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What if the big bull run doesn't happen?

I will be very disappointed and sell all my BTC.
I will be very disappointed, but I will sell no more than 50% of my BTC.
I will not sell anything more than what I need.
I will not sell anything and I will buy until the new bull run (2028).

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Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
« Reply #75 on: November 06, 2024, 05:03:13 PM »

 I'd be disappointed. What is seemingly a good time to invest because the year is a halving year turned out to be a no profit year. Just thinking about how much time wasted when I could have just invest in gold because its price is more profitable.

When somebody said this election is all about crypto, I thought price could go up because of it. So we still have about few months to find out.

You shouldn't be discouraged on your crypto investments because market has not started moving in your favor, just remember that patience remains the key for all investments. I think with good knowledge about how the market works, you should understand that Bitcoin has a four year circle and within this four years, the market will put up a bullish momentum that will yield a good returns.

In addition, the reason the US election is tie to the crypto market this year is because Donald Trump, one of the presidential candidates has made several promises about bitcoin developments if elected the president. On this note, many crypto enthusiast has been expecting this election to come his to favor, and i know that many people are waiting  upon this hope.

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Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
« Reply #76 on: November 06, 2024, 05:20:04 PM »
You are right, it would be really strange if BTC would not even touch $100k this year, if we saw how much it made in its last bull runs then we will become 100% confident that it will cross $100k easily. Like in 2017 to 2019 it made an ATH of 20k (If I am not wrong, as I read it on several blogs) and back in 2021 it reach 67k and now it have to make double of what it made in last bull run.

At the time of the halving in 2016, the price of BTC was around $400, and by the end of that year we had an increase to $1000, and then by the end of 2018, almost $20 000. However, at that time BTC was still under the radar of many investors today - Saylor thought it was on the way to disappear, the guys from Black Rock considered it a money laundering machine (or something similar), and those who supported it in any way did not were popular in the media and in general in their environment if they talked about it.

Most people now a days don't care about the nature of the ETF either its custodial or non custodial they will prefer custodial as they don't want to take responsibility of their assets instead they want insurance on their funds that they invested so when anything happens to funds just like other exchanges (MT Gox, FTX etc.) they would get recoveries options.

Their money, their risk - although I don't consider myself to have BTC if someone else keeps it for me, or if I share private keys with someone - so it all comes down to one company trusting another and hoping that everything will be as agreed. I hope that those who keep BTC for ETFs will not become victims of hacking, because then there will be chaos for which Mt.Gox and FTX together will be just naughty child's play.

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Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
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Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
« Reply #77 on: November 07, 2024, 10:43:00 AM »
You are right, it would be really strange if BTC would not even touch $100k this year, if we saw how much it made in its last bull runs then we will become 100% confident that it will cross $100k easily. Like in 2017 to 2019 it made an ATH of 20k (If I am not wrong, as I read it on several blogs) and back in 2021 it reach 67k and now it have to make double of what it made in last bull run.

At the time of the halving in 2016, the price of BTC was around $400, and by the end of that year we had an increase to $1000, and then by the end of 2018, almost $20 000. However, at that time BTC was still under the radar of many investors today - Saylor thought it was on the way to disappear, the guys from Black Rock considered it a money laundering machine (or something similar), and those who supported it in any way did not were popular in the media and in general in their environment if they talked about it.

Well, the big bad bull run is here, and it's taking everyone with it whether they like it or not. :)

Did anyone really think that a bull run would not happen soon? Seriously?

2017/2018 was an anomaly, however, considering that Bitcoin went all the way to $17000 or something, almost to $18000, and then lost most of that value in a few weeks. But it has later been proven that it is not the norm.
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Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
« Reply #78 on: November 07, 2024, 05:04:20 PM »
At the time of the halving in 2016, the price of BTC was around $400, and by the end of that year we had an increase to $1000, and then by the end of 2018, almost $20 000. However, at that time BTC was still under the radar of many investors today - Saylor thought it was on the way to disappear, the guys from Black Rock considered it a money laundering machine (or something similar), and those who supported it in any way did not were popular in the media and in general in their environment if they talked about it.
I did not see the 2018 bull run,, so I don't know much about it, I just can't get rid of this feeling now that in 2016 1 BTC was worth only $400. I mean, that's not too old, I was in my full consciousness then, if I had this much knowledge that time then I must have taken a loan even to take entries. I don't know the future now but I am sure we will see the same results (maybe a little less) in upcoming bull runs but don't know what's stopping me to take loan now to invest. These people were not supporting BTC and it grew this much and now these influential parties are invested and interested in BTC, it means BTC will definitely grow more.
Their money, their risk - although I don't consider myself to have BTC if someone else keeps it for me, or if I share private keys with someone - so it all comes down to one company trusting another and hoping that everything will be as agreed. I hope that those who keep BTC for ETFs will not become victims of hacking, because then there will be chaos for which Mt.Gox and FTX together will be just naughty child's play.
If they become victims of hacking, I think ETF platforms have to provide their users with money like FTX has assured they will repay the victims. But yeah these ETF platforms have inflow in billions and the amount is too big that if they got hacked then a big chaos will come.  +1
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Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
« Reply #79 on: November 07, 2024, 05:54:33 PM »
~snip~
2017/2018 was an anomaly, however, considering that Bitcoin went all the way to $17000 or something, almost to $18000, and then lost most of that value
in a few weeks. But it has later been proven that it is not the norm.

I wouldn't call it an anomaly, unless you go back even further and also call an anomaly what happened after the first halving when the price crossed $1000 for the first time. What happened in 2017 was just a continuation of the great expectations that were further fueled by the huge influx of money that went in the direction of cryptocurrencies and the great media hype that only added fuel to the fire.



I did not see the 2018 bull run,, so I don't know much about it, I just can't get rid of this feeling now that in 2016 1 BTC was worth only $400. I mean, that's not too old, I was in my full consciousness then, if I had this much knowledge that time then I must have taken a loan even to take entries. I don't know the future now but I am sure we will see the same results (maybe a little less) in upcoming bull runs but don't know what's stopping me to take loan now to invest. These people were not supporting BTC and it grew this much and now these influential parties are invested and interested in BTC, it means BTC will definitely grow more.
~snip~


If you go back just 1 year, you would see that during the whole year the price was just above $200, and I remember very well that back then I could collect 1BTC in a couple of months only through faucets and that in a very easy way without any short links and similar nonsense. Back then, many people said that BTC would never reach $1000 again and that it was actually game over - but today we see how wrong they were.

Therefore, although I am a realist and I don't really like some random speculation about the price, I will just say that in 10 years I will not be at all surprised if 1 BTC is worth ten times more than today. Of course, $700 000 is a very large amount for 1 BTC, but it should also be taken into account that the purchasing power of that money will be considerably less than today.
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Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
« Reply #80 on: November 09, 2024, 03:53:26 PM »

 I'd be disappointed. What is seemingly a good time to invest because the year is a halving year turned out to be a no profit year. Just thinking about how much time wasted when I could have just invest in gold because its price is more profitable.

When somebody said this election is all about crypto, I thought price could go up because of it. So we still have about few months to find out.

You shouldn't be discouraged on your crypto investments because market has not started moving in your favor, just remember that patience remains the key for all investments. I think with good knowledge about how the market works, you should understand that Bitcoin has a four year circle and within this four years, the market will put up a bullish momentum that will yield a good returns.

In addition, the reason the US election is tie to the crypto market this year is because Donald Trump, one of the presidential candidates has made several promises about bitcoin developments if elected the president. On this note, many crypto enthusiast has been expecting this election to come his to favor, and i know that many people are waiting  upon this hope.

It hasn't reached the 100k yet but it's worth it now. Crypto market place will not disappoint us in the long run I was just thinking if the big bull run won't come as described by OP.

It could come to a point an investor will fold their card when disappointed for a extended period of time and not meeting the expectation. The short term investor would actually give up when nothing is happening, it will just be what kind of investor we are.



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Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
« Reply #81 on: November 09, 2024, 09:59:47 PM »

 I'd be disappointed. What is seemingly a good time to invest because the year is a halving year turned out to be a no profit year. Just thinking about how much time wasted when I could have just invest in gold because its price is more profitable.

When somebody said this election is all about crypto, I thought price could go up because of it. So we still have about few months to find out.

You shouldn't be discouraged on your crypto investments because market has not started moving in your favor, just remember that patience remains the key for all investments. I think with good knowledge about how the market works, you should understand that Bitcoin has a four year circle and within this four years, the market will put up a bullish momentum that will yield a good returns.

In addition, the reason the US election is tie to the crypto market this year is because Donald Trump, one of the presidential candidates has made several promises about bitcoin developments if elected the president. On this note, many crypto enthusiast has been expecting this election to come his to favor, and i know that many people are waiting  upon this hope.

It hasn't reached the 100k yet but it's worth it now. Crypto market place will not disappoint us in the long run I was just thinking if the big bull run won't come as described by OP.

It could come to a point an investor will fold their card when disappointed for a extended period of time and not meeting the expectation. The short term investor would actually give up when nothing is happening, it will just be what kind of investor we are.
If you buy bitcoin and have a plan to invest, the most suitable is long-term investment. Be patient and always calm in facing the highly volatile crypto market, we don't need to be disappointed when the crypto market goes down because the market will go up again. That's the habit of the crypto market that makes many investors interested in investing in crypto.

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Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
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Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
« Reply #82 on: November 11, 2024, 11:59:14 PM »

 I'd be disappointed. What is seemingly a good time to invest because the year is a halving year turned out to be a no profit year. Just thinking about how much time wasted when I could have just invest in gold because its price is more profitable.

When somebody said this election is all about crypto, I thought price could go up because of it. So we still have about few months to find out.

You shouldn't be discouraged on your crypto investments because market has not started moving in your favor, just remember that patience remains the key for all investments. I think with good knowledge about how the market works, you should understand that Bitcoin has a four year circle and within this four years, the market will put up a bullish momentum that will yield a good returns.

In addition, the reason the US election is tie to the crypto market this year is because Donald Trump, one of the presidential candidates has made several promises about bitcoin developments if elected the president. On this note, many crypto enthusiast has been expecting this election to come his to favor, and i know that many people are waiting  upon this hope.

It hasn't reached the 100k yet but it's worth it now. Crypto market place will not disappoint us in the long run I was just thinking if the big bull run won't come as described by OP.

It could come to a point an investor will fold their card when disappointed for a extended period of time and not meeting the expectation. The short term investor would actually give up when nothing is happening, it will just be what kind of investor we are.
If you buy bitcoin and have a plan to invest, the most suitable is long-term investment. Be patient and always calm in facing the highly volatile crypto market, we don't need to be disappointed when the crypto market goes down because the market will go up again. That's the habit of the crypto market that makes many investors interested in investing in crypto.
That is right to say that Bitcoin is more appropriate to invest if we have long-term perspective and high level of patience. During this investment period, patience is highly important since volatile trends in the market are characteristic of high volatility at times. This is because we do not have to act erratically and without caution whenever the market dwindles, but at the same time get to have more opportunities and expand when the market starts to gain strength again and starts to boom. But swings like this are familiar and are, in fact the primary reason many investors still maintain hope and faith in the future of crypto given that always opportunities that come over time.

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Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
« Reply #83 on: November 16, 2024, 06:29:40 PM »
That is right to say that Bitcoin is more appropriate to invest if we have long-term perspective and high level of patience. During this investment period, patience is highly important since volatile trends in the market are characteristic of high volatility at times.
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If you invest money that you are ready to lose at any moment and you do not need that money for everyday living expenses, then it is much easier to endure periods of price correction and bear markets. If, in addition to all that, you understand Bitcoin in its most essential basics, then you will not have those basic doubts and fears that run through the market every time the same market finds itself in the red.

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Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
« Reply #84 on: November 16, 2024, 06:41:10 PM »
Bitcoin is not for those who act like children and are fascinated at one moment because they "profit" 10% in one day, and are in total panic when they "lose" 5% the next day.
Very true, Bitcoin is mainly for Hodlers who hold their investment and make profits from it when it goes 100% up or more, and some people are even Hodling it for long term like 5 to 10 years. Although, the traders do make profit when Bitcoin moves up 5% or more and some traders just want it to move 1% and they use compounding to grow their capital but the best way to see Bitcoin is by Holding it not trading it for 1% to 10% gain.
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Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
« Reply #85 on: November 16, 2024, 07:35:26 PM »
Bitcoin is not for those who act like children and are fascinated at one moment because they "profit" 10% in one day, and are in total panic when they "lose" 5% the next day.
Very true, Bitcoin is mainly for Hodlers who hold their investment and make profits from it when it goes 100% up or more, and some people are even Hodling it for long term like 5 to 10 years. Although, the traders do make profit when Bitcoin moves up 5% or more and some traders just want it to move 1% and they use compounding to grow their capital but the best way to see Bitcoin is by Holding it not trading it for 1% to 10% gain.

As a matter of facts Bitcoin is for everyone, investors, traders, Holders, and online users. Traders, Holders, investors are part takers of the Bitcoin ecosystem and there  no proven facts among these three group of persons that is most important.
As a trader, I feel that traders activities help the crypto market uptrends, through regular demands, however Holders can also proof that they're the major market makers, while the investor could claim to be the major market movers through their consistency investments. I think that these group of users are very important, and they coesist on the Bitcoin ecosystem to boost market price, growth and developments.

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Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
« Reply #86 on: November 16, 2024, 10:38:10 PM »
Bitcoin is not for those who act like children and are fascinated at one moment because they "profit" 10% in one day, and are in total panic when they "lose" 5% the next day.
Very true, Bitcoin is mainly for Hodlers who hold their investment and make profits from it when it goes 100% up or more, and some people are even Hodling it for long term like 5 to 10 years. Although, the traders do make profit when Bitcoin moves up 5% or more and some traders just want it to move 1% and they use compounding to grow their capital but the best way to see Bitcoin is by Holding it not trading it for 1% to 10% gain.

As a matter of facts Bitcoin is for everyone, investors, traders, Holders, and online users. Traders, Holders, investors are part takers of the Bitcoin ecosystem and there  no proven facts among these three group of persons that is most important.
As a trader, I feel that traders activities help the crypto market uptrends, through regular demands, however Holders can also proof that they're the major market makers, while the investor could claim to be the major market movers through their consistency investments. I think that these group of users are very important, and they coesist on the Bitcoin ecosystem to boost market price, growth and developments.
All play a good role, as holders, investors and traders they play their respective roles. I am a trader, I play a role as an active person in trading the coin. but actually in trading we see the movement of trading volume will increase if large capital investors buy bitcoins in large quantities to increase bitcoin demand. If demand increases the price of bitcoin will also increase.

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Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
« Reply #87 on: November 17, 2024, 02:41:16 PM »
Bitcoin is not for those who act like children and are fascinated at one moment because they "profit" 10% in one day, and are in total panic when they "lose" 5% the next day.
Very true, Bitcoin is mainly for Hodlers who hold their investment and make profits from it when it goes 100% up or more, and some people are even Hodling it for long term like 5 to 10 years. Although, the traders do make profit when Bitcoin moves up 5% or more and some traders just want it to move 1% and they use compounding to grow their capital but the best way to see Bitcoin is by Holding it not trading it for 1% to 10% gain.

As a matter of facts Bitcoin is for everyone, investors, traders, Holders, and online users. Traders, Holders, investors are part takers of the Bitcoin ecosystem and there  no proven facts among these three group of persons that is most important.
As a trader, I feel that traders activities help the crypto market uptrends, through regular demands, however Holders can also proof that they're the major market makers, while the investor could claim to be the major market movers through their consistency investments. I think that these group of users are very important, and they coesist on the Bitcoin ecosystem to boost market price, growth and developments.
All play a good role, as holders, investors and traders they play their respective roles. I am a trader, I play a role as an active person in trading the coin. but actually in trading we see the movement of trading volume will increase if large capital investors buy bitcoins in large quantities to increase bitcoin demand. If demand increases the price of bitcoin will also increase.
Every participant in the crypto market makes a colossal impact on market volatility. Being traders, our main advantage is that we can react immediately to the changes in the market and also react to fluctuating prices. This role gets even more important in managing the increased activity seen in the level of trading volumes. The relationship between big buyers and the market give both benefits and drawbacks on where we are capable to work on the approaches applied in our ordinary selling.

But we have to be conscious that prices are not the sum of a single element like demand but is also influenced any other factors like global sentiment, economic news and many other regulatory policies. By this we can enhance the probability of arriving at better decisions due to having understood a larger picture. This enables us not only respond to the market tensions but also better provide the more mature steps on how to sustain the sensible profitability over time.
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Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
« Reply #88 on: November 17, 2024, 05:52:53 PM »
Bitcoin is not for those who act like children and are fascinated at one moment because they "profit" 10% in one day, and are in total panic when they "lose" 5% the next day.
Very true, Bitcoin is mainly for Hodlers who hold their investment and make profits from it when it goes 100% up or more, and some people are even Hodling it for long term like 5 to 10 years. Although, the traders do make profit when Bitcoin moves up 5% or more and some traders just want it to move 1% and they use compounding to grow their capital but the best way to see Bitcoin is by Holding it not trading it for 1% to 10% gain.
I agree with you the best way to profit from bitcoin is to hold it, I choose altcoin to trade instead of bitcoin because I see altcoin is more volatile on certain coins and at certain times.
I also hold my bitcoin, just to hold and sell it during the bullish season. But there are friends who use big capital to trade with bitcoin and they enjoy it. Actually, everyone has their own considerations in seeking profit in the crypto world, and sometimes we have different thoughts and strategies with them, that's normal.

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Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
« Reply #89 on: November 18, 2024, 04:27:38 PM »
Bitcoin is not for those who act like children and are fascinated at one moment because they "profit" 10% in one day, and are in total panic when they "lose" 5% the next day.
Very true, Bitcoin is mainly for Hodlers who hold their investment and make profits from it when it goes 100% up or more, and some people are even Hodling it for long term like 5 to 10 years. Although, the traders do make profit when Bitcoin moves up 5% or more and some traders just want it to move 1% and they use compounding to grow their capital but the best way to see Bitcoin is by Holding it not trading it for 1% to 10% gain.

I would like to point out that BTC is not only for those who invest in it only for profit, but also for those who use it as a cryptocurrency and a hedge against inflation and the loss of value of their national currencies.

However, everyone chooses their own way of using BTC, and the combination of all that ultimately results in its value, which we see over the years. Despite the doubts that always exist, it seems that BTC will not disappoint even this year/next year :)
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