Between karma and points which one is better

[SamReomo]

This is an unexpected event for most of us that the mixer's campaign has brought here.

Yes, I highly agree with you, many members who are new on this forum try their best to rank up as soon as they possibly can by making so many posts on daily basis. I believe if the members who are making very good quality, helpful posts then there's nothing wrong even if they can rank in a few days to be eligible for the signature campaigns.

But if they create more posts which're more like spam posts then that's not a good thing and I believe in such case, it's far better have some karma requirement for ranking up. That way only those members who can earn some good amount of karma by creating helpful posts may get rank up, and such users would be helpful participants for signature campaigns if we see the positive side of the picture.

[Husna QA]

-snip- it's far better have some karma requirement for ranking up. That way only those members who can earn some good amount of karma by creating helpful posts may get rank up, -snip-

In the past (2018), Admin used karma as one of the conditions for reaching Sr. Member rank and above. Its function is similar to the merit system on Bitcointalk.

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We will adopt 2 strategies to increasing difficulties:

1- Post count: all ranks above Jnr member, will gradually increase the post requirement, this will never stop, but we will not apply huge post incrementation at a time. This will be continual, pushing the members to continuous contributions, adaptation and evolution. We call this The Red Queen effect.

2- Time & Karma requirements: time requirement will be introduced at one stage, it will limit the ranking up to 1-3 ranks per month.
Karma requirement will be applied only for Snr ranks and above /it is a merit system that would help the best members to reach the top positions.

However, if we refer to the new rank system: Everything You Need To Know About Forum Ranks.
It seems that the karma requirements for Snr rank and above are not clearly stated even though Admin said there:

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Other factors will also be required for ranks: Karma , activity, time ...

[DabsPoorVersion]

This is an unexpected event for most of us that the mixer's campaign has brought here.

Yes, I highly agree with you, many members who are new on this forum try their best to rank up as soon as they possibly can by making so many posts on daily basis. I believe if the members who are making very good quality, helpful posts then there's nothing wrong even if they can rank in a few days to be eligible for the signature campaigns.

But if they create more posts which're more like spam posts then that's not a good thing and I believe in such case, it's far better have some karma requirement for ranking up. That way only those members who can earn some good amount of karma by creating helpful posts may get rank up, and such users would be helpful participants for signature campaigns if we see the positive side of the picture.

But the thing is, what this community got from those new users is mostly plagiarism or AI-generated text which is not welcome. Instead of having a more user who can contribute to this forum, more work especially for moderators to take action regarding their violations.

That's true, having a karma requirement will somehow solve the issue but we should expect the upcoming problems such as abuse in karma, and so on. So, the admin and moderators might have more work (but for the better). I know they have countermeasures with these problems, but yeah, it's a load of work.

[SamReomo]

But the thing is, what this community got from those new users is mostly plagiarism or AI-generated text which is not welcome.

Yes, that's very true, most of the new members haven't brought any good information to this forum other than those AI generated content and plagiarized content, but some of those new members have been doing very well on this forum and they have ranked to Sr rank within few months.

That's true, having a karma requirement will somehow solve the issue but we should expect the upcoming problems such as abuse in karma, and so on.

Yes, karma requirements will most probably solve the issues that we may face with those new users but it's also true that karma could be abused in a bad way. But, as far as I remember, only those members can send karma who are Sr+ in rank, and that somehow reduces the manipulation to some good extent.

[God Of Thunder]

If you compare Karma with Points, I consider Karma to be most valuable. The more karma a user has, the more valuable and quality content they share. Because any member can earn points by writing content or even by generating spam. But if someone wants to earn karma, they have to write quality content. I know there are other ways like reporting posts that are spam, AI-generated or plagiarism can also earn Karma. But, still, I think karma is better than the points. In the future, campaign managers may require you to have karma to be eligible to join a campaign. It should gives you a hint about how valuable the karma is.

[albon]

Points and karma are separate topics and are discussed in this forum. Your account points and activity are increasing every time you post. When your activity increases then your account rank also increases. On the other hand, you will not get any benefits with this point but the admin can bring any update in the future if he wants. However there is a lot of analysis on karma so i will put it quite simply. If the quality of your posts is good then you will get + positive karma and this karma is considered your good skill. On the other hand - your bad deeds are reported by negative karma. When you break the forum rules or post scam, and unnecessary low quality posts then you will get - karma.

[PX-Z]

I don't think you need to choose one of them since both are different in purpose and both are important. Karma does matter on ranks, popularity and posts quality. While points are the one you earn from making posts, karma, also reports deduction if admin given some penalty to an account. So yeah, both are different with its own purpose.

[Cryptsafe]

Both Karma and points are unique in their own ways.  Points are important for forum growth as they contribute to every step in ones new rank attainment. The more you are active by making posts, the more activity you get the more your point increases and based on one of the threads I have read here in the past, that the points are converted into the forum token or one can use it to redeem their penalties here. While Karma is just a good will or a way of encouraging a poster for their good works done on this platform. It could be anything of any kind that is of importance or beneficial to individuals on this platform. However, if one does something not inline with the platforms objective, they are meted with negative karma which is a minus to the already given karma they have.

[Freemind]

What we must keep in mind is that we will *always earn points when we open a thread or write a post. But we will earn Karma only when other users believe that we are doing useful things for the forum, such as helping other users or writing quality things. That being said, I think the difference between the importance of Karma and points is obvious, Karma is harder to get than the points automatically awarded by the forum. Anyway, getting Karma is not difficult either, we just need a little dedication.

* Not all boards count posts or award points. But there are very few boards that don't do it.

[bitterguy28]

That being said, I think the difference between the importance of Karma and points is obvious, Karma is harder to get than the points automatically awarded by the forum. Anyway, getting Karma is not difficult either, we just need a little dedication.

i would even say that most people just focus on karma because i certainly do when i check a person’s credibility i usually just look at the karma although there are many badges to help us check what kind of a member a user is here in the forum but i just look at the karma first and foremost

* Not all boards count posts or award points. But there are very few boards that don't do it.

lol this must be said because there is a user that just posted about why their posts are not being counted well this is the answer! quality over quantity is always my mindset but if you could provide both then why not right?

[Nheer]

Points and karma are separate topics and are discussed in this forum. Your account points and activity are increasing every time you post. When your activity increases then your account rank also increases. On the other hand, you will not get any benefits with this point but the admin can bring any update in the future if he wants. However there is a lot of analysis on karma so i will put it quite simply. If the quality of your posts is good then you will get + positive karma and this karma is considered your good skill. On the other hand - your bad deeds are reported by negative karma. When you break the forum rules or post scam, and unnecessary low quality posts then you will get - karma.

Well said, and to add to this, there are other penalties for bad deeds like a plagiarism strike on your profile so people can easily identify you for your crimes. Negative karma can be cancelled out when you contribute positively and receive a positive karma but these strikes cannot be undone unless you make an appeal and if the admins approve your appeal then maybe the strike can be removed.

[Freemind]

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lol this must be said because there is a user that just posted about why their posts are not being counted well this is the answer! quality over quantity is always my mindset but if you could provide both then why not right?

What you say, quantity and quality, would be ideal, but it cannot always be like that. We don't always have the time we want to dedicate to the forum. That is why it is preferable, at least personally, to write things that can help or contribute something instead of filling the forum with meaningless things. It's a personal decision, but the forum rules always have something to say about it

[albon]

Points and karma are separate topics and are discussed in this forum. Your account points and activity are increasing every time you post. When your activity increases then your account rank also increases. On the other hand, you will not get any benefits with this point but the admin can bring any update in the future if he wants. However there is a lot of analysis on karma so i will put it quite simply. If the quality of your posts is good then you will get + positive karma and this karma is considered your good skill. On the other hand - your bad deeds are reported by negative karma. When you break the forum rules or post scam, and unnecessary low quality posts then you will get - karma.

Well said, and to add to this, there are other penalties for bad deeds like a plagiarism strike on your profile so people can easily identify you for your crimes. Negative karma can be cancelled out when you contribute positively and receive a positive karma but these strikes cannot be undone unless you make an appeal and if the admins approve your appeal then maybe the strike can be removed.

Of course this is the best chance that you can remove your negative karma by positive karma. We've seen a few stories of Karma abuse so there needs to be an option to see the identity of the Karma provider. I have already analyzed the types and analysis of karma so we must always be awake. If we post as per forum rules then we will definitely get positive karma. Since Karma considers the good and bad of our account, we must always post well to earn it.

[Mia Chloe]

What you say, quantity and quality, would be ideal, but it cannot always be like that. We don't always have the time we want to dedicate to the forum. That is why it is preferable, at least personally, to write things that can help or contribute something instead of filling the forum with meaningless things. It's a personal decision, but the forum rules always have something to say about it

From my observations so far on the forum, points add up as you post automatically and as a result of that I believe anyone can earn points on the forum both a quality poster and a spammer or low quality poster too. However Karma on the other hand is usually rewarded to post that are organic or rather, post with nice quality.

I've come across a couple of user profiles here on the forum that have negative Karmas on their profile which is obviously because they either attempted to scam people in one way or the other or they actually are spamming the forum with generic low quality posts. Nevertheless these user still have points on their profile though not much. Both points and karma are important however Karma is a reward for quality posts and points are rewards for posting irrespective of quality.

[Cryptsafe]

Points and karma are separate topics and are discussed in this forum. Your account points and activity are increasing every time you post. When your activity increases then your account rank also increases. On the other hand, you will not get any benefits with this point but the admin can bring any update in the future if he wants. However there is a lot of analysis on karma so i will put it quite simply. If the quality of your posts is good then you will get + positive karma and this karma is considered your good skill. On the other hand - your bad deeds are reported by negative karma. When you break the forum rules or post scam, and unnecessary low quality posts then you will get - karma.

Well said, and to add to this, there are other penalties for bad deeds like a plagiarism strike on your profile so people can easily identify you for your crimes. Negative karma can be cancelled out when you contribute positively and receive a positive karma but these strikes cannot be undone unless you make an appeal and if the admins approve your appeal then maybe the strike can be removed.

Your are correct here because those strikes could give a caution and precautionary measures warning to anyone who wants to deal with such account holder to be very careful  about their engagements. At least there are other strikes such as the cheating, scam, and an account holder being under watch for some certain reasons due to their behavior on the platform. When anyone sees these strikes on the account profile, they would be careful so they do not have any issues with accounts of such nature here. Like you have said, it is only and appeal to the admin that could be able to save such account if being looked into.