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Crypto Discussion Forum => Cryptocurrency discussions => Topic started by: Faisal2202 on June 03, 2024, 05:19:31 PM
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Currently, Airdrop hunting is at its peak, and everyone is joining them. I also join new and old airdrops regularly. The question here is, when we join new airdrop some of them require us to create a new wallet, and some of the wallets they require is not metamask it is their specific wallet, like some else. And we can't just copy the seed phrases from them we have to write them down manually.
I don't know of any other way to write them down, so what I do is, I take the screenshot and give it to the Edge Copilot and ask him to extract the words from the picture and it extracts the exact same words. Sometimes some wallet's copy system is not good. This means when we click copy seed phrase. It also copies the serial number as 1:Blah 2: Blah.
I don't want these numbers so to save time as in airdrop hunting we need to save time as if we can. I give the 12 or 24 words to the AI bot and ask it to remove these serial numbers and give me the words written side by side. And it do it for me in a matter of seconds.
So the question is,
1.Is it safe to use AI bots to do such things. I mean can they see our 12 phrases. Even if they can see, will they use it. Even if the platform is of Google's, Microsoft, GPTs etc. etc. I mean even if they are worthy enough of our searches,
2.Can hacker could use some types of web scripts that can extract our data from these AI bots.
Out of all the questions,
3.Should I remove the history regularly, and if I don't, can hackers somehow extract the words from the history?
I know its not safe, but I don't really care about these spare wallets which I use for some low quality airdrops. Because the ones which are good, don't require us to use some specific wallet. As we can use any web3 on it. I am still asking if its really possible or really not safe as I am not so sure.
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I don't know of any other way to write them down, so what I do is, I take the screenshot and give it to the Edge Copilot and ask him to extract the words from the picture and it extracts the exact same words. Sometimes some wallet's copy system is not good. This means when we click copy seed phrase. It also copies the serial number as 1:Blah 2: Blah.
Of course this is risky. Just don't do it.
Write the seed in a piece of paper.
If you are lazy, you can just write it in a txt.file or screenshot and encrypt them.
If you are even lazier (because there is nothing there), just keep them unencrypted .
But I highly recommend a piece of paper.
Never share your seed with AI. Nobody knows how they work, and they might share with other person by accident (like using your seed as example or whatever
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I don't know of any other way to write them down, so what I do is, I take the screenshot and give it to the Edge Copilot and ask him to extract the words from the picture and it extracts the exact same words.
One malware and that wallet is done for, you have some risky ways of getting and protecting your seeds
Sometimes some wallet's copy system is not good. This means when we click copy seed phrase.
Normally wallets shouldn't allow you to copy the text, this is a way to make sure the user writes it down and does not just go copy past and then drops it from the clipboard by mistake.
I know its not safe, but I don't really care about these spare wallets which I use for some low quality airdrops.
If you don't care about them and you just want to receive something and then dump on an exchange then why be bothered by this aspect alone, someone hacking your account/browser and checking your AI assistant history or anything else would imply the hacker has already got more from you than just that seed.
But seriously, how hard is to delete 24 numbers? How many wallets do you actually generate each day so this would be that time-consuming?
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But seriously, how hard is to delete 24 numbers? How many wallets do you actually generate each day so this would be that time-consuming?
Obviously a lot if you need AI help ;)
I don't know what people will want from AI anymore, but I believe that in a few years the world will be a very strange place where people will communicate less and less with each other, and more and more with AI.
Recently a video of people working on AI went viral when they finally upgraded their AI to literally talk to you in real time - and when Mr.Mars releases his chips for general use then we'll have AI literally in our head so OP will just be able to look at his seed and it will be automatically saved...somewhere...
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Personally, I do not think that it is safe, as long as the artificial intelligence writes the seed, it can definitely access it through the records, because it is certain that all the data is kept in the background.
The artificial intelligence database can be hacked by some malicious programs, and these programs can also hunt for texts copied into memory, so it would be very dangerous to use this method.
But if, as you say, the airdrops are fake or trivial, I do not think that it would be a big risk since it is not of great importance.
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Its high time we begin to realized that the use of AI could not be applicable in every aspect of cryptocurrency for our own personal safety and privacy, because these bits we are considering were being developed by people, if we subscribe to anyone, we don't know if they have privacy term bridge that could lead to exposing anything from our information later in future, except if we are only developing one for the use of our own self.
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I know its not safe, but I don't really care about these spare wallets which I use for some low quality airdrops. Because the ones which are good, don't require us to use some specific wallet. As we can use any web3 on it. I am still asking if its really possible or really not safe as I am not so sure.
First of all, I do not trust AI, which means that I do not hand over my important data such as private keys to AI and accept the risk of losing my crypto assets to hackers or the creators of AI bots.
We only have a few well-known and truly vibrant ecosystems in the market: Bitcoin, Ethereum, Solana, BNB chain, Ton, Avalanche, Cardano, Fantom, Near, Polkadot, Cosmos... I think each airdrop hunter only needs to spend a few minutes to create an account and save the private key to use for dozens of airdrops in the future. I do not participate in airdrops using multi-accounts, so I do not need to use AI for account management purposes. Some multichain wallet applications can provide dozens of accounts on dozens of different blockchains. The only thing users need to do is manage the root account key.
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I know its not safe, but I don't really care about these spare wallets which I use for some low quality airdrops. Because the ones which are good, don't require us to use some specific wallet. As we can use any web3 on it. I am still asking if its really possible or really not safe as I am not so sure.
While I understand your concern that you want to save some time and the hassle of writing for yourself the seed phrases, I fully agree that what you are doing may not really be safe. So the best thing to do is to do it manually, unless there is a proven fast and fast alternative to do so. As always better be safe than sorry. Now, this is one of the things I don't like with airdrops as many of them require you to download their own wallets and you have to register with them individually, not like when an airdrop is just using BSC, ETH or even SOL wallets. Well, anyway, this is one of the things that we must accomplish in order to be a part of an airdrop which we are hoping will be a valuable coin or token into the future.
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All artificial intelligence algorithms use the data they obtain to improve the efficiency of deep learning. Therefore, once you enter any sensitive data, it is sent to external servers, archived and tried to learn from it.
in other words, do not use that wallet again.
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AI is not a random number generator. Their outputs are so deterministic that you would actually be safer using an insecure Mersene Twister pseudo RNG for generating the mnemonic words than some robot. Not to mention the fact that other people can see what you generate and so your funds will instantly be wiped out.
Seriously, don't do it.
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I don't know of any other way to write them down, so what I do is, I take the screenshot and give it to the Edge Copilot and ask him to extract the words from the picture and it extracts the exact same words. Sometimes some wallet's copy system is not good. This means when we click copy seed phrase. It also copies the serial number as 1:Blah 2: Blah.
You don't need AI to obtain the text from screenshot. Windows built in application called "Snipping Tool" can do that for you. Check this guide, https://allthings.how/how-to-copy-text-from-an-image-using-snipping-tool-on-windows-11/ (https://allthings.how/how-to-copy-text-from-an-image-using-snipping-tool-on-windows-11/).
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I believe it is not a safe practice to do so. Extracting your seed phrase with AI or any programmed tool is unsafe because they are all built by developers who have access to them at anytime. These bots and extracting tools can be compromised at any point in time revealing details to whom ever decides to exploit them.
It is never a safe idea to use such for writing down your seed phrase irrespective of whether the airdrop is legit or fake as you never can tell what would happen. It is advisable to write them down manually in your safe book or sheet of paper and store them in a safe place where only you have access to. If you you think using AI bot and others are safe why do you think google cloud is not advisable to use on storing such details? Google cloud is something similar to AI bot as they are all programmed function which means of hacked, details could be extracted from them.
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AI is not a random number generator. Their outputs are so deterministic that you would actually be safer using an insecure Mersene Twister pseudo RNG for generating the mnemonic words than some robot. Not to mention the fact that other people can see what you generate and so your funds will instantly be wiped out.
Seriously, don't do it.
He's not looking for an AI to determine his seed, he is asking an assistant to remove the numbers before his keywords
Probably his wallet shows him the seed as
1) cow
2) butcher
3) hamburger
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and he wants the 1), 2), 3) .....removed
I don't know what people will want from AI anymore, but I believe that in a few years the world will be a very strange place where people will communicate less and less with each other, and more and more with AI.
In a few years?
https://candy.ai/nsfw-ai-chat ..... ;)
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- The old airdrops, as far as I know, are very different from the current airdrops because, back then, you had to sign up, then just put your wallet address,
and it's okay. Compared to now, that is no longer the case because, in this era, you need to use their platform protocol first.
Then, you still need to make a deposit because this is one of their requirements: they must see that you are performing an activity in their protocol. But it's still tentative if they do airdrops; there's no certainty yet. And there's what you say: if you don't agree with the metamask wallet, I'd rather not participate because there's a high chance that your fund will be in trouble.
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I don't know what people will want from AI anymore, but I believe that in a few years the world will be a very strange place where people will communicate less and less with each other, and more and more with AI.
In a few years?
https://candy.ai/nsfw-ai-chat ..... ;)
I know that this is already happening today, but in a few years it will become "normal" behavior that no one will pay attention to anymore. The number of people who spend a lot of time in the virtual world today is certainly very large, but in ten years I would dare to say that 50% of all people will at some point be completely separated from the real world, whether it is virtual reality or something that is not yet invented.
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Never share your seed with AI. Nobody knows how they work, and they might share with other person by accident (like using your seed as example or whatever
Till now I have downloaded 50+ wallets and sometimes I have to recover them while I am not in the house, in such situation I can't carry the notebook (where I wrote them) with me, even if I carry it I consider it risking my seed phrases. It won't be a problem only if I encrypt them which I already did to my main wallet and wrote it on the paper. But as we all know paper is vulnerable to disasters but that's another thing.
Speaking of them sharing it with another person, that's not a thing, for example you can convince an AI Bot (GPT) that 2+2 is 5 but if another people ask GPT what's 2+2 it will say 4. As GPT only give answers on the basis of what you are asking and it checks your preferences and your behaviour to give you a satisfactory answer.
You don't need AI to obtain the text from screenshot. Windows built in application called "Snipping Tool" can do that for you. Check this guide, https://allthings.how/how-to-copy-text-from-an-image-using-snipping-tool-on-windows-11/ (https://allthings.how/how-to-copy-text-from-an-image-using-snipping-tool-on-windows-11/).
I don't use Windows 11 but my system supports it, I might upgrade my Windows in the coming days, as I am currently doing some work which is why I can't update it. BTW thanks for adding this to my knowledge as I did not know this before. Overall, Windows 11 must have a lot of other features as well, I guess I should give a try to learn about them in my spare time.
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seed phrases A lot of impact If someone loses it, he can no longer access his wallet, and if it goes to a 2nd person, he can immediately access the wallet and transfer all funds. So the seed phrases have to be very careful. In this case, you can keep it on a pen drive or write it down on a piece of paper. Since it is not possible to memorize it, it has to be stored in some way. So no Ai bots or phrases should be put in any way that is likely to be hacked
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My answer would be a firm no, I would never use AI for that. People should seek more information about what AI is instead of thinking or believing that it is something magical that will revolutionize the world just like the Internet did a few decades ago. The difference between LLM and IA is considerable and complex to explain, but the most important thing is that everything, absolutely everything, is stored in logs, large databases that store all user interaction to continue "learning". So, from my point of view, it is not something to take into account in terms of security. And it doesn't matter if that data is in the hands of Microsoft, Google or any other company. I do not trust them.
In this article there is useful and clear information about the differences between LLMs and AI: Large language models (LLMs) vs generative AI: what’s the difference? (https://www.algolia.com/blog/ai/large-language-models-llms-vs-generative-ai-whats-the-difference/).
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I think each airdrop hunter only needs to spend a few minutes to create an account and save the private key to use for dozens of airdrops in the future. I do not participate in airdrops using multi-accounts,
I also don't join airdrops using multi-accounts, actually, I had one account first, I only joined all airdrops from it as we know, we need galxe in order to join most of the airdrops, and we can only attach 1 discord to galxe and we can only join 100 groups in the free version of discord. And once the discord was full (which until it says full I did not know about). So, I made another account and started to join all the discord-related airdrops from that account, and the airdrops that don't require discord I joined it from the 1st account.
I hope this does not fall into farming. Overall is it allowed to talk about farming on this forum? As from the POV of platforms, they don't like it even if they get benefits out of it, they don't like it because the rewards are not going to the real hustlers. I hope my way doesn't fall into farming.
How many wallets do you actually generate each day so this would be that time-consuming?
I have around 54 wallets, I already told MrSpasybo about the situation I am in, as I have two accounts one have discord full so can't join airdrops including discord tasks and one is not full yet so I join discord related tasks from that account. I can't change the discord on Galxe as well. And I doubt if the second discord will be full then I have to create 3rd account for joining new airdrops.
And the number of wallets will increase. To get full context of what I am saying you can read the reply I made to MrSpasybo above. Overall, to save time I do anything haha, I know these wallets don't have any funds in them maybe little pennies about which I don't care.
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You don't need AI to obtain the text from screenshot. Windows built in application called "Snipping Tool" can do that for you. Check this guide, https://allthings.how/how-to-copy-text-from-an-image-using-snipping-tool-on-windows-11/ (https://allthings.how/how-to-copy-text-from-an-image-using-snipping-tool-on-windows-11/).
I don't use Windows 11 but my system supports it, I might upgrade my Windows in the coming days, as I am currently doing some work which is why I can't update it. BTW thanks for adding this to my knowledge as I did not know this before. Overall, Windows 11 must have a lot of other features as well, I guess I should give a try to learn about them in my spare time.
Good to see that feature also available outside Windows 11. Anyway, there's no need to force yourself upgrade to WIndows 11 when Windows 10 still receive update and if none of your application/job require Windows 11. Besides, i'm sure there are other similar software which do same thing.
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Personally, I do not think that it is safe, as long as the artificial intelligence writes the seed, it can definitely access it through the records, because it is certain that all the data is kept in the background.
The artificial intelligence database can be hacked by some malicious programs, and these programs can also hunt for texts copied into memory, so it would be very dangerous to use this method.
But if, as you say, the airdrops are fake or trivial, I do not think that it would be a big risk since it is not of great importance.
That's right I don't think the owners of these AI bots I am using are going to use my seed phrases for their own good, I think hackers might get access to these databases where they are keeping the data of the user. I think in order to save my funds, I should seek an AI tool that only saves data on my site, maybe in the logs, and not saving data on their own databases but I doubt there would be any tool because AI tools must need a data model.
Obviously a lot if you need AI help ;)
I don't know what people will want from AI anymore, but I believe that in a few years the world will be a very strange place where people will communicate less and less with each other, and more and more with AI.
Recently a video of people working on AI went viral when they finally upgraded their AI to literally talk to you in real time - and when Mr.Mars releases his chips for general use then we'll have AI literally in our head so OP will just be able to look at his seed and it will be automatically saved...somewhere...
Saving words in your head via AI is still considered risky if using an AI bot is risky. Involvement of AI makes things risky. That's what most of the members are saying, I read somewhere that Elon said, that in recent times everyone in the developed (I added the world developed he did not say it) countries will have AI bots in there home (No *ex dolls but maybe simple AI companion bots).
The world is really going to change in recent times, AI and Graphics technologies are making great progress.
Its high time we begin to realized that the use of AI could not be applicable in every aspect of cryptocurrency for our own personal safety and privacy, because these bits we are considering were being developed by people, if we subscribe to anyone, we don't know if they have privacy term bridge that could lead to exposing anything from our information later in future, except if we are only developing one for the use of our own self.
You are right we should not use AI tools as they store out data and can even access it what if they say they can't access it, what if they don't even store our data, what if what we ask them is stored on our end I think that's more risky.
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Currently, Airdrop hunting is at its peak, and everyone is joining them. I also join new and old airdrops regularly. The question here is, when we join new airdrop some of them require us to create a new wallet, and some of the wallets they require is not metamask it is their specific wallet, like some else. And we can't just copy the seed phrases from them we have to write them down manually.
I don't know of any other way to write them down, so what I do is, I take the screenshot and give it to the Edge Copilot and ask him to extract the words from the picture and it extracts the exact same words. Sometimes some wallet's copy system is not good. This means when we click copy seed phrase. It also copies the serial number as 1:Blah 2: Blah.
I don't want these numbers so to save time as in airdrop hunting we need to save time as if we can. I give the 12 or 24 words to the AI bot and ask it to remove these serial numbers and give me the words written side by side. And it do it for me in a matter of seconds.
So the question is,
1.Is it safe to use AI bots to do such things. I mean can they see our 12 phrases. Even if they can see, will they use it. Even if the platform is of Google's, Microsoft, GPTs etc. etc. I mean even if they are worthy enough of our searches,
2.Can hacker could use some types of web scripts that can extract our data from these AI bots.
Out of all the questions,
3.Should I remove the history regularly, and if I don't, can hackers somehow extract the words from the history?
I know its not safe, but I don't really care about these spare wallets which I use for some low quality airdrops. Because the ones which are good, don't require us to use some specific wallet. As we can use any web3 on it. I am still asking if its really possible or really not safe as I am not so sure.
That's a really good question but privacy? it's a NO-NO..
Bot will use that as example for someone who wants to know how does crypto seed phrase looks like. Some employees at AI team could look into conversation to review and can see it n stole it.
Anways, to make money, let's not be lazy though. after all airdrop is free so you must make some efforts to do tasks and earn.
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AI is not a random number generator. Their outputs are so deterministic that you would actually be safer using an insecure Mersene Twister pseudo RNG for generating the mnemonic words than some robot. Not to mention the fact that other people can see what you generate and so your funds will instantly be wiped out.
Seriously, don't do it.
What do you mean by other people can see what I generate, are you talking about my history as if I ask something they create a history of it, if that's what then I can delete it. what if I make my own AI bot, but to design an AI bot we need models and we can't really design one easily, so mostly we use pre-built ones? I am not using the AI bots that use pre-built open source, free models I use the AI bots like of Microsoft, Google, GPTs, etc. For extraction purposes, I use mostly Gemini (google's) or Copilot of Microsift Edge.
While I understand your concern that you want to save some time and the hassle of writing for yourself the seed phrases, I fully agree that what you are doing may not really be safe. So the best thing to do is to do it manually, unless there is a proven fast and fast alternative to do so. As always better be safe than sorry.
From your words I can say you have experience of joining airdrops, because till your post none of the posts did not mentioned they have to download specific wallets for each airdrop, as I already shared before with someone that I have more than 50 wallets till now. BTW, if you have any experience can you tell us what to do if our Discord attached with Galxe is now fully occupied and we can't join any more groups now (I know we can buy it but I don't want to).
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I don't want these numbers so to save time as in airdrop hunting we need to save time as if we can. I give the 12 or 24 words to the AI bot and ask it to remove these serial numbers and give me the words written side by side. And it do it for me in a matter of seconds.
AI indexes everything they record they have a database for this and we always warn when creating a new wallet to always secure it and write it down, some wallets don't allow copy-paste and ask you to write it down because it is on Satoshis principle that you should be the only owner of the seed phrase and only share to someone you completely trust.
So if you utilize these AI and the airdrops coins that are on these wallets become valuable assets the wallet will be exposed to hacking.
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I won't actually encouraged using any AI to copy seed phrase because you don't know what it's made up if they are saving personal data from there ends, next it's advisable to jut it with pen and paper than to use any tools to copy your seed phrase, even though there seems to be trust or you noticed you don't have any important thing to do with wallet created for airdrops some people could put your address on a watch list to monitor when something huge gets into your address then they swipe it off from you.