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Further Discussions => Economics , Sociology & Politics => Topic started by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on February 02, 2024, 11:30:23 PM
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Well, the title says it all already, so yeah, assuming you have two options and you are only supposed to make one choice, what would be your choice ?
Between to accept a well paying job and to go to the university and take a foure years program, which will you accept and why do you think it will be better choice for you?
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I'll start "on the other side" :)
Binary choices are not the best way to make decisions. As practice shows - it is more correct to choose a priority, but not an unambiguous choice. And so it is here in your topic.
Depending on the situation, age, future plans...
For example, if you are at the age before retirement, you will probably be interested in high income, so that pension accruals will be extremely high.
For a young person probably the choice will be in favor of knowledge - because it is the basis of his FUTURE.
On the other hand, I adhere to this concept, you should always learn and expand your knowledge. That means - always learn, always look for income channels (and always more than 1), always look for new knowledge and new income channels.
So the final answer is: you should choose both knowledge and income, and preferably a lot of knowledge and many channels of regular income :)
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take a job first then go to college if career advancement in the company requires a bachelor's degree for one position, because currently if you take college first there is no guarantee that there will be jobs in my country, where there is an age limit for new job applicants passed ,
So I prefer to work first if I have the opportunity first
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Well, the title says it all already, so yeah, assuming you have two options and you are only supposed to make one choice, what would be your choice ?
Between to accept a well paying job and to go to the university and take a foure years program, which will you accept and why do you think it will be better choice for you?
Highschool is enough for me as a less fortunate individual as long as I know how to speak english, do some maths and everything needed to be qualified as an investor so my choice would obviously be the income generating job to fund my investments. Spending more time, money and effort for another four years won't guarantee I have a better or even decent job in the future. I only need to invest in a vocational course which typically lasts up to 6 months here in my country to acquire specific skills for a specific job like welding, plumbing, legal asistant, sounds and video technician, auto mechanic, HVAC mechanic, carpentry and many more just to be able to find a high paying job based on my acquired skills.
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I chose education. Education first before making money. The knowledge you acquire in school will help you in your future job. If chosen job and later the company wants a higher degree certificate before you could finish your school, what happens then? The way to fight poverty is through education.
Education is power.
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I'll start "on the other side" :)
Binary choices are not the best way to make decisions. As practice shows - it is more correct to choose a priority, but not an unambiguous choice. And so it is here in your topic.
Depending on the situation, age, future plans...
For example, if you are at the age before retirement, you will probably be interested in high income, so that pension accruals will be extremely high.
For a young person probably the choice will be in favor of knowledge - because it is the basis of his FUTURE.
On the other hand, I adhere to this concept, you should always learn and expand your knowledge. That means - always learn, always look for income channels (and always more than 1), always look for new knowledge and new income channels.
So the final answer is: you should choose both knowledge and income, and preferably a lot of knowledge and many channels of regular income :)
Smile, everyone needs money to survive especially on this new errand we are in now and also we need to educate ourselves too for the future so that we can embrace the changes Ahead of us especially now that the technology is growing higher and Advance that we need that education to be able to be part of it, So we won't be left behind. but we should remember education is the best key for successful life, without education or knowledge we won't be able to tackle the little challenges that may come our way during either on the job we are into or any other means. So for me what I believe in is this education, but the problem we are in now is that the world have changed whereby your Certificate of education cannot find you a suitable Job despite you are qualified for it , unless you are a politically exposed person or in close relation with an higher authorities then you are good to go, that's why many people try to grab the opportunity of jobs that will come to their way even without being an educated person, just to put food on their table for the consumption for them and their families. Therefore they both work hands to hands base on the economical situation of the country.
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For a question posed so abstractly, there is no universally correct answer, and here I agree with DrBeer. At first glance it would seem that for a young person education is better than a good job, but it depends, as there are people who have no degree and earn a lot of money, as well as having a fabulous life. I do think that for an older person a job would be better, however, as the time they have left to get a return on the time they would invest in education is very limited.
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I'll start "on the other side" :)
Binary choices are not the best way to make decisions. As practice shows - it is more correct to choose a priority, but not an unambiguous choice. And so it is here in your topic.
Depending on the situation, age, future plans...
For example, if you are at the age before retirement, you will probably be interested in high income, so that pension accruals will be extremely high.
For a young person probably the choice will be in favor of knowledge - because it is the basis of his FUTURE.
On the other hand, I adhere to this concept, you should always learn and expand your knowledge. That means - always learn, always look for income channels (and always more than 1), always look for new knowledge and new income channels.
So the final answer is: you should choose both knowledge and income, and preferably a lot of knowledge and many channels of regular income :)
Smile, everyone needs money to survive especially on this new errand we are in now and also we need to educate ourselves too for the future so that we can embrace the changes Ahead of us especially now that the technology is growing higher and Advance that we need that education to be able to be part of it, So we won't be left behind. but we should remember education is the best key for successful life, without education or knowledge we won't be able to tackle the little challenges that may come our way during either on the job we are into or any other means. So for me what I believe in is this education, but the problem we are in now is that the world have changed whereby your Certificate of education cannot find you a suitable Job despite you are qualified for it , unless you are a politically exposed person or in close relation with an higher authorities then you are good to go, that's why many people try to grab the opportunity of jobs that will come to their way even without being an educated person, just to put food on their table for the consumption for them and their families. Therefore they both work hands to hands base on the economical situation of the country.
I absolutely agree that everyone needs money and always needs it. But there is a nuance - a poor, uneducated person will always remain a poor, uneducated person. Although he can bring a little money home. And until he adds knowledge to himself, he will earn little. This is such a vicious circle, the way out of which is only willpower, the ability to accept the challenge and find a way to break it. Yes, it is difficult, but there is no other way out. No, you can marry a rich woman, or marry a rich man..... But it will certainly not add knowledge :)
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If we can choose both why should we choose one or the other? ;D
We can work while studying, and I'm sure companies will give permission or even support their employees to study. Because it is not impossible when learning employees can provide innovation to the company.
Money and education in my opinion are equally important, some people want to get higher education because they want to get a decent job. And now many companies provide more opportunities to someone who has higher education.
Maybe doing both will be very tiring, but it comes back to ourselves. Whether to just give up, or do both for a better future.
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Well, the title says it all already, so yeah, assuming you have two options and you are only supposed to make one choice, what would be your choice ?
Between to accept a well paying job and to go to the university and take a foure years program, which will you accept and why do you think it will be better choice for you?
A tough one if you ask me. I think it depends on the country you're at. If I'm residing in a country where there are less job opportunities, and I'm faced with this kind of choice, I would take the job and forfeit going to school but if there are many job opportunities, then why worrying over missing one opportunity? I would shun the job offer and further my education. When I'm done schooling, I'm pretty certain that I'd get a better job.
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Well, the title says it all already, so yeah, assuming you have two options and you are only supposed to make one choice, what would be your choice ?
Between to accept a well paying job and to go to the university and take a foure years program, which will you accept and why do you think it will be better choice for you?
A tough one if you ask me. I think it depends on the country you're at. If I'm residing in a country where there are less job opportunities, and I'm faced with this kind of choice, I would take the job and forfeit going to school but if there are many job opportunities, then why worrying over missing one opportunity? I would shun the job offer and further my education. When I'm done schooling, I'm pretty certain that I'd get a better job.
And it's not just situations like that that can make us decide which one to choose. Economic conditions will also be a consideration for us in making that decision. If our family is in a wealthy group, and can finance our education to completion then maybe we will prefer to continue our education. But if we come from an ordinary family and tend to force ourselves to pay for education then maybe we will choose to work.
To continue education to higher education, we can continue it at any time, in my opinion it is also a consideration, and also maybe we can continue education while working. What's wrong with that?
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Well, the title says it all already, so yeah, assuming you have two options and you are only supposed to make one choice, what would be your choice ?
Between to accept a well paying job and to go to the university and take a foure years program, which will you accept and why do you think it will be better choice for you?
A tough one if you ask me. I think it depends on the country you're at. If I'm residing in a country where there are less job opportunities, and I'm faced with this kind of choice, I would take the job and forfeit going to school but if there are many job opportunities, then why worrying over missing one opportunity? I would shun the job offer and further my education. When I'm done schooling, I'm pretty certain that I'd get a better job.
Yeah though some might take all at once, I mean working student but this maybe complicated to others but people who did this actually did exist. You are correct when you say this depends on a specific country but in most third world countries working student is quiet common but it also existed in some first world countries as well but the percentage is low. I know people who graduated in college but the problem is that they are unemployed for a couple of years now I don't know why but they don't use the degree they got.
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It's still best for me to have an education because no one can take that away from you, unlike an income-generating job. Education is yours and there to take advantage of. If you have managed to put on a full-blown education and have the credentials to back it up, you can get way higher income and then have that feeling of achievement. That's more fulfilling IMO.
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Economic conditions will also be a consideration for us in making that decision. If our family is in a wealthy group, and can finance our education to completion then maybe we will prefer to continue our education. But if we come from an ordinary family and tend to force ourselves to pay for education then maybe we will choose to work.
The question is very direct. It says if you had two options, make a choice. So I think it's addressed to someone that's not financially buoyant. Someone from a well to do family, have more than a choice, as he'd choose school over job.
Yeah though some might take all at once, I mean working student but this maybe complicated to others but people who did this actually did exist. You are correct when you say this depends on a specific country but in most third world countries working student is quiet common but it also existed in some first world countries as well but the percentage is low. I know people who graduated in college but the problem is that they are unemployed for a couple of years now I don't know why but they don't use the degree they got.
A bird at hand is worth nine in the bush. In many third world countries where the rate of unemployment is very high, there's no guarantee that you'd get a job after graduation, so grabbing the job won't be a bad idea as you could still further your education while working.
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If we can choose both why should we choose one or the other? ;D
We can work while studying, and I'm sure companies will give permission or even support their employees to study. Because it is not impossible when learning employees can provide innovation to the company.
Money and education in my opinion are equally important, some people want to get higher education because they want to get a decent job. And now many companies provide more opportunities to someone who has higher education.
Maybe doing both will be very tiring, but it comes back to ourselves. Whether to just give up, or do both for a better future.
The binary choice is always one of the "worst" choices. The world cannot be divided only into 0 and 1, white and black, good and bad, and the choice cannot be only one of two. There will always be half-tones, there will always be an intermediate, OVERALL EFFECTIVE solution for the two choices. Like for example the solution for this topic - choose both items, make an effort and get a much better result ! :)
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If we can choose both why should we choose one or the other? ;D
We can work while studying, and I'm sure companies will give permission or even support their employees to study. Because it is not impossible when learning employees can provide innovation to the company.
Money and education in my opinion are equally important, some people want to get higher education because they want to get a decent job. And now many companies provide more opportunities to someone who has higher education.
Maybe doing both will be very tiring, but it comes back to ourselves. Whether to just give up, or do both for a better future.
The binary choice is always one of the "worst" choices. The world cannot be divided only into 0 and 1, white and black, good and bad, and the choice cannot be only one of two. There will always be half-tones, there will always be an intermediate, OVERALL EFFECTIVE solution for the two choices. Like for example the solution for this topic - choose both items, make an effort and get a much better result ! :)
Isn't that right? ;)
because the two choices that are the topic here are all good, we need jobs and we also need education, I think these two things cannot be clashed with each other, because indirectly they are related to each other.
Maybe we can choose between good and bad, but in this case as I said before both are good choices, it depends on us whether we will try harder which is "tiring", or choose one which may also be tiring too.
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Economic conditions will also be a consideration for us in making that decision. If our family is in a wealthy group, and can finance our education to completion then maybe we will prefer to continue our education. But if we come from an ordinary family and tend to force ourselves to pay for education then maybe we will choose to work.
The question is very direct. It says if you had two options, make a choice. So I think it's addressed to someone that's not financially buoyant. Someone from a well to do family, have more than a choice, as he'd choose school over job.
I don't see this question being aimed at someone who has a financially well-off family, it's clearly aimed at our choices not our family background.
That's why I say what kind of situation you're in first, because that will be one of the factors that we will consider to make a choice, education or work.
If the OP had asked clearly what the question was and what the family situation was like then I would also have been able to answer directly.
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We both need it because let's say we choose job, you will have a hard time doing those tasks if you are not well educated. Yes it can be learned but the phase would take a long time so eventually you'll get fired unless there is a condition like you won't get fired even if you are very dumb and not contributing to work which is not possible. Also in education we do go to school because we want to have a good job.It is really good to start at first and not skip, the first step is having an education, and having a job is the second step.
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If we can choose both why should we choose one or the other? ;D
We can work while studying, and I'm sure companies will give permission or even support their employees to study. Because it is not impossible when learning employees can provide innovation to the company.
Money and education in my opinion are equally important, some people want to get higher education because they want to get a decent job. And now many companies provide more opportunities to someone who has higher education.
Maybe doing both will be very tiring, but it comes back to ourselves. Whether to just give up, or do both for a better future.
The binary choice is always one of the "worst" choices. The world cannot be divided only into 0 and 1, white and black, good and bad, and the choice cannot be only one of two. There will always be half-tones, there will always be an intermediate, OVERALL EFFECTIVE solution for the two choices. Like for example the solution for this topic - choose both items, make an effort and get a much better result ! :)
Isn't that right? ;)
because the two choices that are the topic here are all good, we need jobs and we also need education, I think these two things cannot be clashed with each other, because indirectly they are related to each other.
Maybe we can choose between good and bad, but in this case as I said before both are good choices, it depends on us whether we will try harder which is "tiring", or choose one which may also be tiring too.
That's the tricky thing about the author of the topic - he tried to limit the choices :) By the way, have you noticed how most people react to such a question ? They... start... to choose one of the options, having blocked in their thinking the third or fourth option of the answer ! They have set boundaries, and they force themselves to think within the virtual boundaries ! This is a very interesting section of psychology, from the field of people management, I highly recommend studying it :)
But in fact, this is a big problem - people limit themselves in the choice of solutions and options, because they force themselves into the framework of choice.
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From everything you said, you are right but am able to pick two vital points which are "age difference" and also " To chose both income and education " If the person feel that there is possibility to pick the two at once, then it's absolutely fine.
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This just reminds me how bleak the future of the gaming industry for developers is. So many were laid off because the company wanted to save money, and at the same time being indie is really difficult if you don't have any capital at all. Not to mention other companies take overqualified people for open positions, which basically means most of them won't be able to get a job even though they are qualified to do so. If this is happening in other industries, I'm pretty sure most of them would prefer to get a stable job first instead of thinking about the future. You can't really daydream and plan the third or fourth choice if you can't even eat today.
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For myself, I would prefer earning money because I can take care of myself, buy the things I need, and not have to suffer to get by in school. Instead, when I start school, I won't need anyone's assistance to get by. Therefore, choosing earning money above schooling is essential and helpful for our general well-being.
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For myself, I would prefer earning money because I can take care of myself, buy the things I need, and not have to suffer to get by in school. Instead, when I start school, I won't need anyone's assistance to get by. Therefore, choosing earning money above schooling is essential and helpful for our general well-being.
Yeah agree. Learning how to be independent is the best thing to do here. I have this friend who is currently self supporting through spearfishing and at the same time he is a highschool student and take note he has this certificates with honors so smart for this young friend of mine and of course this guy is also my volunteer partner that is why I allowed him to get asleep during our night duty especially if he has classes on the next day. By that simple way I am able to help him ease the risk of being late. I am happy he had that courage to finish his studies.
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Isn't that right? ;)
because the two choices that are the topic here are all good, we need jobs and we also need education, I think these two things cannot be clashed with each other, because indirectly they are related to each other.
Maybe we can choose between good and bad, but in this case as I said before both are good choices, it depends on us whether we will try harder which is "tiring", or choose one which may also be tiring too.
That's the tricky thing about the author of the topic - he tried to limit the choices :) By the way, have you noticed how most people react to such a question ? They... start... to choose one of the options, having blocked in their thinking the third or fourth option of the answer ! They have set boundaries, and they force themselves to think within the virtual boundaries ! This is a very interesting section of psychology, from the field of people management, I highly recommend studying it :)
But in fact, this is a big problem - people limit themselves in the choice of solutions and options, because they force themselves into the framework of choice.
Now this is the big question, why would someone try to limit choices when the choice is good? Except in times of urgency, maybe we will consider which one is better if it is based on what we need.
Meanwhile, education and work are basic needs for humans. Separating these two things as if they are contradictory is not wise at all.
I agree, don't limit your choices if both are good for you. It is better to do both, this is not a form of greed, but this is part of self-development in my opinion.
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From everything you said, you are right but am able to pick two vital points which are "age difference" and also " To chose both income and education " If the person feel that there is possibility to pick the two at once, then it's absolutely fine.
It goes without saying - the choice should be adaptive, based on reality, environment, and other nuances. But we should always strive for more coverage, and strive for "higher goals" or more complex ones - this guarantees our development and readiness for changes that are beyond our control.
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It depends on the age of that person who is being given the choice to make. I am a family man, so I will choose the high paid job. This will enable me plan with my family and also come up with an amount that I will use to buy bitcoin regular, either weekly or monthly using DCA method. This will continue till I am done with the job. In ten years time my bitcoin investment portfolio would have generated a good profit that as time goes on, I can diversify into other investments like setting up a business, or I will invest in gold, bonds and stock. Going to school and becoming a graduate that you will start all over again to start looking for a job, is for the young ones that don't have any responsibilities and investment ideas.
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It depends on the age of that person who is being given the choice to make. I am a family man, so I will choose the high paid job. This will enable me plan with my family and also come up with an amount that I will use to buy bitcoin regular, either weekly or monthly using DCA method. This will continue till I am done with the job. In ten years time my bitcoin investment portfolio would have generated a good profit that as time goes on, I can diversify into other investments like setting up a business, or I will invest in gold, bonds and stock. Going to school and becoming a graduate that you will start all over again to start looking for a job, is for the young ones that don't have any responsibilities and investment ideas.
And can you please tell me why in your described status (family and stuff), you can't find a few hours a day/week to gain new knowledge/skills ? I think the question in the topic is not only about full-fledged academic education with on-campus living.
It seems to me that you can always allocate some time for something new .... Believe me, if you somehow spend 1 week to fix the timing of your ordinary day. by the results of literally one week - you will see that there will be enough options to save time, believe me - proven by personal experience :).
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Well, the title says it all already, so yeah, assuming you have two options and you are only supposed to make one choice, what would be your choice ?
Between to accept a well paying job and to go to the university and take a foure years program, which will you accept and why do you think it will be better choice for you?
You have to consider other factors to accommodate these two to work properly. In a sane environment, I mean where things are working, where you can have a job after school, going to the university should be what you should be looking after. Going to school increase your knowledge about a particular field and it also make you exposed to new things and after the school, you can apply for better job with better pay because higher formal education gives you upper hand outside.
However, if you are coming from a place where job is not guarantee even after studying and wasting your years in school, then I will choose the job anyday. If after spending 4 years in a job, you will develop some skills which you can use to have the same job again because skills is what sells in all these areas.
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From everything you said, you are right but am able to pick two vital points which are "age difference" and also " To chose both income and education " If the person feel that there is possibility to pick the two at once, then it's absolutely fine.
It goes without saying - the choice should be adaptive, based on reality, environment, and other nuances. But we should always strive for more coverage, and strive for "higher goals" or more complex ones - this guarantees our development and readiness for changes that are beyond our control.
Exactly, because life is a survival of the fittest therefore we prioritizes what best suit for us to survive. People living in lower class prefer to have income generating job than having education though not all because some of us prefer to do both or choose the other one depending on one's decision, ability and capacity. Since middle and higher class can afford to get a higher education that is why they have this advantage. In short this is some sort of situational to me.
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~ Between to accept a well paying job and to go to the university and take a foure years program, which will you accept and why do you think it will be better choice for you?
I think the "well paying" part was missed by some posters. There is no amount given but I would assume that it means it's more than enough to handle someone's basic necessities (wherever he's located).
I think a highschool education + 4 years work experience from a well-paying job is not a bad choice. With that time spent on actual practice, you're also likely to develop/improve life skills that's not thought in schools.
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From everything you said, you are right but am able to pick two vital points which are "age difference" and also " To chose both income and education " If the person feel that there is possibility to pick the two at once, then it's absolutely fine.
It goes without saying - the choice should be adaptive, based on reality, environment, and other nuances. But we should always strive for more coverage, and strive for "higher goals" or more complex ones - this guarantees our development and readiness for changes that are beyond our control.
Exactly, because life is a survival of the fittest therefore we prioritizes what best suit for us to survive. People living in lower class prefer to have income generating job than having education though not all because some of us prefer to do both or choose the other one depending on one's decision, ability and capacity. Since middle and higher class can afford to get a higher education that is why they have this advantage. In short this is some sort of situational to me.
My personal opinion: in matters that concern our lives, we should not stop at 1 option that provides minimal results. It is like the choice when you are faced with the threat of hunger - what to choose between drinking water or eating food? Choosing only one option will lead to problems, although it may look even logical. You should always look for a way to get more than the situation offers, so in my example the right choice is to work hard, earn money, and drink and eat.
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It is difficult to choose because both are equally important because they need each other, and it cannot be ignored that they are certainly mutually binding. But if you are asked to make a clear choice, work is given priority because finding work is currently very difficult, and when you are already working, it can still be combined with further education, which we will do and is usually available for those who are already working.
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Well I have a degree in accounting and I have self employment in cryptocurrency field.
So I always stove to work and be educated. I never choose either and I ended up with both.
It depends on your circumstances sometimes you must work while slowly getting education on the side.
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Well, the title says it all already, so yeah, assuming you have two options and you are only supposed to make one choice, what would be your choice ?
Between to accept a well paying job and to go to the university and take a foure years program, which will you accept and why do you think it will be better choice for you?
Knowledge is the best wealth that you can have. There are no two ways about it. But if I am presented with a 4-year education and a well-paying job, I will choose the 2nd option. I feel like I have done enough with the education. I have not graduated yet but continuing my study won't bring me much. In my country, the competition is so high that if I continue to study and do nothing in the meantime, I will be left behind. Also, the education system here is shit. All about politics. The same goes for the job sector. If you know a guy, if you have power, if you have money, you can do anything here.
So just looking at the current situation here in my country, a job would be the best bet for me. Personally, I believe that with a degree I can do much more but the current situation is only suitable for me to choose the 2nd option.
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can i chose the income generating job and study college while working?
paying your own education i guess is one thing you can really be proud of as its like an example of self-made man. however in this economy today, its hard to really get a job where you won't be worrying that tomorrow there will be laying off.
as much as possible, you need t o have a job these days to survive. regardless o what this job is as long as it pays the bill you better stick to it.
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The income generating job is best because all other jobs or works are to make you spend out your salary but income generating job brings more to your life. It can even allow you to go to school to educate yourself and doing your job to make more money. Most students sponsor themselves. So income generating job is best for all other jobs. Even the world richest people are not government workers but self-employed.
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take a job first then go to college if career advancement in the company requires a bachelor's degree for one position, because currently if you take college first there is no guarantee that there will be jobs in my country, where there is an age limit for new job applicants passed ,
So I prefer to work first if I have the opportunity first
I think choices would vary for different people due to certain factors that would first be put into consideration. Just like you said, there's limited job in your country and if you eventually choose to go to college first, (which would appear to be the best choice in some countries that have more job opportunities), there's no guarantee that you'll come out of college and secure yourself a well paid job.
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The income generating job is best because all other jobs or works are to make you spend out your salary but income generating job brings more to your life. It can even allow you to go to school to educate yourself and doing your job to make more money. Most students sponsor themselves. So income generating job is best for all other jobs. Even the world richest people are not government workers but self-employed.
As long as we do work, we can be sure that we will get a source of income, and it is true that what you said can be distributed according to needs, and some of it can be used to continue education to further achieve the goals of the work that will be carried out with a higher reputation because you have completed your education.I agree with what has been said that work that generates income is the best thing, but I would actually prefer to be self-employed because I can manage everything myself whenever I want to do anything, including continuing my education because it is not regulated by other people.
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This is not supposed to be a debate in a system that is actually functioning. In a normal system, you Go to school, acquire the basic knowledge you need to stay relevant in the labour market and get a good paying job afterwards. Many people tend to bypass the procedures and go straight to getting good paying jobs because of lots of uncertainties. You won't really fault them because most of them don't really have that assurance of getting good jobs or businesses after graduation if they let the good paying job go. The option of going for good paying jobs might be favourable if they they are given on-the-job trainings from time to time where they keep themselves acquainted with the recent happenings in the industry.
But in a situation where they are not given trainings from time to time, there are tendencies that their efforts and inputs might become outdated and irrelevant in few years to come. It might become difficult to switch to other jobs, industries, skill or business line if they have no relevant academic qualification. Before going for any option, weigh the implications first.
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I agree with what has been said that work that generates income is the best thing, but I would actually prefer to be self-employed because I can manage everything myself whenever I want to do anything, including continuing my education because it is not regulated by other people.
I like this part here. 😁 As I am also one of this type of people who prefer being self employed to have a full control of our time. But yeah being a self employed person we need to make sure that we generate more than enough income to cater our needs in life especially if we are at the same time a student. But in my case since I am not a student I can focus on many things I wanted just like volunteering as a law enforcer or doing my hobbies.
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I agree with what has been said that work that generates income is the best thing, but I would actually prefer to be self-employed because I can manage everything myself whenever I want to do anything, including continuing my education because it is not regulated by other people.
I like this part here. 😁 As I am also one of this type of people who prefer being self employed to have a full control of our time. But yeah being a self employed person we need to make sure that we generate more than enough income to cater our needs in life especially if we are at the same time a student. But in my case since I am not a student I can focus on many things I wanted just like volunteering as a law enforcer or doing my hobbies.
I think everyone will also want be the same as you. Independent business [entrepreneurship] is the best solution that can be done and, of course, we can organize everything according to what we want, both in terms of time, situation, income, etc.
Moreover, if you are no longer involved in studying, you will be able to focus more on putting everything into that business in more detail. If, as you said, you want to volunteer in law enforcement, a hobby, you can still do it, because as I said above, it's all because you can manage your time according to your needs and adapt one activity to another more easily.
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I agree with what has been said that work that generates income is the best thing, but I would actually prefer to be self-employed because I can manage everything myself whenever I want to do anything, including continuing my education because it is not regulated by other people.
I like this part here. 😁 As I am also one of this type of people who prefer being self employed to have a full control of our time. But yeah being a self employed person we need to make sure that we generate more than enough income to cater our needs in life especially if we are at the same time a student. But in my case since I am not a student I can focus on many things I wanted just like volunteering as a law enforcer or doing my hobbies.
I think everyone will also want be the same as you. Independent business [entrepreneurship] is the best solution that can be done and, of course, we can organize everything according to what we want, both in terms of time, situation, income, etc.
Moreover, if you are no longer involved in studying, you will be able to focus more on putting everything into that business in more detail. If, as you said, you want to volunteer in law enforcement, a hobby, you can still do it, because as I said above, it's all because you can manage your time according to your needs and adapt one activity to another more easily.
Yeah and I love it being self employed compared back to time when I had an employer that sometimes put a pressure on you if they see your good performance they will took advantage of it. But right now, I am my own boss because I can do whatever I want anytime as I am the one hodling my full time unlike when you are employed the company owns almost all your time. Not only your time but also you can adjust on how much you want to earn depending on your flexibility since you can add more jobs as a freelancer. And this is the reality between being employed and self employed.
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I agree with what has been said that work that generates income is the best thing, but I would actually prefer to be self-employed because I can manage everything myself whenever I want to do anything, including continuing my education because it is not regulated by other people.
I like this part here. 😁 As I am also one of this type of people who prefer being self employed to have a full control of our time. But yeah being a self employed person we need to make sure that we generate more than enough income to cater our needs in life especially if we are at the same time a student. But in my case since I am not a student I can focus on many things I wanted just like volunteering as a law enforcer or doing my hobbies.
I think everyone will also want be the same as you. Independent business [entrepreneurship] is the best solution that can be done and, of course, we can organize everything according to what we want, both in terms of time, situation, income, etc.
Moreover, if you are no longer involved in studying, you will be able to focus more on putting everything into that business in more detail. If, as you said, you want to volunteer in law enforcement, a hobby, you can still do it, because as I said above, it's all because you can manage your time according to your needs and adapt one activity to another more easily.
Yeah and I love it being self employed compared back to time when I had an employer that sometimes put a pressure on you if they see your good performance they will took advantage of it. But right now, I am my own boss because I can do whatever I want anytime as I am the one hodling my full time unlike when you are employed the company owns almost all your time. Not only your time but also you can adjust on how much you want to earn depending on your flexibility since you can add more jobs as a freelancer. And this is the reality between being employed and self employed.
If I have to choose, then I agree with what you said. It's better to be an entrepreneur than to work with people who, of course, will always experience any pressure that can happen, good or bad, as you said. You don't have to obey the rules that are made, which may not necessarily be pleasant, but must be followed. That's the fate of a worker.
Obviously, it will be different if we are self-employed, and then we organize everything according to what we want to do, both the work and the time, as well as the targets we will achieve, so that we can provide maximum results.
Indeed, there is nothing better than being able to be your own master. It is the most beautiful gift.
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In our society today education in necessary, but making money is more vital. For me I will take the job if they are paying well, because we you can't futher your education if you're financially unstable.
But as time goes you can use the money to set out a business that can generate income to you, before you think of going to further your education...
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In our society today education in necessary, but making money is more vital. For me I will take the job if they are paying well, because we you can't futher your education if you're financially unstable.
But as time goes you can use the money to set out a business that can generate income to you, before you think of going to further your education...
I think you are right, that education is important because without maximum education you will certainly have difficulty finding work, which is the way to meet ongoing needs.
Without working, of course, we cannot make money, so working is also important, but an initial foundation must be built. Where to work you need skills that can be obtained from education.
So money is important and everyone can't avoid it, but currently, without a certificate it will be difficult to work, but after working and earning money.
With money, we can do additional business, or we can continue our education at a higher level so that the value we get from work rewards from wages will be higher.
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Well, the title says it all already, so yeah, assuming you have two options and you are only supposed to make one choice, what would be your choice ?
Between to accept a well paying job and to go to the university and take a foure years program, which will you accept and why do you think it will be better choice for you?
No matter how important education is first, especially in employment, education is the most important. If you are educated and if you are very talented then all sources of income can be created by you and after you are educated you can definitely create your place of income. We usually join the university for a four-year course and after graduating from the university, of course, we enter the job field. But if one considers himself to be educated just to earn money in the field of employment, then he is on the wrong platform.
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Well, the title says it all already, so yeah, assuming you have two options and you are only supposed to make one choice, what would be your choice ?
Between to accept a well paying job and to go to the university and take a foure years program, which will you accept and why do you think it will be better choice for you?
Actually to me taking a job is the first thing I will go for, because with the job you can generating money for yourself and later you can choose to further your education. Actually there are people who have graduated in my country, who for more than 15 years can use their certificate for anything because of no job. Unemployment is in the high side in my country, so I will go for the job than for the education.
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Actually to me taking a job is the first thing I will go for, because with the job you can generating money for yourself and later you can choose to further your education. Actually there are people who have graduated in my country, who for more than 15 years can use their certificate for anything because of no job. Unemployment is in the high side in my country, so I will go for the job than for the education.
You are realistic, because the difference between work and education can be very different in its application. When we have worked, as you also said, continuing our education will be easy because we already have the money to do that. But with the education we have received, it is not certain that we will be able to find a suitable job, because we are faced with a diploma that must be adjusted.
But in principle, education is still needed and work must also be obtained. If both can be done simultaneously, it will certainly be better.
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Well, the title says it all already, so yeah, assuming you have two options and you are only supposed to make one choice, what would be your choice ?
Between to accept a well paying job and to go to the university and take a foure years program, which will you accept and why do you think it will be better choice for you?
Actually to me taking a job is the first thing I will go for, because with the job you can generating money for yourself and later you can choose to further your education. Actually there are people who have graduated in my country, who for more than 15 years can use their certificate for anything because of no job. Unemployment is in the high side in my country, so I will go for the job than for the education.
Every right thinking person will seek the job first. On a second thought, for you to be able to work means that you have a level of education. Most persons limit education to only knowledge obtained in the school which is wrong. Even at home or at work, we are educated. In fact, even with University education, when you get a job, you will be given orientation and training which most times is completely different from your knowledge in University (some courses are exempted).
The importance of getting a job first lies in the fact that education involves money and so you need money to afford the basic fees and learning materials. When these are lacking it will become a challenge to focus and learn.
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Well, the title says it all already, so yeah, assuming you have two options and you are only supposed to make one choice, what would be your choice ?
Between to accept a well paying job and to go to the university and take a foure years program, which will you accept and why do you think it will be better choice for you?
Among the basic human needs, education is an important basic need and a human must get education as it is his birth right. No matter how much a person engages in income related work he must be well educated and after being educated many benefits and job opportunities are created for an educated person. But no matter how much income an uneducated person earns he has no special status for that income so for now I think a citizen must be educated first and then engage in various income dependent activities. I am in no way advocating work engagement over education first.
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Among the basic human needs, education is an important basic need and a human must get education as it is his birth right.
Being educated is important but you don't have to go to school to be educated. It is pitiable that our society recognizes only a person who attends a higher institution as educated. Even an O'level holder is not seen as educated and that is a very wrong mentality. Knowledge obtained from home, church, environment, and skill development centers is part of education. So, it will be difficult to see an individual who hasn't interfaced with any of these institutions to be called uneducated.
No matter how much a person engages in income related work he must be well-educated and after being educated many benefits and job opportunities are created for an educated person.
If you are from Nigeria you will have a contrary opinion. In Nigeria, there are a lot of graduates without jobs. Most of them are First Class graduates yet they are jobless. Here, being educated is not an automatic ticket for employment.
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I chose education. Education first before making money. The knowledge you acquire in school will help you in your future job. If chosen job and later the company wants a higher degree certificate before you could finish your school, what happens then? The way to fight poverty is through education.
Education is power.
Education is good and all that but I think I will go for the latter just because of the situation of things in my region, and am sure you will do the same if you are currently experiencing such detrimental features that the government have added to the system and moreover I think whatever school or education everyone is striving to attained is still tied to the fact that we are still getting all this for the purpose of wanting to make a good life for ourselves through money.
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I chose education. Education first before making money. The knowledge you acquire in school will help you in your future job. If chosen job and later the company wants a higher degree certificate before you could finish your school, what happens then? The way to fight poverty is through education.
Education is power.
Education is good and all that but I think I will go for the latter just because of the situation of things in my region, and am sure you will do the same if you are currently experiencing such detrimental features that the government have added to the system and moreover I think whatever school or education everyone is striving to attained is still tied to the fact that we are still getting all this for the purpose of wanting to make a good life for ourselves through money.
Yeah same here in my country, one should have atleast one skill that can be used to make decent amount of money as we all know not all can access higher education due some factors that is why some average people like me prefer an income generating job than pursuing a degree. Though there are a lot of ways to achieve that but it will take time before earning money. We only need atleast one skill from vocational courses so we can get from a decent or even a high paying salary.
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If you are from Nigeria you will have a contrary opinion. In Nigeria, there are a lot of graduates without jobs. Most of them are First Class graduates yet they are jobless. Here, being educated is not an automatic ticket for employment.
The same situation is in our country. A lot of degree holders do not have a job, they don't get any opportunity unless they have connections that can help them get in easily to any job (even if it is unrelated to their degree), as long as they get experience, they will take it. Some even have no other choice but to go and work abroad, since they don't get a job locally, they will sacrifice for the sake of their family and get work far from them.
I know this kind of situation not only happens in our country, but it is also one of the problems that every country encounters. Especially, a lot of new graduating students from the college are coming every year, which means a lot of upcoming people looking for a job.
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If you are from Nigeria you will have a contrary opinion. In Nigeria, there are a lot of graduates without jobs. Most of them are First Class graduates yet they are jobless. Here, being educated is not an automatic ticket for employment.
Well yeah same here in my country but the only advantage here in my country is that most people who are not able to enroll higher education or even graduated but is unable to find a job pursue their dreams by working overseas. They sacrifice being far from home and family just to give the kids, siblings and relatives a much better future because they don't want their love ones to be like them who skip school to find a decent paying job abroad and of course they do have huge contribution to the economy because of the money they sent home.
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Actually to me taking a job is the first thing I will go for, because with the job you can generating money for yourself and later you can choose to further your education. Actually there are people who have graduated in my country, who for more than 15 years can use their certificate for anything because of no job. Unemployment is in the high side in my country, so I will go for the job than for the education.
You are realistic, because the difference between work and education can be very different in its application. When we have worked, as you also said, continuing our education will be easy because we already have the money to do that. But with the education we have received, it is not certain that we will be able to find a suitable job, because we are faced with a diploma that must be adjusted.
But in principle, education is still needed and work must also be obtained. If both can be done simultaneously, it will certainly be better.
I will also take the job first, because I remember when I was in the university, students that have a job before comi2to school, saw life in a different way in the sense that they don't bother much on finance, and they took their study very serious. This is because there is hope for them that the moment they graduate and the their BSc, they would submit it to their office for an upgrade in level and salary. So I envied them then, because ours was not sure that we would get a job after school due to Nepotism and corruption in my country.
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Actually to me taking a job is the first thing I will go for, because with the job you can generating money for yourself and later you can choose to further your education. Actually there are people who have graduated in my country, who for more than 15 years can use their certificate for anything because of no job. Unemployment is in the high side in my country, so I will go for the job than for the education.
You are realistic, because the difference between work and education can be very different in its application. When we have worked, as you also said, continuing our education will be easy because we already have the money to do that. But with the education we have received, it is not certain that we will be able to find a suitable job, because we are faced with a diploma that must be adjusted.
But in principle, education is still needed and work must also be obtained. If both can be done simultaneously, it will certainly be better.
I will also take the job first, because I remember when I was in the university, students that have a job before comi2to school, saw life in a different way in the sense that they don't bother much on finance, and they took their study very serious. This is because there is hope for them that the moment they graduate and the their BSc, they would submit it to their office for an upgrade in level and salary. So I envied them then, because ours was not sure that we would get a job after school due to Nepotism and corruption in my country.
Haha sounds familiar to me. Nepotism is I think a nationwide problem here in my country as well or we might be on the same country if I am not mistaken. 😅 That is also my choice securing an income generating job as a priority would be more of a safe thing here in the country's situation.
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Even though it is hard to fulfil, I would say that before getting a higher education, a person must try to earn money on a regular job. A job that is not connected with any relative. Because working in a company that your parents own, or work with them is different from working alone. When a youngster feel with his skin how not easy it is to earn, his approach to education will be different. I have seen many students that go to university (specially those who aim to get bachelor degree) do that only to spend time, to get a paper in the end and enter adult world with empty head.
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Even though it is hard to fulfil, I would say that before getting a higher education, a person must try to earn money on a regular job. A job that is not connected with any relative. Because working in a company that your parents own, or work with them is different from working alone. When a youngster feel with his skin how not easy it is to earn, his approach to education will be different. I have seen many students that go to university (specially those who aim to get bachelor degree) do that only to spend time, to get a paper in the end and enter adult world with empty head.
Well yeah this should be what youngsters should be dealing with but it's an isolated case here when talking about businesses wherein member of their family is working for them but what is very common here in my country is politically related where family members, relatives and friends are priority. 😅
And you are correct it is really different experience when we work for other people rather than working with our family's or relatives businesses. And from that perspective approach to education would be different as well though not all but I think some of them do.
But for those unfortunate ones like me, we have no choice but to prioritize an income generating job than pursuing a degree. I know how hard it is but atleast I tried.
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I would have preferred education before income-generating a job but based on what I have seen and learned so far in today's world, uneducated beings can employ a graduate to work for them and they get paid them weekly or monthly depending on their agreement. Uneducated beings can choose to start schooling at any age they feel after they have made money, and being educated doesn't define one's success in life. One success in life depends on how they make use of their initiative or given talent to be useful for themselves and their families
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Don't you know with the way things are going currently job will be more preferable because when you chose work and established yourself you can likely run some part time program whereby you would still be working as well. I have seen people who had gone to school study for 4 year plus and comes back began to look for job, even as that they don't still secure the jobs they choose like having instead they go for under paid job like some of them go for taxi driving, waste carrier and other dirty jobs because they fails to understand this concepts that school isn't everything they need sometimes we needs skill and good paying job, most of the constructions company today are paying skill workers handsomely.
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Don't you know with the way things are going currently job will be more preferable because when you chose work and established yourself you can likely run some part time program whereby you would still be working as well. I have seen people who had gone to school study for 4 year plus and comes back began to look for job, even as that they don't still secure the jobs they choose like having instead they go for under paid job like some of them go for taxi driving, waste carrier and other dirty jobs because they fails to understand this concepts that school isn't everything they need sometimes we needs skill and good paying job, most of the constructions company today are paying skill workers handsomely.
Yeah same here in my place, graduates can't secure a decent job as well I just don't understand why a degree holder is having a hard time finding the job based on their qualification. Some of them will just go abroad and some other chose to apply on BPO's which is also not related to their respective courses.
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Don't you know with the way things are going currently job will be more preferable because when you chose work and established yourself you can likely run some part time program whereby you would still be working as well. I have seen people who had gone to school study for 4 year plus and comes back began to look for job, even as that they don't still secure the jobs they choose like having instead they go for under paid job like some of them go for taxi driving, waste carrier and other dirty jobs because they fails to understand this concepts that school isn't everything they need sometimes we needs skill and good paying job, most of the constructions company today are paying skill workers handsomely.
Yeah same here in my place, graduates can't secure a decent job as well I just don't understand why a degree holder is having a hard time finding the job based on their qualification. Some of them will just go abroad and some other chose to apply on BPO's which is also not related to their respective courses.
The reason most graduates aren't securing good jobs is that they are always fool of themselves whereby they would say they can't stoop so low going to do some kind of under paid job and, most of them would instead of them to start small they would look for something else to do. Maybe after years past and age is no longer on their side you would see them doing whatever job that comes across their ways even though it wasn't their dreamed job they don't have any choice to do it.
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Actually, to make a decision between two choices, your present condition is very important. If your parents are financially well off then I believe going for a four years degree would be a better choice. Because having a Bachelor degree is a must, if you want to apply for a good job. If you are financially in a weak position then taking a job will be better.
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Actually, to make a decision between two choices, your present condition is very important. If your parents are financially well off then I believe going for a four years degree would be a better choice. Because having a Bachelor degree is a must, if you want to apply for a good job. If you are financially in a weak position then taking a job will be better.
True and it all really depends upon someones situation. As we all know we prioritize what we badly needed than just wanted to achieve just like a degree. It all about survival we do have choices and what works with us best.
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Actually, to make a decision between two choices, your present condition is very important. If your parents are financially well off then I believe going for a four years degree would be a better choice. Because having a Bachelor degree is a must, if you want to apply for a good job. If you are financially in a weak position then taking a job will be better.
Taking a bachelor's degree will only be a waste of money, it's better when you graduate from school then you can go straight to work, after that you can take college with your own money, don't put the burden on your parents, they are too tired to earn money, Be independent people, we have to work, don't rely on your parents' money for too long.
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Between to accept a well paying job and to go to the university and take a four years program, which will you accept and why do you think it will be better choice for you?
It depends on the situation. If I have enough money, I will choose to have education on the university. But if I have limited money, I will choose getting a job. Taking an education on university without sufficient money seems a bit impossible, I think everyone won't do this in that situation. Even if education is important and has crucial role, it must be in the right situation. On the other hand, getting a job is a must for every individual. To fulfill daily necessities, every individual must have a job. Even after we take education on the university, our goal is to have a good job for our future life.
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take a job first then go to college if career advancement in the company requires a bachelor's degree for one position, because currently if you take college first there is no guarantee that there will be jobs in my country, where there is an age limit for new job applicants passed ,
So I prefer to work first if I have the opportunity first
You are completely right, and I think it's also advisable for people to choose work over education except they are from rich family or they are opportunite to study in school but if they are not privilege to go to school, then they should look for job that will be generating money, be it online or Manuel work, then be saving up some money, if they actually wants to go to school and just as you said, there are some works that require certificate which you can only provide if you are a graduate. So the two is good if only we plan ourselves well as the both can serve in our lives differently.
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take a job first then go to college if career advancement in the company requires a bachelor's degree for one position, because currently if you take college first there is no guarantee that there will be jobs in my country, where there is an age limit for new job applicants passed ,
So I prefer to work first if I have the opportunity first
You are completely right, and I think it's also advisable for people to choose work over education except they are from rich family or they are opportunite to study in school but if they are not privilege to go to school, then they should look for job that will be generating money, be it online or Manuel work, then be saving up some money, if they actually wants to go to school and just as you said, there are some works that require certificate which you can only provide if you are a graduate. So the two is good if only we plan ourselves well as the both can serve in our lives differently.
well if you consider AI in the future, what kind of job will you get after a 4 year program? if AI is already being used in office jobs, a graduate can still end up competing with manual laborer. with a 4 year program you will still land in a paying job after it.
but if a 10 year program which you have the choice to be a lawyer or a doctor, this will be a better option. you can practice your profession on your own and just have an office somewhere.
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Actually, to make a decision between two choices, your present condition is very important. If your parents are financially well off then I believe going for a four years degree would be a better choice. Because having a Bachelor degree is a must, if you want to apply for a good job. If you are financially in a weak position then taking a job will be better.
Now after pandemic our economic situation is very week, so i think job is first chose for most of the people’s i think. Even now a days Russia and Ukraine war impacted on world economy.
So now need stable life for us. And job gives us stable life. So i think income generating job is better and that is my first choose.
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Don't you know with the way things are going currently job will be more preferable because when you chose work and established yourself you can likely run some part time program whereby you would still be working as well. I have seen people who had gone to school study for 4 year plus and comes back began to look for job, even as that they don't still secure the jobs they choose like having instead they go for under paid job like some of them go for taxi driving, waste carrier and other dirty jobs because they fails to understand this concepts that school isn't everything they need sometimes we needs skill and good paying job, most of the constructions company today are paying skill workers handsomely.
Yeah same here in my place, graduates can't secure a decent job as well I just don't understand why a degree holder is having a hard time finding the job based on their qualification. Some of them will just go abroad and some other chose to apply on BPO's which is also not related to their respective courses.
The reason most graduates aren't securing good jobs is that they are always fool of themselves whereby they would say they can't stoop so low going to do some kind of under paid job and, most of them would instead of them to start small they would look for something else to do. Maybe after years past and age is no longer on their side you would see them doing whatever job that comes across their ways even though it wasn't their dreamed job they don't have any choice to do it.
Yeah exactly. That is actually what is happening most of the time I just understand but maybe they are also pressured for a specific course they don't like especially if their parents want something else instead of what their kids dreamed of achieving. That is what most students here in my country is experiencing during their college days. That is why they end up choosing a job not related to their field.
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Don't you know with the way things are going currently job will be more preferable because when you chose work and established yourself you can likely run some part time program whereby you would still be working as well. I have seen people who had gone to school study for 4 year plus and comes back began to look for job, even as that they don't still secure the jobs they choose like having instead they go for under paid job like some of them go for taxi driving, waste carrier and other dirty jobs because they fails to understand this concepts that school isn't everything they need sometimes we needs skill and good paying job, most of the constructions company today are paying skill workers handsomely.
Yeah same here in my place, graduates can't secure a decent job as well I just don't understand why a degree holder is having a hard time finding the job based on their qualification. Some of them will just go abroad and some other chose to apply on BPO's which is also not related to their respective courses.
The reason most graduates aren't securing good jobs is that they are always fool of themselves whereby they would say they can't stoop so low going to do some kind of under paid job and, most of them would instead of them to start small they would look for something else to do. Maybe after years past and age is no longer on their side you would see them doing whatever job that comes across their ways even though it wasn't their dreamed job they don't have any choice to do it.
Yeah exactly. That is actually what is happening most of the time I just understand but maybe they are also pressured for a specific course they don't like especially if their parents want something else instead of what their kids dreamed of achieving. That is what most students here in my country is experiencing during their college days. That is why they end up choosing a job not related to their field.
Usually every individual who knows what they want can never be pressured by their parents or wanting them to do what they don't really want to study in the higher institution and even if they study what their parents requested they would still end up doing the job they like without even related to their course of study in their tertiary and higher institution.
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As per your title i want to take a good paying job because the job is secure and earning money is a good way to lead my life. In accepting the job i have to do specific work and due to this i will be receiving monthly salary. But you have to work hard for education because if you study well you will get good result and points due to which you will get good job in future. But some people just go to university and don't study that means they just pass time and life as shelter. Suddenly one day they enter the world of adults but they have to spend a lot of time completing their education. Because they are not good in education, they give referrals every year.
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We have different opinions on what to choose first whether education or income generating job. But I will choose education because we all start with education to learn skills and apply them on the job. If you have an opportunity to have an education take it seriously and don't waste it.
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Well, the title says it all already, so yeah, assuming you have two options and you are only supposed to make one choice, what would be your choice ?
Between to accept a well paying job and to go to the university and take a foure years program, which will you accept and why do you think it will be better choice for you?
I am practical in life so I will choose a High paying Job and will generate more and more money , then when I already have thegood amount ? I will try having it double , meaning I will work while studying because for at least 5 years of working ? maybe I can find a decent position to let me have my study while in the line of working,from that i can have them both right?
life is not that cruel, it is for practical people and for those who knows how to managed everything
not jumping into one but trying to take them all.
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Don't you know with the way things are going currently job will be more preferable because when you chose work and established yourself you can likely run some part time program whereby you would still be working as well. I have seen people who had gone to school study for 4 year plus and comes back began to look for job, even as that they don't still secure the jobs they choose like having instead they go for under paid job like some of them go for taxi driving, waste carrier and other dirty jobs because they fails to understand this concepts that school isn't everything they need sometimes we needs skill and good paying job, most of the constructions company today are paying skill workers handsomely.
Yeah same here in my place, graduates can't secure a decent job as well I just don't understand why a degree holder is having a hard time finding the job based on their qualification. Some of them will just go abroad and some other chose to apply on BPO's which is also not related to their respective courses.
The reason most graduates aren't securing good jobs is that they are always fool of themselves whereby they would say they can't stoop so low going to do some kind of under paid job and, most of them would instead of them to start small they would look for something else to do. Maybe after years past and age is no longer on their side you would see them doing whatever job that comes across their ways even though it wasn't their dreamed job they don't have any choice to do it.
Yeah exactly. That is actually what is happening most of the time I just understand but maybe they are also pressured for a specific course they don't like especially if their parents want something else instead of what their kids dreamed of achieving. That is what most students here in my country is experiencing during their college days. That is why they end up choosing a job not related to their field.
Usually every individual who knows what they want can never be pressured by their parents or wanting them to do what they don't really want to study in the higher institution and even if they study what their parents requested they would still end up doing the job they like without even related to their course of study in their tertiary and higher institution.
Well yeah but the pressure is just a waste of time and effort for the students themselves because instead pf focusing to the main goal you try to satisfy what your parents wanted you to be because that is part of our culture since we are in an extended family thing that some other countries don't go that way.
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Usually every individual who knows what they want can never be pressured by their parents or wanting them to do what they don't really want to study in the higher institution and even if they study what their parents requested they would still end up doing the job they like without even related to their course of study in their tertiary and higher institution.
Well yeah but the pressure is just a waste of time and effort for the students themselves because instead pf focusing to the main goal you try to satisfy what your parents wanted you to be because that is part of our culture since we are in an extended family thing that some other countries don't go that way.
It's easier to listen to parents and their choice because as a child who is growing under parental care you must do everything to please them to enable you have this trust in them to take care of you till your education ends. But as you keep growing and began to realize that you need to have your self controlled than any other person you began to see the reason you must study what you want and not what they wanted, the Joy will longer be there, you will feel so bad and cheated because you didn't go for your dream course of study.
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I chose education. Education first before making money. The knowledge you acquire in school will help you in your future job. If chosen job and later the company wants a higher degree certificate before you could finish your school, what happens then? The way to fight poverty is through education.
Education is power.
Are you aware that there are those with degrees and good CVS but still have no job, usually they say that education is the key but over the years that has changed, I'm not disputing the fact that education is important, it is important because you need it to increase your cognitive reasoning and mental alertness, having the certificate is mandatory because this is the only way people would put you in high esteem especially in Nigeria but this isn't a criteria for success. It's wise to pick an income generating job, there's no guarantee that whatever you are going to learn in school would pay you as much as that job generating income for you
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take a job first then go to college if career advancement in the company requires a bachelor's degree for one position, because currently if you take college first there is no guarantee that there will be jobs in my country, where there is an age limit for new job applicants passed ,
So I prefer to work first if I have the opportunity first
Taking a job before going to college is actually a very good decision, most of my friends that did this back in our days in the university didn't struggle financially like those that don't have a job. Learning is easier when you have the resources for it. You are also right right about how hard it is to get a job after college, there are no guarantees of getting a well paying job so if you can secure a job before thinking about college it would be very helpful. Having an income generating job is more important this doesn't make education less important but on the scale of preference having something doing that generates income should be number one
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Taking a job before going to college is actually a very good decision, most of my friends that did this back in our days in the university didn't struggle financially like those that don't have a job.
this is actually ideal but also a bit difficult to achieve especially in my country where the most basic job even requires someone with a bachelor’s degree at minimum so if you want to work before college you’ll have a hard time finding one
however this does look good in your resume once you graduate college because sometimes even when you have a degree they still look for someone with experience and this experience is not just good for your resume but will teach you a lot in life as well
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Between to accept a well paying job and to go to the university and take a foure years program, which will you accept and why do you think it will be better choice for you?
This is an old topic started, but I will still like to share my opinion on it, and for this topic, I think the choice I will make will depend on the amount that the job pays. If it is a well-paying job, then I will choose the job because the purpose of this four-year program is to have a job, and if I already can have a well-paying job even without completing the four-year program, what is the purpose of the program? I consider that I have been employed more because of my skill than because of my educational qualification, which does not necessarily matter.
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Between to accept a well paying job and to go to the university and take a foure years program, which will you accept and why do you think it will be better choice for you?
This is an old topic started, but I will still like to share my opinion on it, and for this topic, I think the choice I will make will depend on the amount that the job pays. If it is a well-paying job, then I will choose the job because the purpose of this four-year program is to have a job, and if I already can have a well-paying job even without completing the four-year program, what is the purpose of the program? I consider that I have been employed more because of my skill than because of my educational qualification, which does not necessarily matter.
Well yeah but for me I'll definitely go practical in this case given the fact that I came from a poor family therefore income generating job is a must for me rather than getting a four year course that does not guarantee the salary rates are good compared to having vocational courses which I can choose what skill I had to acquire to get a decent income.
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Well yeah but for me I'll definitely go practical in this case given the fact that I came from a poor family therefore income generating job is a must for me rather than getting a four year course that does not guarantee the salary rates are good compared to having vocational courses which I can choose what skill I had to acquire to get a decent income.
As much as educations from four walls of the university doesn't guarantee anything, I think it's worth trying in places where it's value. I hope you know that despite the fact that things are hard, jobs are difficult to get, there are people that are getting their dream jobs because it's available in such places, that's why you see a lot of folks traveling to Canada.
However, the society see the practical learning reward more than the education and no matter how you gamble it, the physical always pay no matter how you play it but the educational doesn't guarantee anything especially if you come from a place where things are difficult to get.
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This is an old topic started, but I will still like to share my opinion on it, and for this topic, I think the choice I will make will depend on the amount that the job pays. If it is a well-paying job, then I will choose the job because the purpose of this four-year program is to have a job, and if I already can have a well-paying job even without completing the four-year program, what is the purpose of the program? I consider that I have been employed more because of my skill than because of my educational qualification, which does not necessarily matter.
Yeah it all depends on the nature of the job and how attractive the salary is. And it also depends on the individual involved. I have a very close friend who while he was pursuing his university admission, also applied for a job somewhere, according to him, it was his dream job and the salary was very attractive too, and i know if I’d say fortunately or unfortunately for him, there came an available slot when he was pursuing his admission to the university, he applied for the job and still went further to pursue his admission. Well he got the admission, and few weeks later, his name was also shortlisted for the job, he became confused which to take, it was indeed a tough decision to make, but he had to forfeit his admission to take up the job. Some might say he should’ve finished his school, but in a country where jobs don’t come in so easily everyday, even for graduates and degree holders, I think he mad the right choice.
Na fortunately for him, his job was the kind that allowed him to take a part time program in the university, so he took it a year later and so he kept the job and still had his degree.
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Depends on financial condition, if I can manage my basic needs then I would choose to go to a college because having a degree guarantees future job security too, or at least increases chances to have one in future.
If there is urgency of basic needs then due to circumstances, of course one has to choose job.
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Well yeah but for me I'll definitely go practical in this case given the fact that I came from a poor family therefore income generating job is a must for me rather than getting a four year course that does not guarantee the salary rates are good compared to having vocational courses which I can choose what skill I had to acquire to get a decent income.
Yeah having a degree is a good thing but when faced with these two options, there’s a lot to put into consideration before making a decision, first you’ll consider your financial state, your background and your country’s economic status. For some countries, securing a job isn’t that difficult as long as you e got a degree. While this isn’t the case for many other countries so if you happen to find yourself in a country where getting a job isn’t difficult then taking the 4 years course would be a more preferable option since you’re sure that you can get another job easily as soon as you’re done with your course.
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Usually every individual who knows what they want can never be pressured by their parents or wanting them to do what they don't really want to study in the higher institution and even if they study what their parents requested they would still end up doing the job they like without even related to their course of study in their tertiary and higher institution.
Well yeah but the pressure is just a waste of time and effort for the students themselves because instead pf focusing to the main goal you try to satisfy what your parents wanted you to be because that is part of our culture since we are in an extended family thing that some other countries don't go that way.
It's easier to listen to parents and their choice because as a child who is growing under parental care you must do everything to please them to enable you have this trust in them to take care of you till your education ends. But as you keep growing and began to realize that you need to have your self controlled than any other person you began to see the reason you must study what you want and not what they wanted, the Joy will longer be there, you will feel so bad and cheated because you didn't go for your dream course of study.
Exactly. Seems a prisoner of your own detention cell of some sort. But yeah some find it okay and some are not that sometimes end them up not getting all the efforts worth it because for them it's the pressure that keeps on pushing them to finish what their parents wanted though it is still up to us whether we will do it or not but it is also in our conscience to disappoint them. 😅
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If the job offer paid well, even without a degree, I would pick the job and go to school part-time as I believe in the value of education. For others, it would depend on where they are. In many countries, most jobs require a college degree and they may have little choice.
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Well yeah but for me I'll definitely go practical in this case given the fact that I came from a poor family therefore income generating job is a must for me rather than getting a four year course that does not guarantee the salary rates are good compared to having vocational courses which I can choose what skill I had to acquire to get a decent income.
Yeah having a degree is a good thing but when faced with these two options, there’s a lot to put into consideration before making a decision, first you’ll consider your financial state, your background and your country’s economic status. For some countries, securing a job isn’t that difficult as long as you e got a degree. While this isn’t the case for many other countries so if you happen to find yourself in a country where getting a job isn’t difficult then taking the 4 years course would be a more preferable option since you’re sure that you can get another job easily as soon as you’re done with your course.
It depends on the situation because not everyone has the same chances or money. Getting a degree makes sense for some people, but for others, jumping into a job with useful skills right away might be the better choice. but allowed a degree we should gasp it because it can open a lot of opportunities.
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Even though getting a degree is not supposed to be only for job still it's been used for only that purpose so if there's a choice that pick a job or get a degree then picking up the job seems the smart way because we skip 4 years and also we start 4 years earlier in our money making that's a big advantage if we consider the compounding effect.
But it's not that simple, people can achieve both at same time or they can't even make use of either.
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Education will be the best to choose, but looking at the present world settings, I think I will choose income-generating jobs.
My reason is that there's no promised job to be given after education, and those who are educated end up having a low-class job that is owned by uneducated beings. Those who didn't pass through the four walls of education but were rich, to employ the educated ones to work for them.
However, if I could have an income-generating job and work for years, I believe I would save a lot of money that I can use to start up my own business, which, in the end, I can employ an educated someone who will work under my command. I can choose to attend any school of my choice, if there's need for it, while I also earn and run my business together
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Education will be the best to choose, but looking at the present world settings, I think I will choose income-generating jobs.
My reason is that there's no promised job to be given after education, and those who are educated end up having a low-class job that is owned by uneducated beings. Those who didn't pass through the four walls of education but were rich, to employ the educated ones to work for them.
However, if I could have an income-generating job and work for years, I believe I would save a lot of money that I can use to start up my own business, which, in the end, I can employ an educated someone who will work under my command. I can choose to attend any school of my choice, if there's need for it, while I also earn and run my business together
We can understand the significance of gaining valuable working experience and receiving monetary income though employment means that people will be ready for the future challenges more while taking the necessary steps. Selecting employment during the process of saving for our business ventures makes a lot of sense, and in the process we can gain knowledge and contacts. It means that education is an effective tool which we are able to regulate time to get necessary results at needed moment. By using our work experience, increased knowledge and leadership skills we can expand possibilities to achieve more successful long-term results, occupying the positions of both, entrepreneurs and successful professionals.
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I don't know of others but for me it will be the greatest mistake of my life if I choose education over well paid job. Education is good if you have the chance to attend then better but you must make sure you are very sure of a nice job after schooling if not you are at the point of square 1 starting from the scratch. There are many graduates in my country regretting spending their money and years in school.
But I haven't seen anyone making good money without education seeking to even leave their job and go to school.
In the world now money is the answer not education
Education is no longer the key.
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take a job first then go to college if career advancement in the company requires a bachelor's degree for one position, because currently if you take college first there is no guarantee that there will be jobs in my country, where there is an age limit for new job applicants passed ,
So I prefer to work first if I have the opportunity first
Yeah bro that's exactly the truth. In my country people are flaunting their certificates any how on the streets looking for job that won't worth what they studied as a course in the school just seeking for survival, there are many graduates who are now looking for jobs more than the ones who did not even attend a basic. I really feel bad when I see graduates explaining themselves to people to show how severe they have sought for jobs in every nooks and crannies. My advice is if anyone has a job, hold it very tight before education far as you can read and write you are not an illiterate, even if you are but has the money no one would have the god's to come and tell you to your face that you are an illiterate instead their are graduates craving for the attention of some illiterate millionaires.
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Re: Education or Income Generating job, which will you chose first?
This will depend on the person answering for this one because there are some people out there that can't afford education at first hence, they prefer finding a job first, save their income and then going to school to finish their education. There are some though that are going straight and study and then they will find a good job.
I'll be a bit bias with my answer because I graduated from College. I will always choose finishing education first then finding a job. I mean in school, they will teach you the fundamentals that will shape you in the future. They will equip you with knowledge that will help you find better jobs along the way. They will not teach you step-by-step of course but at least you will have an idea. Finding a job will be easier if you have finished your education. I'm not saying though that finishing education is a requirement for us to find a job because I've seen people that didn't finish their education and yet, they had a job and some even became successful ones as well.
If you finish your education first, the opportunities are limitless hence, I will go education first then finding a job.
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There are many graduates in my country regretting spending their money and years in school.
But I haven't seen anyone making good money without education seeking to even leave their job and go to school.
In the world now money is the answer not education
Education is no longer the key.
i do think that this is because of the system of the world not that education is useless now but we have to take a step back and think why is it so hard to find a job nowadays even if you are qualified
fresh graduates find it hard to find jobs because companies are looking for people with experience already and if you have none of that you will find it difficult to apply for anything aside from that there’s really lack of job opportunities and it is something every government should look at and maybe changing education curriculum can help in making sure that students are properly equipped for the workforce
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Both education and job are very important to an individual, for instance you need to be educated and it will serve as your guidelines in any job you have, on the other hand you need money for the education, therefore you need a well paying job for you to earn a living and also you need more money before you engage yourself in any educational sector, as long as you don't have any sponsorship, or unless you receive external financial assistance, Education and a well paying job are important for an individual's growth and success, education provides the foundation and skills necessary for a successful career, while a good paying work provides the financial stability to pursue further education and improve one's growth.
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It all depends on us, I can tell that I have seen an educated fellow with many qualifications but couldn't have any potential ability at hand to make him succeed in doing or running a business, this becomes a big issue for them and makes some to remain being poor because they are on the same spot over a long time, while on the contrary, we can still discover about some other people who are working tirelessly in making an effective use of their opportunities, either on a job or in the field of academic learning, all that we can do today is to learn to combine all together and build on something credible from them, anyone equipped of the required standard will always be given priority of maximizing the two altogether.
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Well, the title says it all already, so yeah, assuming you have two options and you are only supposed to make one choice, what would be your choice ?
Between to accept a well paying job and to go to the university and take a foure years program, which will you accept and why do you think it will be better choice for you?
The fact is having a good paying job is good but that should not make you to play down the role of education in life as it is key and very essential in how far you can go in life so if I have the opportunity of choosing between the two I will choose going to acquire knowledge in the university because education is key and goes a long way in the making process of any individual who's serious about making impact
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The fact is having a good paying job is good but that should not make you to play down the role of education in life as it is key and very essential in how far you can go in life so if I have the opportunity of choosing between the two I will choose going to acquire knowledge in the university because education is key and goes a long way in the making process of any individual who's serious about making impact
Indeed the importance of knowledge and education can never be overemphasized and most people would also preferably choose to acquire knowledge over taking up the job, but then again, there are several things one needs to first put into adequate consideration before making a choice. For example, in a country where getting a sound education is rather expensive you need to first ask yourself if you’ve got the required resources to see yourself through the whole programme, or you just wanna first go in and then face whatever that comes up head on?
Without a solid financial backup when it comes to school and education, you’ll encounter several problems and challenges that’ll make you even lose your concentration in your academic responsibilities which of course may likely affect your grades. If you have the financial resources and backing to pursue a degree, then of course, but if you don’t, the best option would to take up the job, save up for your education and in the future you can still enrol either for full time or part time course, and you’ll still earn knowledge and the degree, it’s like killing 2 birds with 1 stone.