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Title: Do you know about BIPs?
Post by: NotATether on July 12, 2024, 05:07:31 PM
For those of you who don't know, I'm sure you have seen the word recently, not here but on the news. Whether it was about Segwit or something else like that, I think it's important for you to know what they are and how they work. So let's get started.

1. A BIP stands for Bitcoin Improvement Proposal.

BIPs are created when somebody has an idea to improve the Bitcoin network. A BIP is a document with a special kind of format that explains exactly why the proposal is needed and how it will work.

2. BIPs are reviewed by the community

All BIPs are submitted to the mailing list of bitcoin-dev or on Github. That is wheve everyone else involved in Bitcoin can go check out the document and offer their opinions on it.

3. Not all BIPs are accepted

Natrually, some BIPs are rejected, for example if it is too complicated to implement, there is not a need for the BIP, or if it changes the Bitcoin protocol in a way that some people don't like.

A BIP is only accepted into the repository if and after it is agreed on by a majority of people. Around this time, it also gets a number.
Title: Re: Do you know about BIPs?
Post by: Cantsay on July 12, 2024, 05:22:22 PM
::/::

Sorry to ask, can bitcoin forks be referred to as a BIP?
Title: Re: Do you know about BIPs?
Post by: AVE5 on July 12, 2024, 05:25:14 PM
A BIP is only accepted into the repository if and after it is agreed on by a majority of people. Around this time, it also gets a number.

Please throw more lightening. What category kind of majority of people that deliberates this proposal of a BIP after submitted? And what's the central power vested on the people that scrutinizes and approves this in the system.?
Title: Re: Do you know about BIPs?
Post by: Crwth on July 12, 2024, 05:50:26 PM
Thank you for sharing this. It’s really interesting but I haven’t seen it on the news in my place.

I think, as long as there is improvement within the bitcoin protocol, I think it is very beneficial towards the cryptocurrency community. Having the reviews Also helps for the right BIP to be implemented.
Title: Re: Do you know about BIPs?
Post by: Captain Corporate on July 12, 2024, 06:08:35 PM
Improvements on bitcoin will always be something that people can care about, and if there is any that we could actually like, we will do that for sure. However, we need to also remember that not all of them are the same and that means we are going to cause a lot of issues if we are not careful. This is why I think its important to realize that we may not get what we want at all times, and the improvement someone offers, may not feel like improvement for many. Plus, there isn't really a way to "stop" an improvement offer, you can think of anything as improvement and could be terrible, hence why majority would get rejected I assume.
Title: Re: Do you know about BIPs?
Post by: Charles-Tim on July 12, 2024, 06:17:27 PM
Sorry to ask, can bitcoin forks be referred to as a BIP?
Just like the implementation of legacy, segwit and many others are soft forks. Yes they are part of the bitcoin improvement proposals. So the accepted proposals are forks of bitcoin.
Title: Re: Do you know about BIPs?
Post by: famososMuertos on July 13, 2024, 12:49:37 AM
...And well, it is one of those readings that you do in some way when you want to know a little more, without this having to be a requirement sine qua non to learn how to use bitcoin, anyway, what led me to reading (learning and curiosity) was BIP39.

Why is it called "BIP39?"
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BIP39 is just one of a set of multiple technical design documents introduced by the cryptocurrency community since Bitcoin's inception. Its name comes from the fact that it was the 39th Bitcoin Improvement Proposal (BIP). It actually has a longer formal title: "Mnemonic code for generating deterministic keys" -- a bit of a mouthful -- so you can think of "BIP39" as its nickname. BIP39 has turned out to be one of the most widely-used BIPs, and it's now implemented by many wallet manufacturers, and used for many more cryptocurrencies than just Bitcoin.
source:https://vault12.com/securemycrypto/crypto-security-basics/what-is-bip39/
Title: Re: Do you know about BIPs?
Post by: NotATether on July 13, 2024, 12:17:44 PM
Please throw more lightening. What category kind of majority of people that deliberates this proposal of a BIP after submitted? And what's the central power vested on the people that scrutinizes and approves this in the system.?

People are elected by the bitcoin community (well specifically, everyone who reads the bitcoin-dev mailing list), to the committee of BIP reviewers. In the beginning it was Luke-jr and I think a few other people, but because of inactivity, the mailing list (people in the Bitcoin organization on Github specifically) had elected new BIP reviewers a few months ago.
Title: Re: Do you know about BIPs?
Post by: MUGNIA on July 13, 2024, 04:26:37 PM
Honestly, I just found out what Bip is from your thread,
Is there any advantage to this Bip ? sorry if I asked the wrong question because I really don't know, if possible could you give me a link so I can read in detail about this Bip
Title: Re: Do you know about BIPs?
Post by: Wiwo on July 14, 2024, 12:11:01 AM
Anything that will improve the Bitcoin network protocol is welcome to development, as long as it not going to be some sort of a big deal for the entire Bitcoin ecosystem just like the Bitcoin forks attempts, i haven't read about this anyways but then from what I have seen so far if the project is aimed at improving the already existing protocol for will go a long way to attract bitcoin users, at least to support such development.

Title: Re: Do you know about BIPs?
Post by: bee on July 14, 2024, 02:24:13 AM
Honestly, I just found out what Bip is from your thread,
Is there any advantage to this Bip ? sorry if I asked the wrong question because I really don't know, if possible could you give me a link so I can read in detail about this Bip
The improvements of the bitcoin protocol became more structured and everyone can see the process since it took the form of a proposal. For example, perhaps not all bitcoin fans know that the Bech32 addresses which are proven to be more tx cost efficient and easy to spell are part of the BIP list (BIP 0173 and 0350)[1][2].
Approving a proposal requires complex discussions and research from several bitcoin technical people so that there are no problems, conflicts, damage to the original protocol.

1. https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Bech32
2. https://github.com/bitcoin/bips?tab=readme-ov-file
Title: Re: Do you know about BIPs?
Post by: Baofeng on July 14, 2024, 04:21:06 AM
If anyone is interested though, there is a mailing list that you can join, albeit it will be pending for approval,

https://groups.google.com/g/bitcoindev

And with regards to BIP here are the latest one on the pipeline,

(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/07/14/oeO55.png)
Title: Re: Do you know about BIPs?
Post by: MUGNIA on July 14, 2024, 07:54:09 AM
Honestly, I just found out what Bip is from your thread,
Is there any advantage to this Bip ? sorry if I asked the wrong question because I really don't know, if possible could you give me a link so I can read in detail about this Bip
The improvements of the bitcoin protocol became more structured and everyone can see the process since it took the form of a proposal. For example, perhaps not all bitcoin fans know that the Bech32 addresses which are proven to be more tx cost efficient and easy to spell are part of the BIP list (BIP 0173 and 0350)[1][2].
Approving a proposal requires complex discussions and research from several bitcoin technical people so that there are no problems, conflicts, damage to the original protocol.

1. https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Bech32
2. https://github.com/bitcoin/bips?tab=readme-ov-file

OK, thank you guys, this really helps my knowledge about Bitcoin, it's nice to have friends like you all who always share knowledge without having to know each other and meet face to face, thank you again
Title: Re: Do you know about BIPs?
Post by: NotATether on July 14, 2024, 09:00:56 AM
The improvements of the bitcoin protocol became more structured and everyone can see the process since it took the form of a proposal. For example, perhaps not all bitcoin fans know that the Bech32 addresses which are proven to be more tx cost efficient and easy to spell are part of the BIP list (BIP 0173 and 0350)[1][2].
Approving a proposal requires complex discussions and research from several bitcoin technical people so that there are no problems, conflicts, damage to the original protocol.

1. https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Bech32
2. https://github.com/bitcoin/bips?tab=readme-ov-file

And also, many technologies are split into many different BIPs so that each section can be described and deliberated over separately, because the way the process is structured makes it so that only a few parts of the standard have to be updated if a document contains an undesirable feature.
Title: Re: Do you know about BIPs?
Post by: bitterguy28 on July 14, 2024, 10:50:27 AM
A BIP is only accepted into the repository if and after it is agreed on by a majority of people. Around this time, it also gets a number.

Please throw more lightening. What category kind of majority of people that deliberates this proposal of a BIP after submitted? And what's the central power vested on the people that scrutinizes and approves this in the system.?
basically anyone can try and propose a protocol if they think it will make bitcoin better

the first bip was proposed by a developer from an individual, the entire community needs to then decide whether this protocol is indeed important for the development of bitcoin we are talking about all developers and miners here since there is no one single entity that controls or manages bitcoin
Title: Re: Do you know about BIPs?
Post by: ABCbits on July 14, 2024, 11:09:07 AM
::/::

Sorry to ask, can bitcoin forks be referred to as a BIP?

It depends on what you mean by fork. If you refer to fork which add new stuff (such as SegWit and Taproot), there are BIP which talk about those. But if you refer to fork which create new altcoin (such as BCH and BTG), the answer is no.

Honestly, I just found out what Bip is from your thread,
Is there any advantage to this Bip ? sorry if I asked the wrong question because I really don't know, if possible could you give me a link so I can read in detail about this Bip

Aside from what other member said, IMO it also serve as more reliable documentation for software developer out there.
Title: Re: Do you know about BIPs?
Post by: SmartGold01 on July 14, 2024, 11:27:42 AM
I have a simple question here and is; if this BIP is there why they don't implement the use of Lightning network? I believe it's a kind of discussion that has already being put heads together by the bitcoin technical development and up till date I never see much use of BLN being used on transaction rather most people often used bch address since it's cost efficient and confirm very easily than the other address.
Title: Re: Do you know about BIPs?
Post by: yhiaali3 on July 14, 2024, 07:56:36 PM
People are elected by the bitcoin community (well specifically, everyone who reads the bitcoin-dev mailing list), to the committee of BIP reviewers. In the beginning it was Luke-jr and I think a few other people, but because of inactivity, the mailing list (people in the Bitcoin organization on Github specifically) had elected new BIP reviewers a few months ago.
Are these people elected by the Bitcoin community (i.e. Bitcoin developers) only or by the Bitcoin community in the broader, all-encompassing sense? Because it smells of centralization here.

Also, if there is a disagreement about accepting or rejecting the BIP, how is the issue resolved? I mean, if there is no consensus on acceptance or rejection, how is the matter resolved?
Title: Re: Do you know about BIPs?
Post by: Kemarit on July 15, 2024, 01:43:10 AM
People are elected by the bitcoin community (well specifically, everyone who reads the bitcoin-dev mailing list), to the committee of BIP reviewers. In the beginning it was Luke-jr and I think a few other people, but because of inactivity, the mailing list (people in the Bitcoin organization on Github specifically) had elected new BIP reviewers a few months ago.
Are these people elected by the Bitcoin community (i.e. Bitcoin developers) only or by the Bitcoin community in the broader, all-encompassing sense? Because it smells of centralization here.

Also, if there is a disagreement about accepting or rejecting the BIP, how is the issue resolved? I mean, if there is no consensus on acceptance or rejection, how is the matter resolved?

Yeah, there could be disagreements, and that's why they are mechanism in place. And it starts with the proposal and obviously there will be discussions, and as you have said, there could be disagreements and that after that there could be revisions that everyone will agree upon. And after that it will be reviewed again and then approval. Typical of a software process, and if you look at closely, it is decentralized and it might take at least 95% to have consensus before it is going to be implemented and then deployed.
Title: Re: Do you know about BIPs?
Post by: ABCbits on July 15, 2024, 10:25:25 AM
I have a simple question here and is; if this BIP is there why they don't implement the use of Lightning network? I believe it's a kind of discussion that has already being put heads together by the bitcoin technical development and up till date I never see much use of BLN being used on transaction rather most people often used bch address since it's cost efficient and confirm very easily than the other address.

I don't fully understand your question, but BIP doesn't contain any proposal specifically about Lightning Network (LN). Besides, nobody can force anyone to use or accept LN.
Title: Re: Do you know about BIPs?
Post by: TomPluz on July 15, 2024, 01:55:55 PM


This is actually my first time to know on BIPs and I am amazed that there is such a mechanism where people can be able to share ideas on how to make Bitcoin a lot better. Now, it would be more amazing if we can have a summary of the many BIPs that were successfully implemented that made Bitcoin more innovative, responsive and resilient as it should be. I am sure that as years will pass by, there can be new BIPs that will be subject to the discussion of the whole community.
Title: Re: Do you know about BIPs?
Post by: MrSpasybo on July 15, 2024, 07:31:10 PM
For those of you who don't know, I'm sure you have seen the word recently, not here but on the news. Whether it was about Segwit or something else like that, I think it's important for you to know what they are and how they work. So let's get started.

1. A BIP stands for Bitcoin Improvement Proposal.

BIPs are created when somebody has an idea to improve the Bitcoin network. A BIP is a document with a special kind of format that explains exactly why the proposal is needed and how it will work.

2. BIPs are reviewed by the community

All BIPs are submitted to the mailing list of bitcoin-dev or on Github. That is wheve everyone else involved in Bitcoin can go check out the document and offer their opinions on it.

3. Not all BIPs are accepted

Natrually, some BIPs are rejected, for example if it is too complicated to implement, there is not a need for the BIP, or if it changes the Bitcoin protocol in a way that some people don't like.

A BIP is only accepted into the repository if and after it is agreed on by a majority of people. Around this time, it also gets a number.
As an investor, I honestly rarely care about BIPs, even though sometimes this information can trigger a new trend in the market, such as BRC-20.

I once planned to become a Bitcore Dev but failed because I found it difficult to focus on developing Bitcoin based on community donations. I think I can trust the decision of the entire Bitcoin community on the update and future of the network through BIPs.
Title: Re: Do you know about BIPs?
Post by: |MINER| on July 15, 2024, 08:40:35 PM
Thank you for sharing this. Actually I was also seen BIP world many times on many website or the forums but I don't remember where I exactly seen that .
But it is also true that till now I was just seeing the world BIP's and I didn't know about its meaning and full form and its purpose yet. By the way in the first time after seeing the title of your thread I thought it was something Like BPIP for altcointalk  ;D
Title: Re: Do you know about BIPs?
Post by: bitmover on July 16, 2024, 02:37:38 PM
1. A BIP stands for Bitcoin Improvement Proposal.

BIPs are created when somebody has an idea to improve the Bitcoin network. A BIP is a document with a special kind of format that explains exactly why the proposal is needed and how it will work.

2. BIPs are reviewed by the community

All BIPs are submitted to the mailing list of bitcoin-dev or on Github. That is wheve everyone else involved in Bitcoin can go check out the document and offer their opinions on it.

3. Not all BIPs are accepted

Natrually, some BIPs are rejected, for example if it is too complicated to implement, there is not a need for the BIP, or if it changes the Bitcoin protocol in a way that some people don't like.

A BIP is only accepted into the repository if and after it is agreed on by a majority of people. Around this time, it also gets a number.

Just for curiosity:

Portuguese bitcointalk community participated in the BIP 39 by submiting word list in portuguese:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5273606.0


I am proud to be a contributor of this BIP
https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0039/portuguese.txt
Title: Re: Do you know about BIPs?
Post by: snowpega on July 16, 2024, 04:02:59 PM
So let's get started.
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Many Thanks, buddy for providing this information as I did not see or read this term anywhere before till now. Your post adds up to my knowledge and as you are a good senior member of our community I really would like to read more threads like this from your side, maybe you have a lot of more information which I may not know. I know buddy it is a very newbie question now I am one and a half years old in the crypto space and To be very honest I am still learning.

There is a network named as lightning network so my question is that this network was also proposed by these Bips? So, what I understand from your post is that When there is a new development comes into the Bitcoin network these all proposed by BIPs, and some BIPs are rejected on the basis of their complexity for the Bitcoin network. Well! many Thanks!  :)
Title: Re: Do you know about BIPs?
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on July 16, 2024, 04:07:18 PM
Thank you for sharing this. Actually I was also seen BIP world many times on many website or the forums but I don't remember where I exactly seen that .
But it is also true that till now I was just seeing the world BIP's and I didn't know about its meaning and full form and its purpose yet. By the way in the first time after seeing the title of your thread I thought it was something Like BPIP for altcointalk  ;D
Haha 😂, lol,
BPIP for altcoinstalks would be really nice by the way, I also thought about this immediately I came across this title or topic of this thread, but being a very frequent user of the BPIP  site, I quickly remembered that one related to bitcointalk after the "B" had a "P" before the "I", while one op is talking about had a "I" immediately after the "B", so made me realize within seconds that he wasn't talking about BPIP as it related to btt.

And @op, thanks very much for sharing this information here, I believe many of us have learnt something new today, though I've come across this information sometime before, but I did not understand it the way your post made me understand it today, thanks a bunch.
Title: Re: Do you know about BIPs?
Post by: giammangiato on July 16, 2024, 04:41:05 PM
Just for curiosity:Portuguese bitcointalk community participated in the BIP 39 by submiting word list in portuguese:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5273606.0I am proud to be a contributor of this BIPhttps://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0039/portuguese.txt
Congratulations indeed for contributing to the Portuguese list.  I have not contributed anything other than explaining to friends and acquaintances what bitcoin is, however I never use the Italian list of words, I prefer the English one but I understand that for some it may be useful to have the seed in Italian.
Title: Re: Do you know about BIPs?
Post by: bee on July 16, 2024, 06:00:51 PM
I have a simple question here and is; if this BIP is there why they don't implement the use of Lightning network?
Lightning network is a side chain solution that simply leverages existing bitcoin protocol features such as CLTV (checklock time verify) and CSV (check sequence verify)[1]. Both are on the list of BIPs (0065 & 0112) that have been approved and implemented in blockchain protocols.


1. https://docs.lightning.engineering/the-lightning-network/multihop-payments/timelocks
Title: Re: Do you know about BIPs?
Post by: SmartGold01 on July 17, 2024, 09:13:56 PM
I have a simple question here and is; if this BIP is there why they don't implement the use of Lightning network? I believe it's a kind of discussion that has already being put heads together by the bitcoin technical development and up till date I never see much use of BLN being used on transaction rather most people often used bch address since it's cost efficient and confirm very easily than the other address.

I don't fully understand your question, but BIP doesn't contain any proposal specifically about Lightning Network (LN). Besides, nobody can force anyone to use or accept LN.
Is okay, I was actually having that feeling that it is related to Lightning Network since it stand for Bitcoin Improvement Proposal, I was having this thought that why this proposal don't move motion for the effectiveness of LN. But however since you said it doesn't related to it then I leave.
Title: Re: Do you know about BIPs?
Post by: bitmover on July 17, 2024, 11:59:26 PM
I have a simple question here and is; if this BIP is there why they don't implement the use of Lightning network?
Lightning network is a side chain solution that simply leverages existing bitcoin protocol features such as CLTV (checklock time verify) and CSV (check sequence verify)[1]. Both are on the list of BIPs (0065 & 0112) that have been approved and implemented in blockchain protocols.


1. https://docs.lightning.engineering/the-lightning-network/multihop-payments/timelocks

Actually, lightning network is a second layer, which is a bit different than a side chain

An example of sidechain is liquid network, which is actually another chain. Lightning network isn't.

You can read more about here
https://cointelegraph.com/learn/sidechains-vs-layer-2s-vs-appchains
Title: Re: Do you know about BIPs?
Post by: SmartGold01 on July 19, 2024, 09:42:45 AM
I have a simple question here and is; if this BIP is there why they don't implement the use of Lightning network?
Lightning network is a side chain solution that simply leverages existing bitcoin protocol features such as CLTV (checklock time verify) and CSV (check sequence verify)[1]. Both are on the list of BIPs (0065 & 0112) that have been approved and implemented in blockchain protocols.


1. https://docs.lightning.engineering/the-lightning-network/multihop-payments/timelocks
This shows that is not widely used because most of the wallet doesn't have the lightning network enabled except for Binance exchange that has it, but I don't think is mostly used than the bch withdrawal options.
Anyway thanks for the clear explanation..
1+ for you
Title: Re: Do you know about BIPs?
Post by: Faisal2202 on July 19, 2024, 08:56:02 PM
Thanks for sharing this although I did read the term a lot of times and like BIP39, BIP 32 etc. But I never realized there must be some meaning to the term BIP. Well, now this short tutorial of your give me the idea that I should spend some time learning it as well.

This is actually my first time to know on BIPs and I am amazed that there is such a mechanism where people can be able to share ideas on how to make Bitcoin a lot better. Now, it would be more amazing if we can have a summary of the many BIPs that were successfully implemented that made Bitcoin more innovative, responsive and resilient as it should be. I am sure that as years will pass by, there can be new BIPs that will be subject to the discussion of the whole community.
You are right, people must be sharing new BIPs and the thing is till now I never voted for any and voted against any. I think I should vote next time if OP would share the link where these BIPs are listed for voting then it would be easier as well.

As an investor, I honestly rarely care about BIPs, even though sometimes this information can trigger a new trend in the market, such as BRC-20.
As you said such information can trigger another trend like BRC-20 then this can provide us an opportunity to make money as investors as well. So caring about BIPs might give us some advantages at some time but to be really honest I also have not come to use them a lot for investment and other things.
Title: Re: Do you know about BIPs?
Post by: NotATether on July 20, 2024, 06:58:27 AM
As an investor, I honestly rarely care about BIPs, even though sometimes this information can trigger a new trend in the market, such as BRC-20.
As you said such information can trigger another trend like BRC-20 then this can provide us an opportunity to make money as investors as well. So caring about BIPs might give us some advantages at some time but to be really honest I also have not come to use them a lot for investment and other things.

BRC20 is not a BIP lol, it was announced by some guy on twitter and doesn't even have a whitepaper.

I think it's because that the Core developers are not interested in dealing with features that don't directly concern Bitcoin, so Twitter becomes a sort of breeding ground for making extensions to Bitcoin that people *might* use - e.g. Ordinals.
Title: Re: Do you know about BIPs?
Post by: Faisal2202 on July 25, 2024, 09:57:28 PM
BRC20 is not a BIP lol, it was announced by some guy on twitter and doesn't even have a whitepaper.

I think it's because that the Core developers are not interested in dealing with features that don't directly concern Bitcoin, so Twitter becomes a sort of breeding ground for making extensions to Bitcoin that people *might* use - e.g. Ordinals.
I understand now that BRC20 tokens are not BIPs and do not have a whitepaper. Initially, I assumed that some BIPs might have started a trend leading to new investment opportunities. However, I hadn’t considered whether these BIPs actually initiated such investment trends in the past.
Title: Re: Do you know about BIPs?
Post by: Pastaral on August 26, 2024, 10:18:36 AM
BIP It usually helps improve the functionality of the Bitcoin protocol or network by suggesting a new feature, improvement or change.  BIPs help improve Bitcoin's security and scalability.
Title: Re: Do you know about BIPs?
Post by: bitterguy28 on August 26, 2024, 11:56:00 AM
You are right, people must be sharing new BIPs and the thing is till now I never voted for any and voted against any. I think I should vote next time if OP would share the link where these BIPs are listed for voting then it would be easier as well.
correct me if i a wrong but when you are only holding bitcoin there really is no need for you to actually vote from my understanding the developers will decide from which proposals should be implemented they then will basically let the miners decide if they want to implement the proposal some miners may or may not implement it the only way for the proposal to run smoothly is if all miners decided to run it
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As you said such information can trigger another trend like BRC-20 then this can provide us an opportunity to make money as investors as well. So caring about BIPs might give us some advantages at some time but to be really honest I also have not come to use them a lot for investment and other things.
they are highly technical but a bip has a chance to change or impact the way the market moves so i think even as investors it is crucial that we understand the reasons for these
Title: Re: Do you know about BIPs?
Post by: bitmover on August 27, 2024, 12:09:40 PM
Thank you for sharing this. Actually I was also seen BIP world many times on many website or the forums but I don't remember where I exactly seen that .
But it is also true that till now I was just seeing the world BIP's and I didn't know about its meaning and full form and its purpose yet. By the way in the first time after seeing the title of your thread I thought it was something Like BPIP for altcointalk  ;D
Haha 😂, lol,
BPIP for altcoinstalks would be really nice by the way, I also thought about this immediately I came across this title or topic of this thread, but being a very frequent user of the BPIP  site, I quickly remembered that one related to bitcointalk after the "B" had a "P" before the "I", while one op is talking about had a "I" immediately after the "B", so made me realize within seconds that he wasn't talking about BPIP as it related to btt.


Maybe in a few years it would make sense to have a bpip for altcoinstalks.com

The whole point of BPIP is that highly recognized bitcointalk accounts are worth something, and the recognition can be measured.

We lack some important features here such as a trust score and the karma system is way more centralized than in btt merit system (as moderators and admjn can send/remove hundreds of karma which can't be done in btt)
Title: Re: Do you know about BIPs?
Post by: Crypto Library on August 27, 2024, 09:15:53 PM
Maybe in a few years it would make sense to have a bpip for altcoinstalks.com

The whole point of BPIP is that highly recognized bitcointalk accounts are worth something, and the recognition can be measured.

We lack some important features here such as a trust score and the karma system is way more centralized than in btt merit system (as moderators and admjn can send/remove hundreds of karma which can't be done in btt)
I hope so the tool like bpip or the ninjastic.space will come here also soon. These are one kind of life saver tool on the bitcointalk.

I do data analysis on the bitcointalk forum and I can easily handle that with these sites but I could do the same here. But I didn't know yet that the moderators can send/remove hundreds of karma here!!!! 
Based on the current karma system if it make public then we will see some war on the member for the positive and the negative karma. Maybe it can be more decentralized but it's need to also customize like remove the negative karma system or make this power on the decentralized team , mod , stuffs etc.
Title: Re: Do you know about BIPs?
Post by: bitmover on August 28, 2024, 08:33:48 AM
I hope so the tool like bpip or the ninjastic.space will come here also soon. These are one kind of life saver tool on the bitcointalk.


I think PX-Z already made something close to ninjastic space. He already scraped all forum data and he created some tools there.
Title: Re: Do you know about BIPs?
Post by: Wiseman on August 28, 2024, 02:38:04 PM
For those of you who don't know, I'm sure you have seen the word recently, not here but on the news. Whether it was about Segwit or something else like that, I think it's important for you to know what they are and how they work. So let's get started.

1. A BIP stands for Bitcoin Improvement Proposal.

BIPs are created when somebody has an idea to improve the Bitcoin network. A BIP is a document with a special kind of format that explains exactly why the proposal is needed and how it will work.

2. BIPs are reviewed by the community

All BIPs are submitted to the mailing list of bitcoin-dev or on Github. That is wheve everyone else involved in Bitcoin can go check out the document and offer their opinions on it.

3. Not all BIPs are accepted

Natrually, some BIPs are rejected, for example if it is too complicated to implement, there is not a need for the BIP, or if it changes the Bitcoin protocol in a way that some people don't like.

A BIP is only accepted into the repository if and after it is agreed on by a majority of people. Around this time, it also gets a number.

I'm probably not a programmer and I don't work in this area, but I periodically read this and sometimes I don't understand, like this moment, you wrote that such changes are accepted by voting, I assume that this is done on Github, but tell me, how many people are on Github and how relevant are they to vote for all Bitcoin holders? For example, there are 10,000,000 people in the world who hold Bitcoin, but on Github 100 or 1000 people vote for some improvement, is that normal?
Title: Re: Do you know about BIPs?
Post by: Crypto Library on August 28, 2024, 06:27:52 PM
I hope so the tool like bpip or the ninjastic.space will come here also soon. These are one kind of life saver tool on the bitcointalk.


I think PX-Z already made something close to ninjastic space. He already scraped all forum data and he created some tools there.
Yeap I know about the PX-Z https://pxzone.online/altt/archive website from the beginning.
But if you notice that then here is some features are missing I mean those should be added up here also like we can filter by custom date by board and also also some others features here.
I think this will also a good idea to suggest PX-Z add those features also in the archive. Already he have been mentioned here I am going to also suggest on his official thread right now. May pxzone.online could be a alternative for ninja.space in altcointalk forum  :)
Title: Re: Do you know about BIPs?
Post by: bitmover on August 29, 2024, 10:07:51 AM

Yeap I know about the PX-Z https://pxzone.online/altt/archive website from the beginning.
But if you notice that then here is some features are missing I mean those should be added up here also like we can filter by custom date by board and also also some others features here.
I think this will also a good idea to suggest PX-Z add those features also in the archive. Already he have been mentioned here I am going to also suggest on his official thread right now. May pxzone.online could be a alternative for ninja.space in altcointalk forum  :)

I miss the search by mentioned addresses function.

This could be easily added using regex for ethereum and bitcoin like addresses. This could be a nice feature for PX-Z to add
Title: Re: Do you know about BIPs?
Post by: NotATether on August 29, 2024, 10:49:25 AM
Thank you for sharing this. Actually I was also seen BIP world many times on many website or the forums but I don't remember where I exactly seen that .
But it is also true that till now I was just seeing the world BIP's and I didn't know about its meaning and full form and its purpose yet. By the way in the first time after seeing the title of your thread I thought it was something Like BPIP for altcointalk  ;D
Haha 😂, lol,
BPIP for altcoinstalks would be really nice by the way, I also thought about this immediately I came across this title or topic of this thread, but being a very frequent user of the BPIP  site, I quickly remembered that one related to bitcointalk after the "B" had a "P" before the "I", while one op is talking about had a "I" immediately after the "B", so made me realize within seconds that he wasn't talking about BPIP as it related to btt.

I think you guys have confused "BIP" for "BPIP".


Maybe in a few years it would make sense to have a bpip for altcoinstalks.com

The whole point of BPIP is that highly recognized bitcointalk accounts are worth something, and the recognition can be measured.

We lack some important features here such as a trust score and the karma system is way more centralized than in btt merit system (as moderators and admjn can send/remove hundreds of karma which can't be done in btt)

Well since we are talking about BPIP now, I guess such a website would only make sense if you were able to scrape who had given thanks to other members, because otherwise all you have is basically just post count and that's it for the homepage.
Title: Re: Do you know about BIPs?
Post by: Crypto Library on August 29, 2024, 09:05:27 PM
I miss the search by mentioned addresses function.

This could be easily added using regex for ethereum and bitcoin like addresses. This could be a nice feature for PX-Z to add
Not only the search by the mentioned addresses function  I am also missing these functions(https://ninjastic.space/search) also on the site of PX-Z scrapper site.

I made suggestions to PX-Z official thread and he said that he have already to do these job in his list and may be he will do these after doing his current projects.  :P

And we are waiting for that, By the way it wouldn't be also bad if we saw these functions in your BDS  ;D
Title: Re: Do you know about BIPs?
Post by: |MINER| on August 29, 2024, 09:53:09 PM
Thank you for sharing this. Actually I was also seen BIP world many times on many website or the forums but I don't remember where I exactly seen that .
But it is also true that till now I was just seeing the world BIP's and I didn't know about its meaning and full form and its purpose yet. By the way in the first time after seeing the title of your thread I thought it was something Like BPIP for altcointalk  ;D
Haha 😂, lol,
BPIP for altcoinstalks would be really nice by the way, I also thought about this immediately I came across this title or topic of this thread, but being a very frequent user of the BPIP  site, I quickly remembered that one related to bitcointalk after the "B" had a "P" before the "I", while one op is talking about had a "I" immediately after the "B", so made me realize within seconds that he wasn't talking about BPIP as it related to btt.

I think you guys have confused "BIP" for "BPIP".
And I think this is not only me and the Fivestar4everMVP and the peoples who knows about the bpip.org in bitcointalk most of those also having the same confusing seen IMO.

I think you should add this "[not BPIP]" on the title , LOL joke apart.  :P
Title: Re: Do you know about BIPs?
Post by: bitmover on August 30, 2024, 09:29:29 AM

Not only the search by the mentioned addresses function  I am also missing these functions(https://ninjastic.space/search) also on the site of PX-Z scrapper site.

I made suggestions to PX-Z official thread and he said that he have already to do these job in his list and may be he will do these after doing his current projects.  :P

And we are waiting for that, By the way it wouldn't be also bad if we saw these functions in your BDS  ;D

Yeah, one important point about these projects is that they are jobbies to do in the spare time, and we barely get any rewards for doing them. The only reward is the recognizing by the community and the knowledge/experience we obtain from doing it.