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Can we use AI bots for seed phrases?
« on: June 03, 2024, 05:19:31 PM »
Currently, Airdrop hunting is at its peak, and everyone is joining them. I also join new and old airdrops regularly. The question here is, when we join new airdrop some of them require us to create a new wallet, and some of the wallets they require is not metamask it is their specific wallet, like some else. And we can't just copy the seed phrases from them we have to write them down manually.

I don't know of any other way to write them down, so what I do is, I take the screenshot and give it to the Edge Copilot and ask him to extract the words from the picture and it extracts the exact same words. Sometimes some wallet's copy system is not good. This means when we click copy seed phrase. It also copies the serial number as 1:Blah 2: Blah.

I don't want these numbers so to save time as in airdrop hunting we need to save time as if we can. I give the 12 or 24 words to the AI bot and ask it to remove these serial numbers and give me the words written side by side. And it do it for me in a matter of seconds.

So the question is,
1.Is it safe to use AI bots to do such things. I mean can they see our 12 phrases. Even if they can see, will they use it. Even if the platform is of Google's, Microsoft, GPTs etc. etc. I mean even if they are worthy enough of our searches,
2.Can hacker could use some types of web scripts that can extract our data from these AI bots.
Out of all the questions,
3.Should I remove the history regularly, and if I don't, can hackers somehow extract the words from the history?

I know its not safe, but I don't really care about these spare wallets which I use for some low quality airdrops. Because the ones which are good, don't require us to use some specific wallet. As we can use any web3 on it. I am still asking if its really possible or really not safe as I am not so sure.
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Can we use AI bots for seed phrases?
« on: June 03, 2024, 05:19:31 PM »

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Re: Can we use AI bots for seed phrases?
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2024, 06:12:20 PM »
I don't know of any other way to write them down, so what I do is, I take the screenshot and give it to the Edge Copilot and ask him to extract the words from the picture and it extracts the exact same words. Sometimes some wallet's copy system is not good. This means when we click copy seed phrase. It also copies the serial number as 1:Blah 2: Blah.

Of course this is risky. Just don't do it.

Write the seed in a piece of paper.

If you are lazy, you can just write it in a txt.file or screenshot and encrypt them.

If you are even lazier (because there is nothing there), just keep them unencrypted .

But I highly recommend a piece of paper.

Never share your seed with AI. Nobody knows how they work, and they might share with other person by accident  (like using your seed as example or whatever
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Re: Can we use AI bots for seed phrases?
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2024, 06:12:20 PM »

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Re: Can we use AI bots for seed phrases?
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2024, 06:37:04 PM »
I don't know of any other way to write them down, so what I do is, I take the screenshot and give it to the Edge Copilot and ask him to extract the words from the picture and it extracts the exact same words.

One malware and that wallet is done for, you have some risky ways of getting and protecting your seeds

Sometimes some wallet's copy system is not good. This means when we click copy seed phrase.

Normally wallets shouldn't allow you to copy the text, this is a way to make sure the user writes it down and does not just go copy past and then drops it from the clipboard by mistake.

I know its not safe, but I don't really care about these spare wallets which I use for some low quality airdrops.

If you don't care about them and you just want to receive something and then dump on an exchange then why be bothered by this aspect alone, someone hacking your account/browser and checking your AI assistant history or anything else would imply the hacker has already got more from you than just that seed.

But seriously, how hard is to delete 24 numbers? How many wallets do you actually generate each day so this would be that time-consuming?


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Re: Can we use AI bots for seed phrases?
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2024, 06:59:47 PM »
~snip~
But seriously, how hard is to delete 24 numbers? How many wallets do you actually generate each day so this would be that time-consuming?


Obviously a lot if you need AI help ;)

I don't know what people will want from AI anymore, but I believe that in a few years the world will be a very strange place where people will communicate less and less with each other, and more and more with AI.

Recently a video of people working on AI went viral when they finally upgraded their AI to literally talk to you in real time - and when Mr.Mars releases his chips for general use then we'll have AI literally in our head so OP will just be able to look at his seed and it will be automatically saved...somewhere...

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Re: Can we use AI bots for seed phrases?
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2024, 07:44:16 PM »
Personally, I do not think that it is safe, as long as the artificial intelligence writes the seed, it can definitely access it through the records, because it is certain that all the data is kept in the background.

The artificial intelligence database can be hacked by some malicious programs, and these programs can also hunt for texts copied into memory, so it would be very dangerous to use this method.

But if, as you say, the airdrops are fake or trivial, I do not think that it would be a big risk since it is not of great importance.

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Re: Can we use AI bots for seed phrases?
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2024, 10:02:37 PM »
Its high time we begin to realized that the use of AI could not be applicable in every aspect of cryptocurrency for our own personal safety and privacy, because these bits we are considering were being developed by people, if we subscribe to anyone, we don't know if they have privacy term bridge that could lead to exposing anything from our information later in future, except if we are only developing one for the use of our own self.

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Re: Can we use AI bots for seed phrases?
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2024, 11:59:15 PM »
I know its not safe, but I don't really care about these spare wallets which I use for some low quality airdrops. Because the ones which are good, don't require us to use some specific wallet. As we can use any web3 on it. I am still asking if its really possible or really not safe as I am not so sure.
First of all, I do not trust AI, which means that I do not hand over my important data such as private keys to AI and accept the risk of losing my crypto assets to hackers or the creators of AI bots.

We only have a few well-known and truly vibrant ecosystems in the market: Bitcoin, Ethereum, Solana, BNB chain, Ton, Avalanche, Cardano, Fantom, Near, Polkadot, Cosmos... I think each airdrop hunter only needs to spend a few minutes to create an account and save the private key to use for dozens of airdrops in the future. I do not participate in airdrops using multi-accounts, so I do not need to use AI for account management purposes. Some multichain wallet applications can provide dozens of accounts on dozens of different blockchains. The only thing users need to do is manage the root account key.
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Re: Can we use AI bots for seed phrases?
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2024, 11:59:15 PM »


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Re: Can we use AI bots for seed phrases?
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2024, 05:47:11 AM »
I know its not safe, but I don't really care about these spare wallets which I use for some low quality airdrops. Because the ones which are good, don't require us to use some specific wallet. As we can use any web3 on it. I am still asking if its really possible or really not safe as I am not so sure.

While I understand your concern that you want to save some time and the hassle of writing for yourself the seed phrases, I fully agree that what you are doing may not really be safe. So the best thing to do is to do it manually, unless there is a proven fast and fast alternative to do so. As always better be safe than sorry. Now, this is one of the things I don't like with airdrops as many of them require you to download their own wallets and you have to register with them individually, not like when an airdrop is just using BSC, ETH or even SOL wallets. Well, anyway, this is one of the things that we must accomplish in order to be a part of an airdrop which we are hoping will be a valuable coin or token into the future.



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Re: Can we use AI bots for seed phrases?
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2024, 11:00:10 AM »

All artificial intelligence algorithms use the data they obtain to improve the efficiency of deep learning. Therefore, once you enter any sensitive data, it is sent to external servers, archived and tried to learn from it.


in other words, do not use that wallet again.
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Re: Can we use AI bots for seed phrases?
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2024, 11:08:26 AM »
AI is not a random number generator. Their outputs are so deterministic that you would actually be safer using an insecure Mersene Twister pseudo RNG for generating the mnemonic words than some robot. Not to mention the fact that other people can see what you generate and so your funds will instantly be wiped out.

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Re: Can we use AI bots for seed phrases?
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2024, 11:50:07 AM »
I don't know of any other way to write them down, so what I do is, I take the screenshot and give it to the Edge Copilot and ask him to extract the words from the picture and it extracts the exact same words. Sometimes some wallet's copy system is not good. This means when we click copy seed phrase. It also copies the serial number as 1:Blah 2: Blah.

You don't need AI to obtain the text from screenshot. Windows built in application called "Snipping Tool" can do that for you. Check this guide, https://allthings.how/how-to-copy-text-from-an-image-using-snipping-tool-on-windows-11/.
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Re: Can we use AI bots for seed phrases?
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2024, 01:02:02 PM »
I believe it is not a safe practice to do so. Extracting your seed phrase with AI or any programmed tool is unsafe because they are all built by developers who have access to  them at anytime.  These bots and extracting tools can be compromised at any point in time revealing details to whom ever decides to exploit them.
It is never a safe idea to use such for writing down your seed phrase irrespective of whether the airdrop is legit or fake as you never can tell what would happen. It is advisable to write them down manually in your safe book or sheet of paper and store them in a safe place where only you have access to. If you you think using AI bot and others are safe why do you think google cloud is not advisable to use on storing such details?  Google cloud is something similar to AI bot as they are all programmed function which means of hacked, details could be extracted from them.
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Re: Can we use AI bots for seed phrases?
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2024, 02:58:40 PM »
AI is not a random number generator. Their outputs are so deterministic that you would actually be safer using an insecure Mersene Twister pseudo RNG for generating the mnemonic words than some robot. Not to mention the fact that other people can see what you generate and so your funds will instantly be wiped out.
Seriously, don't do it.

He's not looking for an AI to determine his seed, he is asking an assistant to remove the numbers before his keywords
Probably his wallet shows him the seed as
1) cow
2) butcher
3) hamburger
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and he wants the 1), 2), 3) .....removed

I don't know what people will want from AI anymore, but I believe that in a few years the world will be a very strange place where people will communicate less and less with each other, and more and more with AI.

In a few years?
https://candy.ai/nsfw-ai-chat ..... ;)





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Re: Can we use AI bots for seed phrases?
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2024, 03:29:31 PM »
            -   The old airdrops, as far as I know, are very different from the current airdrops because, back then, you had to sign up, then just put your wallet address,
and it's okay. Compared to now, that is no longer the case because, in this era, you need to use their platform protocol first.

Then, you still need to make a deposit because this is one of their requirements: they must see that you are performing an activity in their protocol. But it's still tentative if they do airdrops; there's no certainty yet. And there's what you say: if you don't agree with the metamask wallet, I'd rather not participate because there's a high chance that your fund will be in trouble.

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Re: Can we use AI bots for seed phrases?
« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2024, 04:21:13 PM »
I don't know what people will want from AI anymore, but I believe that in a few years the world will be a very strange place where people will communicate less and less with each other, and more and more with AI.
In a few years?
https://candy.ai/nsfw-ai-chat ..... ;)


I know that this is already happening today, but in a few years it will become "normal" behavior that no one will pay attention to anymore. The number of people who spend a lot of time in the virtual world today is certainly very large, but in ten years I would dare to say that 50% of all people will at some point be completely separated from the real world, whether it is virtual reality or something that is not yet invented.
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