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Title: Punishment for scam.
Post by: KingsDen on July 13, 2024, 12:06:59 AM
I am glad to see a reputation sub board. In the other forum, reputation is among the strongest boards. When your matter gets to reputation and you are not a good user of the forum, it takes a supreme intervention for you not to get red tags.

So, in this forum, what's the punishment for a scammer or let's say someone who's lost a matter in the reputation board. Will -ve karma do it? Let's say the person has 1000 karmas, do we need to be giving -ve karmas untill the 1000 karma is reduced to negative?
Title: Re: Punishment for scam.
Post by: PX-Z on July 13, 2024, 12:23:32 AM
So, in this forum, what's the punishment for a scammer or let's say someone who's lost a matter in the reputation board. Will -ve karma do it? Let's say the person has 1000 karmas, do we need to be giving -ve karmas untill the 1000 karma is reduced to negative?
I knew and see some users who have scammer badge or something similar and there is scam buster badge for reporters too. Also -ve karma probably, getting nuked but only higher positions can do that like admin and president, etc.
Title: Re: Punishment for scam.
Post by: KingsDen on July 13, 2024, 01:27:49 AM
So, in this forum, what's the punishment for a scammer or let's say someone who's lost a matter in the reputation board. Will -ve karma do it? Let's say the person has 1000 karmas, do we need to be giving -ve karmas untill the 1000 karma is reduced to negative?
I knew and see some users who have scammer badge or something similar and there is scam buster badge for reporters too. Also -ve karma probably, getting nuked but only higher positions can do that like admin and president, etc.
Good to know... I have never seen anyone with a scammer batch. Maybe there are no scammers here or they are not caught yet. This means that scam is actually moderated here and by admin. If someone is proven a scammer, he is given a s scammer badge. But I doubt anyone will be nuked because of scam. It's extreme, I think the BTT way is the best approach.  This could mean there's need for a feedback space in users profiles.
Title: Re: Punishment for scam.
Post by: TomPluz on July 13, 2024, 05:49:27 AM
Good to know... I have never seen anyone with a scammer batch. Maybe there are no scammers here or they are not caught yet. This means that scam is actually moderated here and by admin. If someone is proven a scammer, he is given a s scammer badge. But I doubt anyone will be nuked because of scam. It's extreme, I think the BTT way is the best approach.  This could mean there's need for a feedback space in users profiles.

Well, it can be because scammers are united in their stand that most of the users here are hard to be victimized as we are already exposed to different scams in the past and we know how to detect red flags. Most of the bad members I encountered here are plagiarists who are posting regurgitated content just to be able to post something and moderators are good in identifying those posts so they can be deleted and the posted get negative karmas. Then we also have the spammers promoting their bad programs anywhere they want to...and this is already very much controlled now because we have active people behind the scenes working to clean up the forum from malicious posts. As a moderator, I love giving away positive karmas to people who are making the effort in positing good threads and replies and I also dispensed negative  karmas for people who are not following the rules. All in all, we have to be careful with scammers as they are just waiting for the right time to punch us on our face. And yes they should be identified and be labeled as such.









Title: Re: Punishment for scam.
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on July 13, 2024, 12:21:51 PM
I am glad to see a reputation sub board. In the other forum, reputation is among the strongest boards. When your matter gets to reputation and you are not a good user of the forum, it takes a supreme intervention for you not to get red tags.

So, in this forum, what's the punishment for a scammer or let's say someone who's lost a matter in the reputation board. Will -ve karma do it? Let's say the person has 1000 karmas, do we need to be giving -ve karmas untill the 1000 karma is reduced to negative?
PX-Z seem to have answered it all, a couple of times or more, I've also come across users wit the scammer badge as px-z had explained earlier, and I think that is even more bold and better than what we see on btt where red trust is what us used to describe scammers from useful persons, most especially when it comes to newbies. Newbies can misunderstand what the red tag mean or meant, but can never misunderstand when the see a boldly written "scammer" tag posted below the user's forum name.

So, in essence, there is more than enough punishment in store on this forum, meanted for scammers.
Title: Re: Punishment for scam.
Post by: notblox1 on July 13, 2024, 02:45:04 PM
So, in this forum, what's the punishment for a scammer or let's say someone who's lost a matter in the reputation board. Will -ve karma do it? Let's say the person has 1000 karmas, do we need to be giving -ve karmas untill the 1000 karma is reduced to negative?
Rules in this forum are not so strict like in bitcointalk forum and they dont ban members so easy, but admin can give members different warning tags.
I didnt see anyone promoting any scam here in topics that I usually write, but it is better to be careful.
Title: Re: Punishment for scam.
Post by: KingsDen on July 13, 2024, 05:45:17 PM
Newbies can misunderstand what the red tag mean or meant, but can never misunderstand when the see a boldly written "scammer" tag posted below the user's forum name.
Glad to know that proven scammers are given scammer badge visible enough for everyone to see. It is a welcome development. I have never seen that, maybe I will have to look carefully this time around if I can see one.
I know that as the bull run is on the way, there'll be inflow of scam projects and innocent forum users who doesn't know how things might easily fall for them.
Title: Re: Punishment for scam.
Post by: Wiwo on July 13, 2024, 06:20:04 PM
Newbies can misunderstand what the red tag mean or meant, but can never misunderstand when the see a boldly written "scammer" tag posted below the user's forum name.
Glad to know that proven scammers are given scammer badge visible enough for everyone to see. It is a welcome development. I have never seen that, maybe I will have to look carefully this time around if I can see one.
I know that as the bull run is on the way, there'll be inflow of scam projects and innocent forum users who doesn't know how things might easily fall for them.
Yeah the forum have a good system in place for punishment of scammers, the scammer badge is much more very visible than just a red negative tag that it's until someone read the reference before knowing wether the person is red tag for scam or any other offences, much more also is the fact that scam is minimal here because pf the class pf people that are active here in the forum since the majority of us are well knowledgeable people from other places where we have experience alot of scam format and for that, is very hard for scam to swing off our asset.

Kingsden I think we still have alot of times and space to prepare and educate new members well about possible red flag projects and bull market scam attempts from fake projects and service.
Title: Re: Punishment for scam.
Post by: bitterguy28 on July 15, 2024, 01:22:49 PM
Yeah the forum have a good system in place for punishment of scammers, the scammer badge is much more very visible than just a red negative tag that it's until someone read the reference before knowing wether the person is red tag for scam or any other offences, much more also is the fact that scam is minimal here because pf the class pf people that are active here in the forum since the majority of us are well knowledgeable people from other places where we have experience alot of scam format and for that, is very hard for scam to swing off our asset.


or maybe Admin is having more looking towards this matter specially now that this forum is more active now and potential victims are here , so scammers must be more known than just a badge and negative karmas.
Title: Re: Punishment for scam.
Post by: KingsDen on July 16, 2024, 05:34:16 PM
Yeah the forum have a good system in place for punishment of scammers, the scammer badge is much more very visible than just a red negative tag that it's until someone read the reference before knowing wether the person is red tag for scam or any other offences, much more also is the fact that scam is minimal here because pf the class pf people that are active here in the forum since the majority of us are well knowledgeable people from other places where we have experience alot of scam format and for that, is very hard for scam to swing off our asset.


or maybe Admin is having more looking towards this matter specially now that this forum is more active now and potential victims are here , so scammers must be more known than just a badge and negative karmas.
@notblox1, can I make your statement to generally mean that scam is fading away because many potential victims are become so intelligent that they have known all the strategies of scammers?
OR
You meant that unlike the other forum, there are no absolute newbies here. Majority of the active users here were actually teleported as experienced other forum users.
Title: Re: Punishment for scam.
Post by: robelneo on August 13, 2024, 10:55:08 PM
So, in this forum, what's the punishment for a scammer or let's say someone who's lost a matter in the reputation board. Will -ve karma do it? Let's say the person has 1000 karmas, do we need to be giving -ve karmas untill the 1000 karma is reduced to negative?
Rules in this forum are not so strict like in bitcointalk forum and they dont ban members so easy, but admin can give members different warning tags.
I didnt see anyone promoting any scam here in topics that I usually write, but it is better to be careful.
Bold warning that tags and description about the status of the account is already good, you can easily describe the account on one look compared on Bitcointalk where you have to check the reputation, but I also want to have a feature like that, a trust rating, where members can post the member's misdeeds and the link of the deeds.
This is for awareness of member's character, but I understand that every forum has its own unique way to do that.
Title: Re: Punishment for scam.
Post by: Wiwo on August 13, 2024, 11:24:13 PM

Bold warning that tags and description about the status of the account is already good, you can easily describe the account on one look compared on Bitcointalk where you have to check the reputation, but I also want to have a feature like that, a trust rating, where members can post the member's misdeeds and the link of the deeds.
This is for awareness of member's character, but I understand that every forum has its own unique way to do that.
Considering how centralised this forum tries to be, where everything depends on the admin, there may be difficulties in implementing such features as trust rating systems, and forum the experience on other forums, how the trust system have been hijacked and abused, I think taking a while before giving such power to individuals forum members will have to go through several considerations.

But all the whole altcoinstalks.com forum system is OK and good, and we hope to get more improvement, as the forum keep growing and gaining popularity among crypto communities.
Title: Re: Punishment for scam.
Post by: bitterguy28 on August 15, 2024, 07:35:30 AM
Rules in this forum are not so strict like in bitcointalk forum and they dont ban members so easy, but admin can give members different warning tags.
surely if a user ends up having too much warnings, there should be banned already because if a warning does not prevent them from spreading misinformation and attempts of scams then there is no other choice but to have him leave the forum
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I didnt see anyone promoting any scam here in topics that I usually write, but it is better to be careful.
i agree in my time here i have not really seen much spams that could potentially be harmful to anyone who interacts with the links and/or posts of a user
Title: Re: Punishment for scam.
Post by: Findingnemo on August 15, 2024, 04:29:07 PM
Rules in this forum are not so strict like in bitcointalk forum and they dont ban members so easy, but admin can give members different warning tags.
surely if a user ends up having too much warnings, there should be banned already because if a warning does not prevent them from spreading misinformation and attempts of scams then there is no other choice but to have him leave the forum
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I didnt see anyone promoting any scam here in topics that I usually write, but it is better to be careful.
i agree in my time here i have not really seen much spams that could potentially be harmful to anyone who interacts with the links and/or posts of a user

Here, things are bit different than bitcointalk. People get penalty and some of them can be lifted by paying fee or burning ALTT but their perks like giving Karma will not longer available for them and for habitual offenders tags will be issued and for plagiarism Ban but due to the evolution of AI identifying plagiarism is becoming difficult but they just post nonsense crap everytime so they will achieve nothing by posting AI contents and sooner when AI buster starts hunting then they will be banned too.
Title: Re: Punishment for scam.
Post by: Asiska02 on August 19, 2024, 12:06:27 AM
So, in this forum, what's the punishment for a scammer or let's say someone who's lost a matter in the reputation board. Will -ve karma do it? Let's say the person has 1000 karmas, do we need to be giving -ve karmas untill the 1000 karma is reduced to negative?
I knew and see some users who have scammer badge or something similar and there is scam buster badge for reporters too. Also -ve karma probably, getting nuked but only higher positions can do that like admin and president, etc.

I haven’t come across any scammer with the scammer badge, or maybe I’ve not yet interacted in the board where users which such tags are being discussed, I mean the reputation board. I would love to see a user tagged with the scammer badge to see how it really looks like. I think the badge is much better since it’s said to be bold and written clearly for anyone to come across and see. A forum without rules for scammers will become a place for more scammers to reside in, it is good penalties are being taken on them after scrutiny.
Title: Re: Punishment for scam.
Post by: PX-Z on August 19, 2024, 12:26:13 AM
I haven’t come across any scammer with the scammer badge, or maybe I’ve not yet interacted in the board where users which such tags are being discussed, I mean the reputation board. I would love to see a user tagged with the scammer badge to see how it really looks like.
You can check this thread by a
reported scammer https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=320090.0 and there is a "Scam badge" and included on "additional" group of "Scammer" on its profile, the user was reported on this thread [scam] AidenWeb3 malicious job offers (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=320123.0)
Title: Re: Punishment for scam.
Post by: Cryptsafe on September 07, 2024, 06:41:13 PM
So far my stay here on this platform, I have not really seen any much complaint about scam activities by members to have been scammed by anybody here but I have seen lots of tag to account profiles which are visible and clear to see. The admin is up and doing to his task in monitoring activities and engagements. Aside plagiarism and AI, I barely see a case of scam accusation and other crime threatening situations here which means that the platform is very much secured enough that nobody could do any ill act and get away with it so easily.
Title: Re: Punishment for scam.
Post by: dragononcrypto on September 07, 2024, 10:03:02 PM
So far my stay here on this platform, I have not really seen any much complaint about scam activities by members to have been scammed by anybody here but I have seen lots of tag to account profiles which are visible and clear to see. The admin is up and doing to his task in monitoring activities and engagements. Aside plagiarism and AI, I barely see a case of scam accusation and other crime threatening situations here which means that the platform is very much secured enough that nobody could do any ill act and get away with it so easily.

Credit should also go to the judges here, not just admin. Admin plays his part but otherwise judges have been delegated with labelling users as scammers. Global mods otherwise do not have this authority, predominantly because it's not a moderation issue. It otherwise seems like compared to recent years there are generally less scammers that have arrived at this forum attempting to scam users, potentially due the consequence of being labelled a scammer I'd like to think.
Title: Re: Punishment for scam.
Post by: BitMaxz on September 07, 2024, 10:21:19 PM
For now, the forum is clean from scammer's mods and the admin reacted immediately when someone reported a scammer when it proves that person is a scammer you'll notice the scammer badge or anything related to suspicious membership.

I haven’t come across any scammer with the scammer badge, or maybe I’ve not yet interacted in the board where users which such tags are being discussed, I mean the reputation board. I would love to see a user tagged with the scammer badge to see how it really looks like. I think the badge is much better since it’s said to be bold and written clearly for anyone to come across and see. A forum without rules for scammers will become a place for more scammers to reside in, it is good penalties are being taken on them after scrutiny.
PX-z already pointed out the badge and what it looks like but that's not the only badge for "Suspicious Membership Groups" You need to check this thread below to see all badges at least you learn about all badges, meanings, and what it looks like.

- https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=180760.0
Title: Re: Punishment for scam.
Post by: SamReomo on September 08, 2024, 09:38:35 AM
Good to know that scammers get tag here by the administration team. On other forums most scammers are tagged by the members not by the administration team. The reputation board is going to be a really useful one to report such scammers.
Title: Re: Punishment for scam.
Post by: hugeblack on September 08, 2024, 07:40:54 PM
I think most of us don't know very well how the court works but during the short time we have been here most of the complaints have been dealt with. The real test will be if the number of users increases and how the judges are chosen.
BTW it is nice to see PX-Z as D.team
Title: Re: Punishment for scam.
Post by: dragononcrypto on September 08, 2024, 07:48:22 PM
I think most of us don't know very well how the court works but during the short time we have been here most of the complaints have been dealt with. The real test will be if the number of users increases and how the judges are chosen.

Judges have been elected by senators in the past and have otherwise been appointed by president/admin. Potentially the senate would become responsible again for electing new judges in the future if required. With 4 judges at present I think this is sufficient, the forum has been busier and survived on less Judges before, and generally the forum court isn't that busy.
Title: Re: Punishment for scam.
Post by: albon on September 26, 2024, 10:30:17 PM
Newbies can misunderstand what the red tag mean or meant, but can never misunderstand when the see a boldly written "scammer" tag posted below the user's forum name.
Glad to know that proven scammers are given scammer badge visible enough for everyone to see. It is a welcome development. I have never seen that, maybe I will have to look carefully this time around if I can see one.
I know that as the bull run is on the way, there'll be inflow of scam projects and innocent forum users who doesn't know how things might easily fall for them.
We are optimistic enough to see such a development. Since there is no barrier for members of this forum where anyone can easily identify a scammer. So many people are getting the opportunity to scam from here, so all these things have to be considered. We always respect the activities of the admin and would like to see some new development activities as well. We cannot discount a scammer easily so we always want no one to become a victim of scamming.
Title: Re: Punishment for scam.
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on October 09, 2024, 10:10:20 PM
I am glad to see a reputation sub board. In the other forum, reputation is among the strongest boards. When your matter gets to reputation and you are not a good user of the forum, it takes a supreme intervention for you not to get red tags.

So, in this forum, what's the punishment for a scammer or let's say someone who's lost a matter in the reputation board. Will -ve karma do it? Let's say the person has 1000 karmas, do we need to be giving -ve karmas untill the 1000 karma is reduced to negative?

We can from our own end try to give a negative karma on such users, because we have them like that in numbers who don't care of what others might be passing through from their actions, while from the forum end, they can make the necessary judge over such case after being reported to them, its what i can also advise more that we should always seek to know more than relenting one one idea about scam and the forum.
Title: Re: Punishment for scam.
Post by: Agbe on October 19, 2024, 08:30:53 PM
Credit should also go to the judges here, not just admin. Admin plays his part but otherwise judges have been delegated with labelling users as scammers. Global mods otherwise do not have this authority, predominantly because it's not a moderation issue. It otherwise seems like compared to recent years there are generally less scammers that have arrived at this forum attempting to scam users, potentially due the consequence of being labelled a scammer I'd like to think.
I was looking for one of the pioneers in the forum to answer  the question and here you here. I appreciate your respond. The forum is still on the developing stage and I believed time will come that specific public forum participants will also have the right to tag those fraudulent users.