawel7777]

you think its true that Dana will release him from UFC? i read this is paddy's last fight in his UFC contract and if this contract isn't renewed i guess its the end of his UFC career. the predictions off top pickers was that Bob Green may actually win against paddy. he won't be retiring i suppose since he is qualified enough to join some other MMA promotions but there is nothing like UFC.

UFC 304 has some good match ups especially the co-main event and several familiar names like Giga. he is underdog against Allen which is kinda odd.

It'd be very unlikely for the UFC to tell Paddy off and not offer him any contract. They may not offer him as much as he wants but I'd imagine he will get an offer.
Like him or not, he's undefeated 5-0 in the UFC, so him leaving for another organisation would cause a dent to the UFC's reputation as the place that every fighter wants to be in.

[electronicash]

you think its true that Dana will release him from UFC? i read this is paddy's last fight in his UFC contract and if this contract isn't renewed i guess its the end of his UFC career. the predictions off top pickers was that Bob Green may actually win against paddy. he won't be retiring i suppose since he is qualified enough to join some other MMA promotions but there is nothing like UFC.

UFC 304 has some good match ups especially the co-main event and several familiar names like Giga. he is underdog against Allen which is kinda odd.

It'd be very unlikely for the UFC to tell Paddy off and not offer him any contract. They may not offer him as much as he wants but I'd imagine he will get an offer.
Like him or not, he's undefeated 5-0 in the UFC, so him leaving for another organisation would cause a dent to the UFC's reputation as the place that every fighter wants to be in.

though Paddy is annoying for some people in ufc, he still makes a good marketing for the company especially in UK. 5-0 is considerably a good record and he is young. there isn't much that can hype a ufc event in that country who can talk shit on camera. Edwards and Tom, is just not that much of a talker that Dana would like.

i wouldn't be adding paddy in a parlay even though green is kind of old though but i would try a few $ for Tom, Edwards and Allen.  tom by KO you think?

[pawel7777]

(...)  tom by KO you think?

Statistically, that's the most likely scenario, but Blaydes probably will be focused on surviving round 1, which would be a small victory and could put more mental pressure on Tom. From the vids on youtube it looks like both are preparing for some ground action. So I wouldn't be surprised if this fight goes differently than Tom's previous fights, but I don't think it'd go to the distance.

Here are the odds for all of the main card fights:

Leon Edwards x1.44 vs. Belal Muhammad x2.80
Tom Aspinall x1.27 vs. Curtis Blaydes x3.80
Bobby Green x1.86 vs. Paddy Pimblett x1.94
Christian Leroy Duncan x1.70 vs. Gregory Rodrigues x2.15
Arnold Allen x1.38 vs. Giga Chikadze x3.05

Not the main card, but Mokaev has decent odds at 1.68 against Kape (x2.18).

[notblox1]

Finally we have one interesting fight card in UFC after series of boring events.
I like main event Leon Edwards vs Belal Muhammad but I think Edwards have big advantage of home crown and reach advantage.
Co-main is also interesting heavyweight fight, and even in prelims there are fights I am interested to watch.

[electronicash]

(...)  tom by KO you think?

Statistically, that's the most likely scenario, but Blaydes probably will be focused on surviving round 1, which would be a small victory and could put more mental pressure on Tom. From the vids on youtube it looks like both are preparing for some ground action. So I wouldn't be surprised if this fight goes differently than Tom's previous fights, but I don't think it'd go to the distance.

Here are the odds for all of the main card fights:

Leon Edwards x1.44 vs. Belal Muhammad x2.80
Tom Aspinall x1.27 vs. Curtis Blaydes x3.80
Bobby Green x1.86 vs. Paddy Pimblett x1.94
Christian Leroy Duncan x1.70 vs. Gregory Rodrigues x2.15
Arnold Allen x1.38 vs. Giga Chikadze x3.05

Not the main card, but Mokaev has decent odds at 1.68 against Kape (x2.18).

Tom winning by KO does mean Jones will finally fight him or Jones will still be inactive after fighting Stipe?  these two are fighting over an interim belt but hope this time it won't be meaningless.
but it would mess up the situation also if Tom loses by KO against Blaydes.

they would really need a bigger star like Poatan to come in HW to make things happen. they would need another bogeyman for Jones when if Tom loses, the only down side is Jones getting inactive again.

[pawel7777]

Tom winning by KO does mean Jones will finally fight him or Jones will still be inactive after fighting Stipe?  these two are fighting over an interim belt but hope this time it won't be meaningless.
but it would mess up the situation also if Tom loses by KO against Blaydes.

they would really need a bigger star like Poatan to come in HW to make things happen. they would need another bogeyman for Jones when if Tom loses, the only down side is Jones getting inactive again.

The style doesn't matter, whoever wins will either face the winner of Jones/Stipe or Jones (or Stipe) will be stripped of the HW belt. The current situation is already ridiculous as it is, and having two permanent HW belts existing in parallel would be an absolute joke.

Sure, Tom is taking a risk, but that's much better than putting his career on hold and waiting for what Jones will decide to do. Tom is confident in his skills and is not shying away from fighting. That's the attitude you want to see in a real champion.

[notblox1]

The style doesn't matter, whoever wins will either face the winner of Jones/Stipe or Jones (or Stipe) will be stripped of the HW belt. The current situation is already ridiculous as it is, and having two permanent HW belts existing in parallel would be an absolute joke.

If that fight ever happens 
Both Jones and Stipe are not getting any younger, Jones is now 37 year old and he only had one fight since 2020, that is with Gane last year.
Stipe is older than Jones, he is now 41 year old, his last fight in UFC was back in 2021, and it not likely he will fight this year.
I would love to see this fight, but Francis NGannou comeback in MMA is also going to be interesting.

[electronicash]

The style doesn't matter, whoever wins will either face the winner of Jones/Stipe or Jones (or Stipe) will be stripped of the HW belt. The current situation is already ridiculous as it is, and having two permanent HW belts existing in parallel would be an absolute joke.

If that fight ever happens 
Both Jones and Stipe are not getting any younger, Jones is now 37 year old and he only had one fight since 2020, that is with Gane last year.
Stipe is older than Jones, he is now 41 year old, his last fight in UFC was back in 2021, and it not likely he will fight this year.
I would love to see this fight, but Francis NGannou comeback in MMA is also going to be interesting.

Ngannou is fighting Renan Ferreira in PFL this Oct. and i think he is also coming back to boxing after this PFL fight.

say Tom losses against Blaydes which means Blaydes will be the champ.  i don't mind him being the interim champ but it may be hard for Tom to get a title shot to fight Blaydes for the 3rd time. and its Blaydes will be the one fighting Jones. or maybe Blaydes defending the title several times before fighting Jones.

[pawel7777]

Both Jones and Stipe are not getting any younger, Jones is now 37 year old and he only had one fight since 2020, that is with Gane last year.
Stipe is older than Jones, he is now 41 year old, his last fight in UFC was back in 2021, and it not likely he will fight this year.

Nah, I think it'll happen, unless one of them gets any major injury, then it could be called off.
The real question is, will this be Jon's last fight, or will he want to keep going.
If he cares about his legacy and wants to retire in full glory, he'd have to face Tom (if Tom wins against Curtis). Otherwise, in the eyes of the fans, it will look like he's running away from the real challenge.
But if Blaydes was to win, then yeah, I don't think Jones would be interested in such fight. He'd probably prefer to get stripped of the belt and fight Pereira instead.

[notblox1]

Nah, I think it'll happen, unless one of them gets any major injury, then it could be called off.
The real question is, will this be Jon's last fight, or will he want to keep going.

I think Jones have signed a contract to have more fights in UFC, but I would like him to finish with Dana White and became a free agent.
This way we could see Jones in mega fight against Francis Ngannou, everyone wants to see this, and it would sell a lot of tickets as main event.
Heavyweight category in UFC is not having much action or any new interesting fighters.

[pawel7777]

To no surprise, Dana White, when asked by a reporter about it during the last press conference, has confirmed that the winner of Aspinall/Blaydes will be fighting the winner of Jones/Miocic.
That's of course provided that the winner of Jones/Miocic won't announce his retirement.

If Aspinall defeats Blaydes, it would be a real shame if he's not matched up with Jones. There simply aren't any other worthy and exciting opponents in the heavyweight right now.

[notblox1]

If Aspinall defeats Blaydes, it would be a real shame if he's not matched up with Jones. There simply aren't any other worthy and exciting opponents in the heavyweight right now.

I don't think any of this guys can really challenge Jones and be a real threat to him.
Whoever wins in that fight wont be that much motivating for him, and I am still looking at Stipe Miocic as better fighter from other heayvweights, despite being 6th place in UFC rankings.