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Title: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: NotATether on July 04, 2024, 08:39:55 AM
So we are now at the point were people get scared when the price goes to $50k or $60k, even though just 3 years ago, everyone was very bearish for that point.

Understandable, but today I'm going to tell you why the bitocin price can get even higher than this in 2025 if not earlier.

You see, it all starts with this graph:

(https://imgprxy.stacker.news/wbKDvEP4OBNkD5kEBiikoKe6NpxYBrROu-rOlbiJmWo/rs:fit:2560:1440/aHR0cHM6Ly9tLnN0YWNrZXIubmV3cy8zODA2NQ)

Now, what do you notice here? The multiplication factors for the last 3 halving cycles were:

54x
13x
7x

The jump between the first and second factor is a decrease by about 75%, while a 50% decrease happened between the second and third halving.

Now that the fourth halving has taken place, if we follow this trend, we are going to see about a 25% decrease in the price increases.

Or: 7 * (100%-25%) = 7 * 75% or about a 4-5x increase in the price.

Think about it.

Bitcoin is sitting at $60k right now.

So that means the price between now and 2028 will literally finish between $240k and $300k.
Title: Re: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: target on July 04, 2024, 09:22:37 AM

Every Bitcoin holder I think are all hopeful the price would go up. When they say $1M will be its price, the more it make sense for them to hold.

I think people are scared because it takes 4 years for this cycle and then its already going back bear market while they still expect price tk hit more than $100k. What if it don't?

For a new investors who hasn't been in bear market, its scary also.
Title: Re: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: KingsDen on July 04, 2024, 10:46:29 AM
So that means the price between now and 2028 will literally finish between $240k and $300k.
It's always scary when there is such crazy bitcoin price predictions as above. I know 2028 is a long way to go and many things can happen before then. But I am not optimistic at all. Before I will think of bitcoin hitting $240k to $300k, it must first be able to hit $100k. Me and you know that there'll actually be some selling pressure when bitcoin hits $100k and that pressure might impede further upwards movement.

To me, the market will remain scary and unhappy till after the US elections, then I'll know the next move. Things are changing in bitcoin to the extent that historical data has began to fail.
Title: Re: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: SmartGold01 on July 04, 2024, 11:16:54 AM
To me, the market will remain scary and unhappy till after the US elections, then I'll know the next move. Things are changing in bitcoin to the extent that historical data has began to fail.

well sincerely speaking I don't see anything much change so easily in the bitcoin historical data if not for this year that we achieved ATH before halving and you an I knows that the changes was a results of ETF, and apart from this I didn't any much effects within the space. Talking of US election, though I am also optimistic that something positive would happened only if Donald Trump emerges as winner since he has made lot of promises to space.
Title: Re: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: Roseline492 on July 04, 2024, 12:29:16 PM

Every Bitcoin holder I think are all hopeful the price would go up. When they say $1M will be its price, the more it make sense for them to hold.

I think people are scared because it takes 4 years for this cycle and then its already going back bear market while they still expect price tk hit more than $100k. What if it don't?

For a new investors who hasn't been in bear market, its scary also.

You are right but considering the fact that this is not the first time Bitcoin price is moving this way after halving i see no reason why people should get all worked up about it, for the fact that Bitcoin is the most influential coin among every other coins doesn't mean that it will always be bullish all the time and even in our normal investment at times it go through some difficult times but that doesn't mean it will not appreciate overtime.

So for me i think we shouldn't dwell on the current situation of Bitcoin now because we are very confident the price will peak again, I no that most people especially the new ones will be very confused if they had made the right decision by choosing to invest on Bitcoin but I'm very hopeful that with time we will see our Bitcoin investment with a smile on our face.
Title: Re: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: Lucius on July 04, 2024, 04:03:04 PM
I always looked more at the difference between the two ATHs, and between the penultimate and last one the difference was about x3.5 ($20k - $69k). If we take that into account, then the price increase should be a bit smaller, but even if it is only 2-3 times compared to the last ATH, we are talking about a price from $140k to $200k, which is impressive in any case.

However, I think that one should not expect that the bull run will continue until the next halving, but that perhaps a new bear market will begin at the end of 2025 or the beginning of 2026. Of course, all the above is under the assumption that the cycles will take place as it was the case in the past.
Title: Re: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: jeraldskie11 on July 04, 2024, 08:08:39 PM
Nice calculation, and I really believe that the numbers stated above will happen. We have to consider also what happened to the price of Bitcoin before halving, if we noticed in the previous halving, ATH occurred only after the halving while the in this halving year the ATH happened before halving. We see how excited the small and big investors to make the price higher as expected, this only means that many of us this time that are waiting for this. I know that even the smart money have no control of this, they can only manipulate the price but can't control the overall market. Not only us can benefit of this, but also them.
Title: Re: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: Captain Corporate on July 05, 2024, 12:02:05 AM
I mean we already "know" this, of course not everyone believes in this, but a lto of people believe that this will happen and there is nothing wrong with that at all. I believe that it is not going to be something that will be all that complicated, because bull run is bull run and there is nothing different on this one. If you look at previous bull runs as well then you are going to end up seeing that we have seen drops on those as well and its only the natural part of it. Imagine this period (or any other drop) like drawing an arrow back on a bow, the further you draw it back the further you can shoot that arrow, and right now we are having these drops you are going to end up with getting much better result in the end. So focus on what you can do and eventually you are going to end up doing much better and get a greater result, we just need to wait.
Title: Re: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: Rruchi man on July 05, 2024, 09:19:31 PM
Think about it.

Bitcoin is sitting at $60k right now.

So that means the price between now and 2028 will literally finish between $240k and $300k.
It is a possible estimate of what the value of bitcoins will be by then. In the next couple of months, I expect the value to drop, which will create a scare in the market but will be in fact an opportunity for people to buy more bitcoin because, after the serious dip, the rise in the value will be massive enough to break the former high price that bitcoin has set.

By 2028, 240k and 300k are possible figures.
Title: Re: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: KingsDen on July 06, 2024, 10:41:44 PM
To me, the market will remain scary and unhappy till after the US elections, then I'll know the next move. Things are changing in bitcoin to the extent that historical data has began to fail.

well sincerely speaking I don't see anything much change so easily in the bitcoin historical data if not for this year that we achieved ATH before halving and you an I knows that the changes was a results of ETF, and apart from this I didn't any much effects within the space. Talking of US election, though I am also optimistic that something positive would happened only if Donald Trump emerges as winner since he has made lot of promises to space.
It might appear that nothing much had actually changed in Bitcoin but in reality, the effect of any little change is enormous. We all acknowledged the effect of the ETF approval which is indeed positive because it made us see a new ATH high before halving. Although, we can also see change in the bitcoin price movement, unlike how it used to be in the past. I can say that not everyone predicted the sudden downward movement of bitcoin.
Title: Re: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: NotATether on July 07, 2024, 04:49:42 AM
So that means the price between now and 2028 will literally finish between $240k and $300k.
It's always scary when there is such crazy bitcoin price predictions as above. I know 2028 is a long way to go and many things can happen before then. But I am not optimistic at all. Before I will think of bitcoin hitting $240k to $300k, it must first be able to hit $100k. Me and you know that there'll actually be some selling pressure when bitcoin hits $100k and that pressure might impede further upwards movement.

Why not?

Selling pressure happens in every bull cycle, it's nothing new, I'm not saying that there aren't going to be dips - of course there will be - but I'm just saying that Bitcoin is massively undervalued right now, and when more people buy it, then the price will get closer to what it's intrinsic value is supposed to be (which we won't know until everyone who wants to buy Bitcoin, has bought it).
Title: Re: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: Captain Corporate on July 07, 2024, 07:29:38 AM
I agree, just because we have seen some small drop doesn't mean that we are going to not see bitcoin price go up. Its just only natural that the price will be quite high and we need to end up with something much better if we trust the price. All in all, we need to remember that life isn't all that simple, and we can't always make it work all that easily, so we should just focus on what we can do with what we have. If we can manage that, then we are going to end up with a much better result without a doubt. Don't lose your hope, and try to keep that belief in bitcoin that it will go up and you will be fine. Without having any other bigger drop, I believe that we are going to start being higher and higher with time and there won't be anything that could get that much worse on the long run.
Title: Re: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: pieppiep on July 07, 2024, 07:57:23 AM
I agree, just because we have seen some small drop doesn't mean that we are going to not see bitcoin price go up. Its just only natural that the price will be quite high and we need to end up with something much better if we trust the price. All in all, we need to remember that life isn't all that simple, and we can't always make it work all that easily, so we should just focus on what we can do with what we have. If we can manage that, then we are going to end up with a much better result without a doubt. Don't lose your hope, and try to keep that belief in bitcoin that it will go up and you will be fine. Without having any other bigger drop, I believe that we are going to start being higher and higher with time and there won't be anything that could get that much worse on the long run.
Living to become rich does require quite a long process. Just like when you look at the price of Bitcoin, which is currently still cheap, this digital currency also requires a process to have a very expensive price. Currently, Bitcoin still has some supply that is locked and can still be mined. When the Bitcoin supply has run out and everything has been mined, you can be sure that the price of Bitcoin will always rise higher than it is now.
Title: Re: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: hugeblack on July 07, 2024, 10:16:35 AM
Bitcoin is sitting at $60k right now.

So that means the price between now and 2028 will literally finish between $240k and $300k.

I do not think that this is accurate. The percentage is calculated from the highest ATH for the previous cycle, which represents 69k, and the percentage will most likely be between 2.5 to 3, which means 175k to 210k, but in most cases it will be less than 180k in the best of circumstances.


Generally @ImThour (bitcointalk forum UID 2775128) and @dragonvslinux (bitcointalk forum UID 1170966) have in-depth analyzes about this topic, I advise you to read them.
Title: Re: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: Stompix on July 07, 2024, 03:18:26 PM
54x
13x
7x

The jump between the first and second factor is a decrease by about 75%, while a 50% decrease happened between the second and third halving.

You do realize that for this pattern to be correct we will have a zero decrease between the fourth and fifth halving and then an incremental increase?  :D Meaning that by 2080 we will be at around 10000x increase per cycle?

A better pattern would be a direct value increase,
so 12>651>8602>69 000 which would point to ~155 000
Title: Re: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: SmartGold01 on July 07, 2024, 03:22:33 PM
To me, the market will remain scary and unhappy till after the US elections, then I'll know the next move. Things are changing in bitcoin to the extent that historical data has began to fail.

well sincerely speaking I don't see anything much change so easily in the bitcoin historical data if not for this year that we achieved ATH before halving and you an I knows that the changes was a results of ETF, and apart from this I didn't any much effects within the space. Talking of US election, though I am also optimistic that something positive would happened only if Donald Trump emerges as winner since he has made lot of promises to space.
It might appear that nothing much had actually changed in Bitcoin but in reality, the effect of any little change is enormous. We all acknowledged the effect of the ETF approval which is indeed positive because it made us see a new ATH high before halving. Although, we can also see change in the bitcoin price movement, unlike how it used to be in the past. I can say that not everyone predicted the sudden downward movement of bitcoin.
Yes we that price of bitcoin and the entire cryptocurrency market is unpredictable so anything is possible to happened, and of course i am not saying that it won't change but only saying that present there is no much effects to show that the market gonna change. Changes could take time effects maybe after the bull run we would know if that changes has really took effects, however we knew that the market is too volatile that anytime and many moment changes could come.
Title: Re: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: SamReomo on July 07, 2024, 03:32:16 PM
It's always scary when there is such crazy bitcoin price predictions as above. I know 2028 is a long way to go and many things can happen before then. But I am not optimistic at all. Before I will think of bitcoin hitting $240k to $300k, it must first be able to hit $100k.
Yes, $240k to $300k is a very high prediction but if Bitcoin somehow crosses $100k in this bull run then it can easily reach $240k in next cycle. There's possibility of Bitcoin getting huge dumps in coming days or weeks because of that Mt. GOX crediting, however if it somehow manages to stay over $45k despite huge selling pressure then it may reach or cross $100k this bull run and if that happens then it may reach or cross $240k in next cycle.
Title: Re: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: KingsDen on July 07, 2024, 06:23:02 PM
Generally @ImThour (bitcointalk forum UID 2775128) and @dragonvslinux (bitcointalk forum UID 1170966) have in-depth analyzes about this topic, I advise you to read them.
Gonna check them out. But it would have been easier if you dropped the link to the posts here for easy accessibility.

It's always scary when there is such crazy bitcoin price predictions as above. I know 2028 is a long way to go and many things can happen before then. But I am not optimistic at all. Before I will think of bitcoin hitting $240k to $300k, it must first be able to hit $100k.
Yes, $240k to $300k is a very high prediction but if Bitcoin somehow crosses $100k in this bull run then it can easily reach $240k in next cycle. There's possibility of Bitcoin getting huge dumps in coming days or weeks because of that Mt. GOX crediting, however if it somehow manages to stay over $45k despite huge selling pressure then it may reach or cross $100k this bull run and if that happens then it may reach or cross $240k in next cycle.
Well, nothing is impossible. You understood where my fears was coming from. If bitcoin should travel as high as predicted in OP, it should therefore stop it's downward movement. There's the extent it will go downwards and rising to that great high will be a problem. But according to you, if it makes 100k this circle everything is obtainable in the next circle.
Title: Re: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: milewilda on July 07, 2024, 09:06:07 PM
It's always scary when there is such crazy bitcoin price predictions as above. I know 2028 is a long way to go and many things can happen before then. But I am not optimistic at all. Before I will think of bitcoin hitting $240k to $300k, it must first be able to hit $100k.
Yes, $240k to $300k is a very high prediction but if Bitcoin somehow crosses $100k in this bull run then it can easily reach $240k in next cycle. There's possibility of Bitcoin getting huge dumps in coming days or weeks because of that Mt. GOX crediting, however if it somehow manages to stay over $45k despite huge selling pressure then it may reach or cross $100k this bull run and if that happens then it may reach or cross $240k in next cycle.
If we do speak about selling pressure then it would really be that much greater in compared into those early years or cycle on which we dont still have those institutions
that had been hoarding or accumulating Bitcoin which is unlike now that they do have tons of coins into their bags on which it could potentially that make up those kind of
possible selling their bags on the moment that they've seen that they are already on profits. This is why i dont see much reason that it could be able to fly out that much
in speaking about into this manner.
Title: Re: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: JoyMarsha on July 07, 2024, 10:01:01 PM
Think about it.

Bitcoin is sitting at $60k right now.

So that means the price between now and 2028 will literally finish between $240k and $300k.
We can't say, until when we get to see the ATH of bitcoin in next year's bull run(2025). Towards then, we can speculate and have an idea of what price are we to expect bitcoin to arrive at in the next bitcoin halving of 2028 since 2028 is the year of bitcoin halving. Although people will be looking at 2029 for ATH to come by, not 2028. That's how most of us are anticipating bitcoin to give ATH of $120k-$150k in 2025, not this year when bitcoin had its halving season
Title: Re: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: UNIVERSE on July 07, 2024, 10:50:22 PM
It's always scary when there is such crazy bitcoin price predictions as above. I know 2028 is a long way to go and many things can happen before then. But I am not optimistic at all. Before I will think of bitcoin hitting $240k to $300k, it must first be able to hit $100k. Me and you know that there'll actually be some selling pressure when bitcoin hits $100k and that pressure might impede further upwards movement.
Even if there is no such prediction, the dump is always scary. Yes, 2028 is still far from today, there is a chance of many changes in crypto market. I assume it is not impossible to see $240k - $300k, but it is not really convincing if we consider the current price. You're right, we even don't cross $100k. How can it can be $240k - $300k? Too early to predict it..

To me, the market will remain scary and unhappy till after the US elections, then I'll know the next move. Things are changing in bitcoin to the extent that historical data has began to fail.
I'm not really sure that crypto market won't be scary anymore when US election is over. If there is another negative news, the big dump will happen again and again.

Title: Re: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: bitterguy28 on July 08, 2024, 01:47:33 PM
So we are now at the point were people get scared when the price goes to $50k or $60k, even though just 3 years ago, everyone was very bearish for that point.

Understandable, but today I'm going to tell you why the bitocin price can get even higher than this in 2025 if not earlier.

You see, it all starts with this graph:

(https://imgprxy.stacker.news/wbKDvEP4OBNkD5kEBiikoKe6NpxYBrROu-rOlbiJmWo/rs:fit:2560:1440/aHR0cHM6Ly9tLnN0YWNrZXIubmV3cy8zODA2NQ)
Graphs like this boosts those who are slowly losing trust because of this dumping market in which I believe will bring more buyer at this point of dumping (like me who bought in 54kish again)
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Now, what do you notice here? The multiplication factors for the last 3 halving cycles were:

54x
13x
7x

The jump between the first and second factor is a decrease by about 75%, while a 50% decrease happened between the second and third halving.
this make sense m because halving mostly brings that multiplier in bitcoin price since the first one.
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So that means the price between now and 2028 will literally finish between $240k and $300k.
well 2028 seems far from what we are expecting this year and 2025 , but for those who are willing to keep holding till next halving? that seems to be a best interest.
Title: Re: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: SamReomo on July 09, 2024, 08:50:08 PM
Well, nothing is impossible. You understood where my fears was coming from. If bitcoin should travel as high as predicted in OP, it should therefore stop it's downward movement. There's the extent it will go downwards and rising to that great high will be a problem. But according to you, if it makes 100k this circle everything is obtainable in the next circle.
Yes, in crypto world nothing is impossible, who had ever thought that one day Bitcoin will be at $75k? Only few visionary people were having such thoughts and that's why they bought Bitcoin in its early days.

A few days ago someone sold 50 Bitcoin that he/she mined in April of 2010 and has hodl those coins for 14 years before selling those at $3M worth of value. I know that someone can be a lucky fellow to find his mined coins after 14 years and made $3M worth of fiat with those Bitcoin.

If that's possible and has happened then everything is possible. I'm pretty sure that Bitcoin will do quite good this time because it's now getting supported by major financial institutions. Those who're selling their Bitcoin might regret when they see Bitcoin at $100k or $250k or $1M within 10 years.

I'm not fully sure that how long it will take Bitcoin to reach $1M value but surely that thing can happen in future.
Title: Re: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: Jewan420 on July 10, 2024, 05:55:53 AM
We should not expect too much from Bitcoin, expectations that will be difficult for Bitcoin to meet. We're all waiting for Bitcoin to halve and expect the halving to multiply. So $240k - $300k seems a bit high to expect. With a combination of bullish and bearish markets, I see 2028 ending between $180k-$220k. That's just my expectation, not expecting too much so I'm disappointed.
Title: Re: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: JoyMarsha on August 03, 2024, 11:49:35 PM
Think about it.

Bitcoin is sitting at $60k right now.

So that means the price between now and 2028 will literally finish between $240k and $300k.
It is a possible estimate of what the value of bitcoins will be by then. In the next couple of months, I expect the value to drop, which will create a scare in the market but will be in fact an opportunity for people to buy more bitcoin because, after the serious dip, the rise in the value will be massive enough to break the former high price that bitcoin has set.

By 2028, 240k and 300k are possible figures.
It is a very possible figure to happen around 2028, but I do expect the price of bitcoin to fall drastically below the stated price months later.

2028 should be the Bitcoin halving season. if we were to analyze what has happened in the past halving season of 2020 and this year, we would find out that Bitcoin first had an increased price before it began to fall in price months later. It was the next year that it made a huge price impact.

The 2020 halving season saw Bitcoin to a new ATH in the upper year (2021). This year(2024), we are going to witness the same next year(2025)
Title: Re: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: target on August 04, 2024, 07:21:03 AM
We should not expect too much from Bitcoin, expectations that will be difficult for Bitcoin to meet. We're all waiting for Bitcoin to halve and expect the halving to multiply. So $240k - $300k seems a bit high to expect. With a combination of bullish and bearish markets, I see 2028 ending between $180k-$220k. That's just my expectation, not expecting too much so I'm disappointed.

We always expect higher price as time flies and another cycle should move the price higher but seeing what the price today is still the price of the previous bull run, it might just be a slow climb from now on.

If Trump though could convert regular people to invest in crypto while the regulations isn't making the lives of investors a living hell, price will go higher. They say the bull run hasnt started yet so there is something to expect before 2025.

Title: Re: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: MrSpasybo on August 05, 2024, 04:26:38 PM
We always expect higher price as time flies and another cycle should move the price higher but seeing what the price today is still the price of the previous bull run, it might just be a slow climb from now on.

If Trump though could convert regular people to invest in crypto while the regulations isn't making the lives of investors a living hell, price will go higher. They say the bull run hasnt started yet so there is something to expect before 2025.
Investors are often cautious during accumulation phases and become overly greedy when the market recovers. We once talked about BTC reaching $50K in 2017 but it stopped at $20K, we once talked about $100K in 2021 but BTC stopped at $70K. The same thing might happen in this bullrun, meaning we hope that positive news such as BTC Spot ETF and Trump's support could push BTC price to hundreds of thousands of $ but the market has its own rules, corrections will still come despite our expectations.

Currently, I only dare to expect $150K-170K for BTC in this cycle. If BTC price can conquer higher prices, I will be able to make bigger profits, but I am also ready to liquidate all my crypto assets when BTC shows signs of breaking the growth pattern at any time in 2025.
Title: Re: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: philipma1957 on August 09, 2024, 04:47:47 AM
We always expect higher price as time flies and another cycle should move the price higher but seeing what the price today is still the price of the previous bull run, it might just be a slow climb from now on.

If Trump though could convert regular people to invest in crypto while the regulations isn't making the lives of investors a living hell, price will go higher. They say the bull run hasnt started yet so there is something to expect before 2025.
Investors are often cautious during accumulation phases and become overly greedy when the market recovers. We once talked about BTC reaching $50K in 2017 but it stopped at $20K, we once talked about $100K in 2021 but BTC stopped at $70K. The same thing might happen in this bullrun, meaning we hope that positive news such as BTC Spot ETF and Trump's support could push BTC price to hundreds of thousands of $ but the market has its own rules, corrections will still come despite our expectations.

Currently, I only dare to expect $150K-170K for BTC in this cycle. If BTC price can conquer higher prices, I will be able to make bigger profits, but I am also ready to liquidate all my crypto assets when BTC shows signs of breaking the growth pattern at any time in 2025.


trump's support does not exist.

maybe it it will happen if he wins maybe not.

But his law ending like kind exchanges in Jan 1 2018 really really hurt crypto
Title: Re: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: Asiska02 on August 20, 2024, 10:02:46 PM
So that means the price between now and 2028 will literally finish between $240k and $300k.
It's always scary when there is such crazy bitcoin price predictions as above. I know 2028 is a long way to go and many things can happen before then. But I am not optimistic at all. Before I will think of bitcoin hitting $240k to $300k, it must first be able to hit $100k. Me and you know that there'll actually be some selling pressure when bitcoin hits $100k and that pressure might impede further upwards movement.

You have a point in your stance on this discussion. Before we think about bitcoin getting to that price we should see it getting to $100K and creating a strong support there during pro-bull run season. The market price can still be trading a little bit below that price before the next halving that will lead to the subsequent bull run of it getting to that price. All this will only come after so many fluctuations and corrections in the market that we’ll be experiencing from now till then.

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To me, the market will remain scary and unhappy till after the US elections, then I'll know the next move. Things are changing in bitcoin to the extent that historical data has began to fail.

A lot have changed in this cycle and so historical data can’t be a force to reckon on in determining bitcoin prices in the future. The one that caught my attention more is bitcoin exceeding the ATH and marking a new one even before the halving took place. First of its kind in the crypto world.
Title: Re: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: KingsDen on August 20, 2024, 10:27:27 PM
To me, the market will remain scary and unhappy till after the US elections, then I'll know the next move. Things are changing in bitcoin to the extent that historical data has began to fail.
I'm not really sure that crypto market won't be scary anymore when US election is over. If there is another negative news, the big dump will happen again and again.
Well, the nature of cryptocurrency market is always scary and unpredictable. When you think you must have understood the market it will eventually take you unaware. This is why we need to be precautious at every time in this industry that is full of adversity. However we know that every bad fundamental affects the market, but there are some fundamentals with major effects in the market which US election is one of them. One thing I don't understand about the US election in relation to the market behavior is that even when trump which is perceived as pro bitcoin makes statement in favor of Bitcoin it still doesn't rise. It seems it is an a journey to the bear road. This could be time to accumulate till after November.
Title: Re: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: milewilda on September 03, 2024, 04:48:57 AM
To me, the market will remain scary and unhappy till after the US elections, then I'll know the next move. Things are changing in bitcoin to the extent that historical data has began to fail.
I'm not really sure that crypto market won't be scary anymore when US election is over. If there is another negative news, the big dump will happen again and again.
Well, the nature of cryptocurrency market is always scary and unpredictable. When you think you must have understood the market it will eventually take you unaware. This is why we need to be precautious at every time in this industry that is full of adversity. However we know that every bad fundamental affects the market, but there are some fundamentals with major effects in the market which US election is one of them. One thing I don't understand about the US election in relation to the market behavior is that even when trump which is perceived as pro bitcoin makes statement in favor of Bitcoin it still doesn't rise. It seems it is an a journey to the bear road. This could be time to accumulate till after November.
Expect the unexpected as always yet there's no way that we would be able to determine on where prices go and this is something which is really that very normal. There would really be those moments that we would be trying out to connect on what happened in the past and assuming that it would happen in the future. Well its a common approach or mindset to have
because it might not really that a precise thing to happen but it do always rhymes and assuming on what happened on the previous cycle then its something that could happen in the upcoming ones but of course you should lower your expectation and we do know that anything could really happen.
Title: Re: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: sampoerna on September 05, 2024, 11:33:17 PM
Expect the unexpected as always yet there's no way that we would be able to determine on where prices go and this is something which is really that very normal. There would really be those moments that we would be trying out to connect on what happened in the past and assuming that it would happen in the future. Well its a common approach or mindset to have
because it might not really that a precise thing to happen but it do always rhymes and assuming on what happened on the previous cycle then its something that could happen in the upcoming ones but of course you should lower your expectation and we do know that anything could really happen.
Thoughts, predictions, and also hopes based on the cycles that occur in Bitcoin, exist because of the repetition of previous cycles in the previous few years. Then, an analysis is drawn from the monthly or annual indicators where the cycle usually occurs. And this is one of the guidelines for analysis based on what happened in previous years.

But indeed, there is no prediction that will always be 100% right. But maybe it will only be close, or even very different. because this time we never know what will actually happen to the price of Bitcoin, it can change instantly because of big news, and so on.

The most important thing is how we respond to the price of Bitcoin which is always changing, which may not be according to predictions, and may not have reached the target price that we set. Yes, we have to be prepared for everything and not panic.
Title: Re: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: JoyMarsha on September 15, 2024, 08:59:50 PM
To me, the market will remain scary and unhappy till after the US elections, then I'll know the next move. Things are changing in bitcoin to the extent that historical data has began to fail.
I'm not really sure that crypto market won't be scary anymore when US election is over. If there is another negative news, the big dump will happen again and again.
If the big dump should happen over and over again based on who wins the US election, one sure thing is that the crypto market will recover in all that, It is just a matter of time before it will soar to the anticipated price that many of us are looking up to for Bitcoin to reach in 2025. However, there shouldn't be many worries about who becomes the US president by November because it won't stop Bitcoin from skyrocketing to a new ATH by next year. However, keep investing and applying a DCA strategy to Bitcoin accumulation, believing that Bitcoin will soar above its present price to a higher price of $100k
Title: Re: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: debra on September 15, 2024, 11:10:01 PM
However, there shouldn't be many worries about who becomes the US president by November because it won't stop Bitcoin from skyrocketing to a new ATH by next year. However, keep investing and applying a DCA strategy to Bitcoin accumulation, believing that Bitcoin will soar above its present price to a higher price of $100k
It means that the US selection will be one of the big factors in crypto development, I mean the development of crypto prices. However, many parties predict that it will have a positive trend impact on the crypto market. Right at the end of the year. So is it possible that next year will really be the peak of the bullrun and reach a new ATH?

Actually, the US election is only one factor. But, is it possible that whether Trump or Harris is elected, it will still have a good impact on the crypto world? Because both of them are quite supportive of crypto? Because most of the voters are millennials and Gen Z, and some of them are concerned with the crypto world. That's why for this presidential election, crypto is again one of the things that is taken into account to gain more votes.
Title: Re: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: milewilda on September 18, 2024, 01:18:14 PM
Expect the unexpected as always yet there's no way that we would be able to determine on where prices go and this is something which is really that very normal. There would really be those moments that we would be trying out to connect on what happened in the past and assuming that it would happen in the future. Well its a common approach or mindset to have
because it might not really that a precise thing to happen but it do always rhymes and assuming on what happened on the previous cycle then its something that could happen in the upcoming ones but of course you should lower your expectation and we do know that anything could really happen.
Thoughts, predictions, and also hopes based on the cycles that occur in Bitcoin, exist because of the repetition of previous cycles in the previous few years. Then, an analysis is drawn from the monthly or annual indicators where the cycle usually occurs. And this is one of the guidelines for analysis based on what happened in previous years.

But indeed, there is no prediction that will always be 100% right. But maybe it will only be close, or even very different. because this time we never know what will actually happen to the price of Bitcoin, it can change instantly because of big news, and so on.

The most important thing is how we respond to the price of Bitcoin which is always changing, which may not be according to predictions, and may not have reached the target price that we set. Yes, we have to be prepared for everything and not panic.
It would really be that according on how well you do make yourself that respond on whatever market conditions that you might encounter on the time or moment that the market will really be having its movement on which neither you would really be selling out on peak or would be buying at bottom, but as we do all know that determining these spots isnt something that easy
or coudlnt really be known. This is why every decisions that will be making will really be that definitely basing up on your skills and experience on which outcomes and results would really
be able to determine out. It will really be best that you should really know on what you should gonna do into these times.
Title: Re: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: Jating on September 18, 2024, 09:40:14 PM
To me, the market will remain scary and unhappy till after the US elections, then I'll know the next move. Things are changing in bitcoin to the extent that historical data has began to fail.
I'm not really sure that crypto market won't be scary anymore when US election is over. If there is another negative news, the big dump will happen again and again.
If the big dump should happen over and over again based on who wins the US election, one sure thing is that the crypto market will recover in all that, It is just a matter of time before it will soar to the anticipated price that many of us are looking up to for Bitcoin to reach in 2025. However, there shouldn't be many worries about who becomes the US president by November because it won't stop Bitcoin from skyrocketing to a new ATH by next year. However, keep investing and applying a DCA strategy to Bitcoin accumulation, believing that Bitcoin will soar above its present price to a higher price of $100k

I don't know, but I don't believed that we will see a dump regardless of who is going to win in the US election. On the contrary, I see that in the November (when we know who will win) to January (when he/she officially sits in the White House), there could be huge pump in the crypto market.

We just need like this kind of good news, so that the whales are going to pour their money on the market again, to push it to a new all time high or to the price that we all wanted to see, that 6 digits in 2025.
Title: Re: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: Captain Corporate on September 18, 2024, 09:59:15 PM
Simple reason is that we are going to see it repeat basically what it did a d thats why it will be much higher. Last time it was a bull run was 2021 and we have seen it go more than three times tha last all time high in 2017. So by that logic if we see triple of last all time high then it would be over 200k and that is a likely expectation and quite realistically without a doubt. However even if we do less and just double the price that would be close to 150k and that would be nearly thfee times of right now. This is ehy invedting right now is a logical thing to do and we should invest carefully, we should accumulate and hold so that we can profit a lot during this upcoming bull run
Title: Re: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: Sim_card on September 19, 2024, 06:06:41 PM
To me, the market will remain scary and unhappy till after the US elections, then I'll know the next move. Things are changing in bitcoin to the extent that historical data has began to fail.
I'm not really sure that crypto market won't be scary anymore when US election is over. If there is another negative news, the big dump will happen again and again.
If the big dump should happen over and over again based on who wins the US election, one sure thing is that the crypto market will recover in all that, It is just a matter of time before it will soar to the anticipated price that many of us are looking up to for Bitcoin to reach in 2025. However, there shouldn't be many worries about who becomes the US president by November because it won't stop Bitcoin from skyrocketing to a new ATH by next year. However, keep investing and applying a DCA strategy to Bitcoin accumulation, believing that Bitcoin will soar above its present price to a higher price of $100k
The approval of Bitcoin ETF will also make the price to skyrocket because we saw thw little impact it add on the price of bitcoin pumping in March and I still believe that it will still contribute to the price of bitcoin when the bull run comes in proper. Something must lead to thw price skyrocketing and no one knows what will be that but we will have bitcoin at 100k and above at the end of this circle before the bear market comes in.
Title: Re: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: debra on September 21, 2024, 11:38:54 PM
The approval of Bitcoin ETF will also make the price to skyrocket because we saw thw little impact it add on the price of bitcoin pumping in March and I still believe that it will still contribute to the price of bitcoin when the bull run comes in proper. Something must lead to thw price skyrocketing and no one knows what will be that but we will have bitcoin at 100k and above at the end of this circle before the bear market comes in.
Bitcoin ETF has showed its impact, Bitcoin even could breaks its ATH in March. There is big demand in Bitcoin because it finally joins ETF spot. But some people don't hold their Bitcoin for a long time, they started to sell their Bitcoin. So after the pump in March, Bitcoin experienced some of big dumps or corrections.

It is possible to reach $100k. But it should be in the next year. You need to keep holding if your target is $100k.

Title: Re: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: MRY on October 12, 2024, 09:47:07 AM
To me, the market will remain scary and unhappy till after the US elections, then I'll know the next move. Things are changing in bitcoin to the extent that historical data has began to fail.
I'm not really sure that crypto market won't be scary anymore when US election is over. If there is another negative news, the big dump will happen again and again.
If the big dump should happen over and over again based on who wins the US election, one sure thing is that the crypto market will recover in all that, It is just a matter of time before it will soar to the anticipated price that many of us are looking up to for Bitcoin to reach in 2025. However, there shouldn't be many worries about who becomes the US president by November because it won't stop Bitcoin from skyrocketing to a new ATH by next year. However, keep investing and applying a DCA strategy to Bitcoin accumulation, believing that Bitcoin will soar above its present price to a higher price of $100k
The approval of Bitcoin ETF will also make the price to skyrocket because we saw thw little impact it add on the price of bitcoin pumping in March and I still believe that it will still contribute to the price of bitcoin when the bull run comes in proper. Something must lead to thw price skyrocketing and no one knows what will be that but we will have bitcoin at 100k and above at the end of this circle before the bear market comes in.
Basically speaking, it is highly possible that Bitcoin ETF can be one of the biggest trigger for Bitcoin’s price rise since it makes it easier for institutional investors to get exposure to the crypto asset class. It could be big if it is backed by positive sentiments in the market, by combining it with other positive sentiments. But, we also have to recall that the position in the crypto market can be affected in one or another way by different factors and an ETF will not necessarily push the price up shortly.
Title: Re: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: SmartGold01 on October 12, 2024, 02:52:50 PM
Simple reason is that we are going to see it repeat basically what it did a d thats why it will be much higher. Last time it was a bull run was 2021 and we have seen it go more than three times tha last all time high in 2017. So by that logic if we see triple of last all time high then it would be over 200k and that is a likely expectation and quite realistically without a doubt. However even if we do less and just double the price that would be close to 150k and that would be nearly thfee times of right now. This is ehy invedting right now is a logical thing to do and we should invest carefully, we should accumulate and hold so that we can profit a lot during this upcoming bull run
We have always been optimistic about the market and that is just a kind of believe we have on the cryptospace, of course that mind is always good for us as the adaptor but we should also have this mind set that something could likely happened were the market won't always repeat itself at all time, most times we can see bitcoin operates in a way we didn't expect just as what happened before halving as a results of Spot Bitcoin ETF approval took people by storm creating new ATH even before Halving. 
Title: Re: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: JISAN on October 12, 2024, 05:00:24 PM
Bitcoin price will normally pump a lot soon because it will complete its 4 year circle.  On the other hand, this year's circle is likely to get a lot more pumped because Donald Trump is making positive comments about Bitcoin, saying that if he wins the election, he will do something big with Bitcoin. And after this news spread, many positive and negative effects are seen on Bitcoin.  Since Donald Trump is very likely to win the election, it can be said that this is a very good pump for Bitcoin. However, there is also some risk that if Kamala Harris is elected instead of Donald Trump, then in that case there may be an active negative impact on Bitcoin.
Title: Re: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: taufik123 on October 13, 2024, 05:37:14 AM
Bitcoin price will normally pump a lot soon because it will complete its 4 year circle.  On the other hand, this year's circle is likely to get a lot more pumped because Donald Trump is making positive comments about Bitcoin, saying that if he wins the election, he will do something big with Bitcoin. And after this news spread, many positive and negative effects are seen on Bitcoin.  Since Donald Trump is very likely to win the election, it can be said that this is a very good pump for Bitcoin. However, there is also some risk that if Kamala Harris is elected instead of Donald Trump, then in that case there may be an active negative impact on Bitcoin.
Yes, there are many factors why the price of Bitcoin will reach its highest price with a greater trend than the previous terend.
Donald Trump is indeed an indicator that Bitcoin will become a currency that many people want very much. With a lot of speculation circulating that Donald Trump will fully support Bitcoin, it will be a good opportunity for the crypto market, especially after the 4th halving that has already occurred.

And about Kamala Harris, it seems that she is also now switching to support bitcoin because she knows there will be a lot of opponents if she doesn't support bitcoin.

More and more positive ternd will make bitcoin experience a significant increase and we will see that happen after the election happens and of course the result when Trump wins will be a different bullish moment than before.
Title: Re: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: KingsDen on October 13, 2024, 10:32:33 PM
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Title: Re: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: MrSpasybo on October 14, 2024, 08:37:20 PM
  • From the technical side, because a new ATH is seen before halving which has enabled the BTC price up before the bullrun
  • From the fundamental side, because of the US election, if Trump wins, it could mark the beginning of the bull run
  • Besides since ETF, many investors greeted the market, it's assume that Bitcoin is becoming more scarce.
Yeah, these could all be significant drivers for BTC's success as they've never existed in previous cycles. But this could also come with the risk of changing BTC's main trend: BTC price might not continue to surge but rather stagnate due to the deep involvement of traditional investors and manipulation by Wall Street market makers.

Anything can happen, I think BTC will still continue to fluctuate as it has historically with a decreasing amplitude in each cycle: it's very difficult for BTC to reach $250K in 2025, I'd only dare to set a target for BTC price in this cycle at $150K-170K.
Title: Re: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: Captain Corporate on October 15, 2024, 12:44:31 AM
Bitcoin is higher than previous cycles every single cycle. It was bigger than 2014 when you check 2017, and it was bigger in 2021 then it was 2017, and it will be bigger than 2021 during 2025 as well. That is just how it grows, this is why everyone keeps saying you should invest long term. Because if you buy during the bear run, which will come after the peak will happen in 2025, then you are going to end up with a long way but you are going to end up making a big profit. If you want to be a "slow trader", then you can buy during bear, like how 2022 was bear, then you can sell at peak points, this would be a few trades in few years, would be like just couple trades a year at most, maybe less.
Title: Re: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: KingsDen on October 15, 2024, 10:20:44 PM
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Anything can happen, I think BTC will still continue to fluctuate as it has historically with a decreasing amplitude in each cycle: it's very difficult for BTC to reach $250K in 2025, I'd only dare to set a target for BTC price in this cycle at $150K-170K.
Although, this is an industry of possibilities. Anything can happen but I think $250k is somwhat unrealistic in this circle. Bitcoin respect its window so much and it hardly jump windows.
Last window was $15k to $75k and that window successfully closed after halving. And another window is opened and that is the window of $50 to $100. We can see $150 to $170 but it is not guaranteed. Why I'm not confident of $150 is the selling pressure that will be at $100k. Many will sell and it might retard the bull.
Title: Re: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: SamReomo on October 16, 2024, 09:12:31 PM
Last window was $15k to $75k and that window successfully closed after halving. And another window is opened and that is the window of $50 to $100. We can see $150 to $170 but it is not guaranteed. Why I'm not confident of $150 is the selling pressure that will be at $100k. Many will sell and it might retard the bull.
Yes, I guess I'm also going to agree with you in this regard, I believe $100k is gong to be the peak of this cycle and there's chance to see Bitcoin at $105k or something like that if it ever crosses $100k but I don't think it will reach anywhere close to $150k or more that most people predicted.
Title: Re: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: Captain Corporate on October 16, 2024, 09:59:14 PM
We should definitely see a great deal and we should be considering how this could be 150k+ this period when the time comes. I believe this is going to end up with a terrible situations and we can definitely get a lot of trouble if we do not reach those levels. I know going up to 100k would be great, but we need more and if we can see this then we can see this getting to a great trouble since people expect so much more. I believe we are going to see a great deal and shouldn't really be a small increase, we need to end up getting to a lot higher prices to make sure everyone is happy about it.
Title: Re: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: MUGNIA on April 06, 2025, 03:41:50 PM
We should definitely see a great deal and we should be considering how this could be 150k+ this period when the time comes. I believe this is going to end up with a terrible situations and we can definitely get a lot of trouble if we do not reach those levels. I know going up to 100k would be great, but we need more and if we can see this then we can see this getting to a great trouble since people expect so much more. I believe we are going to see a great deal and shouldn't really be a small increase, we need to end up getting to a lot higher prices to make sure everyone is happy about it.

high price is everyone's desire for btc in my opinion, but to achieve that it takes a process, it can't go up continuously in 1 period, if there is no correction and decline, then the 4-year cycle will no longer exist and this will make the market even more chaotic, we don't know whether we are entering a bullrun or bearish season
Title: Re: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: Stuart on April 10, 2025, 02:10:32 PM
So that means the price between now and 2028 will literally finish between $240k and $300k.

This is to say between the years of 2025 - 2028 which is within the range of 4 years, there is a tendency of Bitcoin getting up to $50k for each year before 2028, while looking at the current ATH of $100k+.

We should definitely see a great deal and we should be considering how this could be 150k+ this period when the time comes. I believe this is going to end up with a terrible situations and we can definitely get a lot of trouble if we do not reach those levels. I know going up to 100k would be great, but we need more and if we can see this then we can see this getting to a great trouble since people expect so much more. I believe we are going to see a great deal and shouldn't really be a small increase, we need to end up getting to a lot higher prices to make sure everyone is happy about it.

high price is everyone's desire for btc in my opinion, but to achieve that it takes a process, it can't go up continuously in 1 period, if there is no correction and decline, then the 4-year cycle will no longer exist and this will make the market even more chaotic, we don't know whether we are entering a bullrun or bearish season

Higher price is everyone's desire, which is true, but we know it doesn't really come the way we have it planned in mind. 2025 should have something more fulfilling for everyone, but that will be at the end of the second quarters, cause, the price of Bitcoin, which is a big mover of the market is still struggling, so, if it reclaims the $90k, then we have a better price to reach soon.
Title: Re: Why the Bitcoin price will be MUCH HIGHER in this cycle!
Post by: jeraldskie11 on April 10, 2025, 05:47:43 PM
So that means the price between now and 2028 will literally finish between $240k and $300k.

This is to say between the years of 2025 - 2028 which is within the range of 4 years, there is a tendency of Bitcoin getting up to $50k for each year before 2028, while looking at the current ATH of $100k+.
If we are basing to the 4 year cycle of Bitcoin it is impossible to make that happen. We know that there is a bearish phase which usually takes up to years. When you look at the chart starting 2011, you can clearly see that there are times where the people keep on selling and the market's prices went down. Basing on that cycle, bearish may begin after few months or a year because halving already happened.