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Title: Do we really need the chatbox?
Post by: yahoo62278 on February 02, 2024, 05:24:33 PM
I've been a little chatty in the box but no regularly. I do try to go back and read what everyone might have written since my last login, but half the time there is less than 10 new chats in there.

I also noticed that when people start asking questions in the chatbox, the admin would prefer they make a thread.

If the chatbox wasn't there, then everyone would make a thread right? Or would they just stay ignorant on whatever subject they're curious about?

What does everyone else think? It's ok but not many use it and admin has to clear it almost daily. Post opinions please
Title: Re: Do we really need the chatbox?
Post by: MrSpasybo on February 02, 2024, 05:42:00 PM
If the chatbox wasn't there, then everyone would make a thread right? Or would they just stay ignorant on whatever subject they're curious about?
I think Chatbox is a useful utility for forums.
It replaces Telegram group chat very well, everyone can directly write on it when there is an important issue and needs the fastest answer possible.

Encouraging the creation of new topics has two reasons:
1. The issue is too complex and requires detailed discussion and a lot of information. Chatbox is not the place to provide long and difficult to follow content.
2. If the issue is common, a topic can archive what the community has discussed and other members can refer to it to solve similar problems in the future.

At least, Chatbox is the fastest way that a member can interact with all members on the forum, including admin!
Title: Re: Do we really need the chatbox?
Post by: Lucius on February 02, 2024, 05:44:10 PM
I am not a person who would use the chat for any serious things (discussions), but it seems to me that the chat would be more for some other things, such as some ordinary user chats like small conversations on the topic "how are we doing today", "what did you have for breakfast" or "happy birthday to a member".

Of course, this does not mean that someone cannot use the chat to write something of great importance and urgency, such as "the forum has been hacked, change your passwords".

I think the chat makes sense, but again that's just my opinion...
Title: Re: Do we really need the chatbox?
Post by: admin on February 02, 2024, 05:46:42 PM
The chat is not really for making long discussions
It creates lag when there are a lot of chat.
You can see the chat in my opinion, as a form of community bonding and light form of support.
Not a way to get a specific opinion about something.

If there is no chat, lazy people would create a post, those less lazy would actually look for the answer
Title: Re: Do we really need the chatbox?
Post by: examplens on February 02, 2024, 05:51:52 PM
In my opinion, it is not necessary, but it is also not a bad function to have. For some short discussions, it's ok, easier than sending a PM to the admin for every little thing, for example. I got a response from him several times on the chatbox and I didn't need to open a new thread or send a PM.

I hope that by increasing the activity on the forum it will not be overcrowded with nonsense. If ten users say "Hello", or "Good morning" it will turn into a useless thing.

What does everyone else think? It's ok but not many use it and admin has to clear it almost daily. Post opinions please

Chat history clears it as part of maintenance. Chatbox slows down the site a bit because it needs to be loaded completely (probably that's why regular cleaning)
Title: Re: Do we really need the chatbox?
Post by: yahoo62278 on February 02, 2024, 05:56:59 PM
Some good opinions so far. There is no right and wrong answer, just thought a healthy discussion on the topic would be nice.
Title: Re: Do we really need the chatbox?
Post by: admin on February 02, 2024, 06:20:26 PM
Also it adds a bit more transparency.
Title: Re: Do we really need the chatbox?
Post by: dkbit98 on February 02, 2024, 07:22:38 PM
The chat is not really for making long discussions
Than don't put it on top of the page if you don't want people to use it all the time.
I would move it to the bottom (or to the side as hidden side menu) and set it to auto-delete every 24-48 hours.


Also it adds a bit more transparency.
I don't understand how exactly when history is constantly being deleted.[/size]
Title: Re: Do we really need the chatbox?
Post by: admin on February 02, 2024, 08:39:18 PM
The chat is not really for making long discussions
Than don't put it on top of the page if you don't want people to use it all the time.
I would move it to the bottom (or to the side as hidden side menu) and set it to auto-delete every 24-48 hours.


Also it adds a bit more transparency.
I don't understand how exactly when history is constantly being deleted.[/size]

I would recommend you tune down your aggressivity a bit. Negative karma is often given for aggressive replies.
We are a bit more shill here ....
Things are how they are. I am not going to change everything in the forum to satisfy every single taste. I am open for suggestions and do implement a lot of them.
Transparency is being able to address topics in front of others.
Title: Re: Do we really need the chatbox?
Post by: Faisal2202 on February 02, 2024, 10:13:53 PM
The chat is not really for making long discussions
It creates lag when there are a lot of chat.
You can see the chat in my opinion, as a form of community bonding and light form of support.
Not a way to get a specific opinion about something.

If there is no chat, lazy people would create a post, those less lazy would actually look for the answer
Opps I just asked a question and I am lazy enough that I did not even search for that topic and asked for it on chat, hehe. Well, I found this method better, because that way my chat is exposed to almost every reader and the chances of getting good answers increases. Plus in this chat, we get the exact answer to our short questions even of long questions. I have asked many questions in the chat and almost you or other members replied to me in one or 2 lines.

I like this chatbox very much I even wish there was one on BTT also. I like how it is not very messy with long conversations, as it shows the most recent messages and if you are looking for the answer to your question you have to check again to see if you got any replies. This feature is awesome and it should stay forever.
Title: Re: Do we really need the chatbox?
Post by: Zed0X on February 02, 2024, 11:44:59 PM
I've used the chat box to catch the attention of the admin for a quick response. It can be used to expedite your request and one example of that is asking to pin a particular thread because I think it deserves to be at the top of the board.
Title: Re: Do we really need the chatbox?
Post by: ZAINmalik75 on February 03, 2024, 03:36:46 AM
I've been a little chatty in the box but no regularly. I do try to go back and read what everyone might have written since my last login, but half the time there is less than 10 new chats in there.

I also noticed that when people start asking questions in the chatbox, the admin would prefer they make a thread.

If the chatbox wasn't there, then everyone would make a thread right? Or would they just stay ignorant on whatever subject they're curious about?

What does everyone else think? It's ok but not many use it and admin has to clear it almost daily. Post opinions please
I saw what you are trying to convey here, but please do understand that when the admin says to someone that this question is not suitable for this chat and you should create a topic then there would be 3 reasons for that.

I like the chatbox feature it is quick and helpful to ask short questions, because sometimes we have to make topics for that question which is only one line long.
Title: Re: Do we really need the chatbox?
Post by: Crwth on February 03, 2024, 08:53:04 AM
I think threads are what make the forum a forum and they could be referenced when something is needed to be linked or something. It makes it easier.

For me, the purpose of chatbox is just random discussions that might not necessarily need a topic but it provides an easier way to be answered quickly. Making it feel like there's actual engagement and not just posts in a forum. Maybe networking as well.
Title: Re: Do we really need the chatbox?
Post by: hugeblack on February 03, 2024, 10:00:07 AM
There is an option at the top to hide Altt Chat or hide some boards, and although I have hidden them, I see it as a good feature. It just deserves to be at the bottom of the main page and at the top of discussions boards, or at least there should be an option to put it at the bottom or the top.
Title: Re: Do we really need the chatbox?
Post by: SamReomo on February 03, 2024, 10:22:55 AM
I personally don't use that chatbox a lot but I think it's a useful tool to have some general conversation with the community. Some people don't like to send PM's to others and for those people I believe chatbox can be much useful.

We don't really need to make threads for saying hello or good morning to someone, and for such things chatbox works like a charm I guess. I think the chat box should remain as a part of this forum and it should not be removed.
Title: Re: Do we really need the chatbox?
Post by: dkbit98 on February 03, 2024, 11:47:07 AM
I would recommend you tune down your aggressivity a bit. Negative karma is often given for aggressive replies.
Sorry if I sounded like that, but it's funny that first I was a ''hacker'', and now I am being aggressive  :D
At least you are being transparent about it.

We are a bit more shill here ....
Shill or Chill? ;)
Shill is usually not something good.
Quote
Shill is a person who publicly helps or gives credibility to a person or organization without disclosing that they have a close relationship with the person or organization
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shill

Things are how they are. I am not going to change everything in the forum to satisfy every single taste.
Sure.
You don't have to listen to any of my suggestions, but be ready to accept criticism and honest opinion of other people.
I wont always pretend to be nice and polite just to receive good karma.



Back on Chatbox now, I like it, but I will be keeping it closed and collapsed most of the time.
Peace and out.
Title: Re: Do we really need the chatbox?
Post by: admin on February 03, 2024, 12:25:07 PM
I would recommend you tune down your aggressivity a bit. Negative karma is often given for aggressive replies.
Sorry if I sounded like that, but it's funny that first I was a ''hacker'', and now I am being aggressive  :D
At least you are being transparent about it.

We are a bit more shill here ....
Shill or Chill? ;)
Shill is usually not something good.
Quote
Shill is a person who publicly helps or gives credibility to a person or organization without disclosing that they have a close relationship with the person or organization
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shill

Things are how they are. I am not going to change everything in the forum to satisfy every single taste.
Sure.
You don't have to listen to any of my suggestions, but be ready to accept criticism and honest opinion of other people.
I wont always pretend to be nice and polite just to receive good karma.



Back on Chatbox now, I like it, but I will be keeping it closed and collapsed most of the time.
Peace and out.

Typo .. shill/chill ... what's important, is you understood the point.

Sure, thank you for the feedback.
No need to pretend to be nice, but i did notice a lot of those that teleported tend to have a confrontational approach ...
On btt, it kind of normal, i don't know why exactly ...
But here, we try to be friendly.
Title: Re: Do we really need the chatbox?
Post by: alltalk on February 03, 2024, 12:42:20 PM
I've been a little chatty in the box but no regularly.
It is good to see you sometimes communicating in chatbox. It is something impossible to find out in bitcointalk.  :D

I also noticed that when people start asking questions in the chatbox, the admin would prefer they make a thread.
I think admin suggests them to make a thread on the forum for a specific topic that needs a complex explanation. If it is about a light topic, it is no problem to have on the chatbox. What I see that we may need a limitation for the topic that we can discuss on the chatbox. So Admin doesn't need to more often remind them as we know what topics shouldn't be discussed there.

What does everyone else think? It's ok but not many use it and admin has to clear it almost daily.
I read the conversation on the chatbox daily.  :)
I don't know if it is possible or not, but I think Admin may set the conversation to last 1x24 hours. It should be removed automatically after 1x24 hours. It this is possible, Admin doesn't need to clear the conversation manually each day.

Title: Re: Do we really need the chatbox?
Post by: IyemRoker on February 03, 2024, 01:32:10 PM
I personally support Admins with the Chatbox feature because I see this Chatbox as a shortcut to view members' discussions faster than Personal Messages (PM) on forums.
But sometimes I get bored if I see the contents of the Chatbox about chats that don't need to be discussed but I just leave it and look at it while saying "arrgghhh they're joking, just leave it alone".
Unlike other forums, Altcoinstalks has a Chatbox feature and this is quite good and friendly because I'm sure if all members want to provide serious information and explain in detail they will definitely create a thread on the forum and that is what they should do. :)
Title: Re: Do we really need the chatbox?
Post by: babo on February 03, 2024, 06:09:26 PM
I've been a little chatty in the box but no regularly. I do try to go back and read what everyone might have written since my last login, but half the time there is less than 10 new chats in there.

I also noticed that when people start asking questions in the chatbox, the admin would prefer they make a thread.

If the chatbox wasn't there, then everyone would make a thread right? Or would they just stay ignorant on whatever subject they're curious about?

What does everyone else think? It's ok but not many use it and admin has to clear it almost daily. Post opinions please


I honestly don't like it, for the troll and the fun in itself it's okay
in the end in certain places and contexts it is called 'trollbox' and helps to contain spam and trolling from those who enter and want to have a little fun and have a laugh with others, it is another form that helps the forum to evolve

Title: Re: Do we really need the chatbox?
Post by: yahoo62278 on February 03, 2024, 07:55:43 PM
I've been a little chatty in the box but no regularly.
It is good to see you sometimes communicating in chatbox. It is something impossible to find out in bitcointalk.  :D

I also noticed that when people start asking questions in the chatbox, the admin would prefer they make a thread.
I think admin suggests them to make a thread on the forum for a specific topic that needs a complex explanation. If it is about a light topic, it is no problem to have on the chatbox. What I see that we may need a limitation for the topic that we can discuss on the chatbox. So Admin doesn't need to more often remind them as we know what topics shouldn't be discussed there.

What does everyone else think? It's ok but not many use it and admin has to clear it almost daily.
I read the conversation on the chatbox daily.  :)
I don't know if it is possible or not, but I think Admin may set the conversation to last 1x24 hours. It should be removed automatically after 1x24 hours. It this is possible, Admin doesn't need to clear the conversation manually each day.
There are a couple chats in discord with members of bitcointalk that I am a part of, so even though its not located on the forum there are still a few of us who communicate. Telegram is also utilized for communication.

For the record, I have no aversion to the chatbox. I can take it or leave it. I like to chat now n then and I see others do as well.
Title: Re: Do we really need the chatbox?
Post by: admin on February 03, 2024, 09:48:11 PM
It is a nice feature. Maybe not a must have feature, but still a nice one.
Title: Re: Do we really need the chatbox?
Post by: babo on February 04, 2024, 09:06:42 AM
It is a nice feature. Maybe not a must have feature, but still a nice one.

Yes it is a feature, some like it, some don't, but it has advantages in my opinion
1) allows those who want to chat, vent, laugh and troll to have a place without dirtying the threads
2) allows you to intercept those who love to chat so they have a place to come

Even though I don't like it, in all honesty it's useful
Title: Re: Do we really need the chatbox?
Post by: Agbe on February 04, 2024, 07:20:17 PM
Yes and no and I will answer the two. The chat box is needed because people can ask simple questions with a long thread. There some things {question} and people that are active there can give the same simple answer for the person to know what they want. And it is not needed because instead of asking questions in the chat bar that is not counted and doesn't develop the forum activities so there is no need for that. It's delayed the growth of the forum activity.
Title: Re: Do we really need the chatbox?
Post by: Mrbluntzy on February 05, 2024, 01:31:50 AM
No need to pretend to be nice, but i did notice a lot of those that teleported tend to have a confrontational approach ...
On btt, it kind of normal, i don't know why exactly ...
But here, we try to be friendly.

I so much love what you said here. Every forum has the way they operate and this forum does not have to be like the other forum to satisfy every teleported or native members. Suggestions can be made but there is room to make due the one that you find convincing.

I don't think I have used that chatbox since I teleported my account, but I don't have any problem with it either. It can be there on the front page while I log in, do my post on useful  topics and discussions, then take my leave, it doesn't cause any harm.  Although if my suggestion can count and if also it will be easy for you to do, you can add a settings that can allow members to hid the chatbox if they done want to use it.
Title: Re: Do we really need the chatbox?
Post by: babo on February 05, 2024, 10:49:07 AM


Typo .. shill/chill ... what's important, is you understood the point.

Sure, thank you for the feedback.
No need to pretend to be nice, but i did notice a lot of those that teleported tend to have a confrontational approach ...
On btt, it kind of normal, i don't know why exactly ...
But here, we try to be friendly.

obviously not all of us are like this, I come from the open source world I know for sure, having seen it with my own eyes, that with cooperation and a minimum commitment and using a small effort you can do great things
everyone is useful, even those who don't know how to program, everyone has a skill, using them together becomes important but you also need to have the right head