Hi Is it possibie to join this campaign ?
In the current times, crypto mixers face challenges as regulators hunt them down, seemingly assuming they are solely utilized for criminal purposes. However, in reality, fiat paper money constitutes 99% of the shadow economy worldwide.
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In the current times, crypto mixers face challenges as regulators hunt them down, seemingly assuming they are solely utilized for criminal purposes. However, in reality, fiat paper money constitutes 99% of the shadow economy worldwide.
Hello and welcome to the forum. Having done a bit of research on the Mixero service, one interesting question has come up. Will the ability to mix other cryptocurrencies besides bitcoin be added? Yes, I realize bitcoin is the most sought after. Still, interesting. 8)
Hello, you can currently mix Ethereum with our advanced method. This has been available for a few months now.Yes? Thanks, I'll know. I only saw bitcoin information on the site. I missed the point about Ethereum + XMR. ::)
Why in advanced mode we have fewer options than in Coinjoin mode? OK, except for the Ethereum mix.
There is no possibility of adding another address and also it is not even possible to determine a specific delay time. A bit unusual for an advanced type of service.
(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/01/02/sd8Ow.png)
As for adding multiple addresses, the challenge lies in the fact that this would require a separate exchange process for each address. Nonetheless, we are exploring simpler alternative solutions and are actively working on their development.
As for adding multiple addresses, the challenge lies in the fact that this would require a separate exchange process for each address. Nonetheless, we are exploring simpler alternative solutions and are actively working on their development.
Thanks for the explanation, I completely overlooked that the extra XMR layer was used in advanced mode, now it sounds much more logical. Does the same reason apply to Ethereum transactions?
Today is the second time that your clearnet site seems buggy. For example, now I can't go to the mixing page via the button, nothing happens on click. Earlier I had a problem switching from Coinjoin to advanced mode, it was only possible after refreshing the page. Now even refresh doesn't help, the same thing in two different browsers.
Edit: the mixing page opened after a really long time
Is there a roadmap of Mixero service somewhere? It would be interesting to read or hear from You about further plans for the development of the project. Thank you in advance for Your reply.
Personally, I don't think any mixer as a project needs any kind of Roadmap. This is not a project that attracts investors or anything like that. Any mixer is a tool with a set of specific functionality, it does not need a road map. Adding new options can always be discussed with clients through feedback, for example on forums like BTT and our forum.I realize that this is a new project and the range of services is quite different. (from those who have a roadmap). Still, I'm curious. I know most mixers don't have road maps. Maybe Mixero will have one, we don't know that.
But this is just my opinion, I may be wrong.
Personally, I don't think any mixer as a project needs any kind of Roadmap. This is not a project that attracts investors or anything like that. Any mixer is a tool with a set of specific functionality, it does not need a road map. Adding new options can always be discussed with clients through feedback, for example on forums like BTT and our forum.
But this is just my opinion, I may be wrong.
Mixero.io, hello
Perhaps I didn't notice, do you have an affiliate program? For instance, I would like to share information about your service on my Telegram channel. Is there a referral link, or is this not something you practice? Or in what formats is cooperation possible? Please advise where I can find this information.
Thanks
We are pleased to announce that the delay option is available for our advanced method for a maximum duration of 168 hours (7 days).
Delay is an interesting functionality. Could you please explain to me in a little more detail in what cases this function is necessary? It is probably needed in order to separate as much as possible in time the sending of bitcoin and the receipt after processing, and thus disguise the use of the mixer.
Am I thinking correctly?
UPDATE :Thanks for sharing with us, upcoming updates! It's great.
We are pleased to announce that the delay option is available for our advanced method for a maximum duration of 168 hours (7 days).
We are currently working on a new design for our website which should be available later this month.Will we have access to the service while uploading the new design? ::)
Are there any plans to create a Mixero app for Android + IOS ?
Hello,
I sent in mixero advenced mode in eth and I received nothing. In etherscan its a problem "out of fuel" !
I sent 2 emails with the LetterOfGuarantee but no reply....
What I need to do ?
MINOR UPDATE :
Hello everyone, we've just updated our CoinJoin mixing algorithm to give you even more privacy :).
Our new design is available soon, so stay tuned.
I guess, we cannot get information, even partial, about what type of upgrade was done ::)Mixer are trust business. On the other hand, in my experience when anything become wrong then no third party can help you in affiliate business. You drive traffic to their website and give them sales, tomorrow they will make a change in their terms and suddenly you become no body.
I am interested in your API and its purpose, is it intended for your affiliate partners, and what is the advantage of using it? I don't know how much it is used, but isn't it a bit risky for the third party, because in case of any issue (and they do happen) it is much more complicated to solve it through an intermediary.
I guess, we cannot get information, even partial, about what type of upgrade was done ::)Most of these updates are due to the problem of fees. They will try to make the activity profitable by charging reasonable fees to users, and since all mixing is done on the chain, increasing fees will inevitably lead to a weaker mixing algorithm. Mixero has the Monero bridge. If they focus on developing it so that the fees become the cheapest.
@Mixero.io, I just went to your site to view the new UI but then I noticed something odd. I was able to proceed to the next step without having to input my destination address - if someone should make an error and proceed with making the deposit is there a way to add my destination address in the future? If No, then you should make the destination address mandatory before anyone can proceed to the next stage.
Hello, we are pleased to announce that our new design is now available on our clearnet. The tor version should be updated in the coming hours.
Don't hesitate to give us your feedback. ;)
Transactions incur service fees ranging from 0.7% to 4.7%, plus miner fees
Hello, we are pleased to announce that our new design is now available on our clearnet. The tor version should be updated in the coming hours.
Don't hesitate to give us your feedback. ;)
I like the new design, attractive and yet quite simple. Quite comfortable to use. I don't want to go back to see if it was before, I'm interested in a couple of things.QuoteTransactions incur service fees ranging from 0.7% to 4.7%, plus miner fees
How much is the miner fee? It used to be 0.0003 per address, is that still the case? It should be emphasized somewhere
What is the "random input"? I see that he raised the fee by 0.4%-0.5%
You don't have support for taproot addresses?
The input field is the same colour as the background, a bit confusing. I would change the colour or add alt text.
(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/02/08/vfDQo.png)
Hello, first of all we've just changed the input field and we've added a dark color in the background which should make the field quite visible.
The transaction fees are the same as before, and are described in our about page. We're going to add this information to the coinjoin page too, and we'll also add that we support Taproot addresses.
Finally, the random input option allows you to receive funds from multiple inputs.
Hello, first of all we've just changed the input field and we've added a dark color in the background which should make the field quite visible.
The transaction fees are the same as before, and are described in our about page. We're going to add this information to the coinjoin page too, and we'll also add that we support Taproot addresses.
Finally, the random input option allows you to receive funds from multiple inputs.
Thanks for the fast response.
I am not sure about Taproot address support, since I got the message "Invalid address" when typing it in the address field.
(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/02/09/vJpgl.png)
Hello, we had to finalize a few technical elements on our side, but Taproot is now operational for our CoinJoin method and soon for our Advanced method (probably 1-2 days).
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It's quite a unique method to mix Bitcoin, and I'm sure it will add an extra layer of privacy but I would like to know what will happen if a centralized exchange finds out that a user is doing conversion for a mixer service?
I mean won't it put any risk to the account that's registered on a centralized exchange which's going to be performing the mixing of Monero to Bitcoin. However, if the exchange can't find out that then it would be a great mixing.
You seem to have not understood the best of what is happening here.Man, I understood the whole thing what I was trying to say that the account that they use on centralized exchange for converting of XMR to BTC might get caught by the exchange as that happened with someone in past who swapped BTC to XMR via a decentralized exchange and then converted that XMR to BTC again but this time via a centralized exchange.
You as a user send BTC to Mixer and they send clean coins to your BTC address. So, you have nothing with anYou seem to have not understood the best of what is happening here.
You as a user send BTC to Mixer and they send clean coins to your BTC address. So, you have nothing with any exchange.
In the background, Mixer will send your Bitcoin (as Mixero) to a decentralised exchange swap it for XMR, then send those XMR to the centralised exchange and swap XMR to BTC. That BTC can be called "clean" because it comes from a centralized exchange.
CEX (the most risky point of the whole process) cannot track XMR, so there is no reason to block funds. It seems like a good solution, now the only question is how much all the transactions will cost.y exchange.
In the background, Mixer will send your Bitcoin (as Mixero) to a decentralised exchange swap it for XMR, then send those XMR to the centralised exchange and swap XMR to BTC. That BTC can be called "clean" because it comes from a centralized exchange.
CEX (the most risky point of the whole process) cannot track XMR, so there is no reason to block funds. It seems like a good solution, now the only question is how much all the transactions will cost.
You seem to have not understood the best of what is happening here.Man, I understood the whole thing what I was trying to say that the account that they use on centralized exchange for converting of XMR to BTC might get caught by the exchange as that happened with someone in past who swapped BTC to XMR via a decentralized exchange and then converted that XMR to BTC again but this time via a centralized exchange.
You as a user send BTC to Mixer and they send clean coins to your BTC address. So, you have nothing with anYou seem to have not understood the best of what is happening here.
You as a user send BTC to Mixer and they send clean coins to your BTC address. So, you have nothing with any exchange.
In the background, Mixer will send your Bitcoin (as Mixero) to a decentralised exchange swap it for XMR, then send those XMR to the centralised exchange and swap XMR to BTC. That BTC can be called "clean" because it comes from a centralized exchange.
CEX (the most risky point of the whole process) cannot track XMR, so there is no reason to block funds. It seems like a good solution, now the only question is how much all the transactions will cost.y exchange.
In the background, Mixer will send your Bitcoin (as Mixero) to a decentralised exchange swap it for XMR, then send those XMR to the centralised exchange and swap XMR to BTC. That BTC can be called "clean" because it comes from a centralized exchange.
CEX (the most risky point of the whole process) cannot track XMR, so there is no reason to block funds. It seems like a good solution, now the only question is how much all the transactions will cost.
By keeping that I mind I asked that what if the centralized exchange somehow finds that account which is going to be used to convert XMR back to BTC and then withdraw it to Mixero's wallet? I mean the probability of centralized exchange to find it is very high because they will suspect that only XMR comes in and Bitcoin goes out then something if fishy. I think you also know that some exchanges might consider XRP to BTC transactions risky because they believe that if only XMR comes in and BTC goes out then something can be wrong.
Centralized exchanges will never be able to determine that these funds originate from our service, as previously explained, we utilize a completely empty intermediate wallet with no transaction history. Moreover, due to Monero's (XMR) design, it is impossible for the exchange to identify the existence of the source address. This means they do not know where the funds are coming from. Therefore, they cannot block the funds since they do not have access to the history and cannot trace the funds' history.Thanks for the detailed answer, I wish you guys best of luck in choosing those exchanges which might not have such filters, I guess all major centralized exchanges have some kind of filters where they can easily find such transactions suspicious but surely there might be many centralized exchanges that don't really care much about XMR coming in and BTC going out because they will be earning their revenue by the fees and they don't care much about such transactions or they might intentionally allow such transactions.
It is crucial to acknowledge that even though some centralized exchanges might use heuristic patterns to identify and block transactions they deem suspicious, we proactively ensure that this does not happen. We carefully select exchanges that do not employ such filtering based on specific patterns of incoming and outgoing transactions (for example, only XMR coming in and BTC going out). By doing so, we minimize the risk of our transactions being flagged as suspicious, thus ensuring a smoother and safer conversion process for our users from XMR to BTC.
After exchanging your BTC for XMR, we direct the funds through an intermediary wallet. This strategy ensures that the exchanges involved in the BTC to XMR and XMR back to BTC transactions remain unaware of this intermediary wallet, making it difficult for them to link any transaction details associated with this intermediary. Furthermore, due to Monero's built-in privacy features, exchanges are inherently unable to determine the source address of a Monero transaction. Our approach of using an intermediary wallet bolsters this privacy, offering an extra layer of security and anonymity in the transaction process.Can you tell us what sources are you using to get monero coins that you are using for Advanced mixing service?
After exchanging your BTC for XMR, we direct the funds through an intermediary wallet. This strategy ensures that the exchanges involved in the BTC to XMR and XMR back to BTC transactions remain unaware of this intermediary wallet, making it difficult for them to link any transaction details associated with this intermediary. Furthermore, due to Monero's built-in privacy features, exchanges are inherently unable to determine the source address of a Monero transaction. Our approach of using an intermediary wallet bolsters this privacy, offering an extra layer of security and anonymity in the transaction process.Can you tell us what sources are you using to get monero coins that you are using for Advanced mixing service?
Binance and few other bigger centralized exchanges have delisted monero and it is getting harder to get coins when you need them fast.
I wonder what happens if you don't have any XMR and someone wants to use advanced mixing option.
@dkbit98 If I'm not wrong then Monero won't be delisted from all exchanges since it's a good and valuable coin which provides 100% as compare to other coins. I know some exchanges are taking action against it because of the stress that centralized institutions give them.Can you tell us what sources are you using to get monero coins that you are using for Advanced mixing service?
Binance and few other bigger centralized exchanges have delisted monero and it is getting harder to get coins when you need them fast.
I wonder what happens if you don't have any XMR and someone wants to use advanced mixing option.
Hello, we can't tell you exactly what service we're using as we feel it may affect the anonymity of our customers but all we can tell you is that we're using instant exchanges.
Hello, we can't tell you exactly what service we're using as we feel it may affect the anonymity of our customers but all we can tell you is that we're using instant exchanges.OK, good to know.
Hello, we can't tell you exactly what service we're using as we feel it may affect the anonymity of our customers but all we can tell you is that we're using instant exchanges.OK, good to know.
So that basically means that you down own any larger amount of monero coins, and you need to buy them when you have demand for mixing.
There are not many instant exchanges and I have a good idea what exactly you are using ;)
We have established a Monero reserve to facilitate faster transactions and lower costs on our end. This reserve is currently effective for small amounts, as it is still in the "test" phase. Our goal is to create a substantial reserve to expedite exchanges. With such a reserve, we would only need to convert Monero into Bitcoin for the user, significantly enhancing anonymity and processing speed.This could be bad as governments could look for services that supply Monero and then they could make large, frequent transactions and monitor who is requesting Monero to determine more information about you.
One thing I noticed was that they kept using the same deposit address no matter how many times you restarted the procedure from the beginning; we also saw this behaviour on multiple phishing links we reported for Unijoin back then in Bitcointalk.org.Anyone can create phishing links and try to make its name look like the service, design something similar to the service and promote it so that it appears first in the search engine. you must click on the link through the signatures under ALTT users or at least bookmark the ANN page.
@mixero.io & @AB de Royse777, I stumbled across a site today - I’ve gone through the app to see if it’s mixero’s mirror link but I couldn’t find any information about it.
The site: https(:)//mixera(.)io/
One thing I noticed was that they kept using the same deposit address no matter how many times you restarted the procedure from the beginning; we also saw this behaviour on multiple phishing links we reported for Unijoin back then in Bitcointalk.org.
I simply wanted to let you know in case it does not belong to you, so that proper action may be taken to avoid anyone from losing money to it.
It would be interesting and positive for the community if you opened a thread about this problem in the subforum Reputation, scams and phishing (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?board=84.0/). That way more users could be alert about these types of threats.
@mixero.io & @AB de Royse777, I stumbled across a site today - I’ve gone through the app to see if it’s mixero’s mirror link but I couldn’t find any information about it.
The site: https(:)//mixera(.)io/
One thing I noticed was that they kept using the same deposit address no matter how many times you restarted the procedure from the beginning; we also saw this behaviour on multiple phishing links we reported for Unijoin back then in Bitcointalk.org.
I simply wanted to let you know in case it does not belong to you, so that proper action may be taken to avoid anyone from losing money to it.
Hello this site is indeed a phishing/scam (mixera.io) it seems that several customers have already fallen into the trap, we will report this site. Stay away from this service and double check the domain name you are visiting.
I actually can’t do that right now since I haven’t gotten any confirmation from mixero.io if the site belongs to them or not.
If we should get a negative response and the go ahead, then we can report the site for it to be taken down by the registrar for being a phishing site, but for now we wait for mixero’s response.
Hello everyone, it seems that another domain has appeared (mlxero.io). This domain is a scam/copy of our website so please be careful, they paid a Google ad for it and their domain appears first with the keyword "mixero".Cheap old trick, they are using letter L instead of letter i.
Hello everyone, it seems that another domain has appeared (mlxero.io). This domain is a scam/copy of our website so please be careful, they paid a Google ad for it and their domain appears first with the keyword "mixero".
The domain in question has already been reported.
Dear Mixero,
I would love to user your service, however I have to admit that I find your Letter of Guarantee (LoG) completely senseless. In the signed message of your LoG you do NOT mention the destination BTC address. Therefore in case of a dispute or potential exit ripp, nobody can use the LoG prove that no funds were sent to the destination address.
What's even worse, your "official" BTC address which you use to sign your LoG, is not even findabel on Google: 1HsM2JbyKnqwcYvEm1kLMNwJtqb6uxSczd So it seems, that this wallet is not even posted on your websit or in this thread. You should replace this standard wallet with a Vanity Address and post it on your website footer and in this thread (just like CryptoMixer: 1CrypMixXWtTjYGCM5ZJmyQYP1Y39P7aLM and Tumbler: 1TUMBLRXHDjFZacmFLbuDn2Rw1rcPgacR)
Could you please improve your LoG and make it look like the LoG of for example CryptoMixer or Tumbler? Both, CryptoMixer and Tumbler, provide Letter of Guarantee, which contain all required information.
What do you think about these two suggested improvements? Without both your service soes not look trustworthy to me.
Regards
Royaly
P.S. For reference I will copy your LoG and more usefull LoG examples of the above mentioned sites:
=== Mixero's senseless Letter of Guarantee ===
This message has been signed with our signature 1HsM2JbyKnqwcYvEm1kLMNwJtqb6uxSczd
-----START DATE-----
Tue, 05 Mar 2024 20:40:09 +0300
-----END DATE-----
-----START LETTER OF GUARANTEE-----
Here is your letter of guarantee. Keep it carefully as it represents the unique proof of your transaction. Mixero confirms that the following address: bc1qnp22a90dqkqngpvg372vrw3kjn4p0udne56r2v has been generated in order to receive your funds at the destination address indicated.
-----END LETTER OF GUARANTEE-----
-----START SIGNATURE-----
IH5A+sTarI3mPbjwjZWIlM2fIok9sjMQys3pT4sX3ZvIXv8g4T/+nguHUwu/8upkq7GcmPpEdXlBvgskUDtU+go=
-----END SIGNATURE-----
-----START ADDRESS FOR SENDING FUNDS-----
bc1qnp22a90dqkqngpvg372vrw3kjn4p0udne56r2v
-----END ADDRESS FOR SENDING FUNDS-----
You need to send the letter of guarantee in case of problem within 24 hours of your payment. Please note that failure to do so will render the letter obsolete and unusable in accordance with our Confidentiality of Data.
== Example 1 how Letter of Guarantee should look like - Domain-Ending removed ==
-----START SIGNING BITCOIN ADDRESS-----
1CrypMixXWtTjYGCM5ZJmyQYP1Y39P7aLM
-----END SIGNING BITCOIN ADDRESS-----
-----START LETTER OF GUARANTEE-----
We hereby confirm that CRYPTOMIXER has generated the address bc1qm6vhlfsuz20xy6qp8j7l25fzcjktqv2d8c0afk in order to transfer incoming amount (minus fee) to the following addresses: 100% to bc1qnp22a90dqkqngpvg372vrw3kjn4p0udne56r2v after 0 minutes. This service will be only available for all bitcoins received from 2024 March 5, 17:59:45 UTC to 2024 March 6, 17:59:45 UTC with minimum amount of 0.001 BTC per single transaction and maximum amount of 30.57 BTC total. Our fee is 0.8492% + 0.0005 BTC for every target address. This letter is digitally signed by our main account: 1CrypMixXWtTjYGCM5ZJmyQYP1Y39P7aLM. Stay protected and thank you for using our service.
-----END LETTER OF GUARANTEE-----
-----START DIGITAL SIGNATURE-----
Gx0F05udl9QqqGPD99SeXleo5x1fmSky2S3xlPiApUniKpUtjo39eXevLPlsdw0aa87pTCqThIUkfh1kYd06m2g=
-----END DIGITAL SIGNATURE-----
== Example 2 how Letter of Guarantee should look like - Domain-Ending removed ==
-----START SIGNING BITCOIN ADDRESS-----
1TUMBLRXHDjFZacmFLbuDn2Rw1rcPgacR
-----END SIGNING BITCOIN ADDRESS-----
-----START LETTER OF GUARANTEE-----
We hereby confirm that Tumbler has generated the address bc1q4yzn3q348750pdfd4kprj2ktj9xp5qduw65mru in order to transfer incoming amount (minus fee) to the following addresses: 100% to bc1qnp22a90dqkqngpvg372vrw3kjn4p0udne56r2v after 349 min. This service will be only available for all bitcoins received from 2024 March 05, 17:59:24 UTC to 2024 March 06, 17:59:24 UTC with minimum amount of 0.001 BTC per single transaction and maximum amount of 512.6771 BTC total. Our fee is 1.27% + 0.0004 BTC for every target address. This letter is digitally signed by our main account: 1TUMBLRXHDjFZacmFLbuDn2Rw1rcPgacR. Order: tumbler /order#3NOGX7P4-58BJKY. Stay protected and thank you for using our service.
-----END LETTER OF GUARANTEE-----
-----START DIGITAL SIGNATURE-----
HDCkem/owJmtERfDX0VTptnEIsoEoC/WX92v7Ir7lPkISSZaI4mML+v99uH9rhNEPCfsmx9OC2mnMO1Aux4beEI=
-----END DIGITAL SIGNATURE-----
== Example 2 how Letter of Guarantee should look like - Domain-Ending removed ==
-----START SIGNING BITCOIN ADDRESS-----
1TUMBLRXHDjFZacmFLbuDn2Rw1rcPgacR
-----END SIGNING BITCOIN ADDRESS-----
-----START LETTER OF GUARANTEE-----
We hereby confirm that Tumbler has generated the address bc1q4yzn3q348750pdfd4kprj2ktj9xp5qduw65mru in order to transfer incoming amount (minus fee) to the following addresses: 100% to bc1qnp22a90dqkqngpvg372vrw3kjn4p0udne56r2v after 349 min. This service will be only available for all bitcoins received from 2024 March 05, 17:59:24 UTC to 2024 March 06, 17:59:24 UTC with minimum amount of 0.001 BTC per single transaction and maximum amount of 512.6771 BTC total. Our fee is 1.27% + 0.0004 BTC for every target address. This letter is digitally signed by our main account: 1TUMBLRXHDjFZacmFLbuDn2Rw1rcPgacR. Order: tumbler /order#3NOGX7P4-58BJKY. Stay protected and thank you for using our service.
-----END LETTER OF GUARANTEE-----
-----START DIGITAL SIGNATURE-----
HDCkem/owJmtERfDX0VTptnEIsoEoC/WX92v7Ir7lPkISSZaI4mML+v99uH9rhNEPCfsmx9OC2mnMO1Aux4beEI=
-----END DIGITAL SIGNATURE-----
Hello, we've added more information to our letter of guarantee, and we've also added our signature address in the footer.
== Example 2 how Letter of Guarantee should look like - Domain-Ending removed ==
-----START SIGNING BITCOIN ADDRESS-----
1TUMBLRXHDjFZacmFLbuDn2Rw1rcPgacR
-----END SIGNING BITCOIN ADDRESS-----
-----START LETTER OF GUARANTEE-----
We hereby confirm that Tumbler has generated the address bc1q4yzn3q348750pdfd4kprj2ktj9xp5qduw65mru in order to transfer incoming amount (minus fee) to the following addresses: 100% to bc1qnp22a90dqkqngpvg372vrw3kjn4p0udne56r2v after 349 min. This service will be only available for all bitcoins received from 2024 March 05, 17:59:24 UTC to 2024 March 06, 17:59:24 UTC with minimum amount of 0.001 BTC per single transaction and maximum amount of 512.6771 BTC total. Our fee is 1.27% + 0.0004 BTC for every target address. This letter is digitally signed by our main account: 1TUMBLRXHDjFZacmFLbuDn2Rw1rcPgacR. Order: tumbler /order#3NOGX7P4-58BJKY. Stay protected and thank you for using our service.
-----END LETTER OF GUARANTEE-----
-----START DIGITAL SIGNATURE-----
HDCkem/owJmtERfDX0VTptnEIsoEoC/WX92v7Ir7lPkISSZaI4mML+v99uH9rhNEPCfsmx9OC2mnMO1Aux4beEI=
-----END DIGITAL SIGNATURE-----
Hello, we've added more information to our letter of guarantee, and we've also added our signature address in the footer.
OK, it is clear that even if the user closes the order page, the mixing process will continue. But is there a possibility for the user to find an active order again? For example, Tumbler leaves a link in its letter of guarantee, so it is possible to check it later.
I saw that the deposit address is valid for 24 hours. Isn't that too short a deadline and what happens to deposits after that time?
With the high volatility of fees lately, it is very easy for a transaction to get stuck.
Concerning a page to consult the status of your transaction, we are currently working on it and it should be available soon.
You can now check the status of your transaction using your Order ID on our /status page. The Order ID is visible on the invoice page as well as in the letter of guarantee.
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Dear Mixero,
I am happy to see that you added the security relevant features I suggested a couple weeks ago. That shows that you are taking our feedback seriously. Thumbs up!
I already tested your mixing service with a small amount BTC and it worked like a charm.
However there is one last feature missing, that prevents me from regularly using your service instead of the good old CryptoMixer: Your Delay-Feature is not working properly when using two destination wallets. If using two destination wallets, there must also be two different Delay-Settings (just look at CryptoMixer's website, they have implentend this feature very well so that the user can specifiy differente delay durations).
Using blockchain analysis, third parties are able to track down mixing transactions made through Mixero, because even when using two different destination wallets, your payouts will be at the same time! However, being able to specify two different destination wallets AND two different delay durations makes it impossible for blockchain analysis of third parties to track down transactions mixed through Mixero!
Can you please make it possible to specify two different delay durations when using two different destination wallets?
Regards
Royaly
Hello, yes this feature is planned for Mixero we will develop this as soon as possible. We will publish a message when this function is implemented.Hey Mixero as you are active representative in this forum, I have few questions for you.
Hello, yes this feature is planned for Mixero we will develop this as soon as possible. We will publish a message when this function is implemented.Hey Mixero as you are active representative in this forum, I have few questions for you.
In light of recent vanishing of your several mixer competitors, are you doing something to improve security and protection of your services?
And do you plan to continue business as usual or you are going to make some changes in future?
Hi, we have been continuously strengthening our platform's security and anonymity protection measures over the past few months. Enhanced encryption, obfuscation techniques, and strong operational security practices have been put in place to protect our users.It is really good to know that you are present here.
Hi, we have been continuously strengthening our platform's security and anonymity protection measures over the past few months. Enhanced encryption, obfuscation techniques, and strong operational security practices have been put in place to protect our users.It is really good to know that you are present here.
I hope that you, who are behind mixero.io, have been sufficiently protected, it seems that in the last few days, it is a big risk to talk about the whole thing.
If there is a big risk to even talk about mixers themselves, then we have a word for that in the English dictionary: censorship. Even Bitcointalk did not go so far as to ban public speech about mixers outright,
Since I have not seen any country try to sanction people for talking about mixers (not even authoritarian states like Russia), I am led to the conclusion that such censorship is non-existent.
For now at least.
Even Bitcointalk did not go so far as to ban public speech about mixers outrightIt would be crazy if they did that for mixers or for anything else, and if something like that ever happens people will just abandon their profiles gradually.
Since I have not seen any country try to sanction people for talking about mixers (not even authoritarian states like Russia), I am led to the conclusion that such censorship is non-existent.They are sanctioning talk about other subjects, so there is obviously censorship in different form and they can alwaas expand it.
Censorship itself does not prevent people from talking about something or discussing how a service works, but rather it prevents them from using it freely.What?! :o
Censorship is the suppression of speech, public communication, or other information.
What?! :o
Do you even understand what censorship even means?
You literally are not allowed to talk about specific subject at all.QuoteCensorship is the suppression of speech, public communication, or other information.
But I think we are getting a little further away from the discussion in this thread.Yap, let's stay on-topic here.
I would like to ask the Mixero devs, or maybe this is a suggestion. By choosing the advanced mixing process, and receiving Ethereum, it would be really good to have a more accurate calculator.I didn’t get your point. There is already a Calculator, and when you use the advanced option, you get Bitcoin (deposit Bitcoin) or Ethereum (deposit Ethereum), but the mixing method is the Monero bridge instead of Coinjoin.
In the end, the user gets Ethereum, so the calculator should show such a result. However, it is a kind of swap, rather than mixing. Or at least, showing the BTC/ETH rate which is used in the process.
I didn’t get your point. There is already a Calculator, and when you use the advanced option, you get Bitcoin (deposit Bitcoin) or Ethereum (deposit Ethereum), but the mixing method is the Monero bridge instead of Coinjoin.
I think that it should be stated somewhere what ratio BTC -> ETH will be calculated during the exchange.
It is different for most exchanges, here is the clearest example on Bestchange monitoring. Right now the range is from 17 ETH = 1BTC to 18.9ETH = 1BTC. (https://www.bestchange.com/bitcoin-to-ethereum.html)
Providing this information should not be complicated, and it would increase the level of transparency.
mixero would just use their own rate for converting.
We're currently implementing a partner system where we share 30% of the revenue generated by your referrals, offering you a lucrative opportunity to earn. This referral program is expected to be available by the end of the month, so stay tuned!
We're currently implementing a partner system where we share 30% of the revenue generated by your referrals, offering you a lucrative opportunity to earn. This referral program is expected to be available by the end of the month, so stay tuned!
April is over, May is coming to an end, what is the status of this upgrade?
We're currently implementing a partner system where we share 30% of the revenue generated by your referrals, offering you a lucrative opportunity to earn. This referral program is expected to be available by the end of the month, so stay tuned!
April is over, May is coming to an end, what is the status of this upgrade?
We're currently implementing a partner system where we share 30% of the revenue generated by your referrals, offering you a lucrative opportunity to earn. This referral program is expected to be available by the end of the month, so stay tuned!
April is over, May is coming to an end, what is the status of this upgrade?
^-- What he said
I had no idea that Mixero was planning to implement a referral program, but at least they are trying and keep up the communication here on the forum. That at least gives me reassurances that they are still working on their platform.
I always say that it's important to have many mixers competing against each other so that the mixing industry survives.
Maybe you can send a message by forwarding the question to their email address ([email protected]) if you still haven't received a response from the Mixero.io team on the Altcoinstalks forum.
Hello, our referral system is still in the test phase. We've been delayed in our development, which explains why it's not yet available.
Maybe you can send a message by forwarding the question to their email address ([email protected]) if you still haven't received a response from the Mixero.io team on the Altcoinstalks forum.
I prefer to see the answer publicly on the forum, at least the mixer is officially present here. Especially if it is not particularly urgent. And it seems I was right, after all, I got a straight answer ;)
thanks mixero for the infoHello, our referral system is still in the test phase. We've been delayed in our development, which explains why it's not yet available.
Hello, our referral system is still in the test phase. We've been delayed in our development, which explains why it's not yet available.You provide API. My understanding with this API anyone can create their own mixer and use your mixing algorithm, your assets just like Jambler. What difference your referral program will have other than API require programming skills and the referral program will require a unique link to earn?
used Mixero for the first time, mixed some BTC. Everything went smoothly
Can you check the privacy score on any service, for example, blockchair.com
I know it's not particularly authoritative, but it would raise an alarm if the risk is high
for example
(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/06/05/cCs79.png)
From which link of Blockchair.com you can check it? I am using Mixero from long time and haven't had any issue with the received coins when I needed to exchange it in an exchange.used Mixero for the first time, mixed some BTC. Everything went smoothly
Can you check the privacy score on any service, for example, blockchair.com
I know it's not particularly authoritative, but it would raise an alarm if the risk is high
for example
(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/06/05/cCs79.png)
From which link of Blockchair.com you can check it? I am using Mixero from long time and haven't had any issue with the received coins when I needed to exchange it in an exchange.used Mixero for the first time, mixed some BTC. Everything went smoothly
Can you check the privacy score on any service, for example, blockchair.com
I know it's not particularly authoritative, but it would raise an alarm if the risk is high
for example
(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/06/05/cCs79.png)
Can you check the privacy score on any service, for example, blockchair.comI don't like this privacy score and I try to avoid any service that uses them but this is what I got.
Are there any plans to use more bridges? Instead of the xmr bridge, you can use litecoin MimbleWimble or the cheaper CoinJoin via BitcoinCash CashFusion.We are still waiting for an update on the affiliate/partner program integration
Yesterday I couldn't access mixero (it was running Tor) but everything is working now.Mixero has one of the fastest clearnet sites in the mixer category. I'm not sure if the reason is because they use a DDoS guard service instead of Cloudflare.
Dear Mixero,
I have not received any funds yet, but they have over 10 BTC Confirms at your side.
I have sent an email and as you state I only have 24h I urgently ask you to reply and solve this matter.
Tried to send a PM with my used email Adress from where I sent my letter. But it seems like I cannot send PM yet.
This comment is proof I was well before the 24h mark.
Kind regards,
A very loyal client
Dear Mixero,
I have not received any funds yet, but they have over 10 BTC Confirms at your side.
I have sent an email and as you state I only have 24h I urgently ask you to reply and solve this matter.
That is why here is a reminder for the new free raffle in the 50-week celebration of Mixero sig. campaignThe next one is live now!
Mixero Signature Campaign 50 week celebration round 1 / 5, WIN $100 (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=322719.0;topicseen)
Fees and usage:Can you define the fee structure more clearly, or does the existing calculator not provide precise information?
- Our fees are set at 0.5% of the transaction amount + standard mining fees.
Fees and usage:Can you define the fee structure more clearly, or does the existing calculator not provide precise information?
- Our fees are set at 0.5% of the transaction amount + standard mining fees.
It seems that I have to pay extra for the amount of 0.01 ???
(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/07/31/5SRbd.png)
Is there an additional network fee for each hop?
There seems to be a problem with the calculator we will fix the problem ASAP, fees are set at 0.5% + miners fees for each hops.Yes, it looks different. It is good to see the efficiency.
Edit: The calculator problem has been solved.
miners fees for each hops.The mining fee depends on the network status, not the fixed network fee that mixers have per address, right?
There seems to be a problem with the calculator we will fix the problem ASAP, fees are set at 0.5% + miners fees for each hops.Yes, it looks different. It is good to see the efficiency.
Edit: The calculator problem has been solved.Quoteminers fees for each hops.The mining fee depends on the network status, not the fixed network fee that mixers have per address, right?
I have information from earlier that the fee structure on Mixero is: Service fees 0.7%-4.7% + Network fee (per address): 0.0003BTC (now also per hop)
Is this correct and also valid for the new ricochet option?
Ricochet fees are deducted only once (0.5%) and there are no additional charges. To sum up, there are no fees between each jump, with the exception of mining fees.I am not familiar with this Ricochet thing. There are no explanation on the site too. Is this a new mixing method? What is this Hops too which is related to Ricochet?
Ricochet fees are deducted only once (0.5%) and there are no additional charges. To sum up, there are no fees between each jump, with the exception of mining fees.I am not familiar with this Ricochet thing. There are no explanation on the site too. Is this a new mixing method? What is this Hops too which is related to Ricochet?
Ricochet fees are deducted only once (0.5%) and there are no additional charges. To sum up, there are no fees between each jump, with the exception of mining fees.
We're going to add the calculator function to the order page too. If you use the 0 confirmations option, the funds won't wait for any specific confirmation before moving on to the next address. Funds with this option usually arrive within 5-10 minutes with the 5 hops option.Exciting development at least the calculator function will help solve alot of maths in the process of inputting the amount of bitcoin the user intended to mix, what I need clarity on is that, are you guys going to develop the calculator in the way that both amount of input and the fees intended for the mixing and the outcome that is the expected total amount to return after the mixing process have been completed, this will help a whole lot to ease the stress and give your mixer users insight of what to expect.
If you use the 0 confirmations option, the funds won't wait for any specific confirmation before moving on to the next address. Funds with this option usually arrive within 5-10 minutes with the 5 hops option.Wouldn't this be easier to spot since the transaction pattern would be clearer since the last transaction will not be confirmed until its parent does which means that all transactions may be confirmed in the same block (if the fees are high) or the user may wait longer.
If you use the 0 confirmations option, the funds won't wait for any specific confirmation before moving on to the next address. Funds with this option usually arrive within 5-10 minutes with the 5 hops option.Wouldn't this be easier to spot since the transaction pattern would be clearer since the last transaction will not be confirmed until its parent does which means that all transactions may be confirmed in the same block (if the fees are high) or the user may wait longer.
However, using 0 confirmations has the advantage of being faster (5-10 minutes for 5 hops as mentioned). So it's a trade-off between speed and discretion. For maximum anonymity, it's preferable to opt for at least one confirmation per hop, even if this extends the process.
please add more bridges (LTC Or BCH) they will be a useful solutions if there is not enough Monero stock.There is no point of adding Litecoin unless they add support for mweb addresses that have implemented mimble wimble.
Another problem is that not many wallets are supporting mweb addresses.Perhaps the best explanation for this was given by exch (on Btt) exchange.
This was planned all time along and we will definitely do once Litecoin Core release fixes for some bugs related to loss of funds when transferred to MWEB addresses. There are some unaddressed issues that the core devs ignore for now and knowing the nature of Loshan who wouldn't mind losing 1000 LTC to some random bug we would prefer to wait for next releases. Core Litecoin developers take the development of Litecoin a bit unseriously lately like if it's some testnet-only network.
Ricochet transactions were invented by Samourai Wallet some time ago and it's basically when you add a lot of "decoy transactions" at the beginning and at the end of the real transaction to confuse chain analysis into thinking that they are all somehow related until eventually the graph becomes too big to fit into memory.Thank you, I was able to do some study. I was not aware about this new development, I think I will need to check the feature very soon.
I imagine that hops are related to the number of such fake transactions.
The samourai docs website still works (without HTTPS) and you can read it here: https://docs.samourai.io/en/wallet/features/ricochet
Edit: The calculator problem has been solved.Update:
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CALCUALTOR has not yet been added.
At mixero, if I play with setting fee settings, I could get only slow/fast/fastest options, but in time equivalent, what is the real difference between them (if delay is set to Default). So I wonder what time to wait it is considered to be ok, and when it will be a moment to get curious of everything is going wrong. Long story short, if I send and got 1 confirmation at 12:00, every setting is left without changing, when will I get my mixer crypto?Different times when mixing, among other things, also serve to raise the level of anonymity. So, for example, if your funds arrived at the deposit address exactly after 60 minutes, reduced by exactly 5%, it would be almost obvious that it was mixing.
I don't know if it's just a momentary issue, but when I entered the thread, I realized that some images are unavailable with imgbbEverything is fine by my side.
No calculator after starting invoice_ricochet, it will be useful to calculate fees before depositing.-snip-
CALCUALTOR has not yet been added.
Is this what you mean?
At mixero, if I play with setting fee settings, I could get only slow/fast/fastest options, but in time equivalent, what is the real difference between them (if delay is set to Default). So I wonder what time to wait it is considered to be ok, and when it will be a moment to get curious of everything is going wrong. Long story short, if I send and got 1 confirmation at 12:00, every setting is left without changing, when will I get my mixer crypto?Different times when mixing, among other things, also serve to raise the level of anonymity. So, for example, if your funds arrived at the deposit address exactly after 60 minutes, reduced by exactly 5%, it would be almost obvious that it was mixing.
That's why random mixing time and random mixer fee are practised the most.
But is it correct to say that funds should return in average 24h (no matter what is the amount and selected fees), but if I wait more than a day it is time to contact support? With mixero it went smooth, sent test amount, mixed amount arrived "when arrived", I did not sit with a stopwatch, nor wasnt refreshing balance all the time. It wasnt a huge amount so I did not expected to have a heart attack it takes long or did not arrive at all. But I was more curious why different review and different mixer claim so random time. Like waiting for a $100 to be mixed is ok.
... Long story short, if I send and got 1 confirmation at 12:00, every setting is left without changing, when will I get my mixer crypto?
...Everything is fine by my side.
Anyway, I would not be surprised if imgbb also put Altcoinstalks as an undesirable location, as they did with Btt. It's good that talkimg works correctly, I hope the owner will not ban its use on this forum.
But is it correct to say that funds should return in average 24h (no matter what is the amount and selected fees), but if I wait more than a day it is time to contact support? With mixero it went smooth, sent test amount, mixed amount arrived "when arrived", I did not sit with a stopwatch, nor wasnt refreshing balance all the time. It wasnt a huge amount so I did not expected to have a heart attack it takes long or did not arrive at all. But I was more curious why different review and different mixer claim so random time. Like waiting for a $100 to be mixed is ok.On their delay scale, the maximum set time is 168h. If you chose the "default" option, then I guess everything between 0-168h is in accordance with their TOS.
I don't know if it's just a momentary issue, but when I entered the thread, I realized that some images are unavailable with imgbbIt looks fine to me. Perhaps there were something wrong on ibb server when you were trying to load the page.
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/09/04/9b5t8.png) (https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/09/04/9b4XZ.png)
I don't know if it's just a momentary issue, but when I entered the thread, I realized that some images are unavailable with imgbb
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/09/04/9b5t8.png) (https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/09/04/9b4XZ.png)
Some image links from imgbb are displayed usually, and some are not (on browsers other than Tor). An example is the following Mixero Avatar:The avatar is located on the same hosting as the forum, it does not go through a third external service. I would say that there is something on your side.
Although everything loads normally for me, ibb made some restrictions according to the Btt forum, so I wouldn't be surprised if a similar condition applies to Altt as well.I haven't faced any such issues of not getting an avatar displayed or something similar but I would say that Imgbb is the worst option one chooses for platforms that support privacy and are somehow related to cryptocurrencies.
Some image links from imgbb are displayed usually, and some are not (on browsers other than Tor). An example is the following Mixero Avatar:The avatar is located on the same hosting as the forum, it does not go through a third external service. I would say that there is something on your side.
Although everything loads normally for me, ibb made some restrictions according to the Btt forum, so I wouldn't be surprised if a similar condition applies to Altt as well.
As for Mixer, as well as all other services presented here, which have their own website, it is suggested that they use images hosted on their website. In that way, they will depend on themselves
I need to find out what options hugeblack uses to set the avatar on his account. I assume that he used the "Specify avatar by URL" option.You're right, I completely forgot about these options. This may be the case
In this case, the Avatar location used by the user (who uses the 'Specify avatar by URL' option) may be different from the forum hosting location. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Generally speaking, a website that pulls images from other sites could be blocked from doing so by the hosting (like cPanel) or by a firewall like Cloudflare. I know a lot of sites that turn on this feature to save bandwidth.In this case, Altcoinstalks would take images from Mixero.io hosting. So the Altt setting would be responsible for that, which is obviously good because all images are displayed without problems and this is more of an accidental case.
After reading some posts I was checking with different browsers. With internet explore, brave I see the images are not loading. But in chrome, firefox it's working. Even with a force clearing cache also not showing the images.
It looks like imgbb.com + browser issue.
I wouldn't use Internet Explorer for anything nowadays. It's like using a Chrome or Firefox version from 8 years ago...Is the original Internet Explorer even functional today? I remember trying to revive some too-old computers, but I had a lot of complications with connecting IE online.
I wouldn't use Internet Explorer for anything nowadays. It's like using a Chrome or Firefox version from 8 years ago...Is the original Internet Explorer even functional today? I remember trying to revive some too-old computers, but I had a lot of complications with connecting IE online.
As far as I know, Microsoft Edge is a replacement for IE.
Any update on the referral program? ;DI am also interested in this
Any update on the referral program? ;DI am also interested in this
It is strange to me that there is no more interest in participating in this free Mixero campaign. $100 is a decent amount, and the contest itself is not too demanding. I must mention philipma1957, I don't see his name, but I know that he is quite active in that section, plus he has a privileged status due to his participation in the signature campaign :D
Mixero Signature Campaign 50 week celebration round 5 / 5, WIN $100 (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=324370.0)
It is strange to me that there is no more interest in participating in this free Mixero campaign. $100 is a decent amount, and the contest itself is not too demanding. I must mention philipma1957, I don't see his name, but I know that he is quite active in that section, plus he has a privileged status due to his participation in the signature campaign :Dalthough the number of views for each topic is less ,it is good that the mixer continues with these free distributions, Perhaps thinking of more ideas, such as reducing the prize amount in exchange for increasing the number of winners, new challenges, or other ideas will help increase interest in it.
Any update on the referral program? ;DI am also interested in this
It is strange to me that there is no more interest in participating in this free Mixero campaign. $100 is a decent amount, and the contest itself is not too demanding. I must mention philipma1957, I don't see his name, but I know that he is quite active in that section, plus he has a privileged status due to his participation in the signature campaign :D
Mixero Signature Campaign 50 week celebration round 5 / 5, WIN $100 (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=324370.0)
Any update on the referral program? ;DI am also interested in this
It is strange to me that there is no more interest in participating in this free Mixero campaign. $100 is a decent amount, and the contest itself is not too demanding. I must mention philipma1957, I don't see his name, but I know that he is quite active in that section, plus he has a privileged status due to his participation in the signature campaign :D
Mixero Signature Campaign 50 week celebration round 5 / 5, WIN $100 (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=324370.0)
Well, the mixero.io domain is recognized as a phishing site by Metamask. Pretty weird.I have MetaMask installed and I can access Mixero normally. Not sure if I need to enable some kind of anti-phishing protection to have this screen on certain websites or if it's just not on the list on my end.
Can someone else confirm or is it just from my side?
https://talkimg.com/images/2024/10/24/KPOH5.png
I have MetaMask installed and I can access Mixero normally. Not sure if I need to enable some kind of anti-phishing protection to have this screen on certain websites or if it's just not on the list on my end.We were talking about mixero.io site, right?
Well, the mixero.io domain is recognized as a phishing site by Metamask. Pretty weird.
Can someone else confirm or is it just from my side?
Nevermind, just got the warning. They say you can create a github issue to remove a wrongly accused
Well, the mixero.io domain is recognized as a phishing site by Metamask. Pretty weird.
Can someone else confirm or is it just from my side?
Probably a false report happened and they just accepted it, but can't find any public issue created about it.
Well, the mixero.io domain is recognized as a phishing site by Metamask. Pretty weird.
Can someone else confirm or is it just from my side?
(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/10/24/KPOH5.png)
Hey everyone!Very bad situation. It almost seems like blackmail. How to prove legitimacy at all?
We're facing an issue with our blocklist removal request. Even though we had a successful whitelist approval last year (previous approval), our new request (current request) seems to have been rejected despite providing all requested legitimacy proofs.
We strongly believe this is a false positive case, likely resulting from someone reporting us without valid reasons. This is particularly frustrating considering we were previously whitelisted and have maintained the same legitimate practices.
We're quite confused by this situation, especially considering our previous successful whitelist. If anyone has experienced something similar or has suggestions on how to handle this kind of false positive rejection, we'd really appreciate your insights!
Links:
Previous approved request: https://github.com/MetaMask/eth-phishing-detect/issues/10493
Current request: https://github.com/MetaMask/eth-phishing-detect/issues/91487
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We strongly believe this is a false positive case, likely resulting from someone reporting us without valid reasons. This is particularly frustrating considering we were previously whitelisted and have maintained the same legitimate practices.
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...It seems that everything is back to normal. I don't see any warnings or restrictions when accessing the mixero.io site.
...It seems that everything is back to normal. I don't see any warnings or restrictions when accessing the mixero.io site.
Perhaps you could present here a conclusion about this incident, it would be good to know for some future cases.
Good news: our domain has been whitelisted following an investigation by a metamask phishing-detect github contributor. You should no longer see the warning message.Great news, have you managed to talk with them about this? I saw some people created a github issue through the link I posted before but looks like they haven't been answered (at least not publicly). I remember another case where a mixer was also wrongly blacklisted by MetaMask, so I'm curious about the entire proccess.
Great news, have you managed to talk with them about this? I saw some people created a github issue through the link I posted before but looks like they haven't been answered (at least not publicly). I remember another case where a mixer was also wrongly blacklisted by MetaMask, so I'm curious about the entire proccess.Mixero has the option to mix Ethereum, but as far as I know, it never requires a connection to Metamask or any wallet.
- Is it using Wallet Connect so that other ETH wallets can connect to it, or does only Metamask work?As far as I've noticed, it doesn't ask for Metamask at all, it's like any Bitcoin mixer, just copy/paste the ETH address. The user himself sends coins from any wallet.
So it appears that Ethereum mixing is now possible (I don't think this feature was available before if I recall correctly), so I have a few questions about it:As I've checked, Mixero supports mixing BTC and ETH in Advanced mode, not BRC-20 or ERC-20 tokens. I hope users won't misunderstand and send incompatible tokens to the designated address provided by Mixero.
- Does this only work for Ethereum or for other tokens that run on Ethereum's network (ERC-20) e.g. can you mix USDT-ERC20? <-- I know this particular coin is pointless given Tether's arbitrary blacklisting but it would still be good to know.
- Is it using Wallet Connect so that other ETH wallets can connect to it, or does only Metamask work?
As I've checked, Mixero supports mixing BTC and ETH in Advanced mode, not BRC-20 or ERC-20 tokens. I hope users won't misunderstand and send incompatible tokens to the designated address provided by Mixero.Who anyone would mix BRC20 or ERC20 tokens and for what purpose? What would be the purpose of that and in what way could a meme be mixed in exchange for what?
As I've checked, Mixero supports mixing BTC and ETH in Advanced mode, not BRC-20 or ERC-20 tokens. I hope users won't misunderstand and send incompatible tokens to the designated address provided by Mixero.
(https://i.imgur.com/TEDqzyc.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/oSvhwZH.png)
-snip-Who anyone would mix BRC20 or ERC20 tokens and for what purpose? What would be the purpose of that and in what way could a meme be mixed in exchange for what?
There is no need to say anything about BRC, but USDT is also centralized and in complete control of Tether, what would be achieved here by mixing. :(
However, to prevent misunderstandings, especially for novice users, a footnote may also need to be included in the destination or deposit address section, as in the following example:Yeah, it would be better if less experienced users are given specific instructions to avoid unfortunate misunderstandings. Mixero might have noticed that few users make mistakes because they rarely need to mix tokens other than BTC and ETH.
If that happens, I think it makes the purpose of mixing pointless. It's no different from mixing BTC and then sending the results to a Centralized cryptocurrency exchanges that implements KYC.
what would be achieved here by mixing. :(It can break public connection. Personally I would not like to move my coins from an address that was posted in forums or any where publicly. If I had to move it then I will use a mixer or a via source so that I can hide my trace. It's not always against the authority but from public visibilities too.
It can break public connection. Personally I would not like to move my coins from an address that was posted in forums or any where publicly. If I had to move it then I will use a mixer or a via source so that I can hide my trace. It's not always against the authority but from public visibilities too.Financial status is also a personal secret that we need to protect. Financial weakness can create contempt, while success can create envy and endless troubles. Recent kidnappings for ransom of wealthy people in the crypto market are warning of the risks for crypto investors and driving the demand for their use of Mixers.
Has anyone here tested the recently implemented ricochet tool? Any experiences, maybe someone from the signature campaign?The last time I used it, the number of confirmations was higher otherwise I don't see a difference. It's a good service for those who are lazy to create multiple wallets and may be necessary after completing the mixing to ensure you get a low AML score.
https://mixero.io/ricochet (https://mixero.io/ricochet)
On another forum, it was mentioned in the discussion, that it would be good to have some feedback from users who have used this feature.
The last time I used it, the number of confirmations was higher otherwise I don't see a difference. It's a good service for those who are lazy to create multiple wallets and may be necessary after completing the mixing to ensure you get a low AML score.You didn't try to do the AML score before and after the ricochet tool?
The last time I used it, the number of confirmations was higher otherwise I don't see a difference. It's a good service for those who are lazy to create multiple wallets and may be necessary after completing the mixing to ensure you get a low AML score.I'm not sure if the inclusion of a few random hops can actually increase the cleanliness of BTC, or if it's simply an additional feature to improve user anonymity on the BTC network. If it only makes on-chain investigations more complicated, it doesn't really appeal to me.
The most interesting thing is the 0.5% fee that Mixero applies to Ricochet, which is significantly lower than the base service fee of 0.7% - 4.7%. Perhaps this is just an introductory fee for Mixero to attract more users and compete with other Mixers.With a little effort, anyone can make a 'ricochet' by themselves. It's just passing the coin through several addresses, it's not classic mixing. Therefore, it cannot be compared.
With a little effort, anyone can make a 'ricochet' by themselves. It's just passing the coin through several addresses, it's not classic mixing. Therefore, it cannot be compared.I'm not a blockchain expert, so the technology behind crypto Mixers has always been a bit confusing to me. I just find this new service from Mixero quite interesting, as it could attract more users to Mixero services. Then they might explore further and use Mixero main service for a higher level of anonymity and "cleaner" BTC.
0.5% is a fair price for automating such a service.
Welcome to Altcointalk! I've just joined your signature campaign and hope to have a long collaboration together.I completed the mix 6 hours ago but I have not received my funds yet. I want to know what happened. I contacted the staff by email but no one responded to my question. Please help me solve the problem in time. I am very worried. I mixed about 29k funds. I hope we can contact my email as soon as possible.
I would review your service and leave my feedbacks here.
Newt wishes.
I want to know what happened today. Is there any problem with your system? How long will it take for you to fix this? My order was completed eight hours ago, but I haven't received my funds yet.Welcome to Altcointalk! I've just joined your signature campaign and hope to have a long collaboration together.I completed the mix 6 hours ago but I have not received my funds yet. I want to know what happened. I contacted the staff by email but no one responded to my question. Please help me solve the problem in time. I am very worried. I mixed about 29k funds. I hope we can contact my email as soon as possible.
I would review your service and leave my feedbacks here.
Newt wishes.
I completed the mix 6 hours ago but I have not received my funds yet. I want to know what happened. I contacted the staff by email but no one responded to my question. Please help me solve the problem in time. I am very worried. I mixed about 29k funds. I hope we can contact my email as soon as possible.
I want to know what happened today. Is there any problem with your system? How long will it take for you to fix this? My order was completed eight hours ago, but I haven't received my funds yet. Now my problem has been solved. Although it took a long time to wait, I finally got my funds.Welcome to Altcointalk! I've just joined your signature campaign and hope to have a long collaboration together.I completed the mix 6 hours ago but I have not received my funds yet. I want to know what happened. I contacted the staff by email but no one responded to my question. Please help me solve the problem in time. I am very worried. I mixed about 29k funds. I hope we can contact my email as soon as possible.
I would review your service and leave my feedbacks here.
Newt wishes.
Now my problem has been solved. Although it took a long time to wait, I finally got my funds.
I want to know what happened today. Is there any problem with your system? How long will it take for you to fix this? My order was completed eight hours ago, but I haven't received my funds yet.You don't need to post multiple consecutive posts in same topic.
I want to know what happened today. Is there any problem with your system? How long will it take for you to fix this? My order was completed eight hours ago, but I haven't received my funds yet. Now my problem has been solved. Although it took a long time to wait, I finally got my funds.
With a little effort, anyone can make a 'ricochet' by themselves. It's just passing the coin through several addresses, it's not classic mixing. Therefore, it cannot be compared.I'm not a blockchain expert, so the technology behind crypto Mixers has always been a bit confusing to me. I just find this new service from Mixero quite interesting, as it could attract more users to Mixero services. Then they might explore further and use Mixero main service for a higher level of anonymity and "cleaner" BTC.
0.5% is a fair price for automating such a service.
The competition between Mixers is becoming increasingly fierce in this bullrun, with some other Mixers even organizing various art contests to get more exposure. Besides maintaining the monthly BTC price prediction contest, launching new products is essential for Mixero to continue to exist and attract more users.
I want to know what happened today. Is there any problem with your system? How long will it take for you to fix this? My order was completed eight hours ago, but I haven't received my funds yet. Now my problem has been solved. Although it took a long time to wait, I finally got my funds.
Sorry for the inconvenience, now tell your friends and give some positive feedbacks. Hope we see you again.Well, it's good that he didn't choose Delay 168 hours to get the best anonymity from Mixero ^^
I am happy that the mixer was able to mix +29k without any issues.I don't have a verified source however I found somewhere that Mixero is mixing millions of dollars regularly. It's obviously a successful business right now.
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Sorry for the inconvenience, now tell your friends and give some positive feedbacks. Hope we see you again.Well, it's good that he didn't choose Delay 168 hours to get the best anonymity from Mixero ^^
I think everything provided by Mixero is working fine, and this inconvenience is just due to a lack of experience using mixers. My first time using a Mixer was the same, I was worried that my BTC was permanently lost but fortunately, my BTC finally arrived at the designated addresses.
I hope @soul1234 will become a loyal user of Mixero in the future to share his interesting story and memorable experience with potential Mixero users!
I don't have a verified source however I found somewhere that Mixero is mixing millions of dollars regularly. It's obviously a successful business right now.
I'm guessing he went with the lowest fees, it happened to me with one mixer that disappeared few months ago on BTT it was my first experience and I went with the lowest fees and end up paying with my time waiting for almost 48 hrs. LolWell, everyone will have memorable experiences with Mixers. The feeling of waiting for BTC to be mixed is really unpleasant, the worry often makes us restless because after all, Mixers are just a protocol. Users should choose a suitable time period for their needs and use reputable Mixers like Mixero to minimize risks and unnecessary worries.
The most trusted mixer currently active, I'm not surprised.
I hope it's true because there is no way of verifying these data. But mixero has been operating for a while which obviously built trust as well as reputation. I don't think majority of users opt for the mixing doesn't really give much attention on the fee factor but definitely on the waiting time.I don't have a verified source however I found somewhere that Mixero is mixing millions of dollars regularly. It's obviously a successful business right now.
The most trusted mixer currently active, I'm not surprised.
This is almost impossible to prove, and even proving it would be in complete contradiction, given that the basis of Mixero.io and other mixer services is the privacy and anonymity of its users.I hope it's true because there is no way of verifying these data. But mixero has been operating for a while which obviously built trust as well as reputation. I don't think majority of users opt for the mixing doesn't really give much attention on the fee factor but definitely on the waiting time.I don't have a verified source however I found somewhere that Mixero is mixing millions of dollars regularly. It's obviously a successful business right now.
The most trusted mixer currently active, I'm not surprised.
This is almost impossible to prove, and even proving it would be in complete contradiction, given that the basis of Mixero.io and other mixer services is the privacy and anonymity of its users.
Most of the mixers do not even have any kind of analytics on the site that would deal with traffic statistics.
This is almost impossible to prove, and even proving it would be in complete contradiction, given that the basis of Mixero.io and other mixer services is the privacy and anonymity of its users.
Most of the mixers do not even have any kind of analytics on the site that would deal with traffic statistics.
Isn't it possible if some services can track mixero addresses and coins?I think you're right, there might be some chainanalysis companies that might be able to track Mixero addresses, but surely Mixero as a mixer already knew such things and that's why they might have mechanisms to stop such type of tracking. That's why I think it's not really that easy to trace the transactions.
Because any incoming funds will be mixed with mixero wallet.
So, theoretically, it would be possible to track some movement of mixero inputs and outputs funds/coins
It is so in theory, but even though I have not used Mixero for a long time, I assume that as one of the older and proven mixers, I can avoid easy recognition of the connection of their wallets. Otherwise, mixing through their service would be useless.Isn't it possible if some services can track mixero addresses and coins?I think you're right, there might be some chainanalysis companies that might be able to track Mixero addresses, but surely Mixero as a mixer already knew such things and that's why they might have mechanisms to stop such type of tracking. That's why I think it's not really that easy to trace the transactions.
Because any incoming funds will be mixed with mixero wallet.
So, theoretically, it would be possible to track some movement of mixero inputs and outputs funds/coins
Come on Mixero, give us a New Year's present. Activate the referral program already :)Yes, this is a promise we have been waiting for a long time.
All mixers are equal, but some mixers are more equal than others ;)For me, there is no equality in the market.
That being said, I don't mean this as a jibe to any mixer, except for the ones who rug-pulled people obviously. (Whirlwind Money, RoyalMix etc.) But you should be able to drop-in a mixer in place of any other.
Come on Mixero, give us a New Year's present. Activate the referral program already :)
I am not waiting for Mixero referral programs. I think the monthly BTC price prediction contest has done a good job of helping Mixero reach many potential users on AltcoinsTalks. I participate in it every month and always hope that I will be lucky enough to correctly predict BTC price to receive reward from Mixero ^^
I guess the prediction contest is more of rewarding the community members for their contribution in reaching the user on altcoinstalk but referral program can be a game changer, it can reach much wider audience and with lucrative rewards people will be encouraged to push more people.
I am not waiting for Mixero referral programs. I think the monthly BTC price prediction contest has done a good job of helping Mixero reach many potential users on AltcoinsTalks. I participate in it every month and always hope that I will be lucky enough to correctly predict BTC price to receive reward from Mixero ^^
Isn't it possible if some services can track mixero addresses and coins?I think you're right, there might be some chainanalysis companies that might be able to track Mixero addresses, but surely Mixero as a mixer already knew such things and that's why they might have mechanisms to stop such type of tracking. That's why I think it's not really that easy to trace the transactions.
Because any incoming funds will be mixed with mixero wallet.
So, theoretically, it would be possible to track some movement of mixero inputs and outputs funds/coins
A good referral campaign can have a tremendous impact. Just look at binance for example. They are doing good referral campaigns until now. I have earned about 0.05 btc (which wasn't as much mlndy as it is now) with their referral campaign, as I promoted it in a famous portal in Brazil long ago...I am not sure if we can compare referral program from big centralized exchanges with referrals for mixing services like Mixero.
A good referral campaign can have a tremendous impact. Just look at binance for example. They are doing good referral campaigns until now. I have earned about 0.05 btc (which wasn't as much mlndy as it is now) with their referral campaign, as I promoted it in a famous portal in Brazil long ago...I am not sure if we can compare referral program from big centralized exchanges with referrals for mixing services like Mixero.
There is also another issue with privacy that could potentially connect your earnings with your addresses, but that could easily be solved if withdrawal payments would be made in Monero.
I am not sure about Monero payments as this would require the mixers to sell users BTC payouts to exchanges for receiving monero. Im not sure they'd want to leave the fate of affiliates' money in the hands of even a 3rd party exchange.Mixero is already using Monero in their system with advanced mixing, so I don't see why that would be a problem.
Mixero is already using Monero in their system with advanced mixing, so I don't see why that would be a problem.It can always go through the mixer additionally if there is concern about the recognition of the connection.
It is probably going to be easier for them to use it and they will pay much less transactions fees, without leaving any traces and connections (if done correctly).
Giving option to users would be good to select between BTC and XMR but I would probably choose monero myself.
It can always go through the mixer additionally if there is concern about the recognition of the connection.Doing extra step and paying more fees... no thank you.
For any long-term thinking, I would always prefer to choose BTC, even if the second choice is Monero
It can always go through the mixer additionally if there is concern about the recognition of the connection.Doing extra step and paying more fees... no thank you.
For any long-term thinking, I would always prefer to choose BTC, even if the second choice is Monero
There is always a chance Monero is going to be better long term, and I can always swap it to Bitcoin whenever I want, there are many options for doing that.
No other coin would survive getting delisted from most centralized exchanges and it's the best privacy coin we have, so it's here to stay.
What do you guys think?Good idea, I was also thinking of suggesting that.
Looks like there is going to be an Altcoinstalks community award, similar to btt editionAdmin has just posted a social media contest for Altcoinstalks members.
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=327416.msg1699391;topicseen#msg1699391
It would be amazing to see Mixero supporting it with a small prize in bitcoin for the winner. Even a small amount such as 50-100 usd would be amazing imo, and give some nice incentive and support for the contest.Great idea. It seems very possible to support the contest. Admin should welcome Mixero support. If there is a reward in stable coins (USDT, USDC, etc) or in Bitcoin, forum members must be more interested joining the contest. Even only around $50, it would be much appreciated.
More sponsors there are for this community award it's better, and this is another good way for Mixero to get additional promotion in forum.You're right. It is not only an additional promotion but it will be a pride for Mixero as well.
It would be amazing to see Mixero supporting it with a small prize in bitcoin for the winner. Even a small amount such as 50-100 usd would be amazing imo, and give some nice incentive and support for the contest.Great idea. It seems very possible to support the contest. Admin should welcome Mixero support. If there is a reward in stable coins (USDT, USDC, etc) or in Bitcoin, forum members must be more interested joining the contest. Even only around $50, it would be much appreciated.
If I read the news that you included the link, the ban on cryptocurrency advertising is about ICO because ICO is synonymous with failure and scam......It would be amazing to see Mixero supporting it with a small prize in bitcoin for the winner. Even a small amount such as 50-100 usd would be amazing imo, and give some nice incentive and support for the contest.Great idea. It seems very possible to support the contest. Admin should welcome Mixero support. If there is a reward in stable coins (USDT, USDC, etc) or in Bitcoin, forum members must be more interested joining the contest. Even only around $50, it would be much appreciated.
I don't know for sure whether currently there are still social media that prohibit advertising related to cryptocurrency, as happened with Facebook (https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-42881892 (https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-42881892)).
Because of this, many ICOs have simply disappeared, with little recourse for the "investor" - a loose term, since those who pay into ICOs do not typically get a genuine stake in the new company.
Even only around $50, it would be much appreciated.You are free to share anything in your mind here: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=327416.msg1700210#msg1700210
It occurred to me:It purely depends on Admin own decision. I've no idea about this, he may have certain concept for the contest.
Since the admin is running a social media contest, would it be possible to include the sponsor's label on the participants' posts for the tasks they need to complete?
I don't know for sure whether currently there are still social media that prohibit advertising related to cryptocurrency, as happened with Facebook (https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-42881892 (https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-42881892)).I don't get the updated information about this. In the past, there are few social media that bans crypto ads. Facebook, twitter, and tiktok banned crypto ads. Even google ever banned crypto ads. However, it may be changed already. Not sure about the updated rules on the social media. Anyway, it can be done on the social media that allows crypto ads. But the contest rules may need some adjustments. :)
You are free to share anything in your mind here: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=327416.msg1700210#msg1700210Okay, thanks for the information. ;)
But the altcoinstalks forum is also a discussion platform that is directly related to cryptocurrency.ICOmania turned exclusively into scam objects, which hid behind ICO methods for collecting money. That was the reason for the ban from social media (actually primarily Facebook) It is still quite restrictive on FB when it comes to the promotion of a crypto product or service, especially if it is a non-paid promotion. I guess it's obvious why that is.
I am also confused about promotions like this, on the one hand if we violate the rules of social media, our social media account could be banned but the altcoinstalks thing is not an ICO, but a forum for discussions.
ICOmania turned exclusively into scam objects, which hid behind ICO methods for collecting money. That was the reason for the ban from social media (actually primarily Facebook) It is still quite restrictive on FB when it comes to the promotion of a crypto product or service, especially if it is a non-paid promotion. I guess it's obvious why that is.
G00gle is not that radical though, so in certain search terms, the first few results can be phishing sites. (try to research some mixers for example)
I've admin on some crypto groups and pages on FB for 10+ years and sometimes they delete my posts, mostly if there's an affiliate link on it.
So Mark Zuckerberg is going to remove fact checking but he will still censor crypto posts?That clown is only pretending to change anything, and circus show must go on :P
Is Ethereum mixing going to be available any time soon on Mixero website?
I tried going to Adnavcemd mixing option but I saw a message that ethereum mixing is currently under maintenance and that I should use Bitcoin mixing or try again later.
I always prefer bitcoin and monero more than ethereum, but I am sure there are people who use it much more than me.
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Don't get me wrong, obviously the scams should be deleted, but it's very clear that their content moderators just aren't interested in telling the difference between what's a scam and what's actually a real project, so they just lindly delete everything.
That clown is only pretending to change anything, and circus show must go on :P
This world is getting more crazy every day, and I heard that Trump son got rich in few minutes with some shitcoin while Trump is promotion his own meme scam token.
Puppet scammers and lunatics appear to be on top positions in most countries... ::)
We can't expect from this people to actually care about people, bitcoin and privacy.
(https://i.ibb.co/QH0xpLB/img7fe7294bf848eff03fb965b90a4a9875.jpg)
The status of Ethereum Mixing when I opened it was still in Maintenance mode. I have never used the Ethereum Mixing feature, but I prefer BTC mixing.Mixero is probably not ready to implement an XMR bridge for ETH mixing, and users can only mix BTC for now. However, if altseason explodes quickly and ETH price increases significantly, and the demand for ETH mixing rises, Mixero may focus on developing and providing this service to users.
This world is getting more crazy every day, and I heard that Trump son got rich in few minutes with some shitcoin while Trump is promotion his own meme scam token.
Puppet scammers and lunatics appear to be on top positions in most countries... ::)
We can't expect from this people to actually care about people, bitcoin and privacy.
The status of Ethereum Mixing when I opened it was still in Maintenance mode. I have never used the Ethereum Mixing feature, but I prefer BTC mixing.Mixero is probably not ready to implement an XMR bridge for ETH mixing, and users can only mix BTC for now. However, if altseason explodes quickly and ETH price increases significantly, and the demand for ETH mixing rises, Mixero may focus on developing and providing this service to users.
If ETH holders simply want to protect identity, they can use ETH to buy BTC on CEXs, withdraw BTC from CEXs to their personal wallets, and then mix BTC on Mixero. It's quite complex but can still help users partially conceal their identity in a few transactions.
The status of Ethereum Mixing when I opened it was still in Maintenance mode. I have never used the Ethereum Mixing feature, but I prefer BTC mixing.Mixero is probably not ready to implement an XMR bridge for ETH mixing, and users can only mix BTC for now. However, if altseason explodes quickly and ETH price increases significantly, and the demand for ETH mixing rises, Mixero may focus on developing and providing this service to users.
If ETH holders simply want to protect identity, they can use ETH to buy BTC on CEXs, withdraw BTC from CEXs to their personal wallets, and then mix BTC on Mixero. It's quite complex but can still help users partially conceal their identity in a few transactions.
Buying BTC on CEX cannot protect user identity privacy. Isn't KYC usually required at CEX?
There are still many DEXs that can be used for trading while remaining anonymous (some of them can be seen here: https://kycnot.me/?t=exchange).
Then, isn't it possible that when you buy from an Exchange, the address used for deposits can directly be from a mixing service like Mixero without going through your wallet first?
That clown is only pretending to change anything, and circus show must go on :P
This world is getting more crazy every day, and I heard that Trump son got rich in few minutes with some shitcoin while Trump is promotion his own meme scam token.
Puppet scammers and lunatics appear to be on top positions in most countries... ::)
We can't expect from this people to actually care about people, bitcoin and privacy.
(https://i.ibb.co/QH0xpLB/img7fe7294bf848eff03fb965b90a4a9875.jpg)
I saw his tweet earlier this morning and had no idea what to make of it. A few of my friends bought in and came away with some decent bags, but I kept wondering why Trump would launch a meme coin just a few hours before his inauguration. I was expecting him to tweet about Bitcoin rather than create a random memecoin to show his interest in crypto.
I hate the fact that the Bitcoin community is relying heavily on him to kickstart the bull run earlier than expected. Now I'm concerned we'll see a significant drop tomorrow.
To me, I think Donald Trump love meme and obviously, memes are part of the crypto economy whether he tweet about Bitcoin or meme.
Remember that he has already made some promises about Bitcoin developments, i mean his ten plans of which, one of them has been settled, the SEC appointment. If you are following up some news developments, you may understand that Donald Trump looked committed to accomplishing his plans on the crypto economy, there are indications that the Bitcoin strategic reserve is gaining momentum, though not yet settled but there is hope rising.
That clown is only pretending to change anything, and circus show must go on :PI am surprised that Trump's fans have not already appeared to defend him and explain to you why this is good for the crypto ecosystem.
This world is getting more crazy every day, and I heard that Trump son got rich in few minutes with some shitcoin while Trump is promotion his own meme scam token.
Puppet scammers and lunatics appear to be on top positions in most countries... ::)
We can't expect from this people to actually care about people, bitcoin and privacy.
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There are still some KYC-Free CEX, such as exch.cx, which works with btc xmr and some other altcoins.
Such service is also a great opportunity for many people who wants privacy at a low cost exchange (as CEX is still much cheaper than bridges and most DEX)
I am surprised that Trump's fans have not already appeared to defend him and explain to you why this is good for the crypto ecosystem.
In some normal time, Trump should be accused of manipulating his influence and abusing the presidential function for personal enrichment, or the enrichment of his son, anyway.
I am surprised that Trump's fans have not already appeared to defend him and explain to you why this is good for the crypto ecosystem.
In some normal time, Trump should be accused of manipulating his influence and abusing the presidential function for personal enrichment, or the enrichment of his son, anyway.
By the way, the mixing option in Mixero (advanced) also includes a Clean Coins option that users can choose to reduce AML risk.
I am surprised that Trump's fans have not already appeared to defend him and explain to you why this is good for the crypto ecosystem.I am not surprised at all.
In some normal time, Trump should be accused of manipulating his influence and abusing the presidential function for personal enrichment, or the enrichment of his son, anyway.
By the way, the mixing option in Mixero (advanced) also includes a Clean Coins option that users can choose to reduce AML risk.Luckily for Monero there are no such things as ''clean'' and ''dirty'' coins, but it is very good to have this option available in Mixero.
I was thiunking about the XMR bridge. It would be nice if users could exchange BTC > XMR and vice versa. I know this is out of the scope of a traditional mixer, but as there is already a XMR bridge in mixero, this is basically ready to go. As customers would also save some fees
By the way, the mixing option in Mixero (advanced) also includes a Clean Coins option that users can choose to reduce AML risk.Luckily for Monero there are no such things as ''clean'' and ''dirty'' coins, but it is very good to have this option available in Mixero.
(https://i.imgur.com/64dZYse.png)
Meanwhile, according to Mixero's brief description, a clean coin is a coin that comes from a centralized exchange.It all depends what centralized exchange are we talking about, and there is not enough transparency in this process.
Meanwhile, according to Mixero's brief description, a clean coin is a coin that comes from a centralized exchange.It all depends what centralized exchange are we talking about, and there is not enough transparency in this process.
There are some shady exchanges and coins coming from them could easily trigger warning on some other exchanges.
We can never be 100% certain with this.
When reading the phrase 'Guaranteeing a Low AML Risk Score,' I wondered whether the Centralized Exchange in question is the one that applies the KYC process to the user. Because usually AML (Anti-Money Laundering) is still related to the KYC (Know Your Customer) process.
I did not find much information about the clean coin obtained through the CEX on the Mixero website.
https://mixero.io/about
System MaintenanceThe site opens normally, does this mean that everything is functional and you just forgot to inform us here about it or is it still under maintenance even though it is available?
Hello, we are currently performing emergency maintenance on our system. Our services should be back up and running in approximately 6 hours. Any mixes in progress will be processed after this maintenance is completed. We will post an update as soon as service returns to normal.
I am surprised that Trump's fans have not already appeared to defend him and explain to you why this is good for the crypto ecosystem.
In some normal time, Trump should be accused of manipulating his influence and abusing the presidential function for personal enrichment, or the enrichment of his son, anyway.
That is indeed strange. I didn't expect such a strange move by trump...By the way, the mixing option in Mixero (advanced) also includes a Clean Coins option that users can choose to reduce AML risk.
I was thiunking about the XMR bridge. It would be nice if users could exchange BTC > XMR and vice versa. I know this is out of the scope of a traditional mixer, but as there is already a XMR bridge in mixero, this is basically ready to go. As customers would also save some fees
One thing that I often do before sending larges amounts of BTC that has been in mixers before is to try a small UTXO.I even receive reward from the Mixero signature campaign by my CEX account because I used Mixero. Mixero service is quite good and ensured that I would receive the cleanest SATs according to CEXs standards.
I have recently send about 15 usd from mixero signature campaign to a CEX . It was ok, then I sent the rest. No problems.
I have used a few other mixers but still encountered some troubles with CEXs, they sent me warnings and requested that I provide more information about the origin and purpose of the approximately $200 worth of BTC deposited into my account. This was really inconvenient and I spent quite a lot of time working with CEX supporter @@
I also never had a problem with coins from the mixer, I hope it stays that way.. Although I have never tried to send directly from the mixer (or from signature payments) to CEX. This is definitely not recommended.I have used a few other mixers but still encountered some troubles with CEXs, they sent me warnings and requested that I provide more information about the origin and purpose of the approximately $200 worth of BTC deposited into my account. This was really inconvenient and I spent quite a lot of time working with CEX supporter @@
This is quite unfortunately. This never happened to me, luckly.
My suggestion is to always move your coins from the mixer to another address of your wallet, then send a very small amount to the CEX. Sending coins directly from signature campaign/mixer to the CEX may lead to trouble.
Even the bitcoins that came from Sinbad mixer, Binance and some other exchanges didn't cause any problems.
I sent those coins from sinbad to exch.cxI sent to Binance a few times, but the coins went from the mixer to my wallet, and only then to the exchange. Later I saw that some from the same campaign had to provide additional confirmation of the origin of those coins, but they received the campaign payout directly to the exchange wallet.
I was worried about them, so I sent them all to exch.cx just a few weeks after it was seized. Exch is probably the best CEX around, and kyc-free. Amazing service.
I was worried about them, so I sent them all to exch.cx just a few weeks after it was seized. Exch is probably the best CEX around, and kyc-free. Amazing service.Why didnt you use Mixero instead?
I was worried about them, so I sent them all to exch.cx just a few weeks after it was seized. Exch is probably the best CEX around, and kyc-free. Amazing service.Why didnt you use Mixero instead?
It would be interesting if Mixero could provide service to send monero and get bitcoin directly, for additional fees.
I know this is not exactly mixer but they already work with monero in advanced mixing, so it's kinda supported indirectly.
Yeah, allowing BTC > XMR swaps would be amazing and I would love to try it.
Yeah, allowing BTC > XMR swaps would be amazing and I would love to try it.
You can technically do this right now without a mixer
Conversion between two different currencies is certainly not a mixing process, but a swap. Maybe it wouldn't be a bad option for mixers if they had it on offer, then they could be considered less illegal in some positions.Yeah, allowing BTC > XMR swaps would be amazing and I would love to try it.
You can technically do this right now without a mixer:
Go to any exchange such as Exch (as you just mentioned), Tradeogre or another one, sell your BTC for XMR, receive it, send it back to the service again but this time to receive BTC. Then rinse and repeat.It doesn't even have to be via XMR. For example, LTC is also fine, if it goes through the no-kyc exchange again
Go to any exchange such as Exch (as you just mentioned), Tradeogre or another one, sell your BTC for XMR, receive it, send it back to the service again but this time to receive BTC. Then rinse and repeat.It doesn't even have to be via XMR. For example, LTC is also fine, if it goes through the no-kyc exchange again
Conversion between two different currencies is certainly not a mixing process, but a swap. Maybe it wouldn't be a bad option for mixers if they had it on offer, then they could be considered less illegal in some positions.
Yeah, allowing BTC > XMR swaps would be amazing and I would love to try it.
You can technically do this right now without a mixer
Ofc. Swapping coins is not the goal of a mixer
This would be just an extra feature, as mixero already works with XMR.
Go to any exchange such as Exch (as you just mentioned), Tradeogre or another one, sell your BTC for XMR, receive it, send it back to the service again but this time to receive BTC. Then rinse and repeat.You can do that, but sometimes those exchanges don't have enough monero, and it is always good to have more options to choose.
It's a little later than we're used to, but Mixero continues to support this community with another monthly prediction contest. :) The same conditions as before, the first prediction until 12th Feb, while the deadline for the second prediction is 24th Feb. Prizes as before, a total of $500 ($300, $100, $100) for the three closest predictions.
Mixero ADVANCED MODE Bitcoin Mixer Bitcoin Price Prediction - February 2025 (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=327852.0)
Thanks for reminding me. I almost lost the deadline for the first prediction.If you win, I expect at least 10% of the prize. ;D
I missed the one in January, I was happy that I didn't miss this one.
And the price is amazing. 300 USD is a lot of money here in Brazil :)
Thanks for reminding me. I almost lost the deadline for the first prediction.If you win, I expect at least 10% of the prize. ;D
I missed the one in January, I was happy that I didn't miss this one.
And the price is amazing. 300 USD is a lot of money here in Brazil :)
Yes, the prizes are generous, a total of $500 for the closest three predictions. In the beginning, I won a prize once, but then there were not many participants, now there is a more significant number. Unfortunately, I'm not particularly lucky with these kinds of games.
I have won several prizes in the games and rounds board in btt.I've been lucky a couple of times, although that's rare. However, I have to complain that I was never a winner in a contest where your Giveaway Manager (https://bitcoindata.science/giveaway-manager/) was used
I still from time to time, about once every 1 or two months. I go there daily ;)
I missed many mixero price predictions, I need to pay attention there more often.We have a proverb, if you want to win, you have to participate. :D
I missed many mixero price predictions, I need to pay attention there more often.
I almost missed this one, but managed to see the discussion here and posted my prediction just now. :)For me, Mixero monthly BTC price prediction contest is a good opportunity to better promote this Mixer, and at the same time, give AltcoinsTalks members a chance to receive a big reward. I think in this prediction contest, luck is more important than analytical ability and market prediction, because the gap between the winners and the rest is very small.
I have been participating in the prediction contest for a while but haven't won anything, came very close but not good enough to win but let's hope the luck favors this time.
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I have been participating in the prediction contest for a while but haven't won anything, came very close but not good enough to win but let's hope the luck favors this time.
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Several times, I followed Bitcoin price predictions and tried to use technical analysis with one or more indicators.
Only once did the price prediction get close to the price of Bitcoin listed on CoinmarketCap at the end of the contest, and I managed to get $100 from Mixero (thank you, Mixero and AB de Royse777 Management).
I have to practice reading the candlestick chart a lot again.
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I have won a few in bitcointalk forum..
Just luck, no technical analysis. Just added a random now close the price we were when I made the guess.
For competitors, it is easier in altcoinstalks forum as there are fewer participants.
Hello, is the mixero service reliable and untraceable?Yes, Mixero can be considered a reliable mixer service. We have not had a case so far where someone complained that an exchange blocked their funds because of Mixero.
The purpose of use is to receive money from a cryptocurrency casino exchange to my personal wallet, select the advanced method of mixero, receive the money to my new wallet address, and then deposit it to Binance. Is this coin a clean coin?
I want to hide my use of cryptocurrency casinos from the government.
P.S. As I am Korean, I am not good at English, so I used a translator. Please understand even if the grammar is awkward. thank you
Several times, I followed Bitcoin price predictions and tried to use technical analysis with one or more indicators.As you can see, the predictions differ by only a few hundred dollars, which is just a few thousandths of the BTC price on the market. I don't think anyone can achieve such a high degree of accuracy in predicting the closing price of a monthly candle. This is much more difficult than predicting price reversals using Fibonacci or MAs.
Only once did the price prediction get close to the price of Bitcoin listed on CoinmarketCap at the end of the contest, and I managed to get $100 from Mixero (thank you, Mixero and AB de Royse777 Management).
I have to practice reading the candlestick chart a lot again.
Hello, is the mixero service reliable and untraceable?This depends on many factors and mostly if user is doing good address management or not.
The purpose of use is to receive money from a cryptocurrency casino exchange to my personal wallet, select the advanced method of mixero, receive the money to my new wallet address, and then deposit it to Binance. Is this coin a clean coin?Remember not to send coins directly from mixero to binance, but first to your own non-custodial wallet, and then to exchange.
You can have pseudo anonymity with mixero.Hello, is the mixero service reliable and untraceable?This depends on many factors and mostly if user is doing good address management or not.
But you should know that Bitcoin is not untraceable, since everything is on public blockchain.
For small amount of coins, you will be untraceable because 100% of the received coins will.be from somewhere else, coins which you never touched.I was just saying that you can't have untraceable Bitcoins, since coins are always going to trace to somewhere, back all the way to the source of exchange or mining pool.
But it is hard to do so with large amount of coins, such as 1000 btc.
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Does anyone have any information related to mixero and bybit hack?
This may be because eXch addresses are public and it is easy to see that a deposit was made to the service, and the ability to exchange to Monero means that the link can be easily broken.
Information I previously read here (https://www.lazarusbounty.com/ (https://www.lazarusbounty.com/)) is that crypto assets from Lazarus Wallet are transferred to exchanges, and the largest are transferred to eXch. It caught my attention, too, because they use an exchange service, not a mixing service.
If a Bitcoin mixer is used, I assume it will be Yomix.I thought yomix ended up as an exit scam.
It is a rather ungrateful situation. Until it happens, the mixer cannot know whether the coins from the hack will end up in his wallet. But when that happens, it becomes the target of the investigation.
I thought yomix ended up as an exit scam.There have been sporadic scam accusations against them as well as some research on another forum. However, the Yomix site is still online, although marked https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=315215.msg1723031#msg1723031
Exch even closed their bitcointalk topic because there were people from bybit posting there. I think they are afraid of someone spreading misinformation.A special hunt is being conducted against them under the X account of @ZachXBT.
Exch even closed their bitcointalk topic because there were people from bybit posting there. I think they are afraid of someone spreading misinformation.A special hunt is being conducted against them under the X account of @ZachXBT.
I searched the web and looks like the hacker didnt send any coins to mixero, which looks very good imo. It is better to stay away from authorities radar.They are sending ethreum so Mixero is useless for them, but I think they are using tornado cash and centralized mixers that accept ethreum.
I searched the web and looks like the hacker didnt send any coins to mixero, which looks very good imo. It is better to stay away from authorities radar.They are sending ethreum so Mixero is useless for them, but I think they are using tornado cash and centralized mixers that accept ethreum.
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Within just two hours of the heist, the stolen funds were sent to 50 different wallets, which were subsequently emptied. The funds will then likely be routed via various channels in order to further throw investigators off the scent and confound efforts to block the actors from cashing out, Elliptic explained.
These include decentralized (DeFi) and centralized exchanges, cross-chain bridges, crypto mixers and an exchange called eXch which allows users to swap crypto assets anonymously.
Hello, is the mixero service reliable and untraceable?
The purpose of use is to receive money from a cryptocurrency casino exchange to my personal wallet, select the advanced method of mixero, receive the money to my new wallet address, and then deposit it to Binance. Is this coin a clean coin?
I want to hide my use of cryptocurrency casinos from the government.
P.S. As I am Korean, I am not good at English, so I used a translator. Please understand even if the grammar is awkward. thank you
I searched the web and looks like the hacker didnt send any coins to mixero, which looks very good imo. It is better to stay away from authorities radar.They are sending ethreum so Mixero is useless for them, but I think they are using tornado cash and centralized mixers that accept ethreum.
I don't really follow anything related with ethereum and I don't know what mixers have this coins listed, but authorities can't stop sending of any coins.
This is not such a bad thing, but I am sure governments would more like to have fully controlled coin instead.
There are accusations that the Lazarus group runs cryptocurrency mixers but it would be difficult to identify their names since many of these mixers do not have a central address for mixing. So we cannot know if they used a mixero but they used more than one mixer.QuoteThese include decentralized (DeFi) and centralized exchanges, cross-chain bridges, crypto mixers and an exchange called eXch which allows users to swap crypto assets anonymously.
Fortunately, lazarus hackers don`t know about this mixero feature :DAs far as I understand, the hacker first sent the stolen coins to 42 addresses and then sent them to another 1000+ addresses. It's a lot more complicated to follow through now. There is even an API (https://docs.lazarusbounty.com/hackscan/api-references) for easy checking of hacker addresses
Wouldnt it be a good ideia just to turn off this feature for a few days? to avoid problems related to this incident.
I don't understand why people are so concerned what Mixero or other services are going to do with incoming coins... they are created for this purpose exactly, like it or not.
I think our biggest enemies currently are big cent4ralized exchanges and governments, combined they can create huge damage in Bitcoin ecosystem.
But another problem is that regular users are so used to listening and trusting both of them, that they started to join attacks to services who provide privacy services and don't ask for any verification.
The problem is that is mixero mix those coins coming from lazarus group, it will become a target for the government. We all know what happened to Chipmixer, by mixing coins from binance hack.Most of the hacked Ethereum with Bybit was swapped to Bitcoin via Thorchain. >$1 billion. Certainly, all Bitcoin services, including mixers, will be under the microscope.
I don't want to see mixero share the same fate.
$1 billion from this case alone is a huge amount, and there are great chances that many of us, even ordinary users, will have coins from this batch at some point. It's a bad direction if we're going in the direction that the only legitimate mixers are those coming from the FBI and the US government.
The problem is that is mixero mix those coins coming from lazarus group, it will become a target for the government. We all know what happened to Chipmixer, by mixing coins from binance hack.Yeah, it would be terrible if Mixero were abused by Lazarus and then ran into trouble with criminal charges related to money laundering. We can't stop Lazarus from using Mixers, it's their right and the protocol will serve any customer in need.
I don't want to see mixero share the same fate.
Exchanges can't consider all coins "tainted", this is why they will just look a few transactions back (5, 6 or whatever number)They can do whatever they want to do, and I seriously doubt in all of their detection methods.
There are many AML-related proposals for user accounts in this market, I'm not sure if in the future Mixers can apply them to protect themselves. For example, the amount of BTC related to fraud will be rejected when accessing Mixers, only "clean" BTC can be mixed to protect users identity.
I don't understand why people are so concerned what Mixero or other services are going to do with incoming coins... they are created for this purpose exactly, like it or not.The problem is that if Lazarus dumps his coins on a mixer/service and later you use that mixer, you'll end up with one of those coins. Then you deposit on Coinbase or Binance and they block your account.
I think our biggest enemies currently are big cent4ralized exchanges and governments, combined they can create huge damage in Bitcoin ecosystem.
But another problem is that regular users are so used to listening and trusting both of them, that they started to join attacks to services who provide privacy services and don't ask for any verification.
There are many AML-related proposals for user accounts in this market, I'm not sure if in the future Mixers can apply them to protect themselves. For example, the amount of BTC related to fraud will be rejected when accessing Mixers, only "clean" BTC can be mixed to protect users identity.AML check is completely contrary to the essence of Bitcoin mixers. And they would then have to freeze such funds, possibly report them because how will the authorities know that they didn't mix the disputed coins? Even if mixers started requiring KYC, that would be the height of absurdity. Why would anyone use them in that case?
AML check is completely contrary to the essence of Bitcoin mixers. And they would then have to freeze such funds, possibly report them because how will the authorities know that they didn't mix the disputed coins? Even if mixers started requiring KYC, that would be the height of absurdity. Why would anyone use them in that case?A mixer with an OP here said they have the right to deny service to anyone, returning the funds if that's the case. That's probably for specific cases where highly tracked coins (like from the Lazarus hacks) are sent to the mixer. Like I said in my reply above, you accept those coins and then Binance and Bybit are suddenly blocking every one of your customers... very bad for business so I can see some mixers trying to avoid that.
That can defeat the whole purpose of using mixers...Yeah, I get that, I'm just mentioning a solution, like a semi-Mixer providing such a service with a specific target to suit the needs of a distinct customer group. It could also be what governments want instead of super-efficient Mixers like the current ones ^^
Mixers should be based in fugibility of coins, I.e., all coins should be treated equally.
Bybit hack is a very unpleasant situation for the whole community
The problem is that if Lazarus dumps his coins on a mixer/service and later you use that mixer, you'll end up with one of those coins. Then you deposit on Coinbase or Binance and they block your account.Again, the original problem was Bybit exchange and their terrible security.
If some service or exchange is known for freezing coins for any reason, I simply won't use that crap.Sometimes you don't have that option, or rather not pay huge fees using decentralized services. :P
Sometimes you don't have that option, or rather not pay huge fees using decentralized services. :PNot true, you always have a choice.
Like it or not, centralized exchanges are still the cheapest and fastest way to cash out crypto in my country. Known P2P charges more and report to our own IRS, unkown ones there is a scam risk or a risk of them sending your dirty fiat money (from stolen accounts).I don't know what county you are talking about, but I know examples of not paying any extra fees, and there is no taxes reporting.
The problem is that if Lazarus dumps his coins on a mixer/service and later you use that mixer, you'll end up with one of those coins. Then you deposit on Coinbase or Binance and they block your account.
It sounds like Lazarus determines which privacy service will continue to work and which will not.The problem is that if Lazarus dumps his coins on a mixer/service and later you use that mixer, you'll end up with one of those coins. Then you deposit on Coinbase or Binance and they block your account.
If Lazarus sends their coins to any mixer, consider it dead, because they themselves may not be attacking it, but you can bet that all governments, regulatory entities, businesses, and vignettes like ZachXBT will be coming after them.
Not true, you always have a choice.Well, you're acting that like the entire world works the same way.
Fees on decentralized exchanges and p2p trading are not high at all, and it's actually much easier to use them.
In Brazil, P2P charge a bit too much from what I've looked around when I needed one (or tell the IRS about your tx and wallets) and you can't get fiat (BRL) through decentralized exchanges.The charges are high because of the government policies. And the worrisome part is the converting of Bitcoin to USDT or to another cryptocurrency within the exchange yet they are charging us. And when we are selling they will still charge again. So the best way is the decentralized exchanges to sell and buy cryptocurrency is the only solution to this high charges.
The best option is to use a centralized exchange, like it or not. Maybe one day it will be easier, but for myself I'm stuck with Binance and co.
Binance is one of the best but it is not supported in many countries because their malicious behaviors of inflating the fiat exchange in their platforms and others.This practically isn't a direct fault from this CEX Binance, but the hike of fiat in their platforms are done by users in same region and that is why you see most users are being restricted from P2P.
Not true, you always have a choice.Not many trust P2P without a custodian
Fees on decentralized exchanges and p2p trading are not high at all, and it's actually much easier to use them.
Well, you're acting that like the entire world works the same way.I don't know what is exact situation in your country, but P2P exchanges I used (localcoinswap, noones, etc) work the same in all countries, they are not targeting or blacklisting Brazil in any way.
Hello, is the mixero service reliable and untraceable?Mixero.io is a reliable mixer that you can use to mix your bitcoin without issue. It has been in the space for a long time. So the services are all these Kay. You can mix the coins from any place as the coins a bitcoin and if the coins are accepted in the mixer.
The purpose of use is to receive money from a cryptocurrency casino exchange to my personal wallet, select the advanced method of mixero, receive the money to my new wallet address, and then deposit it to Binance. Is this coin a clean coin?
I want to hide my use of cryptocurrency casinos from the government.
P.S. As I am Korean, I am not good at English, so I used a translator. Please understand even if the grammar is awkward. thank you
I don't know what is exact situation in your country, but P2P exchanges I used (localcoinswap, noones, etc) work the same in all countries, they are not targeting or blacklisting Brazil in any way.They're not, but fees are higher of course. I don't expect P2P to be cheaper than Binance, that's impossible because their volume are tons of times smaller and they do everything manually, but money talks and I rather save as much as I can.
I don't know what is exact situation in your country, but P2P exchanges I used (localcoinswap, noones, etc) work the same in all countries, they are not targeting or blacklisting Brazil in any way.
I think you just prefer convenience of centralized exchanges, and you didnt do research all alternative options.
They're not, but fees are higher of course. I don't expect P2P to be cheaper than Binance, that's impossible because their volume are tons of times smaller and they do everything manually, but money talks and I rather save as much as I can.Yeah, we should focus on the services of mixers instead of discussing too much about P2P or the consequences of the Bybit attack. Hackers have many ways to launder the illegal money they've seized. I hope they fail and that money gets frozen and returned to Bybit favorably somehow.
Looking at LocalCoinSwap, they have P2P buying BTC for R$ 469k while Binance pays R$ 486,7k. A difference of 4%, fair enough since some time ago I had to pay a 8% difference, but still...
And we're off topic enough. :P
They're not, but fees are higher of course. I don't expect P2P to be cheaper than Binance, that's impossible because their volume are tons of times smaller and they do everything manually, but money talks and I rather save as much as I can.Yeah, we should focus on the services of mixers instead of discussing too much about P2P or the consequences of the Bybit attack. Hackers have many ways to launder the illegal money they've seized. I hope they fail and that money gets frozen and returned to Bybit favorably somehow.
Looking at LocalCoinSwap, they have P2P buying BTC for R$ 469k while Binance pays R$ 486,7k. A difference of 4%, fair enough since some time ago I had to pay a 8% difference, but still...
And we're off topic enough. :P
Luckily, we haven't had any additional allegations related to any other mixers in the market, especially Mixero since Mixero supports ETH mixing ^^ As a result, mixers aren't accused of being involved or abetting such illegal activities. They can continue to develop favorably until they find a suitable place in the crypto market.
Based on the Administration’s review of the novel legal and policy issues raised by use of financial sanctions against financial and commercial activity occurring within evolving technology and legal environments, we have exercised our discretion to remove the economic sanctions against Tornado Cash as reflected in Treasury’s Monday filing in Van Loon v. Department of the Treasury.
This really gives mixer more trust and make them more reliable just as what they were even before the Bybit unfortunate incident but I guess with time those scammers should be fished out and they shouldn’t really get the uses of what they stole and shouldn’t get away it. The biggest scam so far in the market. I guess the mixer supports the ETH mixing with a lot of support and commitment and this is what every supports should be and it will really protect the source you supporting.They're not, but fees are higher of course. I don't expect P2P to be cheaper than Binance, that's impossible because their volume are tons of times smaller and they do everything manually, but money talks and I rather save as much as I can.Yeah, we should focus on the services of mixers instead of discussing too much about P2P or the consequences of the Bybit attack. Hackers have many ways to launder the illegal money they've seized. I hope they fail and that money gets frozen and returned to Bybit favorably somehow.
Looking at LocalCoinSwap, they have P2P buying BTC for R$ 469k while Binance pays R$ 486,7k. A difference of 4%, fair enough since some time ago I had to pay a 8% difference, but still...
And we're off topic enough. :P
Luckily, we haven't had any additional allegations related to any other mixers in the market, especially Mixero since Mixero supports ETH mixing ^^ As a result, mixers aren't accused of being involved or abetting such illegal activities. They can continue to develop favorably until they find a suitable place in the crypto market.
They're not, but fees are higher of course. I don't expect P2P to be cheaper than Binance, that's impossible because their volume are tons of times smaller and they do everything manually, but money talks and I rather save as much as I can.Yeah, we should focus on the services of mixers instead of discussing too much about P2P or the consequences of the Bybit attack. Hackers have many ways to launder the illegal money they've seized. I hope they fail and that money gets frozen and returned to Bybit favorably somehow.
Looking at LocalCoinSwap, they have P2P buying BTC for R$ 469k while Binance pays R$ 486,7k. A difference of 4%, fair enough since some time ago I had to pay a 8% difference, but still...
And we're off topic enough. :P
Luckily, we haven't had any additional allegations related to any other mixers in the market, especially Mixero since Mixero supports ETH mixing ^^ As a result, mixers aren't accused of being involved or abetting such illegal activities. They can continue to develop favorably until they find a suitable place in the crypto market.
Speaking of ETH mixing,This is nice and since they have released Tornado's coins, then they should also do the same with Sinbad. And I don't know that Mixero also mix Ethereum coins and I thought it is only Bitcoin. And I just find out that in the coinjoin mixing side, there is no Ethereum stated and it is only bitcoin that is there, and when you click on the advance mixing then you will see the two coins. Image displays them.
https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0057
Fees and low rates are killing p2p popularity the reason why most people prefer to trade directly on exchange p2p since in that market there is central control of how ads are posted and within which price offers get taken.
I don't know what is exact situation in your country, but P2P exchanges I used (localcoinswap, noones, etc) work the same in all countries, they are not targeting or blacklisting Brazil in any way.
I think you just prefer convenience of centralized exchanges, and you didnt do research all alternative options.
I don't think p2p can be used in every situation.
One thing is to deal 1000 usd in p2p
What if you want to trade 1 or 2 btc ? The p2p can even exit scam you.
Also, p2p fees will always be higher than binance. Binance charges about 0.1% fees, a p2p won't ever charge such a small fee. He needs to make money and live, and 0.1% is not enough for his volume.
This is nice and since they have released Tornado's coins, then they should also do the same with Sinbad. And I don't know that Mixero also mix Ethereum coins and I thought it is only Bitcoin. And I just find out that in the coinjoin mixing side, there is no Ethereum stated and it is only bitcoin that is there, and when you click on the advance mixing then you will see the two coins. Image displays them.I was also surprised to see Eth, it's the first time I've seen a mixer that accepts Eth.
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That means this would have been the best crypto mixer in the cryptocurrency ecosystem.
I have seen and worked in a campaign here that accept Ethereum. In fact that mixer was only for Ethereum but I have not seen a mixer that mix bitcoin and other Cryptocurrencies at the same time. Oh yes it is cool because with this you can use Mixero to mix any of the coins of your choice. And I believed why people are not using Eth like that it is because of their transaction fee. Ethereum transaction fee is very high as of early last year and the second quarter of last year and as of then I didn't use it again so I don't know of now.This is nice and since they have released Tornado's coins, then they should also do the same with Sinbad. And I don't know that Mixero also mix Ethereum coins and I thought it is only Bitcoin. And I just find out that in the coinjoin mixing side, there is no Ethereum stated and it is only bitcoin that is there, and when you click on the advance mixing then you will see the two coins. Image displays them.I was also surprised to see Eth, it's the first time I've seen a mixer that accepts Eth.
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That means this would have been the best crypto mixer in the cryptocurrency ecosystem.
It seems that, despite ETH being accepted on the platform, this isn't really advertised by them, it's kind of a hidden feature. But this is really cool, even though I've never used mixers or understood much about them, seeing a mixer that supports Eth, which is the second largest crypto in the world, is really cool.
How come that mixero has been long in this forum and yet majority people don’t know that it supports Eth. I also do not know until now it is being said. I have used mixero in the past, now that I have started to promote them again, I will keep using them again and I will also try the Eth mixing.This is nice and since they have released Tornado's coins, then they should also do the same with Sinbad. And I don't know that Mixero also mix Ethereum coins and I thought it is only Bitcoin. And I just find out that in the coinjoin mixing side, there is no Ethereum stated and it is only bitcoin that is there, and when you click on the advance mixing then you will see the two coins. Image displays them.I was also surprised to see Eth, it's the first time I've seen a mixer that accepts Eth.
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That means this would have been the best crypto mixer in the cryptocurrency ecosystem.
It seems that, despite ETH being accepted on the platform, this isn't really advertised by them, it's kind of a hidden feature. But this is really cool, even though I've never used mixers or understood much about them, seeing a mixer that supports Eth, which is the second largest crypto in the world, is really cool.
How come that mixero has been long in this forum and yet majority people don’t know that it supports Eth. I also do not know until now it is being said. I have used mixero in the past, now that I have started to promote them again, I will keep using them again and I will also try the Eth mixing.This is nice and since they have released Tornado's coins, then they should also do the same with Sinbad. And I don't know that Mixero also mix Ethereum coins and I thought it is only Bitcoin. And I just find out that in the coinjoin mixing side, there is no Ethereum stated and it is only bitcoin that is there, and when you click on the advance mixing then you will see the two coins. Image displays them.I was also surprised to see Eth, it's the first time I've seen a mixer that accepts Eth.
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That means this would have been the best crypto mixer in the cryptocurrency ecosystem.
It seems that, despite ETH being accepted on the platform, this isn't really advertised by them, it's kind of a hidden feature. But this is really cool, even though I've never used mixers or understood much about them, seeing a mixer that supports Eth, which is the second largest crypto in the world, is really cool.
@mate2237, do you know the nature of sinbad mixer case. Was it instituted in a law court and how about chipmixer
Sinbad was taken down as far as I can remember as it has been used by North Korea to mix their hack coins.I didn't know the story behind of that case before. And now that you have shown us the link and I have read it so I am aware of the case. And base of the report from the article it will be very hard for Sinbad to come back. But is that withstanding, Mixero is a reputable mixer and we can all use it. Just the confiscated coins are much there.
https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy1933
And after that news comes out, advertising it in the other community was banned. Unless they try to reinvent themselves again and make Ethereum mixing available.
Mixers might have learn from the past mistakes of their predecessors that's why they really protect themselves from slight allegations that they might be used by the Bybit hackers.I can't guess what a hacker is thinking. They have their own views and beliefs when participating in the market with an extremely special role. Mixers will always be one of their top priorities because they are working very effectively in protecting user anonymity. I didn't dare suggest that the Mixero team temporarily suspend the Mix ETH feature during this tense period, I was afraid of damaging Mixero brand.
Or it's that the hackers might go on other route as they know that Mixers will not be safe for them.
I don't think p2p can be used in every situation.I don't think centralized kyc exchanges can be used in every situation.
One thing is to deal 1000 usd in p2pSure you can do it, I know people who traded much larger amounts using p2p trading, and I can literally find even larger amounts in few minutes.
What if you want to trade 1 or 2 btc ? The p2p can even exit scam you.
Also, p2p fees will always be higher than binance. Binance charges about 0.1% fees, a p2p won't ever charge such a small fee. He needs to make money and live, and 0.1% is not enough for his volume.This is not true, and I don't have to pay any withdrawal fees.
Also, p2p fees will always be higher than binance. Binance charges about 0.1% fees, a p2p won't ever charge such a small fee. He needs to make money and live, and 0.1% is not enough for his volume.This is not true, and I don't have to pay any withdrawal fees.
Why would someone make p2p for free? Less than 0.1% is free.
This makes absolutely no sense.
Unless he isn't a professional and want to buy/sell his stash.
You are probably selling bitcoin for a price like 3% less or paying 3% more and the p2p is saying zero fees. He just changed the fee name for a spread in the price.
Do mixers actually have the technology to detect if a coin is coming from a particular dimension? If Bybit hack is to enter a particular mixer, will they detect and reject it? If no, what then is the basis of their blames from government that they mixer hacked coins or facilitate money laundering.I can say that mixers are innocent sometimes but they might not be able to prove it.xxadd
Mixers might have learn from the past mistakes of their predecessors that's why they really protect themselves from slight allegations that they might be used by the Bybit hackers
Are there so many alternative routes for hackers? Can you mention afew?
Or it's that the hackers might go on other route as they know that Mixers will not be safe for them.
However, similar to mixers, P2P services are for people who want more privacy and don't mind paying a little more for BTC than buying with CEX exchanges that report everything to the government.
In the end, can p2p be considered a trade with a high degree of privacy?However, similar to mixers, P2P services are for people who want more privacy and don't mind paying a little more for BTC than buying with CEX exchanges that report everything to the government.
Yeah, in just now sure how much privacy gains there are really when giving your personal data to strangers instead of an institution such as cex.
There were reports in Brazil os criminals laundering money using p2p in binance, and innocent investors have to be explaining their relationships with those criminals to the police.
You can probably avoid paying taxes that way, but all other risks are huge. I did it 10+ years ago when there were not many solutions and every time it was a vivid experience.
Why would someone make p2p for free? Less than 0.1% is free.Simple. There is no middleman, there are no fees, and you trade directly with other guy who want's to sell or buy bitcoin.
This makes absolutely no sense.
You are probably selling bitcoin for a price like 3% less or paying 3% more and the p2p is saying zero fees. He just changed the fee name for a spread in the price.Again, this is NOT TRUE, market values are used.
In the end, can p2p be considered a trade with a high degree of privacy?How do you think so many people aer using things like PeachBitcoin every day?
You can probably avoid paying taxes that way, but all other risks are huge. I did it 10+ years ago when there were not many solutions and every time it was a vivid experience.
In Brazil the p2p operator may decide the declare the operation to the tax authority, so you are never really sure you can avoid taxes by using p2p.I don't think anyone can avoid tax when using p2p in the cryptocurrency world because every exchange mostly the centralized exchanges are heavily control and taxed by the government and in return the Exchanges transfer the taxes they paid to the government to the customers so the customers paid the taxes for them and not them again.
Avoiding taxes using p2p would definitely involve trust in the p2p operator.
It doesn't have to be with strangers. When doing business with a P2P, it has to be with a trustworthy and reputable one on platforms like Bisq, Hodl Hodl, etc.
Yeah, in just now sure how much privacy gains there are really when giving your personal data to strangers instead of an institution such as cex.
There were reports in Brazil os criminals laundering money using p2p in binance, and innocent investors have to be explaining their relationships with those criminals to the police.I'll read about it later. I've never used P2P on Binance.
Why would someone make p2p for free? Less than 0.1% is free.Simple. There is no middleman, there are no fees, and you trade directly with other guy who want's to sell or buy bitcoin.
This makes absolutely no sense.
You don't need to be a scientist to understand this.
You are probably selling bitcoin for a price like 3% less or paying 3% more and the p2p is saying zero fees. He just changed the fee name for a spread in the price.Again, this is NOT TRUE, market values are used.
Sorry, but you clearly know very little about p2p trading :P
I don't do business with P2P sellers who ask for KYC, because that's one of the main reasons why most people prefer P2Ps over exchanges. If I have to do KYC, I'll use an exchange, which will be the same.
Whenever you send or received fiat currency in Brazil, your personal data is shared with the other party. He has your cpf and that is all he needs to declare to tax authorities.I used to be a p2p trader too in the LBC era, and I can relate with the KYC part. When dealing with fiat there's a lot more risk involved like charge backs or funds coming from illicit sources or even hacked bank accounts so I don't trade with just random users, only with the verified users and as you said the price will be premium for such kind of p2p deals.
In other words: you always do kyc when making p2p if fiat currency is involved.
Has anyone had problems with exchanges freezing their balance or imposing restrictions, like requesting additional KYC after using a mixer and then sending the mixed funds to an exchange? That's my biggest fear.Each service has its own method for calculating risk, or what's known as an AML score, and some even use it as a pretext for fraud and theft. Therefore, there's no fixed rule. However, as long as your currency has a low AML score (less than 20%), you'll be safe. The easiest option is to avoid centralized services that may have such policies.
The same applies when withdrawing BTC from an exchange to my self-custody wallet, then sending it to a mixer like Mixero and finally sending it back to my own wallet. But how can I take the necessary precautions to avoid problems when moving post-mixed funds, preventing any explanations or restrictions?
Each service has its own method for calculating risk, or what's known as an AML score, and some even use it as a pretext for fraud and theft. Therefore, there's no fixed rule. However, as long as your currency has a low AML score (less than 20%), you'll be safe. The easiest option is to avoid centralized services that may have such policies.Thanks, I've seen reports of people running into issues. Maybe it's better to send mixed funds directly to exchanges and split transactions into steps, moving funds between addresses in my own wallet first to reduce linkage risks
If anyone is trying to avoid taxation through p2p, it is possible because of the nature of their country's laws. Different countries have different policies regarding crypto and taxation. If there are ways to avoid tax by p2p, share to us. But it is right that every law abiding citizen of a country to pay tax.In Brazil the p2p operator may decide the declare the operation to the tax authority, so you are never really sure you can avoid taxes by using p2p.I don't think anyone can avoid tax when using p2p in the cryptocurrency world because every exchange mostly the centralized exchanges are heavily control and taxed by the government and in return the Exchanges transfer the taxes they paid to the government to the customers so the customers paid the taxes for them and not them again.
Avoiding taxes using p2p would definitely involve trust in the p2p operator.
So every users of centralized exchanges pay tax. In Nigeria, from 2022 to early 2023, we were not paying tax in exchange it was when Binance and some exchange started to manipulate the dollar against the local currency by inflating the price in the exchange rate and the government discovered it and started bringing their policies against the Exchanges and taxed them and they transferred the taxes to the uses of exchange.
If anyone is trying to avoid taxation through p2p, it is possible because of the nature of their country's laws. Different countries have different policies regarding crypto and taxation. If there are ways to avoid tax by p2p, share to us. But it is right that every law abiding citizen of a country to pay tax.brazil's tax authority is cracking down on Bitcoin users and they've no problem creating or adapting laws that destroy privacy to achieve this. A government like this doesn't deserve the ridiculous amount of taxes it collects when it provides no return for the people, especially for the poor who end up paying the most taxes precisely because they're the weakest link.
If someone needs a tax free transactions, a decentralized exchange is a better option.You are right, like using DEX like Bisq.
brazil's tax authority is cracking down on Bitcoin users and they've no problem creating or adapting laws that destroy privacy to achieve this. A government like this doesn't deserve the ridiculous amount of taxes it collects when it provides no return for the people, especially for the poor who end up paying the most taxes precisely because they're the weakest link.
You are right, like using DEX like Bisq.That would have been the best option but there is no decentralized exchanges like the way centralized exchanges do which make things easy for everyone to used. Even bisq is not for everyone because those who are using Android phones can't use it because the software only work in computer. And even the computer it is Linux OS.
But the best way to escape government surveillance is to operate without banks and PIX which are monitored.
Each service has its own method for calculating risk, or what's known as an AML score, and some even use it as a pretext for fraud and theft. Therefore, there's no fixed rule. However, as long as your currency has a low AML score (less than 20%), you'll be safe. The easiest option is to avoid centralized services that may have such policies.Thanks, I've seen reports of people running into issues. Maybe it's better to send mixed funds directly to exchanges and split transactions into steps, moving funds between addresses in my own wallet first to reduce linkage risks
Apart from income tax which is deducted from every deposited fund, cryptocurrency trading most especially through p2p most likely overcomes tax implications by default and that is the reason why most countries around the world see cryptocurrency trading and transactions as tax invasion so for sure we ought to balance ourselves with that reality and act along with the acceptable format that works with our unique countries and their tax law most especially those that are related to cryptocurrency exchange.If anyone is trying to avoid taxation through p2p, it is possible because of the nature of their country's laws. Different countries have different policies regarding crypto and taxation. If there are ways to avoid tax by p2p, share to us. But it is right that every law abiding citizen of a country to pay tax.In Brazil the p2p operator may decide the declare the operation to the tax authority, so you are never really sure you can avoid taxes by using p2p.I don't think anyone can avoid tax when using p2p in the cryptocurrency world because every exchange mostly the centralized exchanges are heavily control and taxed by the government and in return the Exchanges transfer the taxes they paid to the government to the customers so the customers paid the taxes for them and not them again.
Avoiding taxes using p2p would definitely involve trust in the p2p operator.
So every users of centralized exchanges pay tax. In Nigeria, from 2022 to early 2023, we were not paying tax in exchange it was when Binance and some exchange started to manipulate the dollar against the local currency by inflating the price in the exchange rate and the government discovered it and started bringing their policies against the Exchanges and taxed them and they transferred the taxes to the uses of exchange.
If someone needs a tax free transactions, a decentralized exchange is a better option.
It is worrisome how the weak pay more of the taxes. I have heard the allegations for long but I took my time somes year ago to conduct the research, the result affirmed the claim. The rich has means to avoid taxes, either by directly bribing the taxation institutions, or they institute false gifting in the name of charity to evade taxes.If anyone is trying to avoid taxation through p2p, it is possible because of the nature of their country's laws. Different countries have different policies regarding crypto and taxation. If there are ways to avoid tax by p2p, share to us. But it is right that every law abiding citizen of a country to pay tax.brazil's tax authority is cracking down on Bitcoin users and they've no problem creating or adapting laws that destroy privacy to achieve this. A government like this doesn't deserve the ridiculous amount of taxes it collects when it provides no return for the people, especially for the poor who end up paying the most taxes precisely because they're the weakest link.
This is exactly why Bitcoin, mixers and coinjoins exist, they're tools to protect our assets and privacy.QuoteIf someone needs a tax free transactions, a decentralized exchange is a better option.You are right, like using DEX like Bisq.
But the best way to escape government surveillance is to operate without banks and PIX which are monitored.
After seeing exch trying to protect it's business from any potential scam artists cloning it's serv, how does Mixero handle such because I don't think nobody hasn't tried to phish for money.
In addition, it's important to favorite exchange services, avoid clicking on suspicious links, not installing anything suspicious or checking the gpg signature beforehand. These actions, in addition to keeping your PC/Laptop safe, will cause less private data to be leaked and will make your computer safe.After seeing exch trying to protect it's business from any potential scam artists cloning it's serv, how does Mixero handle such because I don't think nobody hasn't tried to phish for money.It is arguably not as big of a problem with most mixers as it is with eXch, as they've become a high-profile target for this kind of stuff recently.
But as long as you bookmark your mixer links or use a bitcoin mixer list, then phishing should not be encountered.
You've got people living in favelas and having no other choice but to turn to organized crime, while this government is busy making more taxes, more taxes, and more taxes.Despite heavy taxation, the brazilian people maintains strong productivity and innovation. I often wonder what would brazil look like without all these corrupt, idiot politicians? We could have become a powerhouse rivaling China. This is exactly why people are becoming increasingly anti-government. Bitcoin and technology are emerging as tools for individual empowerment. The growing number of people embracing Bitcoin is no joke.
Maybe someone should audit them and see where all this money is going because it sure as hell ain't going to the economy.
I once read about a case where users who make BTC deposits are rejected by the intended exchange for several reasons.Thanks for the insight, I'd like to try this feature someday for testing purposes.
I think it would be better to send Bitcoin Mixing results to your wallet first before forwarding them to an exchange. If you want to send BTC from the mixer service to an exchange, you can activate the Clean Coins option as provided by Mixero (https://mixero.io/mix_advanced (https://mixero.io/mix_advanced)).
Each service has its own method for calculating risk, or what's known as an AML score, and some even use it as a pretext for fraud and theft. Therefore, there's no fixed rule. However, as long as your currency has a low AML score (less than 20%), you'll be safe. The easiest option is to avoid centralized services that may have such policies.Thanks, I've seen reports of people running into issues. Maybe it's better to send mixed funds directly to exchanges and split transactions into steps, moving funds between addresses in my own wallet first to reduce linkage risks
I once read about a case where users who make BTC deposits are rejected by the intended exchange for several reasons.
That's the best method to do it now because most of the exchanges when they received the deposit, they see it as a suspected or money laundering and confiscated the account. So the best way is to mix the coins to non custodial wallet and send it from there.So I do agree, we should practice to at least after a mix, deposit it to a wallet like Electrum before sending it to an exchange. Also there is still the issue of tainted, but I don't know for me, I don't care about tainted coins, as I believed that most coins that are still circulating should still be good and legit.SnipSnipSnip
Yes, and it only shows that we really don't have control if we're going to deposit to a 3rd party. Although I haven't experience it yet, but there were times that I have done it my mistake. Although my account wasn't ban as perhaps it was not that big amount be flag by that exchanges, still though there were anxious moments when I realized what I have done. So moving forward, I'm very careful when I deposited to any exchange, local or top tier.That's the best method to do it now because most of the exchanges when they received the deposit, they see it as a suspected or money laundering and confiscated the account. So the best way is to mix the coins to non custodial wallet and send it from there.So I do agree, we should practice to at least after a mix, deposit it to a wallet like Electrum before sending it to an exchange. Also there is still the issue of tainted, but I don't know for me, I don't care about tainted coins, as I believed that most coins that are still circulating should still be good and legit.SnipSnipSnip
With that I think the risking of the account to be blocked because of the deposit from the mixer will be reduced.
It would be even better if, before sending to your self-custody wallet like electrum, you used a wallet connected to your full node or Electrum server. When you broadcast transactions through your own server, you won't have that nagging suspicion about whether some Chainalysis server might be spying on you.
If I'm not mistaken, it could have been Binance or Coinbase (I might be wrong though) that rejected it or confiscated the BTC after depositing.
So I do agree, we should practice to at least after a mix, deposit it to a wallet like Electrum before sending it to an exchange. Also there is still the issue of tainted, but I don't know for me, I don't care about tainted coins, as I believed that most coins that are still circulating should still be good and legit.
I once read about a case where users who make BTC deposits are rejected by the intended exchange for several reasons.I think it is because of the government attacks on exchanges those resistance and rejections are happening because I had sent bitcoin from a mixer directly to a exchange and everything went smoothly without issue but now everything has changed.
I think it would be better to send Bitcoin Mixing results to your wallet first before forwarding them to an exchange. If you want to send BTC from the mixer service to an exchange, you can activate the Clean Coins option as provided by Mixero (https://mixero.io/mix_advanced (https://mixero.io/mix_advanced)).
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------------At the moment, there is no better DEX option other than Bisq, there is no mobile version due to the difficulty of implementing a P2P system, it's difficult to do at right now.
That is the whole problem the cryptocurrency ecosystem market is facing right now and I don't know all the developers can't create a very nice decentralized exchanges for p2p. And I strongly believed those who created electrum and blue Wallets can develop decentralized exchanges for this purpose.------------At the moment, there is no better DEX option other than Bisq, there is no mobile version due to the difficulty of implementing a P2P system, it's difficult to do at right now.
By the way, is anyone using Bisq here? I haven't used it for a long time.
------------At the moment, there is no better DEX option other than Bisq, there is no mobile version due to the difficulty of implementing a P2P system, it's difficult to do at right now.
By the way, is anyone using Bisq here? I haven't used it for a long time.
Apart from low liquidity, there are other attributes that make DEXs not beginners friendly such as; the UI/UX not being friendly. Also, an average Jeo needs the knowledge of signing signatures and executing contracts in order to use DEX. Beginners might struggle to use it and from there they could be easily scammed.------------At the moment, there is no better DEX option other than Bisq, there is no mobile version due to the difficulty of implementing a P2P system, it's difficult to do at right now.
By the way, is anyone using Bisq here? I haven't used it for a long time.
Way back I used DEX a lot, but I guess the same problem with what others have been experiencing that's why I stay away from them.
So most likely this is also the case for those who have been heavy around 2017-2018 and did try to experience with DEX. But I guess the disadvantage like low liquidity and very complicated for a beginner that makes DEX not a best option for us.
That is the whole problem the cryptocurrency ecosystem market is facing right now and I don't know all the developers can't create a very nice decentralized exchanges for p2p. And I strongly believed those who created electrum and blue Wallets can develop decentralized exchanges for this purpose.The convenience of buying BTC on a CEX, along with higher liquidity and better rates, makes CEX exchanges more attractive even with KYC requirements.
And the day when good decentralized exchanges will be developed in the crypto market, many things will change and things will take a new shape. Bisq installation progress too is too hard.
But if we want to change this, we need more and more people to support decentralized platforms like Bisq. The more people join, the greater the liquidity and better competitiveness in relation to CEX prices.
Many of them don't see completing identity verification as a problem.
Those people that don't care about privacy and they want to verify their accounts in the exchange and use it to trade p2p since the decentralized exchanges are not user friendly, they have to use the centralized exchanges for easy transactions. So submitting documents for verification is is not an issue for them because they just need something that they can use for their trading successful.Many of them don't see completing identity verification as a problem.
Depends on who you ask.
Many people have documents that are not going to be accepted by the exchange because they don't request the specified format (full legal name on supported identification document, and full address on some sort of bill or legal agreement).
The problem is that these KYC checks are becoming more and more invasive, in any case, each exchange makes its own rules and the market will reward the best. I generally don't mind doing KYC, as long as it's simple, easy and fast. Some exchanges are asking for KYC via video. ???Those people that don't care about privacy and they want to verify their accounts in the exchange and use it to trade p2p since the decentralized exchanges are not user friendly, they have to use the centralized exchanges for easy transactions. So submitting documents for verification is is not an issue for them because they just need something that they can use for their trading successful.Many of them don't see completing identity verification as a problem.
Depends on who you ask.
Many people have documents that are not going to be accepted by the exchange because they don't request the specified format (full legal name on supported identification document, and full address on some sort of bill or legal agreement).
And we have to question though how they are going to handled our personal info? Are they getting a 3rd party to do all that KYC and if so, then they don't have the power about those data as a hack on that 3rd party could reveal all our personal information to the dark web and it could be sold as well. So there are also cons of this KYC, that's why we still want to preserve our anonymity as some point and then uses a Bitcoin Mixer to hide all the trails.The problem is that these KYC checks are becoming more and more invasive, in any case, each exchange makes its own rules and the market will reward the best. I generally don't mind doing KYC, as long as it's simple, easy and fast. Some exchanges are asking for KYC via video. ???Those people that don't care about privacy and they want to verify their accounts in the exchange and use it to trade p2p since the decentralized exchanges are not user friendly, they have to use the centralized exchanges for easy transactions. So submitting documents for verification is is not an issue for them because they just need something that they can use for their trading successful.Many of them don't see completing identity verification as a problem.
Depends on who you ask.
Many people have documents that are not going to be accepted by the exchange because they don't request the specified format (full legal name on supported identification document, and full address on some sort of bill or legal agreement).
Apart from low liquidity, there are other attributes that make DEXs not beginners friendly such as; the UI/UX not being friendly. Also, an average Jeo needs the knowledge of signing signatures and executing contracts in order to use DEX. Beginners might struggle to use it and from there they could be easily scammed.------------At the moment, there is no better DEX option other than Bisq, there is no mobile version due to the difficulty of implementing a P2P system, it's difficult to do at right now.
By the way, is anyone using Bisq here? I haven't used it for a long time.
Way back I used DEX a lot, but I guess the same problem with what others have been experiencing that's why I stay away from them.
So most likely this is also the case for those who have been heavy around 2017-2018 and did try to experience with DEX. But I guess the disadvantage like low liquidity and very complicated for a beginner that makes DEX not a best option for us.
But because of it difficulty of the User Interface (UI) and the User Experience (UX) people can't use it often and when I wanted to use Best-Exchange. The User Interface even discouraged me because I don't even understand anything there. And the DEX which would have been better for beginners friendly is Bisq exchange but only on desktop and doesn't work in Windows Operating System.
I think with the UI/UX we can all learn from that if we are going to used it more often. But I do agree that it's not a beginner friendly and you really have to go to certain process. But still though, the curve might not take time for you to get.
But with no liquidity then how can you stay on that platform? So in turn this is the major turn off for even the most experience crypto enthusiast out there.
I personally noticed that kyc passing kyc verification on large exchanges like Binance, bybit and the rest are way much easier than doing same on a smaller exchange.The problem is that these KYC checks are becoming more and more invasive, in any case, each exchange makes its own rules and the market will reward the best. I generally don't mind doing KYC, as long as it's simple, easy and fast. Some exchanges are asking for KYC via video. ???Those people that don't care about privacy and they want to verify their accounts in the exchange and use it to trade p2p since the decentralized exchanges are not user friendly, they have to use the centralized exchanges for easy transactions. So submitting documents for verification is is not an issue for them because they just need something that they can use for their trading successful.Many of them don't see completing identity verification as a problem.
Depends on who you ask.
Many people have documents that are not going to be accepted by the exchange because they don't request the specified format (full legal name on supported identification document, and full address on some sort of bill or legal agreement).
Yes i also think many people are not get verified in different Exchanger because of proper documents. Either name, birth date, or proper address. Who are submitted proper documents i believe he has been passed his KYC.Many of them don't see completing identity verification as a problem.
Depends on who you ask.
Many people have documents that are not going to be accepted by the exchange because they don't request the specified format (full legal name on supported identification document, and full address on some sort of bill or legal agreement).
For KYC verification in Centralized Exchanges, there are two major stages or level. In level one, you only input your real name and other personal information then the second stage or level is the main documentation stage where you select your means of identification and insert the ID number and upload it and also do the selfie to confirm your face. And now why some people KYC are rejected because some Centralized Exchanges asked the two side of the ID Card, and which means you have to Scan or snap the two sides of the ID card while some are only the front site and they don't asked for the back side of the ID card. So so.e users have the ID card that has only the front side. In my country if you registered your ID card, it is only the one that has the front side without the back side would be issued to you unless you go back to the office and reprint it again. So most of us have only the one that contains the front side. And many exchanges rejecting that.Yes i also think many people are not get verified in different Exchanger because of proper documents. Either name, birth date, or proper address. Who are submitted proper documents i believe he has been passed his KYC.Many of them don't see completing identity verification as a problem.
Depends on who you ask.
Many people have documents that are not going to be accepted by the exchange because they don't request the specified format (full legal name on supported identification document, and full address on some sort of bill or legal agreement).
Yes you got exact point to verify KYC also need billing copy which is created by users own name. If we unable to provide that then our KYC being unverified.
Yes i also think many people are not get verified in different Exchanger because of proper documents. Either name, birth date, or proper address. Who are submitted proper documents i believe he has been passed his KYC.I don't know for others centralized exchanges KYC is not hard as gambling websites. If the customer has all the needed documents then KYC is very smooth and instant used. And all what they need is that the registered real full name must tally with the name in the ID Card and the password on the ID must tally with the selfie face. And once those KYC is processed, everything is set to be used.
Yes you got exact point to verify KYC also need billing copy which is created by users own name. If we unable to provide that then our KYC being unverified.
As for my experience passing documents, there are instance that I would be denied the first time. And so I will have to submit again and again with the same documents in order to pass. So I'm not sure what's with my documents that they have denied it the first time. But when I try to do it accept they are going to accept it. I haven't got into submitting billing copy though, only permanent residence ID for me.Yes i also think many people are not get verified in different Exchanger because of proper documents. Either name, birth date, or proper address. Who are submitted proper documents i believe he has been passed his KYC.Many of them don't see completing identity verification as a problem.
Depends on who you ask.
Many people have documents that are not going to be accepted by the exchange because they don't request the specified format (full legal name on supported identification document, and full address on some sort of bill or legal agreement).
Yes you got exact point to verify KYC also need billing copy which is created by users own name. If we unable to provide that then our KYC being unverified.
I have done KYC on several exchanges, it's very tiring, because sometimes they deny it, so I saved the pictures I took of my ID, as well as proof of residence and a selfie holding the document.I am also supporting those who are agitating or asking for decentralized exchanges to come and take over the exchange system and we all waiting for the first best friendly decentralized exchange to launch in the crypto market. Really centralized exchanges are frustrating people in their services.
So if I need to do KYC on a new exchange platform, etc. I just send the saved files.
But you can use bisq for decentralized P2P transactions, right? Speaking of which, it made me want to install and test bisq1 again, even though it's not as advantageous as using CEX. I haven't used bisq for transactions since 2019.I have done KYC on several exchanges, it's very tiring, because sometimes they deny it, so I saved the pictures I took of my ID, as well as proof of residence and a selfie holding the document.I am also supporting those who are agitating or asking for decentralized exchanges to come and take over the exchange system and we all waiting for the first best friendly decentralized exchange to launch in the crypto market. Really centralized exchanges are frustrating people in their services.
So if I need to do KYC on a new exchange platform, etc. I just send the saved files.
And the worse part right now is that when you mix coins directly to their exchange address, they would block the account, and frustrate you with many updates and if you failed to or mistakenly update a wrong information they will permanently blocked the account and you will loss everything in the exchange.
I saw today that the crypto exchange eXch announced that it will shut down on May 1 due to money laundering allegations. What do you think about this?Unless there is a connection between eXch and Mixero, I think the discussion here will be off-topic.
Let's leave the discussion about exchanges in this thread, after all, it is the service ANN of Mixero.io mixer.Thanks for this observation. I have read through the discussion above and they are just centred on exchanges. Let's retract to mixero
Even earlier, the Mixero team announced the implementation of the affiliate program. Can we get some information about the status of this potential feature, or has it been abandoned?How will this be achieved without storing people's data?
I used xmr to delay for two hours, but now it's been three hours and I still haven't received the funds. What happened?Let's leave the discussion about exchanges in this thread, after all, it is the service ANN of Mixero.io mixer.Thanks for this observation. I have read through the discussion above and they are just centred on exchanges. Let's retract to mixeroEven earlier, the Mixero team announced the implementation of the affiliate program. Can we get some information about the status of this potential feature, or has it been abandoned?How will this be achieved without storing people's data?
Is anyone here? Is everything functioning properly? Is anyone here? Is everything functioning properly?
But you can use bisq for decentralized P2P transactions, right? Speaking of which, it made me want to install and test bisq1 again, even though it's not as advantageous as using CEX. I haven't used bisq for transactions since 2019.I have done KYC on several exchanges, it's very tiring, because sometimes they deny it, so I saved the pictures I took of my ID, as well as proof of residence and a selfie holding the document.I am also supporting those who are agitating or asking for decentralized exchanges to come and take over the exchange system and we all waiting for the first best friendly decentralized exchange to launch in the crypto market. Really centralized exchanges are frustrating people in their services.
So if I need to do KYC on a new exchange platform, etc. I just send the saved files.
And the worse part right now is that when you mix coins directly to their exchange address, they would block the account, and frustrate you with many updates and if you failed to or mistakenly update a wrong information they will permanently blocked the account and you will loss everything in the exchange.
Are you here? I'm having some difficulty. I mixed the xmr function and it was delayed for two hours. But now it's been three hours and I haven't received the funds yet.
I used xmr to delay for two hours, but now it's been three hours and I still haven't received the funds. What happened?Probably the same thing as the previous time when you panicked here because the mixing process did not end immediately. Be patient, and it is enough to ask a question once; there is no need to spam with the same question. It certainly won't speed up your order.
Are you here? I'm having some difficulty. I mixed the xmr function and it was delayed for two hours. But now it's been three hours and I haven't received the funds yet.
Yes I'm sorry for posting too much because the delay today was a bit long lol I mixed about 20k+ I always use your service I think it's good yesterday the funds didn't arrive just a little worried lol now all the problems are solved I successfully received the fundsAre you here? I'm having some difficulty. I mixed the xmr function and it was delayed for two hours. But now it's been three hours and I haven't received the funds yet.
I remember you and looking through your message history I saw that you were worried about the same thing in December
The service is working normally, there's nothing going on, just wait and you'll receive your funds
Remember to come back and comment when you've received it
Yes I'm sorry for posting too much because the delay today was a bit long lol I mixed about 20k+ I always use your service I think it's good yesterday the funds didn't arrive just a little worried lol now all the problems are solved I successfully received the fundsHii, I saw that you sent me a PM, but unfortunately I didn't have time to respond in time. Apparently, the situation has already been resolved, which is great, we just had to wait for the Mixing to be completed, which can sometimes take a while.
Yes I'm sorry for posting too much because the delay today was a bit long lol I mixed about 20k+ I always use your service I think it's good yesterday the funds didn't arrive just a little worried lol now all the problems are solved I successfully received the fundsAre you here? I'm having some difficulty. I mixed the xmr function and it was delayed for two hours. But now it's been three hours and I haven't received the funds yet.
I remember you and looking through your message history I saw that you were worried about the same thing in December
The service is working normally, there's nothing going on, just wait and you'll receive your funds
Remember to come back and comment when you've received it
Yes I'm sorry for posting too much because the delay today was a bit long lol I mixed about 20k+ I always use your service I think it's good yesterday the funds didn't arrive just a little worried lol now all the problems are solved I successfully received the fundsAre you here? I'm having some difficulty. I mixed the xmr function and it was delayed for two hours. But now it's been three hours and I haven't received the funds yet.
I remember you and looking through your message history I saw that you were worried about the same thing in December
The service is working normally, there's nothing going on, just wait and you'll receive your funds
Remember to come back and comment when you've received it
Great to hear that everything worked out, thanks for letting us knowPerhaps the value of the coins being mixed is substantial, creating psychological pressure on @soul1234. If I were in his position, I might also go around and constantly inquire about the status of the mixing order I was executing. It's good that everything is fine and the user achieved their goal.
Next time don't worry
It's a bit difficult to have recommendations from all users who make a transaction for privacy reasons, many don't want to be exposed or really need the privacy of the mixer, but the topic is active here and is public for everyone to ask or question something
Perhaps the value of the coins being mixed is substantial, creating psychological pressure on @soul1234. If I were in his position, I might also go around and constantly inquire about the status of the mixing order I was executing. It's good that everything is fine and the user achieved their goal.You make a great point, but soul1234 doesn't seem related to anyone's real identity or like something that could enable information triangulation just from a forum nickname and posts.. unless he are sharing personal life details. Still, what you mentioned is definitely possible.
I hope that the discussion in this topic does not negatively impact the anonymity of Mixero users, meaning that users identities will not be traced and determined through the content of the discussion here. On the positive side, we have another example of the Mixers usage experience for other users to refer to as soon as they encounter similar issues in the future.
Perhaps the value of the coins being mixed is substantial, creating psychological pressure on @soul1234. If I were in his position, I might also go around and constantly inquire about the status of the mixing order I was executing. It's good that everything is fine and the user achieved their goal.
I hope that the discussion in this topic does not negatively impact the anonymity of Mixero users, meaning that users identities will not be traced and determined through the content of the discussion here. On the positive side, we have another example of the Mixers usage experience for other users to refer to as soon as they encounter similar issues in the future.
“Crypto was the object of money laundering and financing crime. They used this intermediation of crypto because it was very easy: you bought an asset and could transfer it from anywhere and in any way 24/7. Organized crime realized this and started using crypto for this purpose. That's why a lot of people back then said that 'crypto is for criminals, crypto is dangerous'”.
"What we see today is large amounts of crypto data being used for the purpose of money laundering and financing crime — that exists. And, from the moment you facilitate exits, without regulation or monitoring, you start to have risk. When you go to a large scale, for cross-border payments, it has to be monitored more closely so that you maintain good use. So the concern in general is how we are going to do this in a way that does not limit the technology, but also allows monitoring of what is happening within these cases of abuse", he concluded.
Obviously, most people would also panic if they transferred at least hundreds of dollars to a service, it hasn't gotten activated yet, and support did not respond in a timely manner. I think it's pretty normal, and all will be resolved when Mixero replies on this thread to the user.When looking to transfer a large value of crypto assets, for example, thousands of $, investors should try transferring $ first to better understand how the service will operate. Similarly, users of mixers can also try mixing a small amount of BTC, for example, 0.002 BTC, to get a feel for it before mixing 250 BTC ^^