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Title: foreseeing a plunge of price, what would you do?
Post by: electronicash on June 21, 2024, 11:17:04 PM

let says you have just bought today because the price already dip down to $63k a few hours ago and then a post somewhere like this topic says that price may dump more down to $40k.

(https://i.imgur.com/oBzV0LT.png)

maybe the price has to dip that low in order for the market to have a good momentum in the next bull run, would you dump your coins and wait for the dump to buy at $40k on spot or would you rather go shorting on futures?
Title: Re: foreseeing a plunge of price, what would you do?
Post by: Rruchi man on June 21, 2024, 11:23:58 PM

let says you have just bought today because the price already dip down to $63k
Someone who just bought cryptocurrency like bitcoin today and already experiencing a dip in price is fairly inexperienced, and has a higher chance of responding to their emotions to sell.

 More experienced investors know patience in the market and have better mastered their emotions. They know market behaviour and understand that the market dips and will also peak, it all just in a matter of time. Rather than selling, change to a stable coin and wait for the market.
Title: Re: foreseeing a plunge of price, what would you do?
Post by: electronicash on June 21, 2024, 11:37:15 PM

let says you have just bought today because the price already dip down to $63k
Someone who just bought cryptocurrency like bitcoin today and already experiencing a dip in price is fairly inexperienced, and has a higher chance of responding to their emotions to sell.

 More experienced investors know patience in the market and have better mastered their emotions. They know market behaviour and understand that the market dips and will also peak, it all just in a matter of time. Rather than selling, change to a stable coin and wait for the market.

this is exactly option one.
dump/trade them to usdt and buy $40k. the one thing that is wasted however is that this is an opportunity to make money in the future market when you short.

say someone like you whose been a seasoned trader already and then got the info about the possible dump and you analyzed it and confirmed to be a right signal.  you still be on spot?
Title: Re: foreseeing a plunge of price, what would you do?
Post by: akeemqaz on June 22, 2024, 01:02:56 AM
If Bitcoin drop to 40k, I'm buying more on spot market. I cant short because I don't expect Bitcoin to go below $59k because of the buying pressure surrounding it. Although your analysis looks realistic, this is crypto. There are different factors that determine price movements.
Title: Re: foreseeing a plunge of price, what would you do?
Post by: jeraldskie11 on June 22, 2024, 06:03:31 PM
Personally, I will not sell my assets just because of a seeing a thread somewhere saying that the price will go deeper. I believe that no one can predict the price and it's too far to be able to analyze what will happen next to the price of Bitcoin. But if ever the price comes to that price I will only keep buying everytime the price goes deeper, and it's what we called DCA.
Title: Re: foreseeing a plunge of price, what would you do?
Post by: Jamal Aezaz on June 22, 2024, 07:33:12 PM
I think if someone buys Bitcoin at a certain price then he should not regret it when the price goes down because there is a solution to it which is to increase your target of selling and your target always depends on your buying price. If you have bought Bitcoin at 63k$ and suddenly it reduces to 40k$ then there is nothing to worry about because you can invest more at the cost of 40k$ and continue your investment until your target gets completed.

We should not wait for a specific value to buy bitcoin because we don't know when it will happen so we can miss  many chances of making money therefore it will be useful if someone buys Bitcoin when his accumulation of money gets completed.
Title: Re: foreseeing a plunge of price, what would you do?
Post by: milewilda on June 22, 2024, 07:54:16 PM
Personally, I will not sell my assets just because of a seeing a thread somewhere saying that the price will go deeper. I believe that no one can predict the price and it's too far to be able to analyze what will happen next to the price of Bitcoin. But if ever the price comes to that price I will only keep buying everytime the price goes deeper, and it's what we called DCA.
It would be better to be observant rather than on making  yourself to be a believer but it isnt really that bad to make yourself having those kind of approach that you might considering on applying into your own analysis. Yes, there's no one would really be able to predict the future and this is why it would really be tons of speculations and predictions that would really be flying around.
It would really be just that depending on you whether you would really be that applying into your own or would be sticking with your own.
Title: Re: foreseeing a plunge of price, what would you do?
Post by: yhiaali3 on June 22, 2024, 10:42:47 PM
Although I do not think - As I hope - that the price will not fall to 40K$, but it is a possibility. In such a case, if I am sure that the price will fall, I prefer to sell at the current price in the spot market and then wait for the decline in order to buy at a lower price.

I do not prefer short selling in futures because I simply do not like trading futures because I think it is too risky so I prefer to sell spot and wait for the drop to buy from below.
Title: Re: foreseeing a plunge of price, what would you do?
Post by: electronicash on June 24, 2024, 10:30:27 PM
Although I do not think - As I hope - that the price will not fall to 40K$, but it is a possibility. In such a case, if I am sure that the price will fall, I prefer to sell at the current price in the spot market and then wait for the decline in order to buy at a lower price.

I do not prefer short selling in futures because I simply do not like trading futures because I think it is too risky so I prefer to sell spot and wait for the drop to buy from below.

if i have to make it sound moderately maybe around $51k. that's sort of a drop for the market to be oversold. its doesn't sound so bad if you have sold recently when the signal was received. the sentiment change will probably make people panic imo, which means those guys will keep dumping to minimize the loss if it really goers to worse.

for the few of saw the price dive coming and switched to futures, it must be worth satisfying. 

German government dumps 50, 000 BTC and MtGox users to receive 143,000 BTC which are likely to be sold cheaper.
i can only assume German government is about to buy back the coins the Mtgoxc users are going to sell for cheap price.
Title: Re: foreseeing a plunge of price, what would you do?
Post by: SamReomo on June 24, 2024, 11:07:10 PM
Bitcoin dumped very badly the last week and it's still below $60k if those who opened a short position after reading your post then they would have made some good profits from it. I'm not sure that Bitcoin will face another dump or not but surely those who have proper knowledge about some altcoins can make some profits by buying those altcoins cheaper due to Bitcoin's recent DIP.
Title: Re: foreseeing a plunge of price, what would you do?
Post by: Zed0X on June 24, 2024, 11:41:34 PM
It's interesting to see the chart from Coingecko showing that the market cap continues to fall in the last 24H while the trading volume is going up. Are we likely to see a little reversal soon?

I think $40K is too low but, hey, we've seen dumps like that before.
Title: Re: foreseeing a plunge of price, what would you do?
Post by: MrSpasybo on June 25, 2024, 12:14:43 AM
It's interesting to see the chart from Coingecko showing that the market cap continues to fall in the last 24H while the trading volume is going up. Are we likely to see a little reversal soon?

I think $40K is too low but, hey, we've seen dumps like that before.
We might be witnessing a BTC price manipulation event to allow whales to accumulate more tokens before the bullrun. The high trading volume indicates that there are always investors willing to buy tokens at the current price zone. As you suggested: we might be about to see a trend change: from re-accumulation to growth.

I also don't think BTC can retest the $40K zone even though it's the Fibo 0.382. If this happens, I'm afraid many ALTS will have new lows and the market will be plunged into fear. I hope we will see a market breakout after ETH Spot ETFs are officially traded!

(https://www.tradingview.com/x/tiMQZqos/)
Title: Re: foreseeing a plunge of price, what would you do?
Post by: yhiaali3 on June 25, 2024, 04:25:44 AM
if i have to make it sound moderately maybe around $51k. that's sort of a drop for the market to be oversold. its doesn't sound so bad if you have sold recently when the signal was received. the sentiment change will probably make people panic imo, which means those guys will keep dumping to minimize the loss if it really goers to worse.
Yes, 50-51 thousand dollars seems acceptable. Yesterday, Bitcoin fell to 58 thousand, so it is a very possible scenario for it to fall to 50 K, since we are now in the fifties area.

Many people will now start to panic and abandon Bitcoin due to their lack of experience and impatience. They will leave their precious Bitcoin to be eaten by whales, and then they will regret it later because they do not know that a major correction is followed by a major rise.
Title: Re: foreseeing a plunge of price, what would you do?
Post by: LogitechMouse on June 25, 2024, 06:58:46 AM

let says you have just bought today because the price already dip down to $63k a few hours ago and then a post somewhere like this topic says that price may dump more down to $40k.
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maybe the price has to dip that low in order for the market to have a good momentum in the next bull run, would you dump your coins and wait for the dump to buy at $40k on spot or would you rather go shorting on futures?
Neither of the two. :)
Panic selling is not in my vocabulary, and futures trading isn't my thing as well.

I will not dump my coins and instead, I will buy more if that happens. I will not do shorting on futures as well because instead of making money, I might lose even more if I do it. TBH, I'm a bit surprised with how the market is moving right now, but just a few hours ago, it seems like the market is starting to go up again after that massive selling pressure. For me, it's a good time to buy not only Bitcoin, but other altcoins as well. :)
Title: Re: foreseeing a plunge of price, what would you do?
Post by: Husires on June 25, 2024, 12:06:31 PM
dump more down to $40k currently seems far away as the Fibonacci retrenchment level is at $56,213 and both the RSI and AO are below levels of 50 and zero.
Therefore, if the current price levels are broken, the price will rebound before it reaches $56,213, and if that happens, it still needs a lot to see $40k.
I see that the worst has already happened and we will be at these levels until the end of this month.

(https://i.postimg.cc/tC1B9VXK/image.png)
Title: Re: foreseeing a plunge of price, what would you do?
Post by: Crwth on June 25, 2024, 12:12:32 PM
If I predicted that the market is going down, I believe that it should be shorted. I don't want to short BTC too much but it's an opportunity to make money so I just need to make sure that I manage the risk.

I have an outlook of BTC to be increasing in price in the long term so that's the reason I don't want to short too much.
Title: Re: foreseeing a plunge of price, what would you do?
Post by: milewilda on June 25, 2024, 06:45:26 PM
If I predicted that the market is going down, I believe that it should be shorted. I don't want to short BTC too much but it's an opportunity to make money so I just need to make sure that I manage the risk.

I have an outlook of BTC to be increasing in price in the long term so that's the reason I don't want to short too much.
For those who do like or want to see short term profits then if ever they would really be seeing those opportunity or chances for them neither to make long or short positions then they
would really be doing it. Yes, there's no way that we could be able to predict on where market would be going on which we know that when it comes to predictability
then there's no trader or investor would really be having that future sight on what would happen. Indicators arent that 100% precise but of course it would be something
that will really be that giving out that at least on where prices could potentially go.
Title: Re: foreseeing a plunge of price, what would you do?
Post by: electronicash on June 25, 2024, 08:20:26 PM
If I predicted that the market is going down, I believe that it should be shorted. I don't want to short BTC too much but it's an opportunity to make money so I just need to make sure that I manage the risk.

I have an outlook of BTC to be increasing in price in the long term so that's the reason I don't want to short too much.
For those who do like or want to see short term profits then if ever they would really be seeing those opportunity or chances for them neither to make long or short positions then they
would really be doing it. Yes, there's no way that we could be able to predict on where market would be going on which we know that when it comes to predictability
then there's no trader or investor would really be having that future sight on what would happen. Indicators arent that 100% precise but of course it would be something
that will really be that giving out that at least on where prices could potentially go.

when opportunity knocks, its hard to resist when they now they can make money out of this crisis. now that they see panic due to the German government depositing large quantity of BTC on exchanges, it may really be a reason that institutions are also driving price down as they also be shorting in the futures market.

they are not predicting the price anymore but manipulating in their favor.  as long as they could squeeze profit from the futures market, its an opportunity. the spot traders are also going to be doing the same as part of their accumulation.

Title: Re: foreseeing a plunge of price, what would you do?
Post by: Charles-Tim on June 25, 2024, 08:39:18 PM
maybe the price has to dip that low in order for the market to have a good momentum in the next bull run, would you dump your coins and wait for the dump to buy at $40k on spot or would you rather go shorting on futures?
The bull run is not yet over but just that the bull run can not just continue without some bear periods dominating market. If bitcoin continues to fall and I have enough money to DCA, I will continue with DCA. But I am wondering why this topic was not created in the bitcoin board because this is trading discussion board. Traders may have different strategies because they prefer to take the best advantage at the shortest time if possible, unlike holders.
Title: Re: foreseeing a plunge of price, what would you do?
Post by: Captain Corporate on June 25, 2024, 09:21:11 PM
Lol, I would continue to buy more, and more and more. I get that it may not feel like that at times, but I also think that DCA is by far the best method and I think even if you "think" price will fall, that doesn't mean it will, it just a speculation like any other person would. You "foresee" the price dropping, but that doesn't mean that we are going to end up with anything at all, it just means that we are going to end up with anything, could be down or could be up. I think the best in that situation is still buying, and if it falls like you imagined, then you can keep buying more and more until it doesn't go down anymore.
Title: Re: foreseeing a plunge of price, what would you do?
Post by: SmartGold01 on June 25, 2024, 10:19:39 PM
Now this question is a simultaneous questions and this how I would love to answer them, currently i do more better on spot trading than future. For spot trading I won't dump my coin to go buy at 40k dip instead I will buy more when dip instead to go waste my resources. For about future trading I will go for long periods trade where to enter on the opposite till it gets to 40k but require enough equity to cover up the long trade but usually 40k could be hard to achieve instead I close it on 60k mark.
Title: Re: foreseeing a plunge of price, what would you do?
Post by: milewilda on July 01, 2024, 09:32:29 PM
If I predicted that the market is going down, I believe that it should be shorted. I don't want to short BTC too much but it's an opportunity to make money so I just need to make sure that I manage the risk.

I have an outlook of BTC to be increasing in price in the long term so that's the reason I don't want to short too much.
For those who do like or want to see short term profits then if ever they would really be seeing those opportunity or chances for them neither to make long or short positions then they
would really be doing it. Yes, there's no way that we could be able to predict on where market would be going on which we know that when it comes to predictability
then there's no trader or investor would really be having that future sight on what would happen. Indicators arent that 100% precise but of course it would be something
that will really be that giving out that at least on where prices could potentially go.

when opportunity knocks, its hard to resist when they now they can make money out of this crisis. now that they see panic due to the German government depositing large quantity of BTC on exchanges, it may really be a reason that institutions are also driving price down as they also be shorting in the futures market.

they are not predicting the price anymore but manipulating in their favor.  as long as they could squeeze profit from the futures market, its an opportunity. the spot traders are also going to be doing the same as part of their accumulation.
We do know that when institutions do really tend to make that involvement and since they do have that financial capacity on doing so then its not really that something new anymore that they will really be always having that advantage if we do speak about financial aspects on which means that manipulation could really be that possible, but somehow crypto market cant really be that easily be manipulated which is unlike into those traditional markets like forex and stocks on which they would really be having that kind of advantage. This is why
making yourself wise in terms of grabbing opportunities on the moment that you do see about good entries.
Title: Re: foreseeing a plunge of price, what would you do?
Post by: taufik123 on July 02, 2024, 09:39:56 PM
An excellent opportunity when the dump can get to $40k and so the price of the Dip is awaited.
I'm going to start buying and filling my bag with Bitcoin and some of the top altcoins that are certainly very affected by the bitcoin dump.

Leaving money on reserve will be very useful when the dump can reach $40k, it is still in the $60k price area and still at a good price to buy before the $100k ATH is reached.
Title: Re: foreseeing a plunge of price, what would you do?
Post by: Vx1 on July 03, 2024, 07:37:34 PM
An excellent opportunity when the dump can get to $40k and so the price of the Dip is awaited.
I'm going to start buying and filling my bag with Bitcoin and some of the top altcoins that are certainly very affected by the bitcoin dump.

Leaving money on reserve will be very useful when the dump can reach $40k, it is still in the $60k price area and still at a good price to buy before the $100k ATH is reached.
If we believe the price will fall, then it is very appropriate if we have to collect ammunition to increase the load again.  Because if we have the opportunity to buy coins at the lowest price, our potential for profit will be very large.  And I believe, this is what all crypto traders and investors are waiting for the most.
Title: Re: foreseeing a plunge of price, what would you do?
Post by: electronicash on July 03, 2024, 08:44:16 PM
An excellent opportunity when the dump can get to $40k and so the price of the Dip is awaited.
I'm going to start buying and filling my bag with Bitcoin and some of the top altcoins that are certainly very affected by the bitcoin dump.

Leaving money on reserve will be very useful when the dump can reach $40k, it is still in the $60k price area and still at a good price to buy before the $100k ATH is reached.
If we believe the price will fall, then it is very appropriate if we have to collect ammunition to increase the load again.  Because if we have the opportunity to buy coins at the lowest price, our potential for profit will be very large.  And I believe, this is what all crypto traders and investors are waiting for the most.

we don't really know the bottom though. its why most  investors are just DCAing because they as well regardless of how long they are in crypto and trading, they may still misunderstood the signals that indicators say to them. its always just our own interpretation.

there are several support lines where the market will likely bounce such as in the $56k and also in the $52k. so don't give too much weight on that $40k bottom.  the price may even just go sideways from now on and will bounce eventually when the supply run low.

Title: Re: foreseeing a plunge of price, what would you do?
Post by: pieppiep on July 04, 2024, 04:44:04 PM
An excellent opportunity when the dump can get to $40k and so the price of the Dip is awaited.
I'm going to start buying and filling my bag with Bitcoin and some of the top altcoins that are certainly very affected by the bitcoin dump.

Leaving money on reserve will be very useful when the dump can reach $40k, it is still in the $60k price area and still at a good price to buy before the $100k ATH is reached.
If we believe the price will fall, then it is very appropriate if we have to collect ammunition to increase the load again.  Because if we have the opportunity to buy coins at the lowest price, our potential for profit will be very large.  And I believe, this is what all crypto traders and investors are waiting for the most.

we don't really know the bottom though. its why most  investors are just DCAing because they as well regardless of how long they are in crypto and trading, they may still misunderstood the signals that indicators say to them. its always just our own interpretation.

there are several support lines where the market will likely bounce such as in the $56k and also in the $52k. so don't give too much weight on that $40k bottom.  the price may even just go sideways from now on and will bounce eventually when the supply run low.
There is no guarantee that the Bitcoin price will bounce again as you mentioned. So far it has entered the bearish season where the Bitcoin price should be able to fall again and start its journey to $20k again like the peak of the last bearish season. When you see market conditions like this, many traders will feel depressed. Bitcoin prices can soar high again after entering the halving season in the next 4 years because usually Bitcoin prices will soar high when an event like that approaches.
Title: Re: foreseeing a plunge of price, what would you do?
Post by: milewilda on July 04, 2024, 05:27:26 PM
So now, the plunge did happen and there could really be that possible hit on reaching out that $42k floor. Yes, its too deep but it could be possible.
One of the hardest thing to consider and knows on whats the actual reason behind these movements? We dont have any sentiments around
on which it would justify the drop. This is why to those who are really that eyeing for drops then this would really be the sweet spot to get in.
Title: Re: foreseeing a plunge of price, what would you do?
Post by: Vx1 on July 04, 2024, 06:43:02 PM
So now, the plunge did happen and there could really be that possible hit on reaching out that $42k floor. Yes, its too deep but it could be possible.
One of the hardest thing to consider and knows on whats the actual reason behind these movements? We dont have any sentiments around
on which it would justify the drop. This is why to those who are really that eyeing for drops then this would really be the sweet spot to get in.
Bitcoin prices have been falling for several days, but it seems difficult to reach this price.  If I am optimistic and predict prices will rise soon, before finally falling again. 
Because this incident often repeats itself, when the price of Bitcoin goes down for a few days, it usually goes up again. 
I can't predict how much this increase will occur, but if you believe me you can buy Bitcoin now.
Title: Re: foreseeing a plunge of price, what would you do?
Post by: taufik123 on July 04, 2024, 08:26:27 PM
If we believe the price will fall, then it is very appropriate if we have to collect ammunition to increase the load again.  Because if we have the opportunity to buy coins at the lowest price, our potential for profit will be very large.  And I believe, this is what all crypto traders and investors are waiting for the most.
It was highly anticipated and now Bitcoin is starting to fall at the price of $60k and is now in the $56k price area.
This is a fairly deep decline, and the possibility of even lower could occur.

(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/07/04/oTKT5.jpeg)

From the TA side: not good.
- There is a potential for a double top on the weekly candle 🚩
- The closest support is at 56k, if it breaks we will go to $52k, and it is likely that the feeling will break. (Feeling blum is certainly right)
- German Gov has not finished selling 🚩
- Justin Sun wants to take over all of Germany's Bitcoin gov

Conclusion: in the short term, there is no positive narrative u/ reversal of Bitcoin. 

In the long term, Bitcoin remains at $100,000

Solution: expand your timeframe
Title: Re: foreseeing a plunge of price, what would you do?
Post by: electronicash on July 04, 2024, 09:33:08 PM

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couldn't say it wouldn't break the rest of the support you mentioned because there is much to speculate especially when the Gox coins are distributed. of course people will believe it will really be distributed although i doubt that, the rumor has been spread.

if the worse happens yes i think that $40k will also be broken and the price goes under. governments selling their BTC is the worse fud they've made.
when the price swings sideways for a long time like a month in one of these supports, that's when we can see a bounce and maybe a bull season.
Title: Re: foreseeing a plunge of price, what would you do?
Post by: ZAINmalik75 on July 20, 2024, 09:31:24 PM
maybe the price has to dip that low in order for the market to have a good momentum in the next bull run, would you dump your coins and wait for the dump to buy at $40k on spot or would you rather go shorting on futures?
If I have solid reasons to believe that the price of BTC will dump to $40k which I don't have then I will book my profit now and wait for entry at $40k but that's not how things worked We can assume so many possibilities but its not reliable to make profit from trading. People who love to do future trading will short the trade.

But when too many people already know the market situation market doesn't go the way the whole participants are waiting for it t go. Therefore foreseeing a plunge is a good thing but not surely thing. It is always best to follow risk-reducing methods even if you think the price of BTC will go down. Many people were thinking that the price of BTC would go down due to MT GOX repayments, but the opposite of what everyone thought was happening. Therefore proper plans are needed.
Title: Re: foreseeing a plunge of price, what would you do?
Post by: electronicash on July 20, 2024, 10:24:00 PM
maybe the price has to dip that low in order for the market to have a good momentum in the next bull run, would you dump your coins and wait for the dump to buy at $40k on spot or would you rather go shorting on futures?
If I have solid reasons to believe that the price of BTC will dump to $40k which I don't have then I will book my profit now and wait for entry at $40k but that's not how things worked We can assume so many possibilities but its not reliable to make profit from trading. People who love to do future trading will short the trade.

But when too many people already know the market situation market doesn't go the way the whole participants are waiting for it t go. Therefore foreseeing a plunge is a good thing but not surely thing. It is always best to follow risk-reducing methods even if you think the price of BTC will go down. Many people were thinking that the price of BTC would go down due to MT GOX repayments, but the opposite of what everyone thought was happening. Therefore proper plans are needed.

well the market shifted already. maybe it will continue to go up or downwards after pump. market is yet unsure even when there is a huge up trend movement.
i'd like to think its going to kickstart the bull run not just for BTC but the whole crypto.

there are also people who are seeing the dump was fake as staged initiated by the German government and Mt gox which they are saying price will shoot up faster than they can buy back. if their theory was right, this could be what they mean.