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Re: Could it be that the cycle is coming to an end?
« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2025, 08:42:04 PM »
I am thinking we do a double top.

The 2025 Trump actions are much like the 2021 China move to kick out miners.

So here's hoping to  see 115 or 120k this fall.

I'm seeing some people confident that it will repeat 2021 and the double top
I confess it would be great

Talking to a friend about predictions some time ago (only prediction) I said that I expected BTC to reach 120k in this cycle and that would be great
He called me a pessimist for not believing in at least 150k  ;D

120k would be very good

we'd all be happy if this happens. there is a reason to be optimistic about the market though since the price racing gradually. there are influencers trying to fuel the optimism in the market which i think there is a truth behind it when they say the tariff war will keep the Bitcoin adoption winning wild.

cycle might really be supercycle since the market hasn't dive in the very steep way and a double top would be the very possible. the question is if altcoin season will happen while we see the double top is forming.

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Re: Could it be that the cycle is coming to an end?
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Re: Could it be that the cycle is coming to an end?
« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2025, 05:56:22 PM »
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cycle might really be supercycle since the market hasn't dive in the very steep way and a double top would be the very possible. the question is if altcoin season will happen while we see the double top is forming.
For now the Tariff War is affecting the movement of bitcoin to another All Time High. And we strongly believed that after the Tariff War, bitcoin will rise again to the predictions of either 120k or 150k. But nobody knows when the Tariff War will end since China is also ready for the retaliation and America government is interested to increase the Tariff from their end and for me, this might result to World War because as it is, other countries might support America and China to increase theirs.

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Re: Could it be that the cycle is coming to an end?
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Re: Could it be that the cycle is coming to an end?
« Reply #17 on: April 16, 2025, 06:37:45 PM »
Still no break out (either way) but at least there's a chance April will end in green, which would not be hard to achieve, given the opening price at the 1st April was $82,552 (per CMC), so all it takes is for the price to stay where it is.
I don't know if it's just a market sentiment or intentional manipulation, but it looks like something is holding the price down below the $85k, and I'm starting to doubt whether we'll able to go back above $100k in this cycle without some sort of catalyst (e.g. the end of the tariff wars etc).
The fact that we were cheering price briefly returning to $86k yesterday, only shows how people's expectations have lowered, which could be a bearish sign.

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Re: Could it be that the cycle is coming to an end?
« Reply #18 on: April 16, 2025, 10:12:35 PM »
For now the Tariff War is affecting the movement of bitcoin to another All Time High. And we strongly believed that after the Tariff War, bitcoin will rise again to the predictions of either 120k or 150k. But nobody knows when the Tariff War will end since China is also ready for the retaliation and America government is interested to increase the Tariff from their end and for me, this might result to World War because as it is, other countries might support America and China to increase theirs.
Even if I admit Tariff war has an impact on Bitcoin price movement, I don't think it has a big impact. If Bitcoin price can increase a bit, it is surely the time for an increase. We passed 3 months in the early of this year without a significant increase of Bitcoin (check the Bitcoin monthly return). We even have 2 months for the red market. I think it is normal if Bitcoin price is trying to increase a bit now. Regarding the response of China about the Tariff war, they must be ready for the challenge. I'm sure US government won't be brave enough to have a tariff war with China. China looks better in the economical power.

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Re: Could it be that the cycle is coming to an end?
« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2025, 06:58:23 PM »
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cycle might really be supercycle since the market hasn't dive in the very steep way and a double top would be the very possible. the question is if altcoin season will happen while we see the double top is forming.
For now the Tariff War is affecting the movement of bitcoin to another All Time High. And we strongly believed that after the Tariff War, bitcoin will rise again to the predictions of either 120k or 150k. But nobody knows when the Tariff War will end since China is also ready for the retaliation and America government is interested to increase the Tariff from their end and for me, this might result to World War because as it is, other countries might support America and China to increase theirs.

The trade war was not anything we expected as we were already coming to see an end to the consolidation of the market after bitcoin dropped from $100K. Trump was a crypto lover and no one ever saw that his policy will have any negative effect in the crypto market but we can now see how his policy on tariff war with other nation has caused the market to be unpredictable. The whole market is been affected by his severe policy rules and as you’ve said, until this tariff war comes to an end, we will not understand the direction of the market again.

China and America have now locked horns and none of them is willing to compromise for each other, so this is going to be a long time thing. I am not foreseeing a world war anytime soon, hopefully the tariff war comes to an end soon and we are the market recover back, that’s a long time been anticipated for it.

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Re: Could it be that the cycle is coming to an end?
« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2025, 11:18:24 PM »
The price is pretty stagnant, but the Fear & Greed index and Bitcoin's dominance are slowly rising. I'm not sure if this is a bullish or bearish sign (or any sign at all).
I guess the rising dominance would fit in with the theory that this cycle's ATH is still ahead of us, and maybe even we would even see the altcon season that many were hoping for (myself excluded).
Currently, the price is still struggling to stay above the $85k, but maybe the Easter bunny will bring us some small rally just so we can finally see some action.

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Re: Could it be that the cycle is coming to an end?
« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2025, 08:43:16 PM »
The price is pretty stagnant, but the Fear & Greed index and Bitcoin's dominance are slowly rising. I'm not sure if this is a bullish or bearish sign (or any sign at all).
I guess the rising dominance would fit in with the theory that this cycle's ATH is still ahead of us, and maybe even we would even see the altcon season that many were hoping for (myself excluded).
Currently, the price is still struggling to stay above the $85k, but maybe the Easter bunny will bring us some small rally just so we can finally see some action.

     -     As of the moment, there is no doubt that we are still sideways, and I see that it will rise to 86k$ but it looks like there will be another rejection here which will be the reason for the drop to 83k$ 0 81k$, this is also the disadvantage when we are in ranging momentum.

While we are in momentum like this where it is difficult to determine where the direction of the Bitcoin price is, we always have the thought of whether there will be a breakout at resistance or at support? These are questions that we ourselves have difficulty finding the answer to.

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Re: Could it be that the cycle is coming to an end?
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Re: Could it be that the cycle is coming to an end?
« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2025, 09:58:49 PM »
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cycle might really be supercycle since the market hasn't dive in the very steep way and a double top would be the very possible. the question is if altcoin season will happen while we see the double top is forming.
For now the Tariff War is affecting the movement of bitcoin to another All Time High. And we strongly believed that after the Tariff War, bitcoin will rise again to the predictions of either 120k or 150k. But nobody knows when the Tariff War will end since China is also ready for the retaliation and America government is interested to increase the Tariff from their end and for me, this might result to World War because as it is, other countries might support America and China to increase theirs.

The trade war was not anything we expected as we were already coming to see an end to the consolidation of the market after bitcoin dropped from $100K. Trump was a crypto lover and no one ever saw that his policy will have any negative effect in the crypto market but we can now see how his policy on tariff war with other nation has caused the market to be unpredictable. The whole market is been affected by his severe policy rules and as you’ve said, until this tariff war comes to an end, we will not understand the direction of the market again.

China and America have now locked horns and none of them is willing to compromise for each other, so this is going to be a long time thing. I am not foreseeing a world war anytime soon, hopefully the tariff war comes to an end soon and we are the market recover back, that’s a long time been anticipated for it.

the heat is increasing while US and China is about to start a war in the west Philippine sea. This tariff war is even making worse because none of them is backing away.

I don;t think the cycle will change normally in terms of demand and supply when there is war, its the necessity of the countries to avoid the centralized swift and the dollar devaluation.

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Re: Could it be that the cycle is coming to an end?
« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2025, 10:43:09 PM »
the heat is increasing while US and China is about to start a war in the west Philippine sea. This tariff war is even making worse because none of them is backing away.

I don;t think the cycle will change normally in terms of demand and supply when there is war, its the necessity of the countries to avoid the centralized swift and the dollar devaluation.
but unfortunately this will be quite difficult if those big countries also do not stop it from happening. many politics of interest are happening, and the war between the superpowers is a reality that greatly influences the global economic situation. not only in crypto, but in general.

let's just wait for the next few months whether this condition will decline and get better because of a certain agreement between them or not. what is clear is that we must be ready for any situation that occurs, which is even beyond our will and ability to intervene, what we can do is how our attitude and personal decisions are in facing and handling all existing conditions, not only to deal with all FUD, but also the bad reality that is happening now.

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Re: Could it be that the cycle is coming to an end?
« Reply #24 on: April 22, 2025, 11:07:12 PM »
Both, S&P 500 and Nasdaq moved up by over 2.5% while Bitcoin did almost twice as much. What's comforting, both indices were in red yesterday but bitcoin went up anyways, which shows that the cyclical pattern might actually be stronger than the correlation with traditional stocks.
Right now we're trading above $91k, which is great to see after a prolonged period of stagnation, but it's a bit too soon to call it a breakaway. If it carries on moving up for another 2-3 days, or at least if the price manages to stay above the $90k, that would be a sign that the bull run in this cycle is not yet over.

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Re: Could it be that the cycle is coming to an end?
« Reply #25 on: April 22, 2025, 11:51:26 PM »
Both, S&P 500 and Nasdaq moved up by over 2.5% while Bitcoin did almost twice as much. What's comforting, both indices were in red yesterday but bitcoin went up anyways, which shows that the cyclical pattern might actually be stronger than the correlation with traditional stocks.
Right now we're trading above $91k, which is great to see after a prolonged period of stagnation, but it's a bit too soon to call it a breakaway. If it carries on moving up for another 2-3 days, or at least if the price manages to stay above the $90k, that would be a sign that the bull run in this cycle is not yet over.
It seems that tariff weeks ago is just a plan to drop the market a bit including stocks after trump said "This is the great time to buy!" All stocks including Bitcoin suddenly increase I feel like right now Bitcoin can be control by just a one word.
This is different from before we can only see price increase after block halving but right now even not block halving if there a bad or good news there a big impact on the BTC price.
All patterns and oversold signal just rejected and price keeps pushing my estimate price before consolidation is around $94k  EMA indicator still telling you to keep buying.

While typing the price suddenly spike to $94k. It seems it grab all liquidity.
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