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Re: TRADERS are not UNEMPLOYED
« Reply #195 on: April 03, 2025, 01:36:31 PM »


The only problem is that passive income is not easy for an individual to achieve. Even if you are an employee or have been hired by a company, you are not automatically a regular employee right away, of course there are companies that require them to first go through a contractual period of 6 months then after that a 6-month probationary period before becoming a regular employee.

So once you become a regular employee, you have passive income that can be called until you grow old, the same goes for traditional business,
and here in crypto trading that we are doing now.
I am also a contract employee in a company and I have not become a permanent employee because I am still new there. However, the income I receive from crypto is enough to help me meet my living needs and I am grateful for that.
Being an employee and trading is a decision I have taken at this time because I have not thought about starting a new business in the real world.
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Re: TRADERS are not UNEMPLOYED
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Re: TRADERS are not UNEMPLOYED
« Reply #196 on: April 03, 2025, 04:17:40 PM »
There are still many who think that trading activities are just fun and not a job, but trading is work, trading is categorized as self-employed or in the big dictionary -> people who work for themselves, so traders immediately refute those who think you are unemployed just because they don't see you have a boss, you are your own boss, don't be discouraged by what they say, if you are very comfortable and get consistent profits then keep it because when you try to find work out there, you it will only waste your opportunity to become a professional trader.

However, traders are advised to have a fairly stable side income to support their finances because the market always moves freely and unpredictably.

anyway, I have created this topic in another forum.
Well i also believe that trading is a kind of work but not all traders earn consistently, sometimes we will experience loss or earn very few digits in trading that is why most of the people do trading as a part time job, they will do their regular job and then do trading after they work,it depends on time management and strategy on how to make earnings,but only one thing for sure traders are not unemployed because trading is a work and it can give us profit or income.

Is it me or is it that am actually getting everything confused up in my head because at the initial thought of seeing this thread, my view was tied to the trading as per cryptocurrency trading and not your normal business trade because the replies am seeing is actually making confused because it seems users here are certain that you can relate cryptocurrency trading as a means of job employment which is a total blasphemy for me.
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Re: TRADERS are not UNEMPLOYED
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Re: TRADERS are not UNEMPLOYED
« Reply #197 on: April 03, 2025, 08:09:08 PM »
There are still many who think that trading activities are just fun and not a job, but trading is work, trading is categorized as self-employed or in the big dictionary -> people who work for themselves, so traders immediately refute those who think you are unemployed just because they don't see you have a boss, you are your own boss, don't be discouraged by what they say, if you are very comfortable and get consistent profits then keep it because when you try to find work out there, you it will only waste your opportunity to become a professional trader.

However, traders are advised to have a fairly stable side income to support their finances because the market always moves freely and unpredictably.

anyway, I have created this topic in another forum.
Well i also believe that trading is a kind of work but not all traders earn consistently, sometimes we will experience loss or earn very few digits in trading that is why most of the people do trading as a part time job, they will do their regular job and then do trading after they work,it depends on time management and strategy on how to make earnings,but only one thing for sure traders are not unemployed because trading is a work and it can give us profit or income.

Is it me or is it that am actually getting everything confused up in my head because at the initial thought of seeing this thread, my view was tied to the trading as per cryptocurrency trading and not your normal business trade because the replies am seeing is actually making confused because it seems users here are certain that you can relate cryptocurrency trading as a means of job employment which is a total blasphemy for me.
Maybe for those who can trade professionally can get consistent income and consider being a trader as a permanent job. However, some also suggest trading as a side job, it all comes back to each person's ability and expertise. Personally, I consider trading as a side job because I still have other businesses besides being a crypto trader.
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Re: TRADERS are not UNEMPLOYED
« Reply #198 on: April 03, 2025, 08:17:24 PM »
Maybe for those who can trade professionally can get consistent income and consider being a trader as a permanent job. However, some also suggest trading as a side job, it all comes back to each person's ability and expertise. Personally, I consider trading as a side job because I still have other businesses besides being a crypto trader.
You can earn money by trading and a lot of technical analysis has to be done here. So trading is definitely a job. You can't get anything for free in this world without doing any work. No one can ever call traders unemployed. A trader is able to earn many times more money than a job holder. So how can a trader be unemployed? Traders are definitely not unemployed. Whoever says trading is unemployment he doesn't know anything about trading.
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Re: TRADERS are not UNEMPLOYED
« Reply #199 on: April 04, 2025, 12:23:58 AM »
Actually anything that can generate income to you can be called a job. However it is said that gamble can not be called a side hustle and yest it's true but there are folks that do make money from it consistently. Although there are times which a trader makes profits and there are times which traders don't and likewise gamblers too.
So my point is as long as it can generate money for you without any huge losses it can be called a side hustle.
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Re: TRADERS are not UNEMPLOYED
« Reply #200 on: April 05, 2025, 09:47:42 PM »
Actually anything that can generate income to you can be called a job. However it is said that gamble can not be called a side hustle and yest it's true but there are folks that do make money from it consistently. Although there are times which a trader makes profits and there are times which traders don't and likewise gamblers too.
So my point is as long as it can generate money for you without any huge losses it can be called a side hustle.
It is completely true, as long as one’s activity brings stable income, and does not lead to high losses, then one can speak about the side job. Admittedly, gambling may be different from other jobs but the reality is, there are people who have been making money from other risks-related operations on a continuous basis. It is the same with the cases of trading since the world has the opportunities to earn and increase, there are also risks of getting a loss. The question here is, what does the difference a person make in relation to handling the risk and the ability to know when one has ventured enough. Although evaluating its earnings do not result to continuous losses, anybody has the right to claim that it is an acceptable side hustle.

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Re: TRADERS are not UNEMPLOYED
« Reply #201 on: April 05, 2025, 11:15:12 PM »
Whatever someone does and they make little or much profit from it can be taken as a job. For the case of trading, it will not be advised to have it as a job because of the level of uncertainty of the market that you can't always predict correctly. Building your future around such an endeavor is highly risky because you can lose your assets because of the wrong move taken in trading

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Re: TRADERS are not UNEMPLOYED
« Reply #202 on: April 05, 2025, 11:39:24 PM »
There are still many who think that trading activities are just fun and not a job, but trading is work, trading is categorized as self-employed or in the big dictionary -> people who work for themselves, so traders immediately refute those who think you are unemployed just because they don't see you have a boss, you are your own boss, don't be discouraged by what they say, if you are very comfortable and get consistent profits then keep it because when you try to find work out there, you it will only waste your opportunity to become a professional trader.

However, traders are advised to have a fairly stable side income to support their finances because the market always moves freely and unpredictably.

anyway, I have created this topic in another forum.
Being employed does just mean wearing you suit and tie in the morning and go to your work pace. Like you said there is what is called self employment, where one works for himself, and trading fits into this category. See something ehn if you are making your cool cash from trading you don't even have to mind what people think or say, because their thoughts and speech isn't what credit you bank or provide food on the table. And also with the way the economy is going most companies lay off their workers for no justifiable reason that is why being self employed still remains the best.
However as a trader you should note that the market may not always be in your favor, so you should make investment in place which can yield you money anytime the market is not in your favor.
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Re: TRADERS are not UNEMPLOYED
« Reply #203 on: April 05, 2025, 11:53:22 PM »
However as a trader you should note that the market may not always be in your favor, so you should make investment in place which can yield you money anytime the market is not in your favor.
Indeed, this is one of the basic knowledge when entering the crypto world, that the market is always volatile, always changing, whether it is a small, medium or large change. so this should no longer be something new and surprising as long as we understand the situation.

but the problem is that maybe those who are new to it often do not equip themselves with basic things and understanding like this. so, they are very easily carried away by different situations, easily panic when the market is up or down. and this is very bad in doing business in crypto.
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Re: TRADERS are not UNEMPLOYED
« Reply #204 on: April 06, 2025, 10:56:35 AM »


The only problem is that passive income is not easy for an individual to achieve. Even if you are an employee or have been hired by a company, you are not automatically a regular employee right away, of course there are companies that require them to first go through a contractual period of 6 months then after that a 6-month probationary period before becoming a regular employee.

So once you become a regular employee, you have passive income that can be called until you grow old, the same goes for traditional business,
and here in crypto trading that we are doing now.
I am also a contract employee in a company and I have not become a permanent employee because I am still new there. However, the income I receive from crypto is enough to help me meet my living needs and I am grateful for that.
Being an employee and trading is a decision I have taken at this time because I have not thought about starting a new business in the real world.

Good for you that you are a contract employee even though you are not regular in the company but if the contract continues you will still be considered as a regular employee dude because your salary is also continuous as an employee.

And it is also good that besides being employed you are still getting profit in the crypto industry and that is something that is fun because you are managing your time properly here, so what you are doing is good dude, keep it up and I hope other people with us here can do the same.
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Re: TRADERS are not UNEMPLOYED
« Reply #205 on: April 06, 2025, 02:57:13 PM »

You can treat trading as your business if you want to. But when people around you are just used to thinking being employed means going to a workplace, they'd still be seeing you as unemployed.

What matters is you are earning. You could tend other things to do though which is a big plus being a trader. You have freedom.

I agree with you, my friend, let people think you are unemployed, the most important thing is how we earn income every day so that we can show people that earning money is not only by going to work, but nowadays technology is sophisticated, most people earn a lot of money from technology, even more than the salary of a factory worker. If we still don't accept being considered like that, it's better for us to open a small business or work at a workplace so that people don't say things like that, just as a side job, my friend.

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Re: TRADERS are not UNEMPLOYED
« Reply #206 on: April 06, 2025, 03:15:02 PM »

You can treat trading as your business if you want to. But when people around you are just used to thinking being employed means going to a workplace, they'd still be seeing you as unemployed.

What matters is you are earning. You could tend other things to do though which is a big plus being a trader. You have freedom.

I agree with you, my friend, let people think you are unemployed, the most important thing is how we earn income every day so that we can show people that earning money is not only by going to work, but nowadays technology is sophisticated, most people earn a lot of money from technology, even more than the salary of a factory worker. If we still don't accept being considered like that, it's better for us to open a small business or work at a workplace so that people don't say things like that, just as a side job, my friend.

It doesn't matter if people see you as unemployed or not, what matters is the revenue you are getting from trading. If your trading income is worth making you to just stay at home and make your money without much struggle from 9-5 work, then it doesn't matter if other See's you as unemployed because they don't know what you are doing in your closet and you don't also have anything to prove to them, let them think what they want. Some people doesn't really know that in this era a lot of people are making millions of dollars just sitting in their personal office at their homes.

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Re: TRADERS are not UNEMPLOYED
« Reply #207 on: April 06, 2025, 04:02:52 PM »
It doesn't matter if people see you as unemployed or not, what matters is the revenue you are getting from trading. If your trading income is worth making you to just stay at home and make your money without much struggle from 9-5 work, then it doesn't matter if other See's you as unemployed because they don't know what you are doing in your closet and you don't also have anything to prove to them, let them think what they want. Some people doesn't really know that in this era a lot of people are making millions of dollars just sitting in their personal office at their homes.
As somebody that's considered introvert, I always want people to see me as an "UNEMPLOYED" person. Why? TBH, I don't know, but it just satisfies me to see that those people who are saying that I am unemployed are earning way lesser than what I'm earning, and I'm doing it at our home while they're spending 8 hours earning minimum wage. :D Am I bad if I think that way? :D

Anyway, I see traders as freelancers that are employed, but in a different way. While the most common is we have employers while the most common freelancers have clients, traders have nothing, but still, they're earning the same or sometimes even higher than other people out there. Like you said, let them think what they want because at the end of the day, they don't know what you're doing. The only time that you will show it to them is when you built something for yourself already like a house and lot, or a car as a fruit of your trading. Of course, I'm way too far from that dream of mine still. :D

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Re: TRADERS are not UNEMPLOYED
« Reply #208 on: April 07, 2025, 10:29:39 PM »

You can treat trading as your business if you want to. But when people around you are just used to thinking being employed means going to a workplace, they'd still be seeing you as unemployed.

What matters is you are earning. You could tend other things to do though which is a big plus being a trader. You have freedom.

I agree with you, my friend, let people think you are unemployed, the most important thing is how we earn income every day so that we can show people that earning money is not only by going to work, but nowadays technology is sophisticated, most people earn a lot of money from technology, even more than the salary of a factory worker. If we still don't accept being considered like that, it's better for us to open a small business or work at a workplace so that people don't say things like that, just as a side job, my friend.

It doesn't matter if people see you as unemployed or not, what matters is the revenue you are getting from trading. If your trading income is worth making you to just stay at home and make your money without much struggle from 9-5 work, then it doesn't matter if other See's you as unemployed because they don't know what you are doing in your closet and you don't also have anything to prove to them, let them think what they want. Some people doesn't really know that in this era a lot of people are making millions of dollars just sitting in their personal office at their homes.
There are really that those individual who are really that mindful or does really like to hear out other peoples sentiments on which they are that too sensitve on whatever they are been able to heard on. There are those times or situations that you are becoming that too mindful about on what other people been saying towards you. If you are unemployed and doing trading? So what?
They arent the ones who do feed you and support you on your day to day living and we do have our own lives that we are currently that dealing on with, on which its much better that we should mind our own business rather than on letting ourselves that trying to get involved on what others lives do have.

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Re: TRADERS are not UNEMPLOYED
« Reply #209 on: April 08, 2025, 12:06:43 AM »
You are right here that passive income in crypto often has to be approached more critically. Very few platforms can maintain these systems over time, and thus, what pleases the eye may turn out to be rather ambiguous. Trading, thus, is often stated to be the only thing that lets a person take full control over their economical profits knowingly and actively. Using own initiatives in reading the market is somewhat far better than waiting for something uncertain. Some have attempted to present similar systems that look promising, but they cannot stand firm and people revert back to somewhat ordinary and viable opportunities.
It is very true, in fact, I have seen some reels and advertising that they have on Binance about having passive income , when the money is put under a plan where it cannot be withdrawn ,they have it blocked and it generates a percentage, there is also a very peculiar case with a casino and the affiliate system, how the affiliates managed to get a lot, the income was renewable and what did the casino do ? lower those incomes to something that there is no point in looking for more, then things fall, they do not work, and in part it is due to a bad advertising calculation.
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