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Three Russian Navy ships and a nuclear-powered submarine will arrive at the Port of Havana for an official visit next week, the Cuban armed forces said in a statement Thursday, confirming the military exercises first disclosed by U.S. officials on Wednesday.
The Cuban Revolutionary Armed Forces said the Russian missile frigate Admiral Gorshkov, the nuclear sub Kazan, the oil tanker Pashin and the salvage tug Nikolai Chiker will arrive on June 12 and stay for a week.
this is the kind of gamble that makes this wars more dangerous especially when the wars are not to be fought by infantry anymore but the massive firepower that can wipe out a city in one shot. i'd be surprise if US will not do something since this is happening very close to them.
Is the Cuban Missile Crisis happening once again as Russia about to dock on Cuba's shore?
Will there be war right there and that Russia drags Cuba in this conflict?
sources:
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/cuba/article289062299.html
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/06/06/americas/cuba-russian-ships-submarine-visit-intl-latam/index.html
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Three Russian Navy ships and a nuclear-powered submarine will arrive at the Port of Havana for an official visit next week, the Cuban armed forces said in a statement Thursday, confirming the military exercises first disclosed by U.S. officials on Wednesday.
The Cuban Revolutionary Armed Forces said the Russian missile frigate Admiral Gorshkov, the nuclear sub Kazan, the oil tanker Pashin and the salvage tug Nikolai Chiker will arrive on June 12 and stay for a week.
this is the kind of gamble that makes this wars more dangerous especially when the wars are not to be fought by infantry anymore but the massive firepower that can wipe out a city in one shot. i'd be surprise if US will not do something since this is happening very close to them.
Is the Cuban Missile Crisis happening once again as Russia about to dock on Cuba's shore?
Will there be war right there and that Russia drags Cuba in this conflict?
sources:
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/cuba/article289062299.html
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/06/06/americas/cuba-russian-ships-submarine-visit-intl-latam/index.html
I don't know if I can get the point across correctly in English, but the behavior of the Kremlin gang is that of a “ thug”. In Russian it sounds like “gopnik” and it is not the same as thug, but it is also mean and cowardly.
What is the peculiarity of this behavior ? “Gopnik” as if “tests” the reaction of his “victim”. And the status of “victim” will be obtained only if all his “tests” are successful. So this is what a “gopnik” does: when he meets someone whom he wants to harm, he tries to make a small intimidating step. If the potential “victim” does not fight back and makes concessions, the “gopnik” raises the level of threat and the next “test”.
And so on the spiral, increasing the threat “gopnik” can actually force the “victim” to some actions favorable to the “gopnik”.
BUT ! As soon as the “gopnik” is rebuffed - he cowardly stops his attempts, and usually retreats.
And this we have already seen in the last couple of years. For example, Putin and his gang in 2022 warned the whole West not to help Ukraine, otherwise “nuclear ashes are waiting for you in Europe”. Europe got scared. The U.S. got scared. Ukraine was not afraid, and “gave a kick in the teeth” to the enemy - “gopnik” which surpassed Ukraine in everything ! And Russia had to flee, change its rhetoric, and invent new false “justifications” for its aggression. If you listen to the rhetoric of the Kremlin terrorists - they have already tried many times to “test” the Western world with their scarecrows, first of all with economic terror, and then with nuclear terror. This is exactly the same attempt to “try another test”, since the EU, for example, has responded to economic terror quite harshly, actually refusing gas (a weapon of economic terror) and imposing a huge number of sanctions. Threats to “strike Ukraine and Europe with nuclear weapons”, in case of financial and technical assistance to Ukraine, every week “redrawing ‘red lines’”. This also did not work. Now they are trying to show about the alleged repetition of the Caribbean crisis, without fulfilling any of their previous threats. This is all “shaking their nuclear heads”, trying to frighten the Western world once again, realizing that the prospects of a terrorist war in Ukraine are very negative for Russia.
...Half a year ago, the Kremlin terrorists VOWED to strike the countries whose weapons would be used against Russian-terrorist troops, first on the territory of Ukraine (the threat did not work), and then for the use of weapons of third countries, on the territory of Russia, on the groups of its terrorist troops. As you know - Ukraine has already started destroying bases and groups on Russian territory, which instantly stopped the massive daily shelling of the peaceful city of Kharkov.
Bottom line: this is one of the last “trump cards” of the Kremlin regime, which realizes that its finale will be sad, and may repeat the finale of the Nazi regime. True, these “trump cards” are fake :)
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That could be a threat but port visit is just a normal thing to navies around the world not unless the US intercepts encrypted messages on the oppositions where they are going to start a war on the door steps of nuclear powered America. No one really can afford to go to war with each other right now as we all know they do have internal and external issues they gotta fix. There is this famous phrase I like that says: "Don't start a war if you cannot afford it."
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That could be a threat but port visit is just a normal thing to navies around the world not unless the US intercepts encrypted messages on the oppositions where they are going to start a war on the door steps of nuclear powered America. No one really can afford to go to war with each other right now as we all know they do have internal and external issues they gotta fix. There is this famous phrase I like that says: "Don't start a war if you cannot afford it."
looks like Putin can afford it. he did seized US assets in Russia so that's something and their economy isn't that much of affected since they are not using USD anymore.
i don't see this visit to Cuba as normal since they just declared US as enemy. US been worried about China and all other navies exercising freedom of navigation in South China sea and on Red sea, why would they not worry on Russia fleet just outside their doorstep with nuclear capable sub? some say this is one of the reason why BTC dumped.
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That could be a threat but port visit is just a normal thing to navies around the world not unless the US intercepts encrypted messages on the oppositions where they are going to start a war on the door steps of nuclear powered America. No one really can afford to go to war with each other right now as we all know they do have internal and external issues they gotta fix. There is this famous phrase I like that says: "Don't start a war if you cannot afford it."
looks like Putin can afford it. he did seized US assets in Russia so that's something and their economy isn't that much of affected since they are not using USD anymore.
i don't see this visit to Cuba as normal since they just declared US as enemy. US been worried about China and all other navies exercising freedom of navigation in South China sea and on Red sea, why would they not worry on Russia fleet just outside their doorstep with nuclear capable sub? some say this is one of the reason why BTC dumped.
Tell me - where do you get such, to put it mildly dubious information ? :)
Neither Putin nor the terrorist country of Russia has confiscated any assets. Only a couple of weeks ago “Russian ruler Vladimir Putin issued a decree launching a mechanism of confiscation of US assets, US citizens and residents in exchange for confiscated Russian assets.”, i.e. they just invented a mechanism, not of seizure but of exchange of their assets. But... It should be understood that the balance of assets is not in Russia's favor. Russia, which “fights the West and the dollar”, has been actively exporting its assets stolen by the party of lies and theft. All assets of the Kremlin's top brass are also outside of Russia, and certainly not in North Korea or Iran :)
Name what assets of the west are in russia ? Well, except for a few factories that western companies built in Russia, and a few banks that were not squeamish with dirty money ? :)
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That could be a threat but port visit is just a normal thing to navies around the world not unless the US intercepts encrypted messages on the oppositions where they are going to start a war on the door steps of nuclear powered America. No one really can afford to go to war with each other right now as we all know they do have internal and external issues they gotta fix. There is this famous phrase I like that says: "Don't start a war if you cannot afford it."
looks like Putin can afford it. he did seized US assets in Russia so that's something and their economy isn't that much of affected since they are not using USD anymore.
i don't see this visit to Cuba as normal since they just declared US as enemy. US been worried about China and all other navies exercising freedom of navigation in South China sea and on Red sea, why would they not worry on Russia fleet just outside their doorstep with nuclear capable sub? some say this is one of the reason why BTC dumped.
Trade war is ongoing that is a true disaster for a country's economy and I remember a famous chinese phrase from the art of war that says "Appear weak when you are strong and strong when you are weak." the reason why I am skeptical of war breaking out between the two countries or even with China and North Korea because they already know the consequences and the real war scenario like world war 3 I don't think so because the show of force we usually see on television is most likely just a very effective way to use as an intimidation tool or propaganda but to me personally Russia should atleast end the war against Ukraine because look how small that country is compared to Russia and they can't even finish what they have started I mean no one can really afford to go to war with the US because it is their business, every battleground they are in is their free test grounds for new weapons. That is why no one dares to throw a fight against the US because if one does then they have to expect that their country would be the next battleground. 😅✌️ Though I am not anti Russia I love the Russian people I just don't like the idea of the invasion of Ukraine in short I personally don't like wars because innocent citizens were affected I wish President Putin will just give Ukrainians their independence as there is no winner in wars except for the businessmen who sell weapons.
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surprisingly its not just US who can seize money from every country they wanna sanction. but i guess i just wrote it wrong since its not US assets they seized but the assets of European banks. US seize Russia's assets though.
but now that they are in the coast of Cuba, i guess its not so hard to believe they can do that anymore. quite an aggressive move of Putin. those navy can shoot missiles to US shore.
in military perspective, that's really a threat. in fact, US being the world police can already go to Cuba for this reason.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg66g0neweko
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/06/12/americas/russian-navy-cuba-intl/index.html
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surprisingly its not just US who can seize money from every country they wanna sanction. but i guess i just wrote it wrong since its not US assets they seized but the assets of European banks. US seize Russia's assets though.
but now that they are in the coast of Cuba, i guess its not so hard to believe they can do that anymore. quite an aggressive move of Putin. those navy can shoot missiles to US shore.
in military perspective, that's really a threat. in fact, US being the world police can already go to Cuba for this reason.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg66g0neweko
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/06/12/americas/russian-navy-cuba-intl/index.html
To talk about the “assets of European banks”, you should first remember how many European banks were in Russia before 2022, and what banks remained after 2022. Most of the banks, adhering to the sanctions rules, KIDNAPPED Russia. There are still those banks for whom “money doesn't smell” and who decided to violate international sanctions and try to play the game with the criminal. They were warned, but they made their choice. The final outcome is expected - by building relations with the criminal, you will sooner or later become his victim. So this will be a good lesson for these few banks :)
Russia's assets were frozen absolutely rightfully, in response to Russia's terrorist war in Ukraine and annexation of part of Ukraine's territory. This money will not be taken by the US, this money will be used to rebuild Ukraine, it is punishment of Russia for its crimes, which is quite legal.
And about “Russian exercises” - this is just an ordinary show, and an attempt to “intimidate” the U.S. with a possible escalation.... But this “scary move of Russia” is perfectly described by the folk saying: “scare the hedgehog with your bare ass” :)
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the assets US had seized were treasury bonds that allows Russia to hold USD. because of the seizing of these assets, now all countries are already thinking US may also seized their assets. and so the reason why they are all dedollarizing. the result is that US are now finding it hard to sell these bonds.
i guess the dedollarization is justified too as BRICS nations are all up to it. what Russia seized are Blackrock assets in Ukraine.
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the assets US had seized were treasury bonds that allows Russia to hold USD. because of the seizing of these assets, now all countries are already thinking US may also seized their assets. and so the reason why they are all dedollarizing. the result is that US are now finding it hard to sell these bonds.
i guess the dedollarization is justified too as BRICS nations are all up to it. what Russia seized are Blackrock assets in Ukraine.
Let's go through the chronology:
since 2014, Russia has seized and taken (stolen) . Here is a list of UKRAINIAN assets, not blocked, but primitively stolen:
Luhansk Electromachinery Plant. Status: stolen for scrap metal, part of the equipment exported to Russia
Luhansk Machine-Building Plant (Luhansk Machine-Builder-43) Condition: destroyed, equipment taken to Russia.
Stakhanov Ferroalloy Plant Status: militants' base on the territory. Part of the equipment was taken to Russia, cut into scrap metal and melted down at the Alchevsk Iron and Steel Works;
Stakhanov Carriage Works Status: on the territory of militants' base, the equipment was taken to Russia.
Yasynuvata Machine-Building Plant Status: destroyed, equipment taken to Russia.
Topaz Holding Company Status: fortified area, militants' base, all equipment taken to Russia.
Lutuhyne Research and Production Rolling Plant Status: plant destroyed, equipment taken to Russia.
Luhansk Cartridge Plant Status: terrorists' equipment repair base, deployment point, all equipment taken to Russia.
Machine-building plant "100"[1] Status: 90% of the equipment has been taken to Russia, a militant base.
Yunist plant Krasnodon-Luhansk Status: militants' base, equipment completely removed to Russia.
Luhansk chemical and pharmaceutical plant[2] Status: the plant was destroyed, equipment was taken to Russia.
Luhansk plant of heat engineering equipment[3] Status: the plant was destroyed, the equipment was taken to Russia
Luhansk Automobile Valve Plant[4] Condition: stolen, cut into scrap metal
Luhansk Automobile Radiator Plant Condition: looted, cut into scrap metal
Khartsyzsk Machine-Building Plant Status: plant destroyed, equipment exported to Russia
"LugaTerm Condition: stolen for scrap metal, part of the equipment exported to Russia
Donets State Enterprise is known for its technology for growing crystals for the microelectronics industry. Status: exported to Russia;
Polypak enterprise Status: exported to Russia;
Marshal Plant Status: exported to Russia; the plant has a repair base and artillery parking lot;
Luhansk Pipe Rolling Plant Status: production has been halted, the plant is being cut for scrap metal;
Vtorchermet Plant Status: completely sawn up for scrap;
Bryansk Ore Repair Plant (in the town of Bryanka) Status: completely sawn up for scrap;
Chornukhino traction rolling stock depot (the so-called "car depot") Condition: cut up for scrap metal (including railcars and access roads);
Luhansk Foundry and Mechanical Plant Condition: cut into scrap metal
Rolled metal products plant "ProkatService" Condition: the plant was destroyed and the equipment was taken to Russia.
Autoclave plant Condition: stolen, cut into scrap metal
Luhansk Aircraft Repair Plant Status: taken to Russia.
And this is in addition to looted museums, banks, apartments and homes of Ukrainians....
Do you still think that the actions of the US and EU to block Russia's assets are unfair?
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Luhansk?
its the region where majority of the people are Russian speakers and they even want to join Russia because the Ukrainians are terrorizing them. i bet the list of companies still exist today and the people still works in those companies up to this date.
but this i guess if the NATO is successful in adding Ukraine as part of NATO, its the Russia that will be ruined just as they destroy the countries in the middle east. looted even the ancient remains. and yet were talking fairness? what about iraq and libya and the long list, what fairness?
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Luhansk?
its the region where majority of the people are Russian speakers and they even want to join Russia because the Ukrainians are terrorizing them. i bet the list of companies still exist today and the people still works in those companies up to this date.
but this i guess if the NATO is successful in adding Ukraine as part of NATO, its the Russia that will be ruined just as they destroy the countries in the middle east. looted even the ancient remains. and yet were talking fairness? what about iraq and libya and the long list, what fairness?
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Tell it to me, a citizen of Ukraine, who has seen the invasion and terrorism of Russia since 2014, and in 2022 I had a chance to fight in the south-east and see what the "Russian liberators" are doing .....
Yes, and for information - I live in Kiev, I am Russian by nationality, my native language is Russian. But... THIS IS UKRAINE and this is our Ukraine! In Ukraine there are no problems on national or linguistic grounds. And the use of any language in the population does not speak of the right of another country, where this language is the state language, to seize another country's territory where the language is spoken.
Let's put it this way - if in your house there are neighbors who speak Spanish, for example, does it mean that you have the right to occupy Spain and destroy you, because you do not speak Spanish? So don't broadcast the lies of Russian propaganda.
And at the same time I recommend to read the history of Lugansk and Lugansk region (as well as Donetsk, Zaporozhye, Kherson,...), how in 30-50 years of the last century, there was destroyed the local Ukrainian-speaking population, and forcibly assimilated by natives of depressed regions of the RSFSR (a republic in the USSR, which is now called Russia)!
" its the Russia that will be ruined just as they destroy the countries in the middle east. looted even the ancient remains. and yet were talking fairness? what about iraq and libya and the long list, what fairness?"
1. Rashism (a new kind of Nazism) must be finally destroyed, here I think no one will argue.
2. "destroy the countries in the middle east. looted even the ancient remains. and yet were talking fairness? what about iraq and libya and the long list, what fairness?"
Please give examples of "plundering" of "middle eastern countries" by US hands ? Only so that it can be verified, not propaganda materials :)
Iraq - should I remind you why Hussein's regime was destroyed ?
Libya - Libya itself says that it is Russia that is undermining the war there:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-11-09/tripoli-urges-u-s-to-help-end-war-as-russian-role-grows
And I will also remind Syria - do you want to remember who there sadistically destroys entire cities with thousands of civilians, target bombing hospitals, schools,...? Did you selectively forget about Syria?
PS And about the factories and enterprises stolen from Ukraine - you somehow modestly avoided this topic, as if not noticing. I would like to hear your opinion ? Or is it not an interesting question ? :)
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jesus feel sorry for your country. its already destroyed while the west are just laughing. i don't know if you are aware how the leader of the free world look like.
have you not protested about them still sending weapons to Ukraine? because every time they do that, there are more destruction going on. they been worrying Trump have the rights of the nuke red button yet they don't worry the senile Biden. who doesn't even know where he's at.
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That could be a threat but port visit is just a normal thing to navies around the world not unless the US intercepts encrypted messages on the oppositions where they are going to start a war on the door steps of nuclear powered America. No one really can afford to go to war with each other right now as we all know they do have internal and external issues they gotta fix. There is this famous phrase I like that says: "Don't start a war if you cannot afford it."
But remember that Russia has sanctions mate and visiting with this big ships will send message to international community specially those who are familiar with how Russian attacks Ukraine.
and visiting Cuba that is near US is something the American gets the alarm .
For sure Russian can afford that war but the thing is How long and how big they can run from this? Ukraine is just a small country but up to now Russian forces is still not taking the whole country so what more USA? will they really be able to beat if war started? I doubt then can.
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That could be a threat but port visit is just a normal thing to navies around the world not unless the US intercepts encrypted messages on the oppositions where they are going to start a war on the door steps of nuclear powered America. No one really can afford to go to war with each other right now as we all know they do have internal and external issues they gotta fix. There is this famous phrase I like that says: "Don't start a war if you cannot afford it."
But remember that Russia has sanctions mate and visiting with this big ships will send message to international community specially those who are familiar with how Russian attacks Ukraine.
and visiting Cuba that is near US is something the American gets the alarm .
For sure Russian can afford that war but the thing is How long and how big they can run from this? Ukraine is just a small country but up to now Russian forces is still not taking the whole country so what more USA? will they really be able to beat if war started? I doubt then can.
Well for me media is the only one that is worried about a possible breakout of war and they are use to that even in other countries because media makes things exaggerated. We should also take propagandas into consideration as communist or dictatorial countries used to that for many decades. We all know how tough Russia and it's allies are but how about the US and it's allies? I am not pro or anti here but who do we think has an edge to win this war? We also know that these countries are into arms race since the end of world war 2 through advance technologies and that's where things are getting ugly as they are now proving who is really the super power and that being said their stupid decisions of going to war affects billions of innocent lives accross the world. So I think provocations and agressiveness won't make you a king but instead it will just annoy those who are around you. So I think the best way to do with rival countries here is to stay away from conflict and they should promote peace if they really care for the innocent people.
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it gets worse since US has military base in Cuba which they also dock their ships there while Russia also docks on the other side of Cuba. i guess they are going war in that country and ruin every thing there.
it will might just get scary if they shoot their nukes. Russia can get close to Alaska since they also stationed their military close to Canada. this might just be the first time, war will happen in the continent.
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So, how is going this war on US soil going to happen?
The Russian navy has zero deep sea projection capabilities, they would only have 12 landing ships for that carrying at most 80 tanks and 5000 personnel, with only 3 ocean-ready tankers for that mission and absolutely no way of enforcing any kind of air superiority.
It was a nice post on reddit that mentioned it would take 30 years for the entire Russian navy to deploy all the troops the US sent in the first Gulf War in 3 months.
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jesus feel sorry for your country. its already destroyed while the west are just laughing. i don't know if you are aware how the leader of the free world look like.
have you not protested about them still sending weapons to Ukraine? because every time they do that, there are more destruction going on. they been worrying Trump have the rights of the nuke red button yet they don't worry the senile Biden. who doesn't even know where he's at.
So in your concept - when you or your family is attacked and killed by a criminal .calling the police is foolish - as armed cops can bring more trouble to you and your family !!!! :))) Are you serious !?
From 2014 to today Russia has destroyed and continues to destroy hundreds of Ukrainian towns and villages, the death toll of civilians is in the hundreds of thousands. Cities are simply wiped off the face of the earth, people are persecuted and destroyed .... Destroyed by Russian citizens, by Russian, Iranian, North Korean weapons. Why don't you want to talk about that?
I take it you haven't studied history, you don't know the real picture, but you actively absorb propaganda ? :) It happens !
I will remind you, and perhaps I will make a discovery, but on December 5, 1994 the "Budapest Memorandum" was signed. This is when Ukraine, at the time of the collapse of the USSR, had the world's third largest nuclear weapons capability. In February 2014, Russia violated this treaty and attacked Ukraine, occupying three regions of Ukraine - Crimea, part of Donetsk and part of Lugansk regions. This is an international crime, absolutely similar to Hitler's Germany's attack on Poland in 1939. By the way - together with its partner, the communist USSR.
And everyone understands perfectly well that today we are witnessing an attempt to repeat the scenario of inciting a major world war. Thus the USA and Britain, and also all developed countries - make a lot of efforts for deterrence and repulsion to the aggressor that is their obligations under the Budapest Memorandum.
PS When you are attacked by criminals trying to take your life - will you protest against calling the police, am I right ? :)
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jesus feel sorry for your country. its already destroyed while the west are just laughing. i don't know if you are aware how the leader of the free world look like.
have you not protested about them still sending weapons to Ukraine? because every time they do that, there are more destruction going on. they been worrying Trump have the rights of the nuke red button yet they don't worry the senile Biden. who doesn't even know where he's at.
So in your concept - when you or your family is attacked and killed by a criminal .calling the police is foolish - as armed cops can bring more trouble to you and your family !!!! :))) Are you serious !?
From 2014 to today Russia has destroyed and continues to destroy hundreds of Ukrainian towns and villages, the death toll of civilians is in the hundreds of thousands. Cities are simply wiped off the face of the earth, people are persecuted and destroyed .... Destroyed by Russian citizens, by Russian, Iranian, North Korean weapons. Why don't you want to talk about that?
I take it you haven't studied history, you don't know the real picture, but you actively absorb propaganda ? :) It happens !
I will remind you, and perhaps I will make a discovery, but on December 5, 1994 the "Budapest Memorandum" was signed. This is when Ukraine, at the time of the collapse of the USSR, had the world's third largest nuclear weapons capability. In February 2014, Russia violated this treaty and attacked Ukraine, occupying three regions of Ukraine - Crimea, part of Donetsk and part of Lugansk regions. This is an international crime, absolutely similar to Hitler's Germany's attack on Poland in 1939. By the way - together with its partner, the communist USSR.
And everyone understands perfectly well that today we are witnessing an attempt to repeat the scenario of inciting a major world war. Thus the USA and Britain, and also all developed countries - make a lot of efforts for deterrence and repulsion to the aggressor that is their obligations under the Budapest Memorandum.
PS When you are attacked by criminals trying to take your life - will you protest against calling the police, am I right ? :)
what police are you talking about? we are trying to stop the war. that's the point.
the Ukraine president, he is not even the president right now since he just cancel election. but ye watever. regardless of what Russia took and what Ukraine has left, would you rather let the country stay or be taken every thing by Russia?
because to me it make sense to just stop the war. and may wait til Putin dies. and then militarize Ukraine again and battle with a good chance of winning. but if the country continues the war today, its already going to be a complete pile of rubles especially if they continue to accept funds and weapons from NATO. i don't think there is more logical than that. EVEN US backs out of Afghanistan. maybe they'd be back later. who knows.
for now, its a stalemate. Russia in the coast of US, Nokor with Russia bands together, its going to be aggressive if Ukraine fires to hit Moscow.
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jesus feel sorry for your country. its already destroyed while the west are just laughing. i don't know if you are aware how the leader of the free world look like.
have you not protested about them still sending weapons to Ukraine? because every time they do that, there are more destruction going on. they been worrying Trump have the rights of the nuke red button yet they don't worry the senile Biden. who doesn't even know where he's at.
So in your concept - when you or your family is attacked and killed by a criminal .calling the police is foolish - as armed cops can bring more trouble to you and your family !!!! :))) Are you serious !?
From 2014 to today Russia has destroyed and continues to destroy hundreds of Ukrainian towns and villages, the death toll of civilians is in the hundreds of thousands. Cities are simply wiped off the face of the earth, people are persecuted and destroyed .... Destroyed by Russian citizens, by Russian, Iranian, North Korean weapons. Why don't you want to talk about that?
I take it you haven't studied history, you don't know the real picture, but you actively absorb propaganda ? :) It happens !
I will remind you, and perhaps I will make a discovery, but on December 5, 1994 the "Budapest Memorandum" was signed. This is when Ukraine, at the time of the collapse of the USSR, had the world's third largest nuclear weapons capability. In February 2014, Russia violated this treaty and attacked Ukraine, occupying three regions of Ukraine - Crimea, part of Donetsk and part of Lugansk regions. This is an international crime, absolutely similar to Hitler's Germany's attack on Poland in 1939. By the way - together with its partner, the communist USSR.
And everyone understands perfectly well that today we are witnessing an attempt to repeat the scenario of inciting a major world war. Thus the USA and Britain, and also all developed countries - make a lot of efforts for deterrence and repulsion to the aggressor that is their obligations under the Budapest Memorandum.
PS When you are attacked by criminals trying to take your life - will you protest against calling the police, am I right ? :)
what police are you talking about? we are trying to stop the war. that's the point.
the Ukraine president, he is not even the president right now since he just cancel election. but ye watever. regardless of what Russia took and what Ukraine has left, would you rather let the country stay or be taken every thing by Russia?
because to me it make sense to just stop the war. and may wait til Putin dies. and then militarize Ukraine again and battle with a good chance of winning. but if the country continues the war today, its already going to be a complete pile of rubles especially if they continue to accept funds and weapons from NATO. i don't think there is more logical than that. EVEN US backs out of Afghanistan. maybe they'd be back later. who knows.
for now, its a stalemate. Russia in the coast of US, Nokor with Russia bands together, its going to be aggressive if Ukraine fires to hit Moscow.
Let me tell you, as a direct participant of the event, how it all looks like in reality. But let's start with this - let's say a person is stricken with cancer. And one doctor says - here we need an active position, we need chemotherapy, active influence to destroy cancer cells. The second doctor says - no, we should not do that, any therapy will damage the body, medicine is evil, we need to agree with the cancerous tumor, it will listen to us and will not destroy the body.
So the "Russian world" is a cancerous tumor. And Putin and his whole gang OPENly speaks about the goals - to DESTROY Ukraine, to DESTROY the population of Ukraine, to occupy and create again "USSR-2". And he will stop at nothing - neither millions of lives, nor the use of prohibited weapons (I personally watched the shelling with incendiary phosphorus shells), nor against global terrorism around the world. And since 2014 it is Russia that has been threatening the whole world with nuclear weapons. In the fight against cancer, the only way out is to destroy the disease, no other options work. This is what the whole progressive world is helping Ukraine to do - to get rid of the cancerous tumor of Rashism, which has already destroyed about 20% of the territory.
I will not wish you, as I hope you will realize the stupidity of your assumptions and position, and it will pass before your country or family will not suffer such a disaster, and you will be told - no, the aggressor and maniac should not be destroyed or detained, talk to him, give him a tasty treat, give him something useful, maybe he will stop killing you....
Ukraine has already shown its will to win by defeating in 2022 the grouping of the "second army of the world" in the south and Kharkiv region. Let us destroy the remnants of the occupiers, saving the world from the new brown plague of the 21st century - Rashism.
Russian troughs can float anywhere. They tried to intimidate the West in the last century. Remind me - where did the "great USSR" go? :)))
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^ its good in the news and the liberal audience but in reality, the country is losing regions. they just have to be grateful that Putin has no plans to actually conquer them all.
we studied history even when in high school we just knew too much of what the chief colonizer had done. they are doing it to your country and you just think its the other way. good luck.
but ye the WEF is taking over NATO though so its going to be the wealthiest of WEF aka NATO vs BRICS. PM Mark Rutte the best friends of Klause Schawb who wants all people to eat bugs and lab meat of Bill Gates is now the head of NATO.
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The largest country in the world by a factor of 2 to 1 is looking to get bigger.
Now I remind all those that favor this happening of the school bombing done a few years back .
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39586814
So By expanding into more land Russia will simply be inviting terrorists to attack them for revenge.
Does not matter much as Trump is going to win and anything we have seen in the last 10 years will seem mild to the destruction coming to us all.
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The largest country in the world by a factor of 2 to 1 is looking to get bigger.
Now I remind all those that favor this happening of the school bombing done a few years back .
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39586814
So By expanding into more land Russia will simply be inviting terrorists to attack them for revenge.
Does not matter much as Trump is going to win and anything we have seen in the last 10 years will seem mild to the destruction coming to us all.
To understand that Russia is an international terrorist country, it is enough to read the "works" of the ideologists of world terrorism, for example, Colonel General Alexander Sakharovsky, who for 15 years headed the Soviet foreign intelligence - the First Main Directorate of the KGB: "In today's world, when the nuclear bomb has made the use of military force obsolete, terrorism must become our main weapon.
And then, in 1999, terrorism began to be used by Russia against its own citizens, for example to bring today's international criminal Putin to power. In 1999, the same FSB blew up several apartment buildings in Russia, killing hundreds of its citizens, just to justify a terrorist operation against the independent republic of Ichkeria, and to gain the right to build the power of the security agencies.
So the crime in the story you describe is just one of many cases of state terrorism by the Kremlin authorities. That's why I say - Russia (spread under the "brand" - "Russian world") is a cancerous tumor of our world, and as long as today's power and ideology of Rashism will live - the world will be in a state of chaos and global terrorism. Moreover, no matter how some participants "hovering in the clouds of their fantasies" do not say that the war should be stopped, their "favorite" Putin openly says - we will seize Ukraine, then there will be the Baltic States, and then we will organize terror in Europe and the whole world - everyone should be afraid of us, we will force everyone to fulfill our wishes. And there will be any methods - terrorism, nuclear weapons, killing of peaceful citizens, ..... And the show in Cuba is an attempt to intimidate the civilized world.
PS But Russia is in its own style as always :) The "unparalleled submarine, which the USA and all NATO is afraid of", has shown the reality - its plating started to fall off during an ordinary crossing :)))) The photo can be easily found on the Internet
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This are war games, in millitary terms it will serve as deterrence. The Russian forces wants the US to understand how powerful and combat ready the Russian forces are and can be.
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This are war games, in millitary terms it will serve as deterrence. The Russian forces wants the US to understand how powerful and combat ready the Russian forces are and can be.
Arranging a fake show “the second army of the world”, which some people perceive as reality, we should not forget that the “second army of the world”, armed exclusively with weapons “unparalleled in the world”, allegedly having “a stable economy and a powerful military-industrial complex”, 3 years can not achieve any success in the terrorist war launched against Ukraine, while in 2024 lost even part of its territories in the Kursk People's Republic. And this is provided that the West does not provide the AFU with the necessary amount of weapons, and does not provide weapons that could create parity against Russian terrorist forces. Question - how can this fake country with a fake second army of the world effectively fight against the USA?! Are you serious !?
PS A perfect example:
2021. The Russian army (terrorist) will be provided with unparalleled Armata tanks and the latest weapons.
2024. The Russian army (terrorist) starts using quad bikes, motorcycles, mopeds, bicycles and other “civilian” means of transportation due to the lack of armored vehicles and rolling stock.
2025. The Russian army (terrorist) on the front lines started to use donkeys as road vehicles ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
All the described facts are very easy to check !
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This are war games, in millitary terms it will serve as deterrence. The Russian forces wants the US to understand how powerful and combat ready the Russian forces are and can be.
Arranging a fake show “the second army of the world”, which some people perceive as reality, we should not forget that the “second army of the world”, armed exclusively with weapons “unparalleled in the world”, allegedly having “a stable economy and a powerful military-industrial complex”, 3 years can not achieve any success in the terrorist war launched against Ukraine, while in 2024 lost even part of its territories in the Kursk People's Republic. And this is provided that the West does not provide the AFU with the necessary amount of weapons, and does not provide weapons that could create parity against Russian terrorist forces. Question - how can this fake country with a fake second army of the world effectively fight against the USA?! Are you serious !?
PS A perfect example:
2021. The Russian army (terrorist) will be provided with unparalleled Armata tanks and the latest weapons.
2024. The Russian army (terrorist) starts using quad bikes, motorcycles, mopeds, bicycles and other “civilian” means of transportation due to the lack of armored vehicles and rolling stock.
2025. The Russian army (terrorist) on the front lines started to use donkeys as road vehicles ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
All the described facts are very easy to check !
that is not what this former Army Colonel is saying about this. you can believe what you wanted to believe but the other side will also believe what they want to believe. history are always told by whoever won the battle and small countries are often just the collateral damage in a fight between power houses.
but then anyway, there is no war happening all because Russia visited Cuba. but it looks like they really didn't do something out of it.
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I think everything happening is in preparation of the next world war that these world powers countries which has a strong military base is preparing for and with the way things are going it will not be long before a full scale war will break out in the world because the world has been strongly dividing into two and that is the United States and it's allies and Russia and their allies too so the future of the world is getting more uncertain as the days go by because looking at the way and manner that these countries are investing into defense and military equipments acquisition
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because the world has been strongly dividing into two and that is the United States and it's allies and Russia and their allies too
Russia and....what allies? Iran and Syria (oh wait).
Russia hasn't been able to conquer Ukraine which is next door to them, and you think they can threaten the US on American soil?
With what navy? The one sunk in the black sea or the coal-powered aircraft carrier that is scrap metal?
The donkey army?
https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-war-russia-donkeys-military-transport-ammo-logistics-2025-2?international=true&r=US&IR=T
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the world has been strongly dividing into two and that is the United States and it's allies and Russia and their allies too so the future of the world is getting more uncertain
during the world war two, usa and the soviet union were allies but only because they had one common enemy i wonder if the same thing might happen this year maybe their shared enemy could be china either way if a war to ever break out again the world would be so divided and the destruction would be a lot stronger than it was in previous wars
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the world has been strongly dividing into two and that is the United States and it's allies and Russia and their allies too so the future of the world is getting more uncertain
during the world war two, usa and the soviet union were allies but only because they had one common enemy i wonder if the same thing might happen this year maybe their shared enemy could be china either way if a war to ever break out again the world would be so divided and the destruction would be a lot stronger than it was in previous wars
I agree with you kabayan, the next world war will be far more destructive than ever before and former allies might become enemies this time and previous enemies will become someone's present ally. Current weapons and militaries were far more powerful than before so I am not sure if we can really survive the wrath of greediness.
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Current weapons and militaries were far more powerful than before so I am not sure if we can really survive the wrath of greediness.
War and crisis are not something anyone should wish for. People who expect and wish for war are those who have not seen war or had any experience concerning how devastating the times of war could be. I totally agree that the next World War will be too deadly and should be totally avoided because of the sophistication of weapons that each country possesses currently. Lives and properties will be lost, and cities will be made uninhabitable.
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the world has been strongly dividing into two and that is the United States and it's allies and Russia and their allies too so the future of the world is getting more uncertain
during the world war two, usa and the soviet union were allies but only because they had one common enemy i wonder if the same thing might happen this year maybe their shared enemy could be china either way if a war to ever break out again the world would be so divided and the destruction would be a lot stronger than it was in previous wars
You voiced a part of history, taking it out of the overall context of WWII.
Prior to 1041, the USSR was allied with.... Nazi Germany, starting in 1939 by starting a war in Europe - attacking Poland, Finland, invading Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia...
And when the “friends” (the USSR and Hitler's Germany) quarreled, then the USSR started squealing and asking for help from the US, Britain and other countries. After which they became “allies” with those who helped them save themselves from yesterday's “friends”