Do you know about BIPs?

[ABCbits]

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Sorry to ask, can bitcoin forks be referred to as a BIP?

It depends on what you mean by fork. If you refer to fork which add new stuff (such as SegWit and Taproot), there are BIP which talk about those. But if you refer to fork which create new altcoin (such as BCH and BTG), the answer is no.

Honestly, I just found out what Bip is from your thread,
Is there any advantage to this Bip ? sorry if I asked the wrong question because I really don't know, if possible could you give me a link so I can read in detail about this Bip

Aside from what other member said, IMO it also serve as more reliable documentation for software developer out there.

[SmartGold01]

I have a simple question here and is; if this BIP is there why they don't implement the use of Lightning network? I believe it's a kind of discussion that has already being put heads together by the bitcoin technical development and up till date I never see much use of BLN being used on transaction rather most people often used bch address since it's cost efficient and confirm very easily than the other address.

[yhiaali3]

People are elected by the bitcoin community (well specifically, everyone who reads the bitcoin-dev mailing list), to the committee of BIP reviewers. In the beginning it was Luke-jr and I think a few other people, but because of inactivity, the mailing list (people in the Bitcoin organization on Github specifically) had elected new BIP reviewers a few months ago.

Are these people elected by the Bitcoin community (i.e. Bitcoin developers) only or by the Bitcoin community in the broader, all-encompassing sense? Because it smells of centralization here.

Also, if there is a disagreement about accepting or rejecting the BIP, how is the issue resolved? I mean, if there is no consensus on acceptance or rejection, how is the matter resolved?

[Kemarit]

People are elected by the bitcoin community (well specifically, everyone who reads the bitcoin-dev mailing list), to the committee of BIP reviewers. In the beginning it was Luke-jr and I think a few other people, but because of inactivity, the mailing list (people in the Bitcoin organization on Github specifically) had elected new BIP reviewers a few months ago.

Are these people elected by the Bitcoin community (i.e. Bitcoin developers) only or by the Bitcoin community in the broader, all-encompassing sense? Because it smells of centralization here.

Also, if there is a disagreement about accepting or rejecting the BIP, how is the issue resolved? I mean, if there is no consensus on acceptance or rejection, how is the matter resolved?

Yeah, there could be disagreements, and that's why they are mechanism in place. And it starts with the proposal and obviously there will be discussions, and as you have said, there could be disagreements and that after that there could be revisions that everyone will agree upon. And after that it will be reviewed again and then approval. Typical of a software process, and if you look at closely, it is decentralized and it might take at least 95% to have consensus before it is going to be implemented and then deployed.

[ABCbits]

I have a simple question here and is; if this BIP is there why they don't implement the use of Lightning network? I believe it's a kind of discussion that has already being put heads together by the bitcoin technical development and up till date I never see much use of BLN being used on transaction rather most people often used bch address since it's cost efficient and confirm very easily than the other address.

I don't fully understand your question, but BIP doesn't contain any proposal specifically about Lightning Network (LN). Besides, nobody can force anyone to use or accept LN.

[TomPluz]

This is actually my first time to know on BIPs and I am amazed that there is such a mechanism where people can be able to share ideas on how to make Bitcoin a lot better. Now, it would be more amazing if we can have a summary of the many BIPs that were successfully implemented that made Bitcoin more innovative, responsive and resilient as it should be. I am sure that as years will pass by, there can be new BIPs that will be subject to the discussion of the whole community.

[MrSpasybo]

For those of you who don't know, I'm sure you have seen the word recently, not here but on the news. Whether it was about Segwit or something else like that, I think it's important for you to know what they are and how they work. So let's get started.

1. A BIP stands for Bitcoin Improvement Proposal.

BIPs are created when somebody has an idea to improve the Bitcoin network. A BIP is a document with a special kind of format that explains exactly why the proposal is needed and how it will work.

2. BIPs are reviewed by the community

All BIPs are submitted to the mailing list of bitcoin-dev or on Github. That is wheve everyone else involved in Bitcoin can go check out the document and offer their opinions on it.

3. Not all BIPs are accepted

Natrually, some BIPs are rejected, for example if it is too complicated to implement, there is not a need for the BIP, or if it changes the Bitcoin protocol in a way that some people don't like.

A BIP is only accepted into the repository if and after it is agreed on by a majority of people. Around this time, it also gets a number.

As an investor, I honestly rarely care about BIPs, even though sometimes this information can trigger a new trend in the market, such as BRC-20.

I once planned to become a Bitcore Dev but failed because I found it difficult to focus on developing Bitcoin based on community donations. I think I can trust the decision of the entire Bitcoin community on the update and future of the network through BIPs.

[|MINER|]

Thank you for sharing this. Actually I was also seen BIP world many times on many website or the forums but I don't remember where I exactly seen that .
But it is also true that till now I was just seeing the world BIP's and I didn't know about its meaning and full form and its purpose yet. By the way in the first time after seeing the title of your thread I thought it was something Like BPIP for altcointalk 

[bitmover]

1. A BIP stands for Bitcoin Improvement Proposal.

BIPs are created when somebody has an idea to improve the Bitcoin network. A BIP is a document with a special kind of format that explains exactly why the proposal is needed and how it will work.

2. BIPs are reviewed by the community

All BIPs are submitted to the mailing list of bitcoin-dev or on Github. That is wheve everyone else involved in Bitcoin can go check out the document and offer their opinions on it.

3. Not all BIPs are accepted

Natrually, some BIPs are rejected, for example if it is too complicated to implement, there is not a need for the BIP, or if it changes the Bitcoin protocol in a way that some people don't like.

A BIP is only accepted into the repository if and after it is agreed on by a majority of people. Around this time, it also gets a number.

Just for curiosity:

Portuguese bitcointalk community participated in the BIP 39 by submiting word list in portuguese:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5273606.0


I am proud to be a contributor of this BIP
https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0039/portuguese.txt

[snowpega]

So let's get started.
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Many Thanks, buddy for providing this information as I did not see or read this term anywhere before till now. Your post adds up to my knowledge and as you are a good senior member of our community I really would like to read more threads like this from your side, maybe you have a lot of more information which I may not know. I know buddy it is a very newbie question now I am one and a half years old in the crypto space and To be very honest I am still learning.

There is a network named as lightning network so my question is that this network was also proposed by these Bips? So, what I understand from your post is that When there is a new development comes into the Bitcoin network these all proposed by BIPs, and some BIPs are rejected on the basis of their complexity for the Bitcoin network. Well! many Thanks! 

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Thank you for sharing this. Actually I was also seen BIP world many times on many website or the forums but I don't remember where I exactly seen that .
But it is also true that till now I was just seeing the world BIP's and I didn't know about its meaning and full form and its purpose yet. By the way in the first time after seeing the title of your thread I thought it was something Like BPIP for altcointalk 

Haha 😂, lol,
BPIP for altcoinstalks would be really nice by the way, I also thought about this immediately I came across this title or topic of this thread, but being a very frequent user of the BPIP  site, I quickly remembered that one related to bitcointalk after the "B" had a "P" before the "I", while one op is talking about had a "I" immediately after the "B", so made me realize within seconds that he wasn't talking about BPIP as it related to btt.

And @op, thanks very much for sharing this information here, I believe many of us have learnt something new today, though I've come across this information sometime before, but I did not understand it the way your post made me understand it today, thanks a bunch.

[giammangiato]

Just for curiosity:Portuguese bitcointalk community participated in the BIP 39 by submiting word list in portuguese:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5273606.0I am proud to be a contributor of this BIPhttps://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0039/portuguese.txt

Congratulations indeed for contributing to the Portuguese list.  I have not contributed anything other than explaining to friends and acquaintances what bitcoin is, however I never use the Italian list of words, I prefer the English one but I understand that for some it may be useful to have the seed in Italian.

[bee]

I have a simple question here and is; if this BIP is there why they don't implement the use of Lightning network?

Lightning network is a side chain solution that simply leverages existing bitcoin protocol features such as CLTV (checklock time verify) and CSV (check sequence verify)^[1]. Both are on the list of BIPs (0065 & 0112) that have been approved and implemented in blockchain protocols.


1. https://docs.lightning.engineering/the-lightning-network/multihop-payments/timelocks

[SmartGold01]

I have a simple question here and is; if this BIP is there why they don't implement the use of Lightning network? I believe it's a kind of discussion that has already being put heads together by the bitcoin technical development and up till date I never see much use of BLN being used on transaction rather most people often used bch address since it's cost efficient and confirm very easily than the other address.

I don't fully understand your question, but BIP doesn't contain any proposal specifically about Lightning Network (LN). Besides, nobody can force anyone to use or accept LN.

Is okay, I was actually having that feeling that it is related to Lightning Network since it stand for Bitcoin Improvement Proposal, I was having this thought that why this proposal don't move motion for the effectiveness of LN. But however since you said it doesn't related to it then I leave.

[bitmover]

I have a simple question here and is; if this BIP is there why they don't implement the use of Lightning network?

Lightning network is a side chain solution that simply leverages existing bitcoin protocol features such as CLTV (checklock time verify) and CSV (check sequence verify)^[1]. Both are on the list of BIPs (0065 & 0112) that have been approved and implemented in blockchain protocols.


1. https://docs.lightning.engineering/the-lightning-network/multihop-payments/timelocks

Actually, lightning network is a second layer, which is a bit different than a side chain

An example of sidechain is liquid network, which is actually another chain. Lightning network isn't.

You can read more about here
https://cointelegraph.com/learn/sidechains-vs-layer-2s-vs-appchains