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Learning & News => For Beginners => Basic questions about this forum => Topic started by: DannyD234 on February 03, 2024, 03:02:27 AM
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Hi I'm new to the forum
I was wondering is karma more important than point or the other way round
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Points is a reward the forum gives you for your good contribution, they can be changed to the forum tokens.
Karma is the way other users evaluate your posts: if they like them they can give +karma, if they really dislike your behavior they can give -karma.
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Hi I'm new to the forum
I was wondering is karma more important than point or the other way round
From my point of view: Karma is more important than Points, so let's focus on Karma.
Points only help you get AltcoinsTalks forum ALTT tokens. ALTT tokens can be traded on Pancake Swap or burned for some special purposes. You can read more information about Points in The Guide to get your tokens (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=9231.0).
I believe that ALTT cannot make you rich in this market, it is considered a small reward to give you more motivation to learn and be active on the forum 💪
Karma is one of the necessary requirements to Rank up. With a high enough rank, you can participate in signature campaigns on the forum to receive very attractive rewards. You can refer to LIVE bounty campaigns on AltcoinsTalks forum (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=180177).
So try to create posts with good quality to get more Karma, instead of creating long posts to get more Points ^^
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Points is a reward the forum gives you for your good contribution, they can be changed to the forum tokens.
Karma is the way other users evaluate your posts: if they like them they can give +karma, if they really dislike your behavior they can give -karma.
So every member should desire to acquire more karma because it defines your reputation here on Altcoinstalks, the more quality posts you provide and contribute here, the more reputable you become, and because karma can be deducted we must maintain our reputation here so karma can be deducted and increased based on your reputation here, and since we cannot see who gives us and deduct our karma there is no drama and there is no conflict between members.
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I was wondering is karma more important than point or the other way round
Why do you need to compare between karma and point?
Both karma and point are important because it shows your contribution in forum. If you more often contributed in this forum, you will have more points. Being active will also make people to reward us with karma. I don't have many karmas, but I think it is good enough to see karma in our profile because of our contribution. I'm sure it won't be difficult to get karma if we are active in this forum.
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Hi I'm new to the forum
I was wondering is karma more important than point or the other way round
Both Karma and points are significant in this forum. Karma can be considered similar to the likes or dislikes you receive on your posts. In other words, the more Karma you have, the more quality or helpful posts you have created that many users have benefited from or gained knowledge about. On the other hand, the points that you earn on the platform can be exchanged for ALTS tokens. The more points you accumulate, the more ALTS tokens you can obtain.
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Hi I'm new to the forum
I was wondering is karma more important than point or the other way round
I think karma is more better because your points will increase on the basis of karma you will get, but not solely due to karma, as posts, online time, and there must be other factors included too that take part in the increment of points. Both have different purposes, points can bring altt tokens for you while karma will bring rank to you.
If you wanted to rank rather than earning ALTT tokens then you should focus on how to contribute to this forum, and you will start getting karmas and points as well, to be very honest, I don't know how I got this much points, I was not focusing on them either. So I say karma are most important.
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Hi I'm new to the forum
I was wondering is karma more important than point or the other way round
Hi, welcome to the forum, I would say that Karma is much important than the points that we get for our contribution. The Karma can't be earned because it's a thing that you will get when other members find your posts valuable.
If you make some good posts then you'll get some karma but making more posts will be enough for you to earn points. If you really want to earn positive karma then post informative stuff here on this forum but if your main concern is to earn points then you can make more posts on daily basis.
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I was wondering is karma more important than point or the other way round
It depends on which one you think is important to you, like other members have said in this topic, the forum rewards you with points, points can be converted to forum tokens, but it would not be worth too much, so don't think you can get rich through earning points in the forum. Karma is earned through other members, so if you make good posts, other members reward you with + karma, so i think karma is more important, but you may have other ideas.
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Points are rewarded in the forum based on your participation volumes while kama are rewards issued by forum members based on how interesting and quality posts are formed.
Meanwhile... The kama enhances you with the chances to elevate your rank while points is a measurement stipulating the level of your participations.
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Hi I'm new to the forum
I was wondering is karma more important than point or the other way round
The two are important, you earn karma as trust and this shows how committed you have been in giving out informations through your post being made, if you get points, it shows how you have been active and posting, you can later choose to withdraw your points or leave to continue accumulating, but you can't sell your karma, you just earn it for add ups to your profile trust, the more you advance in posts and rank then you will experience more of these
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Points is a reward the forum gives you for your good contribution, they can be changed to the forum tokens.
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Is there a formula for points? I've noticed that my number of points hasn't moved for a few days now, so I'm just wondering how that part works?
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Points is a reward the forum gives you for your good contribution, they can be changed to the forum tokens.
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Is there a formula for points? I've noticed that my number of points hasn't moved for a few days now, so I'm just wondering how that part works?
The admin posted an update on February 7th stating that there will be a change in the way points are earned. Instead of getting points for every post, you will only receive points if you create a new topic. Please note that this change is only effective for one week.
View more information here and a few discussions about the update.
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=317216.msg1491983#msg1491983
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Hi I'm new to the forum
I was wondering is karma more important than point or the other way round
You won't want to neglect either of them, as they serve different purposes on the forum. Earning positive+Karma means your post/replies are quite satisfying, and you could also issue one out when you've reached the required rank. You also earn points from post which you could also convert to ATT tokens.
They all have their own benefit and applications on the forum, so you should consider aiming to get both.
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As I will always say, it is better to have the two altogether than only of one them, one will serves as the proof for your consistent quality posts and the other for trust, once you're trusted then that's all, other members will always find a quality taughts concerning the post you're making, knowing that the consistency in what you're giving is worth being reliable, and not like those that post shits.
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@DannyD234, Welcome to the forum. You need karma and points on the forum, which is not really hard to archive. If you contribute positively on the forum, you will receive some karma from fellow members who appreciate the idea you have shared, while you will intentionally earn free points any time you make a post. The points are converted to forum coins, just like jokers already said. Karma is important because you will need it when others achieve some other high rank.
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@DannyD234, Welcome to the forum. You need karma and points on the forum, which is not really hard to archive. If you contribute positively on the forum, you will receive some karma from fellow members who appreciate the idea you have shared, while you will intentionally earn free points any time you make a post. The points are converted to forum coins, just like jokers already said. Karma is important because you will need it when others achieve some other high rank.
To make it simple,
Points = ALTT tokens (you can use it to delete posts or use this to try other features of the forum where you can find the information in the Shop. In short, it is money.
Karma = number of how many of your posts liked by other forum members, it means your contribution to sharing knowledge and useful information. It's the same as receiving a good deed.
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Hi I'm new to the forum
I was wondering is karma more important than point or the other way round
I think Karma is important, it shows how you contributed in this community. Points might come along with your posting here.
So just don't overthink it specially if you are a "beginner" here, as you gain more experience and feel comfortable here, for sure those two are going to come to you. So best of luck in your journey here.
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Hi I'm new to the forum
I was wondering is karma more important than point or the other way round
I think Karma is important, it shows how you contributed in this community. Points might come along with your posting here.
So just don't overthink it specially if you are a "beginner" here, as you gain more experience and feel comfortable here, for sure those two are going to come to you. So best of luck in your journey here.
I agree, that karma is not necessary yet for OP's current rank since it is only required by higher ranks to achieve a more higher rank. It's better to focus on accumulating points while the rank is still low and not worry about karma for now. The best approach is to explore the forum and absorb as much information as possible to become more knowledgeable.
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I find karma is harder to earn than points, so I assume karma is better. To be able to get karma, we have to contribute to this forum or make a post that is useful for many people. Of course this cannot be done with post spam.
Meanwhile, as far as I know, points will increase as long as we post on this forum. The more posts you make, the more points you can get.
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As for now point is more important than Karma but my instinct says that time will come that karma will be utilize and it will be much more important than point in the forum. Time is coming that karma will be use like Merit in the bitcointalk. There will be a specific number of karma that one will have to enter into signature campaign. And if your don't have that number. So I advise everyone to create good post to receive +karma from now.
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Why it will be difficult for either of these to be abused is that we don't have access to them, we cant know who is throwing karma at us and we cannot do same on whom we don't know, also about the points, everything lies on the way we post on the forum, the more active we are making posts, the more the points we earn increases upon every completed posts for each day.
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The both are useful in the forum, just that the karma is giving by other advanced members of the forum if they find your post interesting or good, while the forum gives you points when you post...
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The both are useful in the forum, just that the karma is giving by other advanced members of the forum if they find your post interesting or good, while the forum gives you points when you post...
I rate karma higher than points. My reason is that karma is like getting a thumbs up for a good post and so having karma shows that you are making an engaging post and so you should keep up but you can get points even when you are not making an engaging post. If my karma increases I will be happy but getting your points increased appears so normal and common compared to karma.
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The both are useful in the forum, just that the karma is giving by other advanced members of the forum if they find your post interesting or good, while the forum gives you points when you post...
I rate karma higher than points. My reason is that karma is like getting a thumbs up for a good post and so having karma shows that you are making an engaging post and so you should keep up but you can get points even when you are not making an engaging post. If my karma increases I will be happy but getting your points increased appears so normal and common compared to karma.
That's right, Karma is actually a reference that the person has contributed a lot to this forum so that the appreciation they get from the members is sharing positive karma with that user. Karma is also not easy to get now because it is currently being supervised directly by the admin.
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The both are useful in the forum, just that the karma is giving by other advanced members of the forum if they find your post interesting or good, while the forum gives you points when you post...
I rate karma higher than points. My reason is that karma is like getting a thumbs up for a good post and so having karma shows that you are making an engaging post and so you should keep up but you can get points even when you are not making an engaging post. If my karma increases I will be happy but getting your points increased appears so normal and common compared to karma.
That's right, Karma is actually a reference that the person has contributed a lot to this forum so that the appreciation they get from the members is sharing positive karma with that user. Karma is also not easy to get now because it is currently being supervised directly by the admin.
What do you mean by being supervised directly by the admin?
When giving karma to another user, you don't need to be supervised by the admin. The admin gives anyone from senior member rank and above the authority to send karma whether it is positive or negative on their own. No one needs supervision as it will be a lot of work for the admin.
And this is where our responsibility comes in. We need to be responsible enough and avoid abusing the karma system. Especially the negative karma, not because we don't agree with some other user's opinion, we will immediately give them a negative karma. The same as positive karma, we should always be responsible and avoid any abuse in the system.
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Having the two just the best , though posting more would give you more points as the same time posting more shit post in order to earn points for your self would reduce the chances of you getting karma's, because having good number of karma's shows that you're really contributing, and would encourage you to keep on posting quality post to earn your self some merit from others users who found your post interesting or contributing. So you be active always and enhancing your knowledge inorder to keep posting quality post and earning some karma's and same time some good points that can be latet converted to a certain amount of altcoin token .
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Contributions are reflected in points and karma earned via active participation in the forum. As more people take notice of your contributions, you gain more points and karma. Being active is therefore essential for incentives and recognition.
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Contributions are reflected in points and karma earned via active participation in the forum. As more people take notice of your contributions, you gain more points and karma. Being active is therefore essential for incentives and recognition.
There may be some truth to the points system you explained, but the current karma system is very different, you have to be more careful before giving karma, you should often share positive karma for members here and don't abuse the karma system.
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Hi I'm new to the forum
I was wondering is karma more important than point or the other way round
Recently, I saw an update where the admin mentioned that currently karma doesn't matter for ranking up. Now we have to understand what is karma is, if you post a quality full post and it is helpful for users then users will give you karma. So to get Karma you must post quality posts and that's why I think karma points are more important.
Because on the other hand, since you only keep the points and earning points is by increasing the post activity, now a user can increase the post activity in any way by spamming, by posting non-quality full posts, or by bounty campaign. Here maybe the user will get more points and can earn some cents by burning them, but if you want to increase the reputation, you must post quality post and as a result, karma will increase. But remember one thing that karma farming, admin do check this, so a smart user definitely don't want cheater tag on his account.
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Recently, I saw an update where the admin mentioned that currently karma doesn't matter for ranking up.
It is probably so, at least for the lesser ranks, but these things can change on this forum with time. Ranking up requirements today are already not the same they were when I just came here, and they can be changed in the future. So no need paying too much attention to that, just enjoy your communication on the forum, share your ideas and news, stay positive and friendly and you'll get everything: karma, points, ranks, forum tokens, etc. ;)
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It is probably so, at least for the lesser ranks, but these things can change on this forum with time. Ranking up requirements today are already not the same they were when I just came here, and they can be changed in the future. So no need paying too much attention to that, just enjoy your communication on the forum, share your ideas and news, stay positive and friendly and you'll get everything: karma, points, ranks, forum tokens, etc. ;)
You are right, I would like to agree with you. I actually mean that the main thing is to focus on the quality of the posts. Now since the ranking can done by only with the post activity, in this case many users will be seen who will only do spamming or like burst posting on bounty campaigns. And I think that there will be no benefit by these kind of ranking up. Quality posts are more important than Karma or earning points. I think quality does matters more than quantity of everything and when the post quality will increase every thing will go up as well as.
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Now since the ranking can done by only with the post activity, in this case many users will be seen who will only do spamming or like burst posting on bounty campaigns. And I think that there will be no benefit by these kind of ranking up. Quality posts are more important than Karma or earning points.
Campaign managers know that ranking up is not so hard on our forum and there's no difference in signature code different ranks can wear, so they pay less attention to the rank and much more attention to other things, and the quality of posts is among the most important. Negative and positive badges forum can give is also important and, as far as I know, campaign managers keep that in mind. For instance negative quality badge (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=319457.0) holders are already not accepted to some campaigns at all.
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Being active will also make people to reward us with karma. I don't have many karmas, but I think it is good enough to see karma in our profile because of our contribution. I'm sure it won't be difficult to get karma if we are active in this forum.
I'm not sure if this is right, but from what I've heard about the Karma system, it's similar to the merit system, and + Karma is only granted to useful posts, so being active doesn't help much. One could be here for 2-3 years and still struggle to get some, while another could be here for a few weeks and get a lot of + Karmas, so it's all about quality, just as on the other forum. Although the Karma system can be abuse easily given that any high-ranking account is able to give one while not receiving any (I gave out one +Karma while having zero Karma)
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I'm not sure if this is right, but from what I've heard about the Karma system, it's similar to the merit system, and + Karma is only granted to useful posts, so being active doesn't help much. One could be here for 2-3 years and still struggle to get some, while another could be here for a few weeks and get a lot of + Karmas, so it's all about quality, just as on the other forum. Although the Karma system can be abuse easily given that any high-ranking account is able to give one while not receiving any (I gave out one +Karma while having zero Karma)
When a user is active it is supposed to be to contribute quality conversations and opinions, not to do nothing, which is why I don't agree with you 100%.
As for the karma system, it cannot be easily manipulated as you say, since it has restrictions. Each user can only give 1 positive or negative karma to the same user every 10 hours. In case a user receives a lot of negative or positive karma, the administrator will be able to see it in the logs and take necessary action.
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I'm not sure if this is right, but from what I've heard about the Karma system, it's similar to the merit system, and + Karma is only granted to useful posts, so being active doesn't help much. One could be here for 2-3 years and still struggle to get some, while another could be here for a few weeks and get a lot of + Karmas, so it's all about quality, just as on the other forum. Although the Karma system can be abuse easily given that any high-ranking account is able to give one while not receiving any (I gave out one +Karma while having zero Karma)
When a user is active it is supposed to be to contribute quality conversations and opinions, not to do nothing, which is why I don't agree with you 100%.
We're partially saying the same thing here ; Karma is not earned based on activities but quality contributions, if I look around I'm likely going to see active accounts with bunch of posts and no single positive karma.
As for the karma system, it cannot be easily manipulated as you say, since it has restrictions. Each user can only give 1 positive or negative karma to the same user every 10 hours. In case a user receives a lot of negative or positive karma, the administrator will be able to see it in the logs and take necessary action.
I got abused (Karma)on my first day here and admin came to my rescue. I like.it.
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I'm not sure if this is right, but from what I've heard about the Karma system, it's similar to the merit system, and + Karma is only granted to useful posts, so being active doesn't help much. One could be here for 2-3 years and still struggle to get some, while another could be here for a few weeks and get a lot of + Karmas, so it's all about quality, just as on the other forum. Although the Karma system can be abuse easily given that any high-ranking account is able to give one while not receiving any (I gave out one +Karma while having zero Karma)
When a user is active it is supposed to be to contribute quality conversations and opinions, not to do nothing, which is why I don't agree with you 100%.
We're partially saying the same thing here ; Karma is not earned based on activities but quality contributions, if I look around I'm likely going to see active accounts with bunch of posts and no single positive karma.
As for the karma system, it cannot be easily manipulated as you say, since it has restrictions. Each user can only give 1 positive or negative karma to the same user every 10 hours. In case a user receives a lot of negative or positive karma, the administrator will be able to see it in the logs and take necessary action.
I got abused (Karma)on my first day here and admin came to my rescue. I like.it.
The number of posts by a user does not have much relevance, since what should prevail is the quality of those posts. Users with many posts and little karma are usually users who post LQP with the sole purpose of increasing their account rank in order to participate in signature campaigns.
Just because you've received 1 or 2 negative karma doesn't mean the system has been rigged against you, it just means, from what I've read, that your reputation (deserved or not) precedes you. The negative karma probably comes from some BTT user who is on this forum, but don't give it too much importance. You should already know that if you (or any user) receive karma abuse, the administrator can put things back in their place, and the author or authors of that abuse will be punished.
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Hi I'm new to the forum
I was wondering is karma more important than point or the other way round
Most likely a few days ago the point was closed in lieu of posting. Basically by breaking the points you earn by posting you can buy the coins specific to this forum. This is the work of points, on the other hand karma is a different matter. Karma You may not be able to buy coins by breaking like points but when you see positive karma on your profile it means that your posts are of good quality. Your post is quality and the post is informative enough that second or third party is giving you positive karma. Now all the new members who come to this forum may not be able to earn points but they can earn karma right away.
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Points is a reward the forum gives you for your good contribution, they can be changed to the forum tokens.
Karma is the way other users evaluate your posts: if they like them they can give +karma, if they really dislike your behavior they can give -karma.
It is important as a forum member that you engage in the evaluation of the post and contributions of other forum members by giving karma to post that deserve it, because in doing so, you assist other forum members who may be new to see and identify forum members who are good members of this forum, and also be careful with others.
Karma is not the only factor to judge a good forum member though because there are some good forum members who have little karma because the people who have come across their post have been stingy with karmas, or not know how to give Karma.
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Karma is not the only factor to judge a good forum member though. There are some good forum members who have little karma because the people who have come across their post have been stingy with karmas, or do not know how to give Karma.
I am literally new to this forum but not for crypto-related pieces of stuff which makes me have less Karma under my profile and thanks to the teleporting system which helped me to have the rank which I have on BTT.
I try to be on topic, post that contains some information, and learn a lot from others. Still have to make giving Karma a habit different from meriting, which I have yet to get used to.
+1.
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Hi I'm new to the forum
I was wondering is karma more important than point or the other way round
both are important but karma is one thing that represent your account in a manner compared to points than just showing how active you are,
but better to consider them both as important part of your ATT account .
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I do think that both plays a vital role. Karma truly isn't the biggest factor to consider but still it is essential in the forum. Points also contribute a lot to see how active you are in the forum. To sum it up, both are important because karma shows how well do people like you and points shows how active you are.
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I do think that both plays a vital role. Karma truly isn't the biggest factor to consider but still it is essential in the forum. Points also contribute a lot to see how active you are in the forum. To sum it up, both are important because karma shows how well do people like you and points shows how active you are.
Maybe for now, but if you are reading for discussions regarding Karma, you will know that it might be one of the thing we need to consider, just like this one. The admin have a plan to change the ranking system, so we better watch for it.
Is it possible to associate karma with increasing rank?. That the minimum karma to rank up is at least 0 or more?.
And see admin's response...
will implement in next change to the ranking system, soon
adding one more to that,
I change the ranking as i see fit ... I do not want anyone to know the process, to avoid abuse.
For campaigns, some require good karma, others don't.
This is required to some signature campaign, even if we don't consider the possible major updates that might happen soon about karma, it is essential to participate in some campaigns.
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Is it possible to associate karma with increasing rank?. That the minimum karma to rank up is at least 0 or more?.
And see admin's response...
The administrator's response is precisely what I expected, but a little earlier :o In any case, I suppose that at the time I made the proposal maybe the problem was more focused on spam than other things, but fortunately in the next update we will see something that will help the forum more. Now that some signature campaigns will require a certain amount of karma, it is the best time to implement it.
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Is it possible to associate karma with increasing rank?. That the minimum karma to rank up is at least 0 or more?.
And see admin's response...
The administrator's response is precisely what I expected, but a little earlier :o In any case, I suppose that at the time I made the proposal maybe the problem was more focused on spam than other things, but fortunately in the next update we will see something that will help the forum more. Now that some signature campaigns will require a certain amount of karma, it is the best time to implement it.
Maybe one factor of why the admin decided to have an earlier update regarding your request to associate karma with increasing rank is because a lot of accounts have suddenly become active, or some members decided to rush ranking up to participate in the increasing numbers of signature campaigns. This is an unexpected event for most of us that the mixer's campaign has brought here.
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This is an unexpected event for most of us that the mixer's campaign has brought here.
Yes, I highly agree with you, many members who are new on this forum try their best to rank up as soon as they possibly can by making so many posts on daily basis. I believe if the members who are making very good quality, helpful posts then there's nothing wrong even if they can rank in a few days to be eligible for the signature campaigns.
But if they create more posts which're more like spam posts then that's not a good thing and I believe in such case, it's far better have some karma requirement for ranking up. That way only those members who can earn some good amount of karma by creating helpful posts may get rank up, and such users would be helpful participants for signature campaigns if we see the positive side of the picture.
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-snip- it's far better have some karma requirement for ranking up. That way only those members who can earn some good amount of karma by creating helpful posts may get rank up, -snip-
In the past (2018), Admin used karma as one of the conditions for reaching Sr. Member rank and above. Its function is similar to the merit system on Bitcointalk.
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We will adopt 2 strategies to increasing difficulties:
1- Post count: all ranks above Jnr member, will gradually increase the post requirement, this will never stop, but we will not apply huge post incrementation at a time. This will be continual, pushing the members to continuous contributions, adaptation and evolution. We call this The Red Queen effect (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Queen_hypothesis).
2- Time & Karma requirements: time requirement will be introduced at one stage, it will limit the ranking up to 1-3 ranks per month.
Karma requirement will be applied only for Snr ranks and above /it is a merit system that would help the best members to reach the top positions.
However, if we refer to the new rank system: Everything You Need To Know About Forum Ranks. (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=316199.msg1480421#msg1480421)
It seems that the karma requirements for Snr rank and above are not clearly stated even though Admin said there:
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Other factors will also be required for ranks: Karma , activity, time ...
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This is an unexpected event for most of us that the mixer's campaign has brought here.
Yes, I highly agree with you, many members who are new on this forum try their best to rank up as soon as they possibly can by making so many posts on daily basis. I believe if the members who are making very good quality, helpful posts then there's nothing wrong even if they can rank in a few days to be eligible for the signature campaigns.
But if they create more posts which're more like spam posts then that's not a good thing and I believe in such case, it's far better have some karma requirement for ranking up. That way only those members who can earn some good amount of karma by creating helpful posts may get rank up, and such users would be helpful participants for signature campaigns if we see the positive side of the picture.
But the thing is, what this community got from those new users is mostly plagiarism or AI-generated text which is not welcome. Instead of having a more user who can contribute to this forum, more work especially for moderators to take action regarding their violations.
That's true, having a karma requirement will somehow solve the issue but we should expect the upcoming problems such as abuse in karma, and so on. So, the admin and moderators might have more work (but for the better). I know they have countermeasures with these problems, but yeah, it's a load of work.
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But the thing is, what this community got from those new users is mostly plagiarism or AI-generated text which is not welcome.
Yes, that's very true, most of the new members haven't brought any good information to this forum other than those AI generated content and plagiarized content, but some of those new members have been doing very well on this forum and they have ranked to Sr rank within few months.
That's true, having a karma requirement will somehow solve the issue but we should expect the upcoming problems such as abuse in karma, and so on.
Yes, karma requirements will most probably solve the issues that we may face with those new users but it's also true that karma could be abused in a bad way. But, as far as I remember, only those members can send karma who are Sr+ in rank, and that somehow reduces the manipulation to some good extent.
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If you compare Karma with Points, I consider Karma to be most valuable. The more karma a user has, the more valuable and quality content they share. Because any member can earn points by writing content or even by generating spam. But if someone wants to earn karma, they have to write quality content. I know there are other ways like reporting posts that are spam, AI-generated or plagiarism can also earn Karma. But, still, I think karma is better than the points. In the future, campaign managers may require you to have karma to be eligible to join a campaign. It should gives you a hint about how valuable the karma is.
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Points and karma are separate topics and are discussed in this forum. Your account points and activity are increasing every time you post. When your activity increases then your account rank also increases. On the other hand, you will not get any benefits with this point but the admin can bring any update in the future if he wants. However there is a lot of analysis on karma so i will put it quite simply. If the quality of your posts is good then you will get + positive karma and this karma is considered your good skill. On the other hand - your bad deeds are reported by negative karma. When you break the forum rules or post scam, and unnecessary low quality posts then you will get - karma.
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I don't think you need to choose one of them since both are different in purpose and both are important. Karma does matter on ranks, popularity and posts quality. While points are the one you earn from making posts, karma, also reports deduction if admin given some penalty to an account. So yeah, both are different with its own purpose.
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Both Karma and points are unique in their own ways. Points are important for forum growth as they contribute to every step in ones new rank attainment. The more you are active by making posts, the more activity you get the more your point increases and based on one of the threads I have read here in the past, that the points are converted into the forum token or one can use it to redeem their penalties here. While Karma is just a good will or a way of encouraging a poster for their good works done on this platform. It could be anything of any kind that is of importance or beneficial to individuals on this platform. However, if one does something not inline with the platforms objective, they are meted with negative karma which is a minus to the already given karma they have.
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What we must keep in mind is that we will *always earn points when we open a thread or write a post. But we will earn Karma only when other users believe that we are doing useful things for the forum, such as helping other users or writing quality things. That being said, I think the difference between the importance of Karma and points is obvious, Karma is harder to get than the points automatically awarded by the forum. Anyway, getting Karma is not difficult either, we just need a little dedication.
* Not all boards count posts or award points. But there are very few boards that don't do it.
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That being said, I think the difference between the importance of Karma and points is obvious, Karma is harder to get than the points automatically awarded by the forum. Anyway, getting Karma is not difficult either, we just need a little dedication.
i would even say that most people just focus on karma because i certainly do when i check a person’s credibility i usually just look at the karma although there are many badges to help us check what kind of a member a user is here in the forum but i just look at the karma first and foremost
* Not all boards count posts or award points. But there are very few boards that don't do it.
lol this must be said because there is a user that just posted about why their posts are not being counted well this is the answer! quality over quantity is always my mindset but if you could provide both then why not right?
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Points and karma are separate topics and are discussed in this forum. Your account points and activity are increasing every time you post. When your activity increases then your account rank also increases. On the other hand, you will not get any benefits with this point but the admin can bring any update in the future if he wants. However there is a lot of analysis on karma so i will put it quite simply. If the quality of your posts is good then you will get + positive karma and this karma is considered your good skill. On the other hand - your bad deeds are reported by negative karma. When you break the forum rules or post scam, and unnecessary low quality posts then you will get - karma.
Well said, and to add to this, there are other penalties for bad deeds like a plagiarism strike on your profile so people can easily identify you for your crimes. Negative karma can be cancelled out when you contribute positively and receive a positive karma but these strikes cannot be undone unless you make an appeal and if the admins approve your appeal then maybe the strike can be removed.
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lol this must be said because there is a user that just posted about why their posts are not being counted well this is the answer! quality over quantity is always my mindset but if you could provide both then why not right?
What you say, quantity and quality, would be ideal, but it cannot always be like that. We don't always have the time we want to dedicate to the forum. That is why it is preferable, at least personally, to write things that can help or contribute something instead of filling the forum with meaningless things. It's a personal decision, but the forum rules always have something to say about it ;)
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Points and karma are separate topics and are discussed in this forum. Your account points and activity are increasing every time you post. When your activity increases then your account rank also increases. On the other hand, you will not get any benefits with this point but the admin can bring any update in the future if he wants. However there is a lot of analysis on karma so i will put it quite simply. If the quality of your posts is good then you will get + positive karma and this karma is considered your good skill. On the other hand - your bad deeds are reported by negative karma. When you break the forum rules or post scam, and unnecessary low quality posts then you will get - karma.
Well said, and to add to this, there are other penalties for bad deeds like a plagiarism strike on your profile so people can easily identify you for your crimes. Negative karma can be cancelled out when you contribute positively and receive a positive karma but these strikes cannot be undone unless you make an appeal and if the admins approve your appeal then maybe the strike can be removed.
Of course this is the best chance that you can remove your negative karma by positive karma. We've seen a few stories of Karma abuse so there needs to be an option to see the identity of the Karma provider. I have already analyzed the types and analysis of karma so we must always be awake. If we post as per forum rules then we will definitely get positive karma. Since Karma considers the good and bad of our account, we must always post well to earn it.
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What you say, quantity and quality, would be ideal, but it cannot always be like that. We don't always have the time we want to dedicate to the forum. That is why it is preferable, at least personally, to write things that can help or contribute something instead of filling the forum with meaningless things. It's a personal decision, but the forum rules always have something to say about it ;)
From my observations so far on the forum, points add up as you post automatically and as a result of that I believe anyone can earn points on the forum both a quality poster and a spammer or low quality poster too. However Karma on the other hand is usually rewarded to post that are organic or rather, post with nice quality.
I've come across a couple of user profiles here on the forum that have negative Karmas on their profile which is obviously because they either attempted to scam people in one way or the other or they actually are spamming the forum with generic low quality posts. Nevertheless these user still have points on their profile though not much. Both points and karma are important however Karma is a reward for quality posts and points are rewards for posting irrespective of quality.
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Points and karma are separate topics and are discussed in this forum. Your account points and activity are increasing every time you post. When your activity increases then your account rank also increases. On the other hand, you will not get any benefits with this point but the admin can bring any update in the future if he wants. However there is a lot of analysis on karma so i will put it quite simply. If the quality of your posts is good then you will get + positive karma and this karma is considered your good skill. On the other hand - your bad deeds are reported by negative karma. When you break the forum rules or post scam, and unnecessary low quality posts then you will get - karma.
Well said, and to add to this, there are other penalties for bad deeds like a plagiarism strike on your profile so people can easily identify you for your crimes. Negative karma can be cancelled out when you contribute positively and receive a positive karma but these strikes cannot be undone unless you make an appeal and if the admins approve your appeal then maybe the strike can be removed.
Your are correct here because those strikes could give a caution and precautionary measures warning to anyone who wants to deal with such account holder to be very careful about their engagements. At least there are other strikes such as the cheating, scam, and an account holder being under watch for some certain reasons due to their behavior on the platform. When anyone sees these strikes on the account profile, they would be careful so they do not have any issues with accounts of such nature here. Like you have said, it is only and appeal to the admin that could be able to save such account if being looked into.
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Its more better that we have the both, karma is very important in showing how active and knowledgeable we are in our contributions, when we make use of the karma, it helps us to also identify with those that have been contributing well on the forum, the karma are of two types, the positive and negative karma, while points are something that the future may give opportunity with as we are earning and accumulating them now.
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Its more better that we have the both, karma is very important in showing how active and knowledgeable we are in our contributions, when we make use of the karma, it helps us to also identify with those that have been contributing well on the forum, the karma are of two types, the positive and negative karma, while points are something that the future may give opportunity with as we are earning and accumulating them now.
Yes, karma and points are quite important here... the greater the amount of both, the better... however, until now I have not been able to maximize the function of points... while the function of karma itself is to present the quality of someone's posts and in some cases, karma is often considered by campaign managers to accept new users... the biggest possibility is that applicants with high karma always get priority to be accepted...
Because this karma cannot be obtained easily, and the challenge is that we have to make quality posts and contribute greatly to the forum, then in my personal opinion, karma is more important than points. However, it all depends on our goals in the forum.
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Its more better that we have the both, karma is very important in showing how active and knowledgeable we are in our contributions, when we make use of the karma, it helps us to also identify with those that have been contributing well on the forum, the karma are of two types, the positive and negative karma, while points are something that the future may give opportunity with as we are earning and accumulating them now.
Both of them are very important indeed as you’ve said. The good thing about them is that both has their way of adding to your stay in this forum. While one serves as a point for the forum to appreciate your contribution to it, the other serves as a means of rating by forum members on your posts to the forum. While the forum points gives you credit for posting here, the users now further proves to the forum whether your posts are being worthy to the forum or not. The only negative notion that can assume from karma is the misuse of it, either positively by liking someone naturally and not giving positive karma to the person because of their posts and negatively given the person karma because you dislike them, maybe due to your personal views on each other.
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The only negative notion that can assume from karma is the misuse of it, either positively by liking someone naturally and not giving positive karma to the person because of their posts and negatively given the person karma because you dislike them, maybe due to your personal views on each other.
Personal opinions are simply that, personal opinions, and should be respected no matter how different they may be. Negative Karma should not be used for that. Negative Karma should be used for bad behavior, bad words, disrespect towards other users or for giving false information. There are stricter measures for scammers who try to deceive users.
If we didn't have different opinions we would have nothing to talk about in the forum, since we would always agree.
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Hi I'm new to the forum
I was wondering is karma more important than point or the other way round
Points are not as important as karma, you only receive points for participating in this forum, You can earn points even if your contributions are not valuable, you can be plagiarizing, spamming, or be a low-quality poster and earn points, but that is not possible in karma, which is why it is difficult to get. karma demonstrates how well you are contributing to the forum. If I read a post from a person with a lower rank, I immediately look at their karma because it defines their character. When you reach the level of applying for signatures and campaigns, and you have zero or negative karma, no campaign manager will accept you because from your karma it shows you can't provide them the best that they want.
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Hi I'm new to the forum
I was wondering is karma more important than point or the other way round
From my point of view: Karma is more important than Points, so let's focus on Karma.
Points only help you get AltcoinsTalks forum ALTT tokens. ALTT tokens can be traded on Pancake Swap or burned for some special purposes. You can read more information about Points in The Guide to get your tokens (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=9231.0).
I believe that ALTT cannot make you rich in this market, it is considered a small reward to give you more motivation to learn and be active on the forum 💪
Karma is one of the necessary requirements to Rank up. With a high enough rank, you can participate in signature campaigns on the forum to receive very attractive rewards. You can refer to LIVE bounty campaigns on AltcoinsTalks forum (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=180177).
So try to create posts with good quality to get more Karma, instead of creating long posts to get more Points ^^
I was thinking the more posts made is the tendency of being ranked up though karma is an additional advantage. I guess some users are of higher rank having more points but lesser karma, some even possessing negative karma.
If karma is one of the backbone determinant of ranking up then how about those having negative karma and are already high ranked?
I only see both the karma and points as a proof of being active in the forum... But quality posts are good cause they may give you karma and also gives you points.
Cause every post, I guess gives you points.
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As of time of the Op post of the thread. Point was the most important thing to acquire but now karma is also important but point is still important because it is use to rank you up. But you have to know that campaign managers though not all value karma.
As some have commented above. Point is giving to you by the forum system while karma is giving to you from users in the forum who see your posts interesting.
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As of time of the Op post of the thread. Point was the most important thing to acquire but now karma is also important but point is still important because it is use to rank you up. But you have to know that campaign managers though not all value karma.
As some have commented above. Point is giving to you by the forum system while karma is giving to you from users in the forum who see your posts interesting.
Although not all bounty managers value users' Karma in the same way, I think it is something that will change sooner or later. After all, managers want the best users for campaigns, and the users with the best reputation are the ones with the most Karma, so it is a link that always exists although it is not always taken into account. It's all a matter of points of view, but on this topic everything points to the same path and to users with more Karma.
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As a committed member of this forum, we needed both to succeed and rank up, when we are having karma, it will show on how effective we are and also consistent in making our post on the forum, not doing this alone, but a quality contents and delivery we make which others sees and appreciates, we also need the points to keep counting the more we are posting and ranking up from one stage to another.
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Both karma and points are crucial to forum members, as they play significant roles in encouraging participation and motivation. By providing positive reinforcement, both karma and points motivate members to engage actively and contribute meaningfully to the forum.
For me, karma takes precedence over points. I prioritize karma over points, Earning +karma from high-ranking members for a well-crafted, meaningful post is particularly fulfilling. Who doesn't love recognition for a job well done?
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Both karma and points are crucial to forum members, as they play significant roles in encouraging participation and motivation. By providing positive reinforcement, both karma and points motivate members to engage actively and contribute meaningfully to the forum.
For me, karma takes precedence over points. I prioritize karma over points, Earning +karma from high-ranking members for a well-crafted, meaningful post is particularly fulfilling. Who doesn't love recognition for a job well done?
Both karma and points have crucial important for all altcoinstalk forum user, having many points give benefit for us reach higher level account and other side with many karma points seems how good reputation of our post account history.
For me both karma and points separated each other because both of them take important part four altcoinstalk forum user,
if have many karma but lack points automatically have lower rank or account, but when having many points and get many karma points will make perfect as altcoinstalk user.
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Points
This is the reward from the forum as a user and a contributor to the growth and development of the community. The points are being converted to the forum tokens.
Karma
Karma is giving by the forum users just like you and I. This is given by your positive reactions and help rendered to the fellow users of the forum who needs help or are pleased with your post.
A +karma is given if a user is pleased by your help/response to a question or a -karma if he/she is displeased or found you spamming in the forum.
Though, both are necessary in the forum for ranking up and positive impact to the growth of the Altcoinstalk community. Karma has more pulling weight to points, as it will give more edge as a quality poster within the community, which can help you in easily being accepted to participate in campaigns.
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Once you're a committed member of this forum, you don't have to worry on the two, because they will keep coming the more you make some quality post and still remains active on the forum posting, one thing that we must know concerning karma does not end at posting alone, but we need to make a quality one, the more we keep making a quality and interesting threads and reply on threads, our account get noticed and members begin to send positive karma as our activities and points increases as well.
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Potentially in the future karma will have more value than points, based on this proposal or a variation being implemented (see comments):
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=326311.0
At present, karma now no benefit directly within the forum, but otherwise will probably help you in being accepted for bounty campaigns.
The fact you can withdrew points to tokens that have monetary value, probably means karma is relatively worthless still in most ways.
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Potentially in the future karma will have more value than points, based on this proposal or a variation being implemented (see comments):
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=326311.0
At present, karma now no benefit directly within the forum, but otherwise will probably help you in being accepted for bounty campaigns.
The fact you can withdrew points to tokens that have monetary value, probably means karma is relatively worthless still in most ways.
Do you mean points can be withdraw to tokens, wow this will be really interesting but I haven’t really come across any threads about this but seems I haven’t done much research I guess. Seems points really have much value than karma, karma will only improve your chances of success in participating in campaigns and will give you more respect among members in the forum and show how much impacts you have put in to the community.
If really one can withdraw points to token then this will be much more beneficial and interesting. But I guess there will be minimum of points to be withdraw and maximum or can any users withdraw any amount of points they have?
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If we want to get serious with the forum, then we may not have to look on the direction of how we can easily get the forum karma and points, instead, we are expected to take our minds off them and focus on what we can deliver, the more we are contributing on something tangible and impressive, the more the two on their own way continue to increases, because we are going to be accumulating one while the other we are earning it as we make quality post.
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Do you mean points can be withdraw to tokens, wow this will be really interesting but I haven’t really come across any threads about this but seems I haven’t done much research I guess. Seems points really have much value than karma, karma will only improve your chances of success in participating in campaigns and will give you more respect among members in the forum and show how much impacts you have put in to the community.
If really one can withdraw points to token then this will be much more beneficial and interesting. But I guess there will be minimum of points to be withdraw and maximum or can any users withdraw any amount of points they have?
Yes, the points you get for posting can be redeemed for forum tokens, although the admin hasn't made any distributions for some time. Anyway, I still think that the most important thing is to participate in the forum, the points, Karma, tokens and everything else will come when the time is right.
More information: The Guide to get your tokens (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=9231.0).
Note that although the admin wrote that thread in 2018, the last update is from January of this year.
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Do you mean points can be withdraw to tokens, wow this will be really interesting but I haven’t really come across any threads about this but seems I haven’t done much research I guess. Seems points really have much value than karma, karma will only improve your chances of success in participating in campaigns and will give you more respect among members in the forum and show how much impacts you have put in to the community.
If really one can withdraw points to token then this will be much more beneficial and interesting. But I guess there will be minimum of points to be withdraw and maximum or can any users withdraw any amount of points they have?
Yes, the points you get for posting can be redeemed for forum tokens, although the admin hasn't made any distributions for some time. Anyway, I still think that the most important thing is to participate in the forum, the points, Karma, tokens and everything else will come when the time is right.
More information: The Guide to get your tokens (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=9231.0).
Note that although the admin wrote that thread in 2018, the last update is from January of this year.
I really came across a thread about withdrawal of point to altcoin, this is really interesting and I see a lot of forum users have been withdrawing their points both low ranks members and senior ranks members. But i notice that there is a minimum of withdrawal point which I think is 10000points so I see many users will be able to withdraw both junior ranks members. But the last update from the thread is August 2024 so I don’t thinks the withdrawal is going on I notice it on pause I will love to try and withdraw my points but I will like to use BSC not ETH chain cause of a lot gas fees. @admin we will really be appreciated if you will love to talk more about this withdrawal of token is it still ongoing I will love to take part in that activity. But after withdrawal will your points go back to 1 and start again what if I don’t get want to withdraw all my points can I ?
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But after withdrawal will your points go back to 1 and start again what if I don’t get want to withdraw all my points can I ?
Correct, when you withdraw your points for forum tokens the counter returns to 0. I don't know if it is possible to withdraw only a certain amount of points, the truth is that I have never changed mine, so I don't know if the administrator would give that option to the users, but anyone can ask that question in the corresponding thread.
In the latest token distributions only BSC was used precisely because of the high Ethereum fees.
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Correct, when you withdraw your points for forum tokens the counter returns to 0. I don't know if it is possible to withdraw only a certain amount of points, the truth is that I have never changed mine, so I don't know if the administrator would give that option to the users, but anyone can ask that question in the corresponding thread.
In the latest token distributions only BSC was used precisely because of the high Ethereum fees.
After points withdrawal have possibility reduce account level or not? I don't think good ideas for withdrawing points behind current price of ALT coins not too expensive and better become holder by not withdrawing altcoinstalk points.
Looks not interested yet with our account reach higher rank but have small points after withdrawing all, but its depend each user want to get interested account by having many points or not.
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After points withdrawal have possibility reduce account level or not? I don't think good ideas for withdrawing points behind current price of ALT coins not too expensive and better become holder by not withdrawing altcoinstalk points.
Looks not interested yet with our account reach higher rank but have small points after withdrawing all, but its depend each user want to get interested account by having many points or not.
No. Withdrawing the user's points does not mean that the account ranking will decrease in any way (think that if that were the case no user would change their points), the rank is maintained after withdrawing the points as is logical.
It is each user who must make the decision that best suits them. Personally I have never changed my points, but I have a good bag of tokens.
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Welcome to the forum! Typically, karma represents your reputation or the quality of your contributions within the community, while points are more about activity, like posting or receiving upvotes. While both are important, karma tends to reflect the respect you've earned through helpful or meaningful contributions, whereas points are more about engagement. It’s a good idea to focus on providing valuable content and participating actively, and the karma will follow!
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Welcome to the forum! Typically, karma represents your reputation or the quality of your contributions within the community, while points are more about activity, like posting or receiving upvotes. While both are important, karma tends to reflect the respect you've earned through helpful or meaningful contributions, whereas points are more about engagement. It’s a good idea to focus on providing valuable content and participating actively, and the karma will follow!
wow you just recently open your account and you have know much about the forum hmm.
Your account was created just 10 days ago and you have learn so much about the forum and perhaps your time spent on the forum is just 10minutes so you can’t tell me is the 10min you use to learn a lot about the forum the time is very little to have learnt something huge like this. I’m not really sure but I thinks there is something fishy about your account cause you have much experience and knowledge than normal newbie who just spent 10min on the forum, but with time we will fish out the fishy stuff about this account.
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wow you just recently open your account and you have know much about the forum hmm.
Your account was created just 10 days ago and you have learn so much about the forum and perhaps your time spent on the forum is just 10minutes so you can’t tell me is the 10min you use to learn a lot about the forum the time is very little to have learnt something huge like this. I’m not really sure but I thinks there is something fishy about your account cause you have much experience and knowledge than normal newbie who just spent 10min on the forum, but with time we will fish out the fishy stuff about this account.
Thing is, we don't know if the user has spent 10 hours on the forum or 10 minutes. They could have spent a considerable time learning about the forum prior to signing up, and chose to sign up because of what they learnt, so I don't find this comment particularly helpful. As a reminder we want to be a friendly forum to newbies who are here to engage with the community with constructive comments, not throw around accusations based on speculation, as this is not a friendly thing to do (unless there is evidence or strong basis for such an accusation, in which case it should be reported in the appropriate thread (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=97966.0)). If this new user is a multi-account it will be tagged as such, but we also don't need to be announcing this or even warning a newbie, as it serves no purpose or benefit.
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wow you just recently open your account and you have know much about the forum hmm.
Your account was created just 10 days ago and you have learn so much about the forum and perhaps your time spent on the forum is just 10minutes so you can’t tell me is the 10min you use to learn a lot about the forum the time is very little to have learnt something huge like this. I’m not really sure but I thinks there is something fishy about your account cause you have much experience and knowledge than normal newbie who just spent 10min on the forum, but with time we will fish out the fishy stuff about this account.
Thing is, we don't know if the user has spent 10 hours on the forum or 10 minutes. They could have spent a considerable time learning about the forum prior to signing up, and chose to sign up because of what they learnt, so I don't find this comment particularly helpful. As a reminder we want to be a friendly forum to newbies who are here to engage with the community with constructive comments, not throw around accusations based on speculation, as this is not a friendly thing to do (unless there is evidence or strong basis for such an accusation, in which case it should be reported in the appropriate thread (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=97966.0)). If this new user is a multi-account it will be tagged as such, but we also don't need to be announcing this or even warning a newbie, as it serves no purpose or benefit.
ok I understand I was being hash and tough I’m sorry about that. And I I’m sincerely sorry that non of this will ever happen anymore I won’t try to accuse any users without a strong and honest evidence. But I was so worried and very surprised about his fast response and knowledgeable responses to the questions as a newbie that why I responded to him that way. I have seen my mistakes and I’m sincerely sorry once more @Acornweise
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Thing is, we don't know if the user has spent 10 hours on the forum or 10 minutes. They could have spent a considerable time learning about the forum prior to signing up, and chose to sign up because of what they learnt, so I don't find this comment particularly helpful. As a reminder we want to be a friendly forum to newbies who are here to engage with the community with constructive comments, not throw around accusations based on speculation.
This is actually the kind of things higher members should be more conscious about the thing is no matter how weird some newbie questions may seem or point of view too , I actually don't fancy the idea of talking harshly or worse insulting them. The fact is everyone here was once a newbie and as a result if they all were picked on here ranking up would be far difficult.
Even as knowledgeable as different members may seem they are still under the learning process since no one knows it all. The difference most times is usually experience and access to more information and that is the reason why I always suggest that newbies try to practice a couple of things because it makes understanding it less stressful.
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Karma and points are so important to have in this platform, this is not because the people are making abuse of it, but because they are going to make it as part of the indication to how they are moving fast with progress in the forum, we may also need more of the points for now or later future when the time comes, as regarding karma, its not a prerequisite to ranking up, but we needed it to show how approved we are in making a quality post.
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I like Karma better, just because it's scarce. It takes a while to reach few hundred even for a decent poster while points being in thousand, makes it feel not worth it.