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Title: What makes a country powerful.
Post by: Sim_card on April 12, 2024, 08:11:17 PM
I said let me bring this up here, as though it is a topic that has been discussed in the other forum, last year or two, because I was able to see it there.

We know that powerful countries are the ones that is ruling the world, as they are been feared by other countries based on how strong they are. This brings to question of... What do you think that makes a country powerful? Is it the country 's military or her economy or her currency.
Please let's discuss, and give me your reasons.
Title: Re: What makes a country powerful.
Post by: Emmanuel1 on April 12, 2024, 09:18:27 PM
"This brings to question of... What do you think that makes a country powerful?
What make a country powerful, is not just because of their population alone, there are other criterias that make a country powerful, they are: economy influence, military strength, political stability, leadership and territory.
The strength of any country lies on the criterias that are mention or listed. This is my opinion.
Title: Re: What makes a country powerful.
Post by: Stompix on April 12, 2024, 10:28:08 PM
What do you think that makes a country powerful? Is it the country 's military or her economy or her currency.

Neither!
Its people!
They are running the economy, serving in the army, and strengthening the currency!
Everything else is just a result of the population decision, you will not have a healthy economy with a lazy and corrupt population, you will not have a great army with a country of cowards and you for sure won't have a currency that is better than toilet paper with those either.
And before anyone says something about the ones ruling their country, they are too the reflection of what the population wants.

 
Title: Re: What makes a country powerful.
Post by: koang on April 13, 2024, 01:11:59 PM

We know that powerful countries are the ones that is ruling the world, as they are been feared by other countries based on how strong they are. This brings to question of... What do you think that makes a country powerful? Is it the country 's military or her economy or her currency.
Please let's discuss, and give me your reasons.

In the definition of power, a country is considered powerful if it has a strong economy, a large military, and a smart population.
However, the fundamental element that makes a country powerful is effective and institutionalized authority that can provide welfare for its people.
Civic competence (civic awareness based on an appreciation of the principle of tolerance) is the main factor that drives all of this.
Title: Re: What makes a country powerful.
Post by: DrBeer on April 13, 2024, 04:14:37 PM
It is necessary to determine what "format" of the country we are considering. If we take totalitarian and "medieval regimes" - then there all greatness is reduced to a huge, preferably poorly educated population, a huge army with almost unlimited human resources and aggressive policy, both in relation to its own population and neighboring countries.

If we talk about more civilized and developed countries, it is worth considering a set of indicators:
External:
Weight in world politics, economy, army, technology, ...
Internal:
Education, standard of living of the population, economic and universal freedoms, quality legislation, accessibility of education and medicine.
Title: Re: What makes a country powerful.
Post by: 0t3p0t on April 14, 2024, 11:56:54 AM
If a country is rich in natural resources or reserves, has strong economy, strong military to protect the country's interests and resources, highly developed with technologically advanced innovations I think we can say that a country is powerful enough in that aspect.
Title: Re: What makes a country powerful.
Post by: DrBeer on April 14, 2024, 01:32:39 PM
If a country is rich in natural resources or reserves, has strong economy, strong military to protect the country's interests and resources, highly developed with technologically advanced innovations I think we can say that a country is powerful enough in that aspect.

I would only add a little:
1. resources are not necessary, but desirable. We know a lot of examples when countries do not have significant resources, but have very efficient economies. As well as there are variants on the contrary - huge resources, but the economy is stuck in the 20th century....
2. the army is exactly powerful - in terms of high technology, and effective concepts. A larger (in terms of the number of people and equipment) but primitive army, built on the concept of warfare of the last century, is certainly a significant power, but... as the practice of recent years shows - not very effective in terms of achieving military goals.

...and add an efficient financial system !
Title: Re: What makes a country powerful.
Post by: Sim_card on April 14, 2024, 05:37:46 PM
What do you think that makes a country powerful? Is it the country 's military or her economy or her currency.

Neither!
Its people!
They are running the economy, serving in the army, and strengthening the currency!
Everything else is just a result of the population decision, you will not have a healthy economy with a lazy and corrupt population, you will not have a great army with a country of cowards and you for sure won't have a currency that is better than toilet paper with those either.
And before anyone says something about the ones ruling their country, they are too the reflection of what the population wants.
I agree with you. The people and their mindset is what will make a country powerful. Just like you said, they will be the ones in various places like the military and the other ministries that will build a strong economy and powerful government. Lazy and corrupt people will end up making a country very weak in all aspects.
Title: Re: What makes a country powerful.
Post by: 0t3p0t on April 19, 2024, 10:04:41 AM
What do you think that makes a country powerful? Is it the country 's military or her economy or her currency.

Neither!
Its people!
They are running the economy, serving in the army, and strengthening the currency!
Everything else is just a result of the population decision, you will not have a healthy economy with a lazy and corrupt population, you will not have a great army with a country of cowards and you for sure won't have a currency that is better than toilet paper with those either.
And before anyone says something about the ones ruling their country, they are too the reflection of what the population wants.
I agree with you. The people and their mindset is what will make a country powerful. Just like you said, they will be the ones in various places like the military and the other ministries that will build a strong economy and powerful government. Lazy and corrupt people will end up making a country very weak in all aspects.
Most of the time people and the government plays an important role in achieving  a greater economic growth but if we are talking about corruption things will be different as we can see it will always bring chaos to the economic stability.
Title: Re: What makes a country powerful.
Post by: emmybd on May 15, 2024, 05:50:26 AM
Powerful countries are those that have economic power and military power. All of them are also politically stable. Geography and population are also a factor. The example is China. A country with a decent size and population follows proper policies then with a span of 25-30 years time it can get up to the elite club of powerful countries. So political will and direction are very important.
Title: Re: What makes a country powerful.
Post by: joniboini on May 16, 2024, 10:00:26 PM
Lazy and corrupt people will end up making a country very weak in all aspects.
It is impossible to ensure that every government is clean, even the powerful ones. Who's to say everyone is corrupt and they just have a good habit of covering their tracks? People are definitely the center of all of this, but it assumes no other factors influence their decision or how they can make a country strong because they are diligent. I dunno, I feel like it simplifies a lot of things which makes us miss important factors like luck, geographical advantage, etc.
Title: Re: What makes a country powerful.
Post by: electronicash on May 16, 2024, 10:20:26 PM

i think its always parallel to the economy of a country and the military technology.  economic might includes energy source of their own that's why Russia is still a strong because of their gas and oil. the middle east countries could be strong actually, they just don't have the military might.

if one is lacking, they're going to have a problem especially if its economy is struggling. its been observed on empires when they fund a war while their people is hungry. Rome crumbles because of them funding several wars while they can't afford.

Lazy and corrupt people will end up making a country very weak in all aspects.
It is impossible to ensure that every government is clean, even the powerful ones. Who's to say everyone is corrupt and they just have a good habit of covering their tracks? People are definitely the center of all of this, but it assumes no other factors influence their decision or how they can make a country strong because they are diligent. I dunno, I feel like it simplifies a lot of things which makes us miss important factors like luck, geographical advantage, etc.

the geographical advantage are often negated by proxy war and propaganda. the media is always going to be useful in this case.
Title: Re: What makes a country powerful.
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on May 17, 2024, 04:23:02 PM
What do you think that makes a country powerful? Is it the country 's military or her economy or her currency.

There are many things in which we can consider as part of the requirements needed for a country to be considered a powerful one, i will bring in some list of them here.

1. The country economy plan and management
2. Population measure and budget
3. the country's GDP growth rate
4. Employment and unemployment rates
5. Poverty reduction level and good governance
6. International independencies on the economy
7. increased rate of productivities
8. Technological development
9. Military strength
10. Nuclear weapons

All these and many more are part of the constituent that makes a country become more powerful because they have less dependencies on others for thier sustainability.
Title: Re: What makes a country powerful.
Post by: 0t3p0t on May 17, 2024, 08:25:32 PM
"This brings to question of... What do you think that makes a country powerful?
What make a country powerful, is not just because of their population alone, there are other criterias that make a country powerful, they are: economy influence, military strength, political stability, leadership and territory.
The strength of any country lies on the criterias that are mention or listed. This is my opinion.
I agree and without those criterias might be so hard to achieve being the super power though there are some that has huge gold reserves and other minerals or fossil fuels but it helps determining how capable is a country will be. Some of us might only compare the firepower of militaries around the world but it might also be a part of this.
Title: Re: What makes a country powerful.
Post by: Rruchi man on May 17, 2024, 11:31:32 PM
What do you think that makes a country powerful? Is it the country 's military or her economy or her currency.
A powerful country is one that has a stable economy and a strong military as well. A powerful country is a country that can be self-sustaining; it is a country that does not depend on another country for many things; rather, Other countries depend on them for certain things. A country will not be powerful if its economy is stronger than its military or if its military is by far stronger than its economy, because a poor economy will find it difficult to support the military in a time of crisis.
Title: Re: What makes a country powerful.
Post by: philipma1957 on May 18, 2024, 01:53:57 AM
All countries are weak to say any have real power is an illusion at this moment in this.

We are on a world that when spilt up has:

 1/3 of 1 acre of fresh water per person.
 4 acres of land per person.
12 acres of ocean per person.

If any country had real power they could fix the issue above. I say all are weak and suffer delusions of grandeur while the world literally is fucking itself to death.
Title: Re: What makes a country powerful.
Post by: DrBeer on May 18, 2024, 09:14:36 AM
All countries are weak to say any have real power is an illusion at this moment in this.

We are on a world that when spilt up has:

 1/3 of 1 acre of fresh water per person.
 4 acres of land per person.
12 acres of ocean per person.

If any country had real power they could fix the issue above. I say all are weak and suffer delusions of grandeur while the world literally is fucking itself to death.


You cited indicators that say only one thing - mankind is breeding mindlessly, and mindlessly destroying nature and resources. At the same time, whether we like it or not, the biggest population growth comes from poor countries (or rather, the poor population of countries). I do not think that this problem should and can be solved by the countries of the developed world. Why not? Because I don't know from hearsay how the world's aid has been "used" to help poor countries for decades.
Instead of local people demanding to build them factories, they demand "just feed and house us, we don't want to work". When they are told they need health care, hygiene, and birth control, they scream "stay out of our lives, our traditions, and our faith".  At the same time, a huge number of "humanitarian organizations" and local authorities of countries "in need of help" are just corrupt feeding troughs for tens and hundreds of thousands of thieves of OUR money, which supposedly goes to "help poor countries"
Title: Re: What makes a country powerful.
Post by: bitterguy28 on June 10, 2024, 11:44:18 AM
I said let me bring this up here, as though it is a topic that has been discussed in the other forum, last year or two, because I was able to see it there.

We know that powerful countries are the ones that is ruling the world, as they are been feared by other countries based on how strong they are. This brings to question of... What do you think that makes a country powerful? Is it the country 's military or her economy or her currency.
Please let's discuss, and give me your reasons.
of course like US ,CHINA and RUSSIA they are showing their strength to prove they are strong and powerful but for me the real powerful country are the one that has a contented people , the living is simple but contented and this is why i for me its finland is the super country in the world as they are the safest and contented .
Title: Re: What makes a country powerful.
Post by: target on June 10, 2024, 01:27:04 PM
Whoever can topple US is the strongest powerful country. There are few wh challenges them already like China and Russia.

China and Russia might also fight each other after they fight together versus US. Seem logical because there usually is one leader only.
Title: Re: What makes a country powerful.
Post by: Stompix on June 10, 2024, 03:45:33 PM
of course like US ,CHINA and RUSSIA they are showing their strength to prove they are strong and powerful

How exactly is Russia showing its power?
By being bogged down for two years in a war with a country 1/4 its size, having its currency devalued against everything else, and having to prop the currency by interest rates 4 times those of the EU and US? If it's one country in the world that has lost its status as a superpower and become a joke that's Russia
Nobody expected them to be that much of a paper tiger!

You cited indicators that say only one thing - mankind is breeding mindlessly, and mindlessly destroying nature and resources.

No, we're not doing that anymore, right now everywhere except Africa there is a huge decline in the fertility rate, and even with them growing they still don't reach a level where they should be a problem from Phil's point of view, Africa still has a density 1/3 that of Asia.
Title: Re: What makes a country powerful.
Post by: Sim_card on June 10, 2024, 06:45:37 PM
of course like US ,CHINA and RUSSIA they are showing their strength to prove they are strong and powerful

How exactly is Russia showing its power?
By being bogged down for two years in a war with a country 1/4 its size, having its currency devalued against everything else, and having to prop the currency by interest rates 4 times those of the EU and US? If it's one country in the world that has lost its status as a superpower and become a joke that's Russia
Nobody expected them to be that much of a paper tiger!
Ukraine is not fighting Russia alone but with the help of a lot of countries and that is why Russia is finding it difficult to win the war. I will say that the powerful countries apart from China merged against Russia, who will be able to win such war and still survive her currency value and they cannot do business anymore with the international market due to ban. If it was a country that was not powerful, they would have been defeated long ago.
Title: Re: What makes a country powerful.
Post by: electronicash on June 10, 2024, 07:01:49 PM
of course like US ,CHINA and RUSSIA they are showing their strength to prove they are strong and powerful

How exactly is Russia showing its power?
By being bogged down for two years in a war with a country 1/4 its size, having its currency devalued against everything else, and having to prop the currency by interest rates 4 times those of the EU and US? If it's one country in the world that has lost its status as a superpower and become a joke that's Russia
Nobody expected them to be that much of a paper tiger!
Ukraine is not fighting Russia alone but with the help of a lot of countries and that is why Russia is finding it difficult to win the war. I will say that the powerful countries apart from China merged against Russia, who will be able to win such war and still survive her currency value and they cannot do business anymore with the international market due to ban. If it was a country that was not powerful, they would have been defeated long ago.

Russia is not also interested to conquer Ukraine. if Putin will just behave like Netanyahu Ukraine will all be ruins but instead he wants that country still exist after all Ukrainians are Russian speaking country.

Russia's economy also is way better than the countries affected by inflation today. They are not struggling with lots of homelessness as well and they still could sell their gas and oil.
Title: Re: What makes a country powerful.
Post by: Agbe on June 18, 2024, 06:44:27 PM
Smile nice question. There are a lot of things make a country very powerful but among all, it is only one thing make the country more powerful and I will give some instances. I have made comments on similar issue over there in the bitcoin forum. There are two things make of a Sovereign State and which are: Superstructure and Substructure. The Superstructure is the political setting of the country. That is comprises of all the institutions and offices both the government and private institutions of the country. Then the second one is the Substructure which the base and it is the Economy. Now economy control the other institutions of the state. Example. Nigeria was was the Giant of Africa because her economy was stronger than any other countries in the continent. But today it is no more because her economy is weak. America is the world power because USD is used in n the international market to exchange goods and services. And no any other currencies is used.

Military power in a country is determined by the economy power of the country. Because it is the economic resources that would be used to buy weapons for the military to become powerful and once a country military is powerful then other countries would be afraid to attack it. I have a lot to say but let me stop.
Title: Re: What makes a country powerful.
Post by: 0t3p0t on June 18, 2024, 07:46:55 PM
Whoever can topple US is the strongest powerful country. There are few wh challenges them already like China and Russia.

China and Russia might also fight each other after they fight together versus US. Seem logical because there usually is one leader only.
Well exactly yes it will happen as greed is what on every oligarchs head. Could be a survival to the fittest of some sort in the modern world as all of these oligarchs I think wanted to be the only ruler of this world that is why they are fighting for the throne. Since China is comitted and ambitious there is no doubt they are gonna fight each other in the future even if they are allied countries.
Title: Re: What makes a country powerful.
Post by: electronicash on June 18, 2024, 09:45:24 PM
Whoever can topple US is the strongest powerful country. There are few wh challenges them already like China and Russia.

China and Russia might also fight each other after they fight together versus US. Seem logical because there usually is one leader only.
Well exactly yes it will happen as greed is what on every oligarchs head. Could be a survival to the fittest of some sort in the modern world as all of these oligarchs I think wanted to be the only ruler of this world that is why they are fighting for the throne. Since China is comitted and ambitious there is no doubt they are gonna fight each other in the future even if they are allied countries.

this can easily happen since they both are going to be seeing threat to each other.  they will both compete who will have bigger resources and will try to dominate each other too in terms of military and economy. China will lose, they are just economic power but they also have a long range, isn't the hypersonic their tech?

they are too close geographically, both have nukes as well. but Russia has more afaik. if they are in war,  that part of the world will be a land grab for countries nearby. China is a very strategic with great access to the ocean, but the ones that might fight over that land will be Korea and Japan.
Title: Re: What makes a country powerful.
Post by: albon on June 21, 2024, 08:45:40 PM
A country's powerful place is not selected only in a single category. Many will think that serving in the army is acceptable as powerful. This is not enough for me because the more educated and technologically advanced the people of a country are, the more powerful the country is. In the current context of a country, the country is made developing with the rate of education and the use of advanced technology. Moreover the position of the rulers of the country should be good and corruption should be reduced so that the state of the country can be improved. To be powerful, you must have the best in terms of all structures.
Title: Re: What makes a country powerful.
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on June 22, 2024, 05:45:08 AM
What do you think that makes a country powerful? Is it the country 's military or her economy or her currency.
A powerful country is one that has a stable economy and a strong military as well. A powerful country is a country that can be self-sustaining; it is a country that does not depend on another country for many things; rather, Other countries depend on them for certain things. A country will not be powerful if its economy is stronger than its military or if its military is by far stronger than its economy, because a poor economy will find it difficult to support the military in a time of crisis.

Extremely good, all what you have is really good and important and that is what a country needs to have, which makes such country powerful. Any country that has all the above mentioned attributes, it makes the citizens to be reliable and confident to work more harder to support our leaders to fight against corruption and laziness. And also if our leaders adhere to our voices when we need their help, it also makes a country powerful.
Title: Re: What makes a country powerful.
Post by: robelneo on June 22, 2024, 06:16:05 PM
What do you think that makes a country powerful? Is it the country 's military or her economy or her currency.
Please let's discuss, and give me your reasons.

You cannot supply your military equipment and your logistics if you have a bad economy, The US China, and other European countries have a superpower status because they have a strong economy and they have a supply of military equipment and their personnel are well-trained.
The US derives part of its wealth from manufacturing war equipment so they are considered a military and economic power.
Title: Re: What makes a country powerful.
Post by: Stompix on June 22, 2024, 06:44:40 PM
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Ukraine is not fighting Russia alone but with the help of a lot of countries and that is why Russia is finding it difficult to win the war. I will say that the powerful countries apart from China merged against Russia, who will be able to win such war and still survive her currency value and they cannot do business anymore with the international market due to ban. If it was a country that was not powerful, they would have been defeated long ago.

What help? A few hundred tanks and IFVs and a bunch of ammunition?
You're talking about the wanna-be second global power that can't advance more than 1km a month in Ukraine with 1% of NATO weapons given as help! The US sailed half of the globe and trashed in one month what was considered at that time the 6th army in the world and Russia couldn't even project power 100km across their borders.

Russia is not also interested to conquer Ukraine.

500k dead soldiers and 7000 destroyed tanks while running your economy in war mode do tell a different scenario.
Russia can't conquer Ukraine and that's why they claim this, remember how they said it would be a 3-day operation?
Classic The Fox & the Grapes fable.
 
Title: Re: What makes a country powerful.
Post by: JoyMarsha on June 22, 2024, 09:51:04 PM
There are factors to look into, to regard a country to be powerful.
Those factors are the country's military capacity, economic strength, natural resources, technological advancement and human development.

A country that has such mentioned factors is to be regarded as a powerful country because they have everything to defend, protect, grow, expand, develop their country to always be a better one for its citizens
Title: Re: What makes a country powerful.
Post by: philipma1957 on June 22, 2024, 10:14:13 PM
All countries are weak to say any have real power is an illusion at this moment in this.

We are on a world that when spilt up has:

 1/3 of 1 acre of fresh water per person.
 4 acres of land per person.
12 acres of ocean per person.

If any country had real power they could fix the issue above. I say all are weak and suffer delusions of grandeur while the world literally is fucking itself to death.


You cited indicators that say only one thing - mankind is breeding mindlessly, and mindlessly destroying nature and resources. At the same time, whether we like it or not, the biggest population growth comes from poor countries (or rather, the poor population of countries). I do not think that this problem should and can be solved by the countries of the developed world. Why not? Because I don't know from hearsay how the world's aid has been "used" to help poor countries for decades.
Instead of local people demanding to build them factories, they demand "just feed and house us, we don't want to work". When they are told they need health care, hygiene, and birth control, they scream "stay out of our lives, our traditions, and our faith".  At the same time, a huge number of "humanitarian organizations" and local authorities of countries "in need of help" are just corrupt feeding troughs for tens and hundreds of thousands of thieves of OUR money, which supposedly goes to "help poor countries"

That so called aid simply fucks poor third world countries even more. As it is just enough to survive and breed more poor workers. I have been around since 1957. The world had enough people in 1967 about 2.7 billion was more than enough. Rather than make better use of resources the rich and powerful simply helped more poor people to be born. So they could rip them off and discard them when done.
Title: Re: What makes a country powerful.
Post by: bisdak40 on June 24, 2024, 02:37:35 PM
What do you think that makes a country powerful? Is it the country 's military or her economy or her currency.

Neither!
Its people!
They are running the economy, serving in the army, and strengthening the currency!
Everything else is just a result of the population decision, you will not have a healthy economy with a lazy and corrupt population, you will not have a great army with a country of cowards and you for sure won't have a currency that is better than toilet paper with those either.
And before anyone says something about the ones ruling their country, they are too the reflection of what the population wants.
I agree with you. The people and their mindset is what will make a country powerful. Just like you said, they will be the ones in various places like the military and the other ministries that will build a strong economy and powerful government. Lazy and corrupt people will end up making a country very weak in all aspects.
I agree that people make the country powerful and with a good leader who will lead the people they can improve the factors to be a great country like the economic strength, technology, military, and political influence, and without corruption and the people's help I can say that they will achieve to be a great country
Title: Re: What makes a country powerful.
Post by: Penlex_Writer on June 24, 2024, 05:42:34 PM
What do you think that makes a country powerful? Is it the country 's military or her economy or her currency.

Neither!
Its people!
They are running the economy, serving in the army, and strengthening the currency!
Everything else is just a result of the population decision, you will not have a healthy economy with a lazy and corrupt population, you will not have a great army with a country of cowards and you for sure won't have a currency that is better than toilet paper with those either.
And before anyone says something about the ones ruling their country, they are too the reflection of what the population wants.
I agree with you. The people and their mindset is what will make a country powerful. Just like you said, they will be the ones in various places like the military and the other ministries that will build a strong economy and powerful government. Lazy and corrupt people will end up making a country very weak in all aspects.
I agree that people make the country powerful and with a good leader who will lead the people they can improve the factors to be a great country like the economic strength, technology, military, and political influence, and without corruption and the people's help I can say that they will achieve to be a great country

Without a doubt, leadership is important in driving a country's development; however, at the global level, people consider population, technology, military might, economy, and currency as elements of power. A country might not have a good leadership but as long as these variables are visible such a country will be regarded as powerful because it will be dreadful to other countries.

Furthermore, countries that provide foreign aid to other countries are regarded as powerful because the countries that receive aid will remain indebted to them, which becomes a source of power.
Title: Re: What makes a country powerful.
Post by: bitterguy28 on June 28, 2024, 03:47:28 PM
I said let me bring this up here, as though it is a topic that has been discussed in the other forum, last year or two, because I
We know that powerful countries are the ones that is ruling the world, as they are been feared by other countries based on how strong they are. This brings to question of... What do you think that makes a country powerful? Is it the country 's military or her economy or her currency.
Please let's discuss, and give me your reasons.
Combining all of those will make the country most powerful but of course we knew that only few of countries has them all and also they cannot just stand on their own instead will be needing the help of other countries  like?

  - If the country is large then they also needs lots of supply that we are sure they cannot sustain completely .

  - if they have Big militarization then they need also tons of funds to support the guns and ammunition and also those war  equipments .

knowing all of those? then each country needs each others.