I was ready to put my money on Fury, but having some second thoughts after his rather poor performance against Ngannou.
I was ready to put my money on Fury, but having some second thoughts after his rather poor performance against Ngannou.
I find it hard to believe this is really happening. Yeah, Fury's performance against Ngannou is below his usual standard but I'm still putting my money on him. Tyson could win by volume and I might bet on a win by decision as well. Usyk is tough to knockout and probably has good conditioning.
This time it is different Fury knows what is at stake here, Fury did not train fully on the Ngannou fight and he takes him for granted, but this time around it is very different, Fury based on videos that are circulating is training hard for this match.
I was ready to put my money on Fury, but having some second thoughts after his rather poor performance against Ngannou.
Fury's last performance might be deceiving for us bettors but still i'll be backing for him due to his size advantage. Fury is very clever is using that advantage to wear out Oleksandr Usyk. That cut on the eyebrow might be a blessing in disguise for Team Fury as they have more time to prepare for this fight.
I think such an important, unification fight deserves its own topic.Yes, this is must watch fight and maybe one of the biggest boxing events in decades.
Yes, this is must watch fight and maybe one of the biggest boxing events in decades.
I never understood all boxing promotions with different belts, but I know this fight will decide who is the best heavyweight fighter in the world.
I think fight will not go to distance but Fury is better fighter in my opinion, but there are some holes in his fighting style that can be used by Usyk.
Yes, this is must watch fight and maybe one of the biggest boxing events in decades.It is a really big fight because the fight has been immortalized by the swiss luxury Jacob & co watch brand.
The reason why this fight is huge and has been immortalized is this is the first time after Lennox Lewis that we will have an undisputed and lineal heavyweight champion, which means all titles in all four organizations are on one person, he will also get the lineal and possibly the title the greatest heavyweight champion of this era.Yes, this is must watch fight and maybe one of the biggest boxing events in decades.It is a really big fight because the fight has been immortalized by the swiss luxury Jacob & co watch brand.
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I can't pick an option between those fighters, maybe before the day of the fight, I will know which of them will have my support.
Tyson's father, John Fury, lost it and attacked one of the Usyk's entourage.
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/boxing/john-fury-usyk-headbutt-video-b2544166.html
It was a cheap move by the old man, it didn't seem like there was any real provocation, other than Usyk's team chanting his name.
You'd expect a little bit more restraint and self-control from a man of his age, instead he acted as an overly emotional teenager. Sucker headbutting non-aggressive and much smaller guy won't bring him any glory, not to mention that he seemed to suffer more damage than the Ukrainian lad, who btw gave an interview later on and wasn't too bothered by the situation.
I don't think Saudis would take any action, given the guy who got headbutted is unlikely to report it.
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I think such an important, unification fight deserves its own topic.
The legendary fight for the Undisputed Heavyweight Champion is only a little over 2 weeks away. Both fighters are undefeated in their professional boxing careers and both put their belts on the line, which are as follows:
WBA (Super), WBC, IBF, WBO, IBO, The Ring
So far, Fury is a favourite but only a slight one with odds as follows:
Fury: x1,84
Draw: x16.0
Usyk: x2.00
Feel free to share your thoughts and predictions.
I was ready to put my money on Fury, but having some second thoughts after his rather poor performance against Ngannou.
Things like this usually happens in a big event, burst of emotion but like you said that he should be the one composed as he is the senior of the team. He should thank to the Ukrainian lad for not reporting this event as that might the reason of his deportation from Saudi.
The fight will be this weekend and no movement so far in the betting odds, Fury is still the slight favorite.
Though i have not bet yet but definitely i would go for the bigger guy, Tyson Fury.
Things like this usually happens in a big event, burst of emotion but like you said that he should be the one composed as he is the senior of the team. He should thank to the Ukrainian lad for not reporting this event as that might the reason of his deportation from Saudi.
The fight will be this weekend and no movement so far in the betting odds, Fury is still the slight favorite.
Though i have not bet yet but definitely i would go for the bigger guy, Tyson Fury.
The Furys tried to bully Usyk's team, as we all saw on the video; he was the first to instigate the attack, but Usyk's team did not retaliate. It is always like this: whenever the Fury has a huge fight, the Fury family is all over their opponent, and since this is a winner-take-all all match, John Fury wants
to impose their will on the other team.
John Fury doesn't have to do this. His son is already the favorite, so he should leave the fight between the two fighters and stop being a stage father like Bill Haney.
Things like this usually happens in a big event, burst of emotion but like you said that he should be the one composed as he is the senior of the team. He should thank to the Ukrainian lad for not reporting this event as that might the reason of his deportation from Saudi.
The fight will be this weekend and no movement so far in the betting odds, Fury is still the slight favorite.
Though i have not bet yet but definitely i would go for the bigger guy, Tyson Fury.
The Furys tried to bully Usyk's team, as we all saw on the video; he was the first to instigate the attack, but Usyk's team did not retaliate. It is always like this: whenever the Fury has a huge fight, the Fury family is all over their opponent, and since this is a winner-take-all all match, John Fury wants
to impose their will on the other team.
John Fury doesn't have to do this. His son is already the favorite, so he should leave the fight between the two fighters and stop being a stage father like Bill Haney.
his father do the marketing stuff for Tyson in his last iirc he also wants to be among the fight card with Mike Tyson. ;D
this is a supportive family. probably the most supportive family that they are going to put their father on the spot to fight the opponents team.
it could be because they want more PPV sale. and it must have worked since John have been doing this fighting attempt all the time. maybe its working that John didn't have to find another way to hype a fight.
it could be because they want more PPV sale. and it must have worked since John have been doing this fighting attempt all the time. maybe its working that John didn't have to find another way to hype a fight.
it could be because they want more PPV sale. and it must have worked since John have been doing this fighting attempt all the time. maybe its working that John didn't have to find another way to hype a fight.
Even without that bullying tactics, this fight will have massive PPV buys as this is for the unified heavyweight title and the boxing community is looking forward for this to happen a long time ago. John Fury just wants to have a role on this fight which is not needed anymore.
Things like this usually happens in a big event, burst of emotion but like you said that he should be the one composed as he is the senior of the team. He should thank to the Ukrainian lad for not reporting this event as that might the reason of his deportation from Saudi.
The fight will be this weekend and no movement so far in the betting odds, Fury is still the slight favorite.
Though i have not bet yet but definitely i would go for the bigger guy, Tyson Fury.
The Furys tried to bully Usyk's team, as we all saw on the video; he was the first to instigate the attack, but Usyk's team did not retaliate. It is always like this: whenever the Fury has a huge fight, the Fury family is all over their opponent, and since this is a winner-take-all all match, John Fury wants
to impose their will on the other team.
John Fury doesn't have to do this. His son is already the favorite, so he should leave the fight between the two fighters and stop being a stage father like Bill Haney.
I never understand logic of all that. We have two professional fighters who knows how to protect themselves. But they always walk and are crowded by team and bodyguards on press conference and weigh-ins. Lets suppose drawl starts. What next? Professional fighter gets injured. The fight goes canceled. Everyone looses money, everyone fails to earn, opponent misses chance to get one more victory in record or belt. What is the idea to start such a fight, if because of you, your team suffers?
I never understand logic of all that. We have two professional fighters who knows how to protect themselves. But they always walk and are crowded by team and bodyguards on press conference and weigh-ins. Lets suppose drawl starts. What next? Professional fighter gets injured. The fight goes canceled. Everyone looses money, everyone fails to earn, opponent misses chance to get one more victory in record or belt. What is the idea to start such a fight, if because of you, your team suffers?
That should not happen, especially in an epic fight like this. The promoters have spent a lot of money on preparation and promotion, and they might file a suit or case against the parties that started the brawl. Fighters should be protected at all costs. They know their obligation. They have bodyguards, and their bodyguards know what to do because they have instructions to protect their boxer at all costs.
I never understand logic of all that. We have two professional fighters who knows how to protect themselves. But they always walk and are crowded by team and bodyguards on press conference and weigh-ins. Lets suppose drawl starts. What next? Professional fighter gets injured. The fight goes canceled. Everyone looses money, everyone fails to earn, opponent misses chance to get one more victory in record or belt. What is the idea to start such a fight, if because of you, your team suffers?
That should not happen, especially in an epic fight like this. The promoters have spent a lot of money on preparation and promotion, and they might file a suit or case against the parties that started the brawl. Fighters should be protected at all costs. They know their obligation. They have bodyguards, and their bodyguards know what to do because they have instructions to protect their boxer at all costs.
that make sense. this is one of the biggest since we have not seen in decades such as unification fight in the HW division. they wouldn't want this cancelled anymore since they waited this long for this to happen. and to see this fight is to happen in a country that can give them millions, its gonna be a disaster if one is injured.
by bitbit97's description, it looks like there really is a kid's brawl. i wouldn't be surprised if there is another brawl after the fight.
Sort of to take revenge for what the Fury is doing and restore order in the HW division. There's no question that Fury is great, but with this kind of antics, many fans might be turning their backs on him.
~I don't know, but basing your winner on his last fight on a non-boxer fighter is kind of off at least for me.
I was ready to put my money on Fury, but having some second thoughts after his rather poor performance against Ngannou.
~I don't know, but basing your winner on his last fight on a non-boxer fighter is kind of off at least for me.
I was ready to put my money on Fury, but having some second thoughts after his rather poor performance against Ngannou.
He's against an MMA fighter at that time, and not a full-fledged boxer so he has a huge advantage over that one.
This time, he will be up against an undefeated boxer as well who is dominating on his division. TBH, I already put my bet on Fury on this one, and also put a bet on him winning by decision.
I never understand logic of all that. We have two professional fighters who knows how to protect themselves. But they always walk and are crowded by team and bodyguards on press conference and weigh-ins. Lets suppose drawl starts. What next? Professional fighter gets injured. The fight goes canceled. Everyone looses money, everyone fails to earn, opponent misses chance to get one more victory in record or belt. What is the idea to start such a fight, if because of you, your team suffers?
That should not happen, especially in an epic fight like this. The promoters have spent a lot of money on preparation and promotion, and they might file a suit or case against the parties that started the brawl. Fighters should be protected at all costs. They know their obligation. They have bodyguards, and their bodyguards know what to do because they have instructions to protect their boxer at all costs.
Tyson Fury refuses a stare-down with Usyk, is this a sign that he is not confident that he could beat Usyk. Just weird though because this is the first i saw this scenario where a fighter refuses or does not engage in a stare-down.
Tyson Fury refuses a stare-down with Usyk, is this a sign that he is not confident that he could beat Usyk. Just weird though because this is the first i saw this scenario where a fighter refuses or does not engage in a stare-down.
I agree, that looked very odd.
But was he really afraid of staring Usyk face-to-face? I don't think so, probably was just an idea that popped up in his mind at that moment. Or maybe he's just trying to get into Usyk's head by ignoring his presence etc, and make Oleksandr approach the fight too emotionally.
Tyson Fury refuses a stare-down with Usyk, is this a sign that he is not confident that he could beat Usyk. Just weird though because this is the first i saw this scenario where a fighter refuses or does not engage in a stare-down.
I agree, that looked very odd.
But was he really afraid of staring Usyk face-to-face? I don't think so, probably was just an idea that popped up in his mind at that moment. Or maybe he's just trying to get into Usyk's head by ignoring his presence etc, and make Oleksandr approach the fight too emotionally.
That was unusual for Fury. It was the first time I'd seen him like this in a face-off when interviewed and asked about it, he just said Usyk is one scary-looking dude, I don't know if it is a mind game or he is intimidated by Usyk, this is not the Fury we've seen in his past face-off, it becomes very interesting now, is Usyk going on his head now or just a strategy to make Usyk thinks he is intimidated.
For comparison, Fury is 262 pounds (119kg), so heavier by 39 pounds (almost 18kg).
~Or that it's Fury's subtle way of saying Usyk just looks ugly ;D
That was unusual for Fury. It was the first time I'd seen him like this in a face-off when interviewed and asked about it, he just said Usyk is one scary-looking dude, I don't know if it is a mind game or he is intimidated by Usyk, this is not the Fury we've seen in his past face-off, it becomes very interesting now, is Usyk going on his head now or just a strategy to make Usyk thinks he is intimidated.
For comparison, Fury is 262 pounds (119kg), so heavier by 39 pounds (almost 18kg).Fury has had more KO's than Usyk, although younger in age, his size has been an advantage.
Tyson Fury refuses a stare-down with Usyk, is this a sign that he is not confident that he could beat Usyk. Just weird though because this is the first i saw this scenario where a fighter refuses or does not engage in a stare-down.I believe Tyson Fury wants to act that way, not that he's not courageous or intimidated to look Usyk in the face, he just wants to act that way until the day when they face each other in the ring one-on-one, they both will unleash the monster in them. That time none of them will look elsewhere to fight.
I already made my bet for Fury to win by decision here. ML is also a great bet, but Fury by decision is 3.x.
And so this is going to be historic fight for boxing fans as this is a unification fight and for sure we doesn't want to miss this big fight. And it looks like Fury was lighter than usual, meaning he wants more movement and will try to outbox as much as he can Usyk.
So goodluck to anyone here.
I already made my bet for Fury to win by decision here. ML is also a great bet, but Fury by decision is 3.x.
And so this is going to be historic fight for boxing fans as this is a unification fight and for sure we doesn't want to miss this big fight. And it looks like Fury was lighter than usual, meaning he wants more movement and will try to outbox as much as he can Usyk.
So goodluck to anyone here.
I lost this one too but the close fight still made it worth betting on. I think Fury played too much in the early round. We all know that it's part of his fighting style but, in a fight with so much at stake, nobody could afford to waste a round.
I lost this one too but the close fight still made it worth betting on. I think Fury played too much in the early round. We all know that it's part of his fighting style but, in a fight with so much at stake, nobody could afford to waste a round.
The fact is that it is going to the championship round. Fury believes that he is leading in the scorecard, which is why he is toying around, but the fight could have been over in round 9 if only the referee had not interfered. Is there a ruling in standing 8 counts? All I know is that you have to go down to be counted.
I agree with the decision that Usyk deserves the decision he connected more, he is the more aggressive one, I lost a bet to my cousin but its nothing compared to the excitement of the fight, I read that they will run this again come October, so we'll see.
I lost this one too but the close fight still made it worth betting on. I think Fury played too much in the early round. We all know that it's part of his fighting style but, in a fight with so much at stake, nobody could afford to waste a round.
The fact is that it is going to the championship round. Fury believes that he is leading in the scorecard, which is why he is toying around, but the fight could have been over in round 9 if only the referee had not interfered. Is there a ruling in standing 8 counts? All I know is that you have to go down to be counted.
I agree with the decision that Usyk deserves the decision he connected more, he is the more aggressive one, I lost a bet to my cousin but its nothing compared to the excitement of the fight, I read that they will run this again come October, so we'll see.
I was also puzzled on why the referee interfered in that round, i thought he interferes to stop the fight and award Usyk the TKO by it seems the he saved Fury from being knockout, that's the first i saw that scenario in pro boxing but Usyk have won the fight and it is now for Fury to activate the rematch clause.
I don't know if there's any official boxing rule saying that a boxer needs to drop to the ground (or kneel etc) before he can be considered knocked down and the counting can begin, but if it's up for the referee to decide, then I see no controversy re the round 9 situation.
Tyson was in trouble but he was conscious, so stopping the fight would be completely wrong, and I don't think Fury would necessarily be KO'd cold if the referee didn't step in. Anything could've happened, but, to me, it looked like Fury was about to drop on his knee before he noticed the ref got between himself and Usyk.
This doesn't matter though, as Usyk has still won, and during the post-fight interview, he wasn't bothered by the situation at all.
I haven't seen the full fight yet, only the extensive highlights, but think Usyk won fair and square. The rematch should be really exciting.
I already made my bet for Fury to win by decision here. ML is also a great bet, but Fury by decision is 3.x.
And so this is going to be historic fight for boxing fans as this is a unification fight and for sure we doesn't want to miss this big fight. And it looks like Fury was lighter than usual, meaning he wants more movement and will try to outbox as much as he can Usyk.
So goodluck to anyone here.
We lost our bet bro as Usyk won by split decision, that could have been a very juicy odds if we bet for him hehe. A very close fight though that warrants a rematch, i just hope that they have a rematch clause.
I don't know if there's any official boxing rule saying that a boxer needs to drop to the ground (or kneel etc) before he can be considered knocked down and the counting can begin, but if it's up for the referee to decide, then I see no controversy re the round 9 situation.
Tyson was in trouble but he was conscious, so stopping the fight would be completely wrong, and I don't think Fury would necessarily be KO'd cold if the referee didn't step in. Anything could've happened, but, to me, it looked like Fury was about to drop on his knee before he noticed the ref got between himself and Usyk.
This doesn't matter though, as Usyk has still won, and during the post-fight interview, he wasn't bothered by the situation at all.
I haven't seen the full fight yet, only the extensive highlights, but think Usyk won fair and square. The rematch should be really exciting.
Fury was about to go down he couldn't even raise his hands, if it weren't for the referee stepping in, he'd be KO'd. i don't know if referee will also step in if this happens to Usyk but its definitely intervening to a fight result.
no referee would count it as knockdown when you just lean on ropes.
Fury was about to go down he couldn't even raise his hands, if it weren't for the referee stepping in, he'd be KO'd. i don't know if referee will also step in if this happens to Usyk but its definitely intervening to a fight result.
no referee would count it as knockdown when you just lean on ropes.
I watched the replay of round 9 numerous times to see if one of the gloves of Tyson Fury touched the canvas but neither touched the ground so the referee was saving Fury on what could have been a devastating KO loss, just my opinion though based on what I saw.
The rematch clause like Fury is going to win over Usyk comes on May 18. That's not possible because it will be another defeat for him and a huge amount of money to be given to him again for fighting Usyk for the second time.I lost this one too but the close fight still made it worth betting on. I think Fury played too much in the early round. We all know that it's part of his fighting style but, in a fight with so much at stake, nobody could afford to waste a round.
The fact is that it is going to the championship round. Fury believes that he is leading in the scorecard, which is why he is toying around, but the fight could have been over in round 9 if only the referee had not interfered. Is there a ruling in standing 8 counts? All I know is that you have to go down to be counted.
I agree with the decision that Usyk deserves the decision he connected more, he is the more aggressive one, I lost a bet to my cousin but its nothing compared to the excitement of the fight, I read that they will run this again come October, so we'll see.
I was also puzzled on why the referee interfered in that round, i thought he interferes to stop the fight and award Usyk the TKO by it seems the he saved Fury from being knockout, that's the first i saw that scenario in pro boxing but Usyk have won the fight and it is now for Fury to activate the rematch clause.
So far Usyk hasnt faced any heavyweight power puncher to be able to call his presence in heavyweight as reign. Daniel Dubois showed that Usyk isnt good against heavy punches, and Dubois wasnt a top heavyweight. Lets wait until Usyk meets someone like Deontay Wilder. Now that is going to a real test. Not to mention that he had only 6 fights in heavyweights, where Chisora isnt in prime form anymore, Witherspoon was about to retire.
Those ‘decisions’ will be in the hands of His Excellency Turki Alalshkih, who – like the fans- will also want the undisputed title to remain intact for the Usyk vs Fury rematch. The Saudi Chairman’s powers of persuasion should see Hrgovic agreeing to an ‘interim’ title being on the line for the Dubois fight, with the promise that the Croatian will face Usyk for all the hardware. -https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2024/05/22/usyk-ibf-exception-hrgovic-dubois-not-title/
By the way we read news that Usyk will only be undisputed champion for only two weeks because the IBF will strip him of the title and Hrgovic and Dubois will battle it for the title if Usyk agreed for a rematch but based on the IBF statement Usyk will still be their champion under this circumstancesQuoteThose ‘decisions’ will be in the hands of His Excellency Turki Alalshkih, who – like the fans- will also want the undisputed title to remain intact for the Usyk vs Fury rematch. The Saudi Chairman’s powers of persuasion should see Hrgovic agreeing to an ‘interim’ title being on the line for the Dubois fight, with the promise that the Croatian will face Usyk for all the hardware. -https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2024/05/22/usyk-ibf-exception-hrgovic-dubois-not-title/
This is good news because we still want to see the rematch where all the titles are all for grabs
By the way we read news that Usyk will only be undisputed champion for only two weeks because the IBF will strip him of the title and Hrgovic and Dubois will battle it for the title if Usyk agreed for a rematch but based on the IBF statement Usyk will still be their champion under this circumstancesQuoteThose ‘decisions’ will be in the hands of His Excellency Turki Alalshkih, who – like the fans- will also want the undisputed title to remain intact for the Usyk vs Fury rematch. The Saudi Chairman’s powers of persuasion should see Hrgovic agreeing to an ‘interim’ title being on the line for the Dubois fight, with the promise that the Croatian will face Usyk for all the hardware. -https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2024/05/22/usyk-ibf-exception-hrgovic-dubois-not-title/
This is good news because we still want to see the rematch where all the titles are all for grabs
The also looked strange to me. When Usyk landed those punches and Fury start to daze and dance around, usually fighters jump on their opponent with furious attacks and TKO opponents. This time, Usyk was either cautious, or was looking for one clear shot, or I dont know. As if he waited for referee to stop him from landing numerous unanswered punches, or referee was disturbed him with his either he is interfering and stopping or not the fight. Or referee was saving Fury from TKO. Or it was done un purpose because they have a rematch and they need a reason for that (split win looks better towards rematch than TKO). Strange feeling after that near to TKO situation.Or he was short in breath? But by the looks of it then it isnt really that he's really that struggling or really just that trying out to recover. Just like you then this is also what i have observed that it do really looks like that its been interveined out on purpose to have that possible recovery. It is true that having that split decision rather than on having that complete TKO for Usyk against Fury
Yes, it's fair that in the rematch all the titles should be on the line. But we can see how powerful broker HE Turki Alalshkih, he was able to persuade Hrgovic and Dubois that their fight should be interim. And the IBF should not be kill joy though, I'm thinking that the organization can also be paid with handsome money to step aside their plans and let Hrgovic and Dubois be interim. Everyone is still at awe at Usyk's performance though, as I have said, he could surpassed Fury in this era as the best heavyweight if he can win in the rematch. And most likely Fury will still going to fight, but I guess his last one will be for all the British title, against Joshua.
Speaking of a rematch I think they will do it because of the massive PPV buys that this fight got. I have read an article (hope not fake news though) that the purse and PPV numbers have been split and Fury got a massive $145M while Usyk got $50M, that's a lot of money on both of them. I guess in the rematch, Usyk will get the larger piece of the pie this time around.
Speaking of a rematch I think they will do it because of the massive PPV buys that this fight got. I have read an article (hope not fake news though) that the purse and PPV numbers have been split and Fury got a massive $145M while Usyk got $50M, that's a lot of money on both of them. I guess in the rematch, Usyk will get the larger piece of the pie this time around.You should have shared the link to the article from where you saw those figures, because I saw $100 million for Fury and $45 million for Usyk based on the 70/30 split decision that they had in the contract. Fury earns more from the fight despite loosing because he has more popularity than Usyk, and he was more of the reason people saw the fight and paid for it.
Speaking of a rematch I think they will do it because of the massive PPV buys that this fight got. I have read an article (hope not fake news though) that the purse and PPV numbers have been split and Fury got a massive $145M while Usyk got $50M, that's a lot of money on both of them. I guess in the rematch, Usyk will get the larger piece of the pie this time around.You should have shared the link to the article from where you saw those figures, because I saw $100 million for Fury and $45 million for Usyk based on the 70/30 split decision that they had in the contract. Fury earns more from the fight despite loosing because he has more popularity than Usyk, and he was more of the reason people saw the fight and paid for it.
source (https://www.marca.com/en/boxing/2024/05/21/664cae5122601d2d538b45ab.html)
The also looked strange to me. When Usyk landed those punches and Fury start to daze and dance around, usually fighters jump on their opponent with furious attacks and TKO opponents. This time, Usyk was either cautious, or was looking for one clear shot, or I dont know. As if he waited for referee to stop him from landing numerous unanswered punches, or referee was disturbed him with his either he is interfering and stopping or not the fight. Or referee was saving Fury from TKO. Or it was done un purpose because they have a rematch and they need a reason for that (split win looks better towards rematch than TKO). Strange feeling after that near to TKO situation.It was quite obvious that the referee interfered in the fight for Fury not experience a KO defeat in his career fight as a champion. It would have been somehow if that had happened because many thought he would win Usyk since he's the undisputed heavyweight champion who hasn't lost any match before after having 32 fights. Experience a KO defeat for the first time, wouldn't speak well of him as a boxing champion, to think of a rematches
Speaking of a rematch I think they will do it because of the massive PPV buys that this fight got. I have read an article (hope not fake news though) that the purse and PPV numbers have been split and Fury got a massive $145M while Usyk got $50M, that's a lot of money on both of them. I guess in the rematch, Usyk will get the larger piece of the pie this time around.
Speaking of a rematch I think they will do it because of the massive PPV buys that this fight got. I have read an article (hope not fake news though) that the purse and PPV numbers have been split and Fury got a massive $145M while Usyk got $50M, that's a lot of money on both of them. I guess in the rematch, Usyk will get the larger piece of the pie this time around.
A rematch is almost guaranteed, unless one of them deliberately pulls out. They had a rematch clause in the contract, so I wouldn't be surprised if there were some penalties involved for pulling out. I believe it's tentatively scheduled for the beginning of October. And there will be a lot of interest, maybe even more than in the first fight, given how close it was and given Fury, in his trilogy against Wilder, proved that he performs better in rematches.
It's good to know that the rematch will be this October and yeah, i agree that Fury is good at rematches. Although i lost me bet on him on this fight but still i'm gonna be rooting for him again in the rematch which i thick he will be the underdog that time.
It's good to know that the rematch will be this October and yeah, i agree that Fury is good at rematches. Although i lost me bet on him on this fight but still i'm gonna be rooting for him again in the rematch which i thick he will be the underdog that time.
Usyk has filed a request to retain his IBF title he is about to get stripped of his IBF title for failing to defend his IBF title to the mandatory challenger Hrgovic, the request was confirmed so it will be another unification bout in October.
I don't think the possibility of Usyk being stripped of the IBF belt would be any threat to the rematch with Fury. The rematch will happen regardless of the IBF's decision.That is right, the rematch will go on as schedule on October, but what Usyk wanted is that the belt in the rematch is still intact. He would like to honor his words at least so that Fury will have a equal chance to get all the belts as well if he win.
That's simply because the only way for Fury to save his face/legacy is to go out there and take his revenge on Usyk. What other option does he have? Refuse to fight because the number of belts is not quite the same as in their 1st fight? That would be nonsense.
As for the IBF belt, it's a bit weird that we're only a few days away from Hrgovic Vs Dubois and nobody seems to know whether it's going to be a fight for the belt, interim belt, or no belt at all.Chances are it could be a interim IBF belt. But let's see how it will be treated by the organization. They say they are the least corrupt amongst the organization, and at the same time very lenient as well.
I think we can rule out the belt, as Usyk is on medical suspension until 2nd June, unless the IBF really want to strip him (I don't believe they are) and will find some loophole to do it before the 1st.Well the loophole could be that if he is in medical suspension, then how can they strip him of the belt? Or how can Usyk defend it in the next 6 days?
^ AJ finally have the chance to fight Fury in case Fury wins in the rematch. if its Usyk who wins, it will be their 3rd fight. lucky him to get all these chances.
for me there is really no reason for Usyk and Fury rematch, the fight clearly is won by Usyk by wide margin and even a KO if not stopped by the ref. if there is a reason to fight over again, it should be to take the IBF belt. which means Fury should first fight AJ to win the IBF belt and then the awaited rematch Fury vs Usyk 2.
^ AJ finally have the chance to fight Fury in case Fury wins in the rematch. if its Usyk who wins, it will be their 3rd fight. lucky him to get all these chances.
for me there is really no reason for Usyk and Fury rematch, the fight clearly is won by Usyk by wide margin and even a KO if not stopped by the ref. if there is a reason to fight over again, it should be to take the IBF belt. which means Fury should first fight AJ to win the IBF belt and then the awaited rematch Fury vs Usyk 2.
The hype is not very huge in case Fury and Joshua fight directly for the IBF belt and besides i do think that IBF would strip the belt away from Usyk. It will be good if Joshua will just wait if Fury will win in the rematch as people will be excited on that one.
OK, we have a date for the rematch. It will take place just before Christmas, on 21st December:The fight was very entertaining, I need to see them fight again, and I am happy that their contract had a rematch clause.
OK, we have a date for the rematch. It will take place just before Christmas, on 21st December:
https://talksport.com/sport/1899340/tyson-fury-vs-oleksandr-usyk-new-rematch-date-confirmed/
credit to JollyGood for posting this on BTT
Usyk almost definitely will not be stripped before 2nd June, but that's not to say the IBF cannot do it after that date.
Given the rematch is scheduled 2 months later than initially indicated, any potential mandatory defense will not take place until around a year from now at the earliest. I find it hard to believe the IBF will grant the exception and postpone the defense for that long, as it would be unfair to the challengers. Plus, there's no guarantee the winner of the rematch will be interested in defending that belt at all.
I expect there will be no interim belt on the line on Saturday and Usyk to be stripped after the 2nd of June. Then the fight between Hrgovic/Dubois and Anthony Joshua would be for the proper belt (not the interim one).
I don't see much sense in introducing an interim belt given Usyk is not seriously injured and would be ready to fight if he wanted to.
I anticipate the rematch to be entertaining of course as both fighters will have themselves train and prepare for the rematch(six months for that).OK, we have a date for the rematch. It will take place just before Christmas, on 21st December:The fight was very entertaining, I need to see them fight again, and I am happy that their contract had a rematch clause.
Fury has to train like hell, because this fight will be on record even if there are no belts on the line. We were the fans and are witnessing this history. We already know that Usyk dealt a big surprise to Fury in the first fight; it will not be a surprise in the rematch if Usyk wins again because then it will signal an end to the career of Fury. I expect the rematch to be more entertaining than the first.
I think it is time to lock this thread and open a new discussion on their rematch even if it is still seven months it's worth discussing as many speculations, news, rumours and changes that are going to happen and we can have a continuation of the conversation on a new thread OP can start a new one after he lock this thread.
The International Boxing Federation [IBF] has made it official, confirming that Daniel Dubois (21-2, 20 KOs) is mandatory for Oleksandr Usyk’s IBF heavyweight title with their organization after Dubois’ eighth-round technical knockout win last Saturday night at the Kingdom Arena in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.
While Dubois is now the IBF interim heavyweight champion, he’s negotiating a fight against Anthony Joshua for September 21st at Wembley Stadium in London, England.
So they did put the interim IBF on the line in the last moment after all. I didn't know that.
I honestly don't know if that would mean that Usyk is more likely to get stripped or not.
Dubois is already contracted to fight AJ in late September, so even if Usyk decided he is willing to defend his belt before the rematch with Fury, the fight won't happen anyway.
So probably the IBF will allow him to keep it, and the September fight Dubois Vs AJ will be for an interim belt. A situation when an interim champ is defending his belt against other fighters, while the original champ is not injured is a bit odd, but hey.
I don't think he will be stripped though, they will make it a unification fight still between Usyk and Fury. But after that, it could be a different story. I reckon the winner should defend at least the IBF belt to the interim champion. If the winner can't defend it, then they should relegated the interim champion to the regular champion.
lt was quite embarrassing to see someone of his status very drunk and even struggling to be on his feet. Although some people may argue that pubs and drinking experts of the British culture but seeing him drunk just after it defeat in a very important fight shows that he has not shaking off and accepted the result from the last fight.
not sure if there will still be a rematch between the two. but Fury Fury wasn't handling the loss well. and just like Ryan, he was also drinking heavily, just today i saw this post about him got shitfaced and was escorted out the pub.
https://x.com/HappyPunch/status/1800323344123736118
after all the money he won, he is still just like the rest of the fighters who lost a fight and left with broken spirit. someone should stop him from reading comments on the internet ;D
not sure if there will still be a rematch between the two. but Fury Fury wasn't handling the loss well. and just like Ryan, he was also drinking heavily, just today i saw this post about him got shitfaced and was escorted out the pub.
https://x.com/HappyPunch/status/1800323344123736118
after all the money he won, he is still just like the rest of the fighters who lost a fight and left with broken spirit. someone should stop him from reading comments on the internet ;D
A complete disappointment indeed coming from him.
not sure if there will still be a rematch between the two. but Fury Fury wasn't handling the loss well. and just like Ryan, he was also drinking heavily, just today i saw this post about him got shitfaced and was escorted out the pub.
https://x.com/HappyPunch/status/1800323344123736118
after all the money he won, he is still just like the rest of the fighters who lost a fight and left with broken spirit. someone should stop him from reading comments on the internet ;D
Anyway, I don't think that this will affect him, and he will pursue that rematch because after all, he wants a revenge against Usyk. Fighters can fell their spirit broken because they're human after all. It's a human nature. What matters now is how he can recover from this one, and his first loss. :)
not sure if there will still be a rematch between the two. but Fury Fury wasn't handling the loss well. and just like Ryan, he was also drinking heavily, just today i saw this post about him got shitfaced and was escorted out the pub.
https://x.com/HappyPunch/status/1800323344123736118
after all the money he won, he is still just like the rest of the fighters who lost a fight and left with broken spirit. someone should stop him from reading comments on the internet ;D
Reminds of Ricky Hatton, after his devastating lost to Manny Pacquiao, he goes on devastated and went into depression, getting into alcohol in the beginning and then drugs later.
Hopefully Fury has much stronger moral fundaments that won't let him fall too deep if his career doesn't go as planned.He has family that can help him through this difficult time, and he is also a believer in the Christian faith, so that can help him as well.
Reminds of Ricky Hatton, after his devastating lost to Manny Pacquiao, he goes on devastated and went into depression, getting into alcohol in the beginning and then drugs later.
Yeah, the end of Ricky's career wasn't pretty.
I guess that's what happens when all the perception of self-worth is derived from your career successes and when it abruptly gets taken away from you.
Hopefully Fury has much stronger moral fundaments that won't let him fall too deep if his career doesn't go as planned.
not sure if there will still be a rematch between the two. but Fury Fury wasn't handling the loss well. and just like Ryan, he was also drinking heavily, just today i saw this post about him got shitfaced and was escorted out the pub.Tyson Fury is back to his fit. I learned recently that he has gone back to training, to prepare for his rematch against Usyk.
https://x.com/HappyPunch/status/1800323344123736118
after all the money he won, he is still just like the rest of the fighters who lost a fight and left with broken spirit. someone should stop him from reading comments on the internet ;D
not sure if there will still be a rematch between the two. but Fury Fury wasn't handling the loss well. and just like Ryan, he was also drinking heavily, just today i saw this post about him got shitfaced and was escorted out the pub.Tyson Fury is back to his fit. I learned recently that he has gone back to training, to prepare for his rematch against Usyk.
https://x.com/HappyPunch/status/1800323344123736118
after all the money he won, he is still just like the rest of the fighters who lost a fight and left with broken spirit. someone should stop him from reading comments on the internet ;D
In life, not everyone can take up defeat for the first time in their career and act like nothing happened. When I heard about the news of Tyson Fury's spotted drug, I felt bad for him, but at the same knows that he's gonna feel better. When he does, he would face his fears with his full flesh being.
“It was actually a lot easier than I thought it would be, the Usyk fight – a lot easier,” Fury said on his FUROCITY podcast. “People saying, ‘Oh, he’s a hard man to hit.’ I was lighting him up with three-, four-punch combinations, laughing at him. My problem in that fight, I probably had too much fun. It was probably too easy. At times, it was too easy.Apparently, he laughed at Usyk, and it came to a point where he became too cocky hence, he paid the price by getting knocked down in the 9th round and that possibly changed the whole fight. Anyway, we will see a rematch in the end of the year, and he must win this one to get those titles and have a trilogy. :D
“It was like I was in there with a local amateur boxer, and I was just enjoying it too much, messing around. (I) paid the ultimate price in Round 9 where I got a 10-8 round and got clipped. That’s what happens when you have too much fun. They always tell me, ‘Never mix your work with having fun,’ and I always gave them the middle finger, and it’s come back now to me.”
Did anybody read this article already regarding an interview where Fury is saying that "fight was too easy at times, like he was in there with a local amateur boxer". Here's the LINK (https://sports.yahoo.com/tyson-fury-says-oleksandr-usyk-220023895.html).Quote“It was actually a lot easier than I thought it would be, the Usyk fight – a lot easier,” Fury said on his FUROCITY podcast. “People saying, ‘Oh, he’s a hard man to hit.’ I was lighting him up with three-, four-punch combinations, laughing at him. My problem in that fight, I probably had too much fun. It was probably too easy. At times, it was too easy.Apparently, he laughed at Usyk, and it came to a point where he became too cocky hence, he paid the price by getting knocked down in the 9th round and that possibly changed the whole fight. Anyway, we will see a rematch in the end of the year, and he must win this one to get those titles and have a trilogy. :D
“It was like I was in there with a local amateur boxer, and I was just enjoying it too much, messing around. (I) paid the ultimate price in Round 9 where I got a 10-8 round and got clipped. That’s what happens when you have too much fun. They always tell me, ‘Never mix your work with having fun,’ and I always gave them the middle finger, and it’s come back now to me.”
Now that the rematch has been set this end of the year, i think Fury will have a different game plan to beat Usyk and not be over-confident this time around.
And it happened. Oleksandr Usyk has vacated his IBF belt:
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/article/2024/jun/26/oleksandr-usyk-vacates-ibf-world-title-daniel-dubois-anthony-joshua
Not much of a surprise here. I knew that was very likely to happen. Especially after they introduced the interim belt and we know that the winner will be fighting AJ next.
It might be an unpopular opinion but I think the IBF did the right thing (assuming they forced Usyk to vacate it rather that being his decision).
The rules are there for a reason, and if the champ is not willing to fight the mandatory challenger despite being healthy, he should be stripped.
And from the the IBF perspective, it's probably more prestigious to have their own champion rather than being just a part of a bundle. Especially when it creates a potential for another unifying match later down the line.