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Crypto Discussion Forum => Forum Court => Forum related => Bounty Cheaters & Duplicate Accounts Accusations => Topic started by: forum-patron on April 04, 2024, 02:54:26 AM
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I have a reference from this member https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=45867.msg1532442#msg1532442 , in case I find a duplicate account to make a post on this board.
I just found a strange and surprising POA, please check it for other members to check it because I feel like I found very a bit problem.
Show Post - Mon72 https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=77784
POA Hair Bounty Usogui Network with address Mon72 https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=206721.msg1154756#msg1154756
POA Mon72 Bounty NFTanks with Address hair https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=241542.msg1260439#msg1260439
Telegram : @A_Hair , @2_Hair
Email : [email protected]
Address : 0x6b5E8d0feE035F2465ee3963D5914ec4b0aaf7b1
Is this what is called Duplicate account?
In the POA, the bounty board section uses almost the same Telegram ID, almost the same email and the same wallet in 2 different accounts. Hair and Mon72, are these members breaking the forum rules?
The most surprising thing in this POA section https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=241542.msg1260439#msg1260439 for Mon72 pasted the forum username from https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=49623. This indication seems like the account owner forgot to copy the username link from the main account to the multi account.
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Is this what is called Duplicate account?
It can in theory be so, I prefer to listen to what hair himself will say about this case.
But thank you for your investigation. If you'll find more interesting cases, please share them with us. +karma
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@forum-patron When reporting things like this, always leave a quoted unedited post as proof. For example, even if this case is true, the exposed user can always edit his post and then it will be your word against his, which is not enough to take appropriate sanctions.
For example:
#PROOF OF REGISTRATION
Forum Username: Hair
Forum Profile Link: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=49623
Telegram Username: @A_Hair
Participated Campaigns: Twitter
Smart Chain Wallet Address: 0x6b5E8d0feE035F2465ee3963D5914ec4b0aaf7b1
#PROOF OF REGISTRATION
Forum username: Mon72
Forum profile link: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=49623
Campaign: Telegram Twitter
BSC Address: 0x6b5E8d0feE035F2465ee3963D5914ec4b0aaf7b1
Telegram : @2_Hair
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@forum-patron thank you for the research work you have done. Let's wait and see what @hair says on this matter.
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@examplens, I don't remember it well and that's why I'm not 100% sure, but I think the quoted text doesn't change even if a user edits the original text.
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@examplens, I don't remember it well and that's why I'm not 100% sure, but I think the quoted text doesn't change even if a user edits the original text.
Even if the user deletes his post, the quoted text remains as a reference.
In my previous post, only I and admin probably can change what is inside the quote.
But it's a good thing that info will be added automatically when the post was last edited. Which excludes the possibility of subsequent changes for the sake of manipulation.
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it was a cheater who impersonated me to make my account bad. It happened when I joined Bounty Detective. I don't know who it is. but it looks like haters.
if you want to check I'm a cheater or not
you can check my wallet transactions
https://bscscan.com/address/0x6b5E8d0feE035F2465ee3963D5914ec4b0aaf7b1
Admin also can check my IP. whether the account is connected to me or not?
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you can check this spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DpJfnnD01luHoHc7_23mtRsof14zftMrggFlUbo10VM/edit#gid=912417572
Spreadsheet no 56, 58, 62 (signature)
the cheater using my account 3 times for making my account bad
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Mon72 belongs to the famous account farm run by nostoman, which are mostly red point these days
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Is this what is called Duplicate account?
It can in theory be so, ~snip~
Really? that's just my guess because it's clearly written in the POA on the forum.
But thank you for your investigation. If you'll find more interesting cases, please share them with us. +karma
In addition, for sending coins between wallets can it also be said to be multiple accounts?
@forum-patron thank you for the research work you have done. Let's wait and see what @hair says on this matter.
+1
~snip~
hair has replied to this post https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=320086.msg1533872#msg1533872 , https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=320086.msg1533881#msg1533881
@forum-patron When reporting things like this, always leave a quoted unedited post as proof. For example, even if this case is true, the exposed user can always edit his post and then it will be your word against his, which is not enough to take appropriate sanctions.
~snip~
Thank you for your help, I will continue to remember the tricks you said.
it was a cheater who impersonated me to make my account bad. It happened when I joined Bounty Detective. I don't know who it is. but it looks like haters.
if you want to check I'm a cheater or not
you can check my wallet transactions
https://bscscan.com/address/0x6b5E8d0feE035F2465ee3963D5914ec4b0aaf7b1
~snip~
0x12AD7D13B6Dba90EbCeb01c9b0219884a016FEc6 ( Mon72 wallet ) Sent BNB coin 0.000172197099822637 to 0x6b5E8d0feE035F2465ee3963D5914ec4b0aaf7b1 ( hair wallet )
Transaction hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0xd74973f904b72d11bcf55c0e5a71a8d3735e14af020d0bdefd04a5b074b77ed0
POA Mon72 : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=230303.msg1260459#msg1260459 with wallet 0x12AD7D13B6Dba90EbCeb01c9b0219884a016FEc6 ( Mon72 wallet )
Show Post - Mon72 https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=77784
It's simple to check your wallet, just copy-paste it on the etherscan or bscscan website and I've just checked it, please check it by you.
Mon72 belongs to the famous account farm run by nostoman, which are mostly red point these days
Really? What do you mean by nostoman is this https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=243021.0? Nostoman is at number 1 with a series of multiple accounts up to 76 accounts.
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the public can see my wallet transaction https://bscscan.com/txs?a=0x6b5e8d0fee035f2465ee3963d5914ec4b0aaf7b1
https://bscscan.com/tx/0x12f37da9826eeae0c2d3c445964909d025216b4cfabc66fcad433d5eb4cceb02
this is also my wallet 0x01bcCeb40FA426739057F81D721DA2Be471e8006
POA : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=271610.msg1375906#msg1375906
I sent 0x01bcCeb40FA426739057F81D721DA2Be471e8006 to 0x6b5E8d0feE035F2465ee3963D5914ec4b0aaf7b1
https://bscscan.com/tx/0x12f37da9826eeae0c2d3c445964909d025216b4cfabc66fcad433d5eb4cceb02
both is my wallet
https://bscscan.com/tx/0xda36fcbbe626ea1f59060ab0637a4c01227acefc4a3fbc46fb97eea0423eea0d
0xeAcf93046d8B12595F1592dD24515901600Fc374 to 0x6b5E8d0feE035F2465ee3963D5914ec4b0aaf7b1 (my wallet)
I don't know who is 0xeAcf93046d8B12595F1592dD24515901600Fc374?
https://bscscan.com/tx/0xd74973f904b72d11bcf55c0e5a71a8d3735e14af020d0bdefd04a5b074b77ed0
0x12AD7D13B6Dba90EbCeb01c9b0219884a016FEc6 ( Mon72 wallet ) nostoman's account to 0x6b5E8d0feE035F2465ee3963D5914ec4b0aaf7b1 (my wallet)
https://bscscan.com/tx/0x9bc192ec16b8957098818750af8d0e52ce63f8eb8b10440224d95edda5af7bb5
0x4f41E3039B5327199Be2b8BC4F2dB81b47F579c9 to 0x6b5E8d0feE035F2465ee3963D5914ec4b0aaf7b1 (my wallet)
this account Believer (one of the multi account of nostoman)
POA : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=208008.msg1158981#msg1158981
my question is what the purpose of nostoman sent to me the gas to my wallet?
using 0x12AD7D13B6Dba90EbCeb01c9b0219884a016FEc6 ( Mon72 wallet ) and 0x4f41E3039B5327199Be2b8BC4F2dB81b47F579c9 (Believer)
he wants to make my account's reputation bad. by trapping me with gas fees.
I wouldn't have even noticed if it wasn't for your report @ forum-patron
btw I know who you are? you are abang jago right
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if I am cheater for what I voted alone? on senator board " do to allow any duplicate at all "
(https://i.imgur.com/7QyhHAw.png)
admin can check it who is the one voted the last options.
remember Allah always with me. Bismillah
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it was a cheater who impersonated me to make my account bad. It happened when I joined Bounty Detective. I don't know who it is. but it looks like haters.
That's how it seemed to me from the very beginning. Several proofs of registration with your data and nothing more, no real participation in any campaigns or anything else.
And the fact that Mon72 account belongs to Nostoman says a lot by itself.
In addition, for sending coins between wallets can it also be said to be multiple accounts?
It can be an evidence, thank you for your investigation. But in this case it is rather obvious that Mon72 wanted to impersonate hair and Mon72 used hair's data for that. So blockchain interconnections is what expected in this case.
@forum-patron When reporting things like this, always leave a quoted unedited post as proof. For example, even if this case is true, the exposed user can always edit his post and then it will be your word against his, which is not enough to take appropriate sanctions.
Better to use some Internet archive so the accused can't pretend that the message was modified. :)
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0x12AD7D13B6Dba90EbCeb01c9b0219884a016FEc6 ( Mon72 wallet ) Sent BNB coin 0.000172197099822637 to 0x6b5E8d0feE035F2465ee3963D5914ec4b0aaf7b1 ( hair wallet )
Transaction hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0xd74973f904b72d11bcf55c0e5a71a8d3735e14af020d0bdefd04a5b074b77ed0
This is a trivial transaction, I wouldn't be surprised if it was done only on purpose to compromise these addresses. This is still not enough evidence, certainly not against such a highly-ranked member who has been on the forum for 5 years.
Better to use some Internet archive so the accused can't pretend that the message was modified. :)
Webarchive is fine, but even this way is a perfectly good solution, plus it is more transparent and simpler if the opinion of a third, neutral party is expected.
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for me the situation is clear, at no time was hair associated with notoman, if he was i would have detected it already.
On the other hand Mon72 is
thus issue clear enough
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As I assumed it was all the work of some manipulator, and @hair has nothing to do with this whole matter, so his reputation remains intact. I have nothing more to say about this case.
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As I assumed it was all the work of some manipulator, and @hair has nothing to do with this whole matter, so his reputation remains intact. I have nothing more to say about this case.
From a different angle, if you look at the account @forum-patron and his post history, the user registered on April 1, he does pretty well on the forum, and also he found some strange evidence from 3 years ago. I am more suspicious of his sincerity and innocence here than of all that he accuses @hair.
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the public can see my wallet transaction https://bscscan.com/txs?a=0x6b5e8d0fee035f2465ee3963d5914ec4b0aaf7b1
https://bscscan.com/tx/0x12f37da9826eeae0c2d3c445964909d025216b4cfabc66fcad433d5eb4cceb02
this is also my wallet 0x01bcCeb40FA426739057F81D721DA2Be471e8006
POA : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=271610.msg1375906#msg1375906
I sent 0x01bcCeb40FA426739057F81D721DA2Be471e8006 to 0x6b5E8d0feE035F2465ee3963D5914ec4b0aaf7b1
https://bscscan.com/tx/0x12f37da9826eeae0c2d3c445964909d025216b4cfabc66fcad433d5eb4cceb02
both is my wallet
https://bscscan.com/tx/0xda36fcbbe626ea1f59060ab0637a4c01227acefc4a3fbc46fb97eea0423eea0d
0xeAcf93046d8B12595F1592dD24515901600Fc374 to 0x6b5E8d0feE035F2465ee3963D5914ec4b0aaf7b1 (my wallet)
I don't know who is 0xeAcf93046d8B12595F1592dD24515901600Fc374?
https://bscscan.com/tx/0xd74973f904b72d11bcf55c0e5a71a8d3735e14af020d0bdefd04a5b074b77ed0
0x12AD7D13B6Dba90EbCeb01c9b0219884a016FEc6 ( Mon72 wallet ) nostoman's account to 0x6b5E8d0feE035F2465ee3963D5914ec4b0aaf7b1 (my wallet)
https://bscscan.com/tx/0x9bc192ec16b8957098818750af8d0e52ce63f8eb8b10440224d95edda5af7bb5
0x4f41E3039B5327199Be2b8BC4F2dB81b47F579c9 to 0x6b5E8d0feE035F2465ee3963D5914ec4b0aaf7b1 (my wallet)
this account Believer (one of the multi account of nostoman)
POA : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=208008.msg1158981#msg1158981
my question is what the purpose of nostoman sent to me the gas to my wallet?
using 0x12AD7D13B6Dba90EbCeb01c9b0219884a016FEc6 ( Mon72 wallet ) and 0x4f41E3039B5327199Be2b8BC4F2dB81b47F579c9 (Believer)
he wants to make my account's reputation bad. by trapping me with gas fees.
I wouldn't have even noticed if it wasn't for your report @ forum-patron
btw I know who you are? you are abang jago right
https://bscscan.com/tx/0xd74973f904b72d11bcf55c0e5a71a8d3735e14af020d0bdefd04a5b074b77ed0
0x12AD7D13B6Dba90EbCeb01c9b0219884a016FEc6 ( Mon72 wallet ) nostoman's account to 0x6b5E8d0feE035F2465ee3963D5914ec4b0aaf7b1 (my wallet)
https://bscscan.com/tx/0x9bc192ec16b8957098818750af8d0e52ce63f8eb8b10440224d95edda5af7bb5
0x4f41E3039B5327199Be2b8BC4F2dB81b47F579c9 to 0x6b5E8d0feE035F2465ee3963D5914ec4b0aaf7b1 (my wallet)
this account Believer (one of the multi account of nostoman)
POA : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=208008.msg1158981#msg1158981
Other Multi Accounts and Wallet connected , number 4 from 9 multiaccount or more is Believer https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=243020.0
From the two transactions that I quoted, you got BNB coins from the Mon72 and Believer account wallets, you did not return the BNB coins in full to the giving wallet and instead you used the BNB to send to your other wallet and sent BSC tokens.
Quote time Received BNB from Mon72 and Believer accounts on 863 days ago (Nov-24-2021 03:05:11 PM +UTC) and 824 days ago (Jan-02-2022 02:36:48 AM +UTC)
But you use the BNB coins for your own interests in sending to other wallets and sending BSC tokens,
https://bscscan.com/address/0x6b5e8d0fee035f2465ee3963d5914ec4b0aaf7b1 check every time from 824 and 863 ago because there is no BNB return to the Mon72 or Believer wallet
https://bscscan.com/address/0x6b5e8d0fee035f2465ee3963d5914ec4b0aaf7b1#tokentxns check every time from 824 and 863 ago because you used BNB to claim and send BSC tokens
If it's a trap, can you send the BNB coins back in full to the destination wallet from the start (Mon72 and Believer)? But the reality is not at all.
And you actually use the BNB for personal interests to other wallets or sending BSC tokens to other wallets, in theory it's not a trap but you need BNB for personal interests.
0x12AD7D13B6Dba90EbCeb01c9b0219884a016FEc6 ( Mon72 wallet ) Sent BNB coin 0.000172197099822637 to 0x6b5E8d0feE035F2465ee3963D5914ec4b0aaf7b1 ( hair wallet )
Transaction hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0xd74973f904b72d11bcf55c0e5a71a8d3735e14af020d0bdefd04a5b074b77ed0
This is a trivial transaction, I wouldn't be surprised if it was done only on purpose to compromise these addresses. This is still not enough evidence, certainly not against such a highly-ranked member who has been on the forum for 5 years.
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I wrote evidence at the beginning in POA regarding the use of email, Telegram, wallets which are all the same and added to this with BSC coin transactions from Mon72 and Believer which were used personally by Hair to send BNB coins to another wallet and send BSC tokens.
If 863 days ago, according to Hair, it was a trap, why not send it back to the original wallet from the Mon72 and Believer accounts?
For example, if you find money in a bag on the street and you don't return the money to the police or the authorities but you take the money for personal use, is this an example of wrong behavior or not?
As I assumed it was all the work of some manipulator, and @hair has nothing to do with this whole matter, so his reputation remains intact. I have nothing more to say about this case.
I'm just asking all about the policies in this forum, and please read carefully my quote for hair and examplens.
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btw I know who you are? you are abang jago right
hello hair...
Don't tempt me to come back.
because I have retired here.
If you've problem with other , solve it with them who are your opponents, don't just make accusation that are beyond your abilities and accused me
in court it is a battle of evidence and legal facts from a case, not assumptions or accusing other people carelessly. Just face it with the legal facts and evidence you have.
and again I emphasize that I have retired from this forum, so there is no need to take my name with you.
let me enjoy my retirement...
forum- patron is not me and I don't care about your business...
So, be wise and mature in your actions.
Greetings to everyone.
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I wrote evidence at the beginning in POA regarding the use of email, Telegram, wallets which are all the same and added to this with BSC coin transactions from Mon72 and Believer which were used personally by Hair to send BNB coins to another wallet and send BSC tokens.
If 863 days ago, according to Hair, it was a trap, why not send it back to the original wallet from the Mon72 and Believer accounts?
For example, if you find money in a bag on the street and you don't return the money to the police or the authorities but you take the money for personal use, is this an example of wrong behavior or not?
Sending back 0.000172197099822637 BNB? Seriously?
At the time of the transaction, it was worth $0.06, when you see that much money on the street, you certainly won't even bend down, and you certainly won't ask the owner to give it back to him.
I have similar transactions in my various addresses and it never occurred to me to deal with them. You can research the term "Crypto Dusting Attack", so it will be clearer to you why you should not pay attention to such insignificant transactions.
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This happened because at that time I was a judge for a multi-account nostoman case. So there will be many ways for cheaters to trap me, for example when I join the bounty signature
You can clearly see in the screenshot that in 2020 an impersonator used my account 3 times. I requested to bounty detective to reject the impersonator
(https://i.ibb.co/Lvsh3yp/043959d4-80f2-4c8b-97b0-2c535ac7a297.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Lvsh3yp)
look at spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DpJfnnD01luHoHc7_23mtRsof14zftMrggFlUbo10VM/edit#gid=912417572
Admin has explained his statement clearly
Mon72 belongs to the famous account farm run by nostoman, which are mostly red point these days
for me the situation is clear, at no time was hair associated with notoman, if he was i would have detected it already.
On the other hand Mon72 is
thus issue clear enough
I put on my profile since that case (2020 ) "Beware of impersonator" I am Pencak Silat
because I know that there will be cheaters who impersonator me
(https://i.ibb.co/Wf57hBV/Be-Careful.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4ptCq41) (https://i.ibb.co/4ptCq41/Be-Careful.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4ptCq41)
this was my first case as judge https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=238265.60 (November 08, 2021)
#proof 1
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=238265.msg1242055#msg1242055
1. Nostoman
Profile Link : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=49842
2. Paglamon
Profile Link : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=46373
3. Dociko
Profile Link : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=74595
4. Tnoy30
Profile Link : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=52969
5. Tanimariya
Profile Link : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=52467
6. Galaxy
Profile Link : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=74552
7. Lenipiw
Profile Link : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=74365
8. MRM
Profile Link : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=74409
9. Riya143
Profile Link : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=52652
#proof 2
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=238265.msg1242405#msg1242405
1. ranaprime
Profile Link : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=47774
2. Asad72
Profile Link : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=80433
3. Logitech50
Profile Link : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=76418
4. Dark Knight
Profile Link : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=78475
5. C 98
Profile Link : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=79071
6. Bad leyar
Profile Link : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=77745
7. Fighter
Profile Link : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=79035
8. bmw1
Profile Link : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=77851
9. ExtraPoint
Profile Link : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=78930
After discussing with the judges and do investigation the account that has been mentioned has been proven to have committed fraud by participating in a bounty with multiple accounts. the evidence is clear and valid. All accounts that are connected to each other.
I suggest admin for them to get a big cheater label to make it easier for BM to know it
+ add to label duplicate and suggest MULTY Account or CHEATER badge ( BIG LABEL )
+ get negative karma. ( make -100 )
+ Remove their KYC.
+ We also consider that they can't allow use their signature (blocked their signature column)
and the cheaters using my data on November 15, 2021
Proof of authentication
- EP20 (BSC) address : 0x6b5E8d0feE035F2465ee3963D5914ec4b0aaf7b1
- Email : [email protected]
- Campaigns applied for : Twitter
#PROOF OF REGISTRATION
Forum username: Mon72
Forum profile link: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=49623
Campaign: Telegram Twitter
BSC Address: 0x6b5E8d0feE035F2465ee3963D5914ec4b0aaf7b1
Telegram : @2_Hair
Forum Username: Mon72
Forum Profile Link: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=77784
Telegram Username: @A_Hair
Participated Campaigns: Twitter
Smart Chain Wallet (BSC) Address: 0x12AD7D13B6Dba90EbCeb01c9b0219884a016FEc6
Admin, judge and Mr President, I think my evidence is very clear.
Thank You
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I wrote evidence at the beginning in POA regarding the use of email, Telegram, wallets which are all the same and added to this with BSC coin transactions from Mon72 and Believer which were used personally by Hair to send BNB coins to another wallet and send BSC tokens.
If 863 days ago, according to Hair, it was a trap, why not send it back to the original wallet from the Mon72 and Believer accounts?
Right, and we already found out that Mon72 is an impersonator (moreover, a part of a known huge farm of Nostoman) who maliciously wanted to cheat using hair's data. So your next assumptions look illogical. If there's no new data, I see nothing to research in this case. Both Mon72 and Believer accounts already have negative badges. We can probably add a cheater badge for Mon72 if other judges will agree, but I don't see much point in that, because this account has just 4 activities and a negative badge already. Hardly it will ever be used to grow up on the forum. ???
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Admin, judge and Mr President, I think my evidence is very clear.
I say again what I said yesterday (although I said I would not say more on this topic), I think it is sufficiently proven that all this was done by the nostoman group, to ruin @hair's reputation.
And I repeat for the last time that for my part @hair's reputation remains exactly the same.
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Hair might have a second or third account, i don't know for sure, many users have, but for sure Mon72 and Believer are not his.
This entire post to associate hair to Mon72 and Believer make no sense given that we know whom these 2 users belong to.
concerning transactions between accounts, it do happen that users receive tokens or crypto from others, but that by itself is not a proof of a connection.