BG shilling and forum actions!

[babo]

That's your position, but I don't agree that it's a normal way for someone to advertise. At BTT, we have a clear rule that advertising in posts is not allowed, and if someone mentions one and the same company in 15 out of 20 posts, then it is quite clear what they are doing. Those who advertise in this way are trying to be smart, but in fact they are only creating a bad image of themselves - I put such companies on the black list and would never use any services from them.

surely when it is continuously shilled in that way it can create annoyance
I understand what you say
but you can't prohibit doing it, it would be a very dangerous precedent

what would then prohibit talking about dogecoin, which as far as I'm concerned is worth as much as shilling these things

and yet I have to tolerate those who love dogecoin because the world is free and that's right: we can't prohibit by law not to talk about dogecoin

[ABCbits]

Bitget shilling is growing day by day, today I saw many of them invaded reddit boards too. Thanks OP for mentioning my thread of BTT.

Anyway mods took swift actions that might hold them for now but I am sure they will come back with more new accounts to do the SEO spam no matter what so I assume the best solution to stop them is to put word filter as suggested by @hugeblack on the word Bitget, BGB or anything related to Bitget which for a week or two and see if it stops them invading again.

Well, there are many ways to look at it. I think that the sent warnings and shillers badges are "enough" for those users to see what they are doing, and if they look for a little information on the forum about what has happened to the accounts, they will read this thread and as I said, if they continue doing the same the penalties will also increase.

But if their main goal is only to spam this "bitget", the warning only means they know they can continue to spam for some time.

I don't think filtering out the word "Bitget" is the solution right now since there are mainly only two users, but it's something I'll leave a note about.

How about filter or detect word "bitget" for new account? Is it tehnically possible?

[babo]

I don't think filtering out the word "Bitget" is the solution right now since there are mainly only two users, but it's something I'll leave a note about.

How about filter or detect word "bitget" for new account? Is it tehnically possible?

GREAT IDEA
this is a very good idea, making sure that there are filters for brand new accounts
it makes a lot of sense, it's smart, it doesn't limit the freedom of users and above all you go and punish those who register only to spam
not punish sorry, but filtering so registering new accounts is practically useless

[Freemind]

How about filter or detect word "bitget" for new account? Is it tehnically possible?

Although I'm not entirely sure, I suppose it would be possible. But that could cause other problems, like when a new user wants to say something about bitget or ask a question, without shilling, since we would be blaming users who have not done anything against the forum rules. In situations like this I think the only thing we can do is remain alert and notify the moderators so they can take the necessary action. As long as users identified as shillers have a demonstrable post history. That is why I don't think filtering a word for certain account ranks is the solution.

[Lucius]

It's just strange to me that someone gives +karma for such posts, even if it's only 6 karma or something similar - and I've noticed that even when I give them negative karma, they get + from someone again the very next day. If it were determined that all these accounts receive +karma from the same user, then we would have clear evidence of karma abuse.

You may be right, but I think it is early to make such statements. Anyway, I don't think those users will have positive karma for a long time. If you look at their profiles you will see that they do not have the same positive karma as they did 24 hours ago. In case the karma of both users increases, the administrator will be able to check who is sending that karma. I think that since the amount are so small, it will not be the same user who sends it, but at the moment I don't think it is worrying.

I think you're right, I follow a few old BG shills who are inactive for 2+ weeks after being detected - and the two in question also became inactive after they realized they were being targeted for what they were doing. Their tactic is obviously to wait a bit until the situation calms down, and then try again - although it would be best if they understood the message and stopped doing what they were doing.

How about filter or detect word "bitget" for new account? Is it tehnically possible?

It is technically possible because I came across exactly one such word that is blacklisted on the forum -> #moderation link in post?

[robelneo]

It's good that Altcoinstalk is very specific in this case it will set a warning to those who want to do this here, BG is not a small exchange founded in 2018 but I wonder why they opted for this kind of marketing when they can launch a signature campaign or buy ads here and it will have a good results than doing this type of marketing.
When it comes to platforms like exchange they should do their marketing in proper and effective ways.

[NotATether]

How about filter or detect word "bitget" for new account? Is it tehnically possible?

GREAT IDEA
this is a very good idea, making sure that there are filters for brand new accounts
it makes a lot of sense, it's smart, it doesn't limit the freedom of users and above all you go and punish those who register only to spam
not punish sorry, but filtering so registering new accounts is practically useless

That would just make people create random-sounding usernames in order to promote Bitget.

It's more of a band-aid solution, that doesn't really address the problem at the source. Like I said, it would be better to just move said posts to incentivized posting/shill section or even just delete them entirely.

[ABCbits]

How about filter or detect word "bitget" for new account? Is it tehnically possible?

Although I'm not entirely sure, I suppose it would be possible. But that could cause other problems, like when a new user wants to say something about bitget or ask a question, without shilling, since we would be blaming users who have not done anything against the forum rules. In situations like this I think the only thing we can do is remain alert and notify the moderators so they can take the necessary action. As long as users identified as shillers have a demonstrable post history. That is why I don't think filtering a word for certain account ranks is the solution.

Good point. With massive spam/shilling, it wouldn't be unusual someone got curious and ask legit question about it.

How about filter or detect word "bitget" for new account? Is it tehnically possible?

It is technically possible because I came across exactly one such word that is blacklisted on the forum -> #moderation link in post?

I see. I also encountered it once, but at that time i thought it's because website link i choose to include in my post (rather than specific word).

[babo]

That would just make people create random-sounding usernames in order to promote Bitget.

It's more of a band-aid solution, that doesn't really address the problem at the source. Like I said, it would be better to just move said posts to incentivized posting/shill section or even just delete them entirely.

no matter how you do it, there is always a problem unfortunately, we need to find a solution that allows us to save both goats and cabbages
because strict, hard and vulgar censorship never works, I tell you from experience
we just need to discourage wild shilling, that's

[Lucius]

It's good that Altcoinstalk is very specific in this case it will set a warning to those who want to do this here, BG is not a small exchange founded in 2018 but I wonder why they opted for this kind of marketing when they can launch a signature campaign or buy ads here and it will have a good results than doing this type of marketing.
When it comes to platforms like exchange they should do their marketing in proper and effective ways.

If you ask me what the reason is, then it seems to me that the only logical thing is that the company either does not know how to promote itself (which is unlikely), or they think that they can save a lot of money by paying obscenely low pay rates for those who shill them in every possible way on forums and social networks.

Maybe such promotion really works, but I have always found such things repulsive and in the zone of suspicious business.

[Freemind]

It's good that Altcoinstalk is very specific in this case it will set a warning to those who want to do this here, BG is not a small exchange founded in 2018 but I wonder why they opted for this kind of marketing when they can launch a signature campaign or buy ads here and it will have a good results than doing this type of marketing.
When it comes to platforms like exchange they should do their marketing in proper and effective ways.

That's the problem. That these practices were carried out by a small exchange, with very few resources, I could understand, although personally I would act in the same way that I have said in my previous posts. But Bitget has the resources and money to run a marketing campaign without any problems. I don't know how much money they make daily thanks to fees (and the exchange's official token) but they have a fairly high volume.



Bitget apparently has no problem paying for campaigns, ads, signatures, or anything else to promote the exchange. That's why I don't understand why they act that way...

It's more of a band-aid solution, that doesn't really address the problem at the source. Like I said, it would be better to just move said posts to incentivized posting/shill section or even just delete them entirely.

I think the best thing is to delete the posts directly, move them to the board incentivised posting/shill doesn't solve anything. That might make the shillers think there is no problem with what they are doing.

[babo]

It's good that Altcoinstalk is very specific in this case it will set a warning to those who want to do this here, BG is not a small exchange founded in 2018 but I wonder why they opted for this kind of marketing when they can launch a signature campaign or buy ads here and it will have a good results than doing this type of marketing.
When it comes to platforms like exchange they should do their marketing in proper and effective ways.

That's the problem. That these practices were carried out by a small exchange, with very few resources, I could understand, although personally I would act in the same way that I have said in my previous posts. But Bitget has the resources and money to run a marketing campaign without any problems. I don't know how much money they make daily thanks to fees (and the exchange's official token) but they have a fairly high volume.



Bitget apparently has no problem paying for campaigns, ads, signatures, or anything else to promote the exchange. That's why I don't understand why they act that way...

It's more of a band-aid solution, that doesn't really address the problem at the source. Like I said, it would be better to just move said posts to incentivized posting/shill section or even just delete them entirely.

I think the best thing is to delete the posts directly, move them to the board incentivised posting/shill doesn't solve anything. That might make the shillers think there is no problem with what they are doing.

I think they think that this system, with the same amount of money, is much more efficient than the classic advertising system
I honestly don't know, I'm not an expert in the sector, but I think they have made this system their distinctive feature

Only they do it this way in practice

[Lucius]

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Bitget apparently has no problem paying for campaigns, ads, signatures, or anything else to promote the exchange. That's why I don't understand why they act that way...

I've already written two possible reasons, but I think it's just about the clearly incompetent leadership of that company - whose CEO their shills praise even on this forum (of course this is another one of their shills). In the specific case, the woman at the head of the company did not bring anything positive.

[Freemind]

I think they think that this system, with the same amount of money, is much more efficient than the classic advertising system
I honestly don't know, I'm not an expert in the sector, but I think they have made this system their distinctive feature

Only they do it this way in practice

I'm also not an expert in marketing or brand advertising, but I believe there are better (and more effective) ways to do things. In reality, this way of promoting an exchange is not only not beneficial, but it can give the brand a completely opposite result than expected. I don't think that with the benefits they get from the fees they would have a problem spending a few thousand dollars on a signature campaign or paying for some banners, for example. Doing things the way they are done now is a sign of lack of professionalism when working and presenting a product to potential clients.

I've already written two possible reasons, but I think it's just about the clearly incompetent leadership of that company - whose CEO their shills praise even on this forum (of course this is another one of their shills). In the specific case, the woman at the head of the company did not bring anything positive.

I don't know to what extent it could be incompetence considering the success of the exchange and the volume it has, unless the "advertising and promotion" business is outsourced to another company.

[Lucius]

BG shills in action again - as far as I can see, user @BitHunter (post history) is already marked as "watched", but we have a new one @Jomisa (post history).

+1 -> Smcchamp

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