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Title: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Captain Corporate on July 21, 2024, 08:39:22 PM
I remember that there was a topic about this here, but I tried and couldn't find it, maybe I remember the other website and not this one. In the end, this is going to be one of the most wagered thing in the world, and I wanted to have a topic here as well.

Today, Biden has announced that he will not be going for reelection, I personally do not remember the last time when we had two candidates surely, the elections in November so in last like 3 months or so, one of the candidates steps back. I am sure it has happened many times in history before, just not in the recent years as far as I can remember.

While I do agree that Biden not being a candidate is good, because he is too old and people will not be willing to vote for him. I also think that whoever goes against Trump, and an assassination attempted one, will be just going against him to lose. There isn't a single name that comes to mind that can beat Trump, Obama could have, easily, but he can't be nominated. I do not think that dems have any name that can turn this, its as good as over in my mind.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: electronicash on July 22, 2024, 09:51:53 PM

even if Biden endorse Harris, she isn't going to win either. the liberals have made it sure years ago that Harris will not stand out and not win in case she runs as president.  now they desperately needed a candidate and couldn't find one.

why not Hillary by the way, she seem to have been trying many times in the past, and now that they need someone that can actually make more votes than Harris, she should be an option.  or is it unconstitutional to not appoint Harris because she is the vice right?
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: JoyMarsha on July 22, 2024, 10:58:50 PM

even if Biden endorse Harris, she isn't going to win either. the liberals have made it sure years ago that Harris will not stand out and not win in case she runs as president.  now they desperately needed a candidate and couldn't find one.

why not Hillary by the way, she seem to have been trying many times in the past, and now that they need someone that can actually make more votes than Harris, she should be an option.  or is it unconstitutional to not appoint Harris because she is the vice right?
I don't know why the Democrats are too quick to announce Harris as a better replacement for Biden. Never will Harris be a match for Trump. Trump has already stated that the weak Biden is a strong candidate when compared with Harris. You can imagine, that no way for Harris in the November election.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Captain Corporate on July 22, 2024, 11:04:35 PM
The mistake comes from the understanding that Harris is a "good choice by dems" thinking. Nobody believes that, well not a lot of people at least. The idea is this; there is very limited time left, Biden "can't" be a president anymore, his health doesn't allow him, which makes you or I or anyone a better suited president, because we at least have our cognitive health. Wheras, Harris may not be "liked", she at least can speak clearly, literally the minimum requirement. So that makes her a better candidate from Biden already, not because she is "better", but because Biden is literally incapable. Secondly, if we were to talk about why not someone else? Well Harris already put her hat in the ring, whereas others are seeing this as a loss cause, which means that, if they try to be a candidate, or even become one, they will most likely lose. So why not pick someone like Harris, who everyone expects to lose, on an unwinnable election? So that you can pick someone better, like Whitmar, or Newsom, on an election that they may win?
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: target on July 22, 2024, 11:20:10 PM

People know Harris is part of the administration that made this year worse in history. The dems are already about to go down and people sees the economic crisis to be admins fault. Whosoever they endorse is make no difference, it will jist be a wrong time for her/him to be on that spot.

Just let Trump win and inherit the tragic result of what Biden did. Maybe they can win the next election.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: pawel7777 on July 22, 2024, 11:33:00 PM
The most likely Democrat nominee will be Kamala Harris, and I don't think she has any organic support, i.e. people rallying for what she stands for. Her only support will be negative Trump voters, but that might not be enough.
Democrats would have to come up with some sort of believable breaking news about Trump being an existential threat to democracy and USA to scare enough people and mobilise them to show up and vote against him. But they overplayed their hand already and with the recent assassination attempt, any attacks on him would make the Democrats look like the bad guys.
That being said, I've no idea how fraud-proof the US voting system is. We've heard reports of people receiving multiple postal vote forms, about dead people casting votes etc. If it's easy to abuse, anything is possible.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: electronicash on July 23, 2024, 09:58:13 PM

even if Biden endorse Harris, she isn't going to win either. the liberals have made it sure years ago that Harris will not stand out and not win in case she runs as president.  now they desperately needed a candidate and couldn't find one.

why not Hillary by the way, she seem to have been trying many times in the past, and now that they need someone that can actually make more votes than Harris, she should be an option.  or is it unconstitutional to not appoint Harris because she is the vice right?
I don't know why the Democrats are too quick to announce Harris as a better replacement for Biden. Never will Harris be a match for Trump. Trump has already stated that the weak Biden is a strong candidate when compared with Harris. You can imagine, that no way for Harris in the November election.

it could be because they don't really have plans to win. after all its the worse time to become a leader when people are becoming more unsatisfied and almost about to run out of patience about what the government is doing.

whoever Harris will chose is probably not willingly trying to win as well. they all probably just looking away by now and just let Harris be alone unless they are happy to inherit the damage that the previous government has done.

around the world, they already acknowledge Trump as the president. just let the man be the president since he wants to and see what he could do.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Sim_card on July 23, 2024, 10:28:46 PM

even if Biden endorse Harris, she isn't going to win either. the liberals have made it sure years ago that Harris will not stand out and not win in case she runs as president.  now they desperately needed a candidate and couldn't find one.

why not Hillary by the way, she seem to have been trying many times in the past, and now that they need someone that can actually make more votes than Harris, she should be an option.  or is it unconstitutional to not appoint Harris because she is the vice right?
I don't know why the Democrats are too quick to announce Harris as a better replacement for Biden. Never will Harris be a match for Trump. Trump has already stated that the weak Biden is a strong candidate when compared with Harris. You can imagine, that no way for Harris in the November election.
I agree with Trump that Biden was the best match for him but now that Biden old age is affecting him mentally, I think that the Democrat have failed the presidential election to the Republicans. This is because Trump have more people in his side and they are not willing to leave him for Harris. She might be their best option but not the best option when Trum is the race.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Harkorede on July 23, 2024, 11:06:29 PM

even if Biden endorse Harris, she isn't going to win either. the liberals have made it sure years ago that Harris will not stand out and not win in case she runs as president.  now they desperately needed a candidate and couldn't find one.

why not Hillary by the way, she seem to have been trying many times in the past, and now that they need someone that can actually make more votes than Harris, she should be an option.  or is it unconstitutional to not appoint Harris because she is the vice right?
I don't know why the Democrats are too quick to announce Harris as a better replacement for Biden. Never will Harris be a match for Trump. Trump has already stated that the weak Biden is a strong candidate when compared with Harris. You can imagine, that no way for Harris in the November election.
I agree with Trump that Biden was the best match for him but now that Biden old age is affecting him mentally, I think that the Democrat have failed the presidential election to the Republicans. This is because Trump have more people in his side and they are not willing to leave him for Harris. She might be their best option but not the best option when Trum is the race.

I have not been very heavy on political discussion, but I have been monitoring the USA 2024 Presidential Elections odds movement for quite a while now even with Bidden in power, when the odds were out and Trump was declared an apparently valid contestant, Trump have been the slight favorite according to the sportsbook I do make use of, and that was surprising to me given they amount of controversy that have been surrounding Trump including a raid by security agent in his home, and then his child and himself having a case in court, I expected those factor to be highly detrimental to his chances, but never seemed to be.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: pawel7777 on July 23, 2024, 11:20:48 PM
I think bookies no longer see Trump as strong of a favourite as he was some time ago. The payout rate for his win increased from something like x1.45 (quoting from memory) to the current x1.53.
According to the oddsmakers, he's still more likely to win, but they seem to be thinking that literally anyone would give him a better fight than Biden.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: electronicash on July 23, 2024, 11:42:32 PM
i just checked the Stake odd and Kamala Harris actually drawing closer to the race.


even if Biden endorse Harris, she isn't going to win either. the liberals have made it sure years ago that Harris will not stand out and not win in case she runs as president.  now they desperately needed a candidate and couldn't find one.

why not Hillary by the way, she seem to have been trying many times in the past, and now that they need someone that can actually make more votes than Harris, she should be an option.  or is it unconstitutional to not appoint Harris because she is the vice right?
I don't know why the Democrats are too quick to announce Harris as a better replacement for Biden. Never will Harris be a match for Trump. Trump has already stated that the weak Biden is a strong candidate when compared with Harris. You can imagine, that no way for Harris in the November election.
I agree with Trump that Biden was the best match for him but now that Biden old age is affecting him mentally, I think that the Democrat have failed the presidential election to the Republicans. This is because Trump have more people in his side and they are not willing to leave him for Harris. She might be their best option but not the best option when Trum is the race.

I have not been very heavy on political discussion, but I have been monitoring the USA 2024 Presidential Elections odds movement for quite a while now even with Bidden in power, when the odds were out and Trump was declared an apparently valid contestant, Trump have been the slight favorite according to the sportsbook I do make use of, and that was surprising to me given they amount of controversy that have been surrounding Trump including a raid by security agent in his home, and then his child and himself having a case in court, I expected those factor to be highly detrimental to his chances, but never seemed to be.

some of his case are actually dismissed by the federal judge especially that classified docs. the presidential election been followed all over the world since what goes on in US affects the politics  in the national level in other countries and mine is just one.

the local news is even flashing what is happening in the US election including what Joe did such as quitting the race and giving it to Harris. now it looks like he isn't the president anymore and rumor is that Joe is dead.

Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: famososMuertos on July 24, 2024, 05:26:16 AM
This is only about hope in the minimal idea of ​​winning, which did not exist with Biden, after all the trouble he got into because of his advanced age.

So, this last minute change means a new approach to the campaign, that allows us to glimpse the electoral future, not only to the fact of electing a president but also to other political positions.

By the way, Kamala managed to raise more than 60 million dollars in just 24 hours, that had not happened before.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: notblox1 on July 24, 2024, 01:39:20 PM
I am sure odds on Trump is going to get lower as election day comes closer, but they can always select someone else to be a president.
When I look at all the candidates they are all a joke and actors, dont forget that Trump has a carrier in acting and WWE.
It is all just one big movie show





Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Kemarit on July 24, 2024, 03:03:05 PM
This is only about hope in the minimal idea of ​​winning, which did not exist with Biden, after all the trouble he got into because of his advanced age.

So, this last minute change means a new approach to the campaign, that allows us to glimpse the electoral future, not only to the fact of electing a president but also to other political positions.

By the way, Kamala managed to raise more than 60 million dollars in just 24 hours, that had not happened before.

Not sure if she has want it takes to overcome Trump right now as she is still behind and underdog in the betting. But we really can't understand this politics though, maybe today Trump is leading, just like when Hillary as well during this time against Trump. But in the last days, Trump was able to swing everything in this favor and it was a shock that Hillary lost and she could have made history.

But then again, with Kamala, it will be history again and Donald Trump is the one going to stop that? We will see because if the election happens today, then surely he will get the nod and will be re-elected.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Gurujebs on July 24, 2024, 03:42:44 PM
While I do agree that Biden not being a candidate is good, because he is too old and people will not be willing to vote for him. I also think that whoever goes against Trump, and an assassination attempted one, will be just going against him to lose. There isn't a single name that comes to mind that can beat Trump, Obama could have, easily, but he can't be nominated. I do not think that dems have any name that can turn this, its as good as over in my mind.

If I'm to bet between any candidates since Biden will not be running for the new election, I will go with Trump 100% because he seems to be on the lead even by mere looking at what has happened in the last few days, he seems to be everywhere and even people that hated him back in the days for his mischievous comments has love him because of that assassination attempt.

However, if I have the opportunity to pick between Trump and perhaps Biden, I would t choose any of them, they have nothing to offer American than the usual lies and deceit of people, the system is just monopoly of democracy between two parties.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: babo on July 24, 2024, 03:47:29 PM
By the way, Kamala managed to raise more than 60 million dollars in just 24 hours, that had not happened before.

All those who hate Trump have donated, they don't want him in government and therefore they put their hands in their wallets to prevent it from happening.
I would say normal!
We need to see if this flow of donations stops now, in my opinion yes.. this flow go down to zero.
In any case, campaigning based on insults is truly pitiful.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Zed0X on July 24, 2024, 04:20:37 PM
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I don't know why the Democrats are too quick to announce Harris as a better replacement for Biden
I mean the election for the POTUS is just over 3 months away. Do you think they can still prepare someone else to compete against Trump? Anyway, it wouldn't matter who they will choose since  I think most Americans still don't like the policies of the Democrats.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Lucius on July 24, 2024, 04:35:29 PM
As things stand, it seems that Trump has become some kind of crypto messiah considering the results of the survey, which only means that there are a lot of people who are easily deceived into thinking that there is some truth in what he says. I can still understand that Americans persistently support their candidates, whether they are Republicans or Democrats, but for the rest of the world it is very strange that they support Trump, especially for people in Europe who know that a vote for Trump is a vote for the green light for Russian aggression not only to Ukraine, but also to some other countries.

I sincerely hope that he does not win, but even if he does, I sincerely doubt that he will admit defeat and that blood will not flow in the streets again. Still, bad news for Trump supporters, because only a few days after Joe went to his well-deserved retirement, the results show that Trump is no longer in the lead.

Quote from: https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/07/23/harris-leads-trump-new-poll/74516342007/
The Reuters/Ipsos poll, conducted between July 22 and July 23, found Harris leading Trump 44% to 42% among registered voters. Five percent of voters said they would support some other candidate, 4% said they wouldn’t vote and 4% said they didn’t know. The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus three percentage points.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: giammangiato on July 24, 2024, 04:41:06 PM
I honestly bet on Trump, the fact of his attempted assassination with the attack he received made him almost a hero and the fact that he survived this makes him stronger politically.
Biden torpedoed and a new candidate so halfway through the race smells like defeat to me.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: JunaidAzizi on July 24, 2024, 07:56:00 PM
I remember that there was a topic about this here, but I tried and couldn't find it, maybe I remember the other website and not this one. In the end, this is going to be one of the most wagered thing in the world, and I wanted to have a topic here as well.
Trump has great chances of winning the upcoming presidential election. The first reason is that his policies are very valuable not only for the USA but also for other countries, and there is no stronger candidate who can defeat Trump. The second reason is the assassination attempt, which has also created a great hype, and people will love him more because of it. Biden is getting older, and his policies towards other countries are also becoming harder, so I think the people of the USA want Trump. Additionally, Trump has a business mindset, which is also good for cryptocurrencies.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: electronicash on July 24, 2024, 09:42:20 PM
I honestly bet on Trump, the fact of his attempted assassination with the attack he received made him almost a hero and the fact that he survived this makes him stronger politically.
Biden torpedoed and a new candidate so halfway through the race smells like defeat to me.

some are saying Biden was already dead. so the assassination attempt backfired and it was him that's dead. not sure if its true but his resignation of this race is already a defeat not just to him reelection but to the democrats, leaving it all to Harris is like quitting the presidency. and since then he hasn't been seen live in any press conference.

the investigation o this assassination is probably one of the most damning tale for Joe's campaign which i guess, quitting the race is just like admitting he will be losing the election. kamala isn't popular as well, so its a loss for the liberals as well.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: armanda90 on July 24, 2024, 10:30:14 PM
some are saying Biden was already dead. so the assassination attempt backfired and it was him that's dead. not sure if its true but his resignation of this race is already a defeat not just to him reelection but to the democrats, leaving it all to Harris is like quitting the presidency. and since then he hasn't been seen live in any press conference.

the investigation o this assassination is probably one of the most damning tale for Joe's campaign which i guess, quitting the race is just like admitting he will be losing the election. kamala isn't popular as well, so its a loss for the liberals as well.
Finally Joe Bidden withdrew him self as US president candidate after huge pressure with rumor linked him not on healthy condition, but I don't sure controversial made by Joe Bidden until make him leaving his dreaming to win US election campaign and become president back to back.
The race of US president election campaign keep interested with Donald Trump fight Kamala Harris, its the first thing with US president competitor as the women but not sure yet will be difficult fight for Donald Trump with his reputation grow up after last week incident?
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Baofeng on July 24, 2024, 10:42:34 PM
some are saying Biden was already dead. so the assassination attempt backfired and it was him that's dead. not sure if its true but his resignation of this race is already a defeat not just to him reelection but to the democrats, leaving it all to Harris is like quitting the presidency. and since then he hasn't been seen live in any press conference.

the investigation o this assassination is probably one of the most damning tale for Joe's campaign which i guess, quitting the race is just like admitting he will be losing the election. kamala isn't popular as well, so its a loss for the liberals as well.
Finally Joe Bidden withdrew him self as US president candidate after huge pressure with rumor linked him not on healthy condition, but I don't sure controversial made by Joe Bidden until make him leaving his dreaming to win US election campaign and become president back to back.
The race of US president election campaign keep interested with Donald Trump fight Kamala Harris, its the first thing with US president competitor as the women but not sure yet will be difficult fight for Donald Trump with his reputation grow up after last week incident?

I think it's a good move as Trump is leading him in the polls, like he was behind 2-3 points. So he made a big sacrifice here to step down and then let his VP take care of Trump.

But not sure if Kamala Harris has want to takes to make history in the US right now. She is also behind Trump in the polls and as far as betting goes, Trump is 1.5x against Kamala who's 2.3x. And Trump using crypto in his platform might be a good idea as crypto enthusiast voters in the US might sway to him to win.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Harkorede on July 24, 2024, 11:09:55 PM
This is only about hope in the minimal idea of ​​winning, which did not exist with Biden, after all the trouble he got into because of his advanced age.

So, this last minute change means a new approach to the campaign, that allows us to glimpse the electoral future, not only to the fact of electing a president but also to other political positions.

By the way, Kamala managed to raise more than 60 million dollars in just 24 hours, that had not happened before.

Not sure if she has want it takes to overcome Trump right now as she is still behind and underdog in the betting. But we really can't understand this politics though, maybe today Trump is leading, just like when Hillary as well during this time against Trump. But in the last days, Trump was able to swing everything in this favor and it was a shock that Hillary lost and she could have made history.

But then again, with Kamala, it will be history again and Donald Trump is the one going to stop that? We will see because if the election happens today, then surely he will get the nod and will be re-elected.

I also completely agree that Donald Trump is the clear favorite right now, except of there is still a certain number of possible scenarios that could alter the tide against him to as well, and more so I believe the biggest threat he could have had was Joe Biden, and Biden dropping out is almost making it seem like unanimous decision that'd see Trump win. Yes, if the election does hold today, there is literally nothing that could stop Trump from being POTUS yet again.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on July 24, 2024, 11:45:08 PM
I honestly bet on Trump, the fact of his attempted assassination with the attack he received made him almost a hero and the fact that he survived this makes him stronger politically.
Biden torpedoed and a new candidate so halfway through the race smells like defeat to me.

some are saying Biden was already dead. so the assassination attempt backfired and it was him that's dead. not sure if its true but his resignation of this race is already a defeat not just to him reelection but to the democrats, leaving it all to Harris is like quitting the presidency. and since then he hasn't been seen live in any press conference.

the investigation o this assassination is probably one of the most damning tale for Joe's campaign which i guess, quitting the race is just like admitting he will be losing the election. kamala isn't popular as well, so its a loss for the liberals as well.

According to this, seeing it from a very external point of view since I am not an American citizen, I see that the USA is highly politicized. Previously, politics in the USA was important to the extent that it did not affect each thing, each process. Unfortunately, I see that they are affecting everything, the economy, the important processes, and that is bad. No one and nothing should be affected by the assassination attempts. All those dark things should not exist because of power. I sincerely believe that Trump has already gained too much advantage over any political rival to him.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Lucius on July 25, 2024, 03:21:27 PM
~snip~
But not sure if Kamala Harris has want to takes to make history in the US right now. She is also behind Trump in the polls and as far as betting goes, Trump is 1.5x against Kamala who's 2.3x. And Trump using crypto in his platform might be a good idea as crypto enthusiast voters in the US might sway to him to win.


Not reading the posts? Just a few posts ago I quoted part of an article from the latest poll showing Harris leading 44% to 42%. I believe that this percentage will increase in the coming months, so even though a good part of Americans will continue to support Trump, I hope that the reasonable and moderate ones will prevail.

My money is on Harris.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: giammangiato on July 25, 2024, 05:41:05 PM
some are saying Biden was already dead. so the assassination attempt backfired and it was him ...
Suggestive and very interesting hypothesis, where did you read this if I may ask?  I am not doubting that you read this, just to understand and also make considerations about the source who said this fact.  If you can find it, it would be a great pleasure for me.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: notblox1 on July 25, 2024, 06:38:05 PM
I honestly bet on Trump, the fact of his attempted assassination with the attack he received made him almost a hero and the fact that he survived this makes him stronger politically.
Biden torpedoed and a new candidate so halfway through the race smells like defeat to me.
Show us proof please  ;)
This all looks like a terrible b movie with a stupid story  ;D
I dont believe anything they are saying for Biden, Kamala or Trump, but they are doing their best in their acting roles.
They are already preparing with new war with Iran as their master commanded, so it doesnt really matter who gets most votes in elections.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: electronicash on July 25, 2024, 08:25:19 PM
some are saying Biden was already dead. so the assassination attempt backfired and it was him ...
Suggestive and very interesting hypothesis, where did you read this if I may ask?  I am not doubting that you read this, just to understand and also make considerations about the source who said this fact.  If you can find it, it would be a great pleasure for me.

i don't think i can track this but you can find it all in social media, they even have a #WhereIsJoe #WhereIsBiden which i believe you can find hundreds to thousands of these posts that still flowing, i can still see the latest https://x.com/skiptheviolence/status/1816339309542400090


I honestly bet on Trump, the fact of his attempted assassination with the attack he received made him almost a hero and the fact that he survived this makes him stronger politically.
Biden torpedoed and a new candidate so halfway through the race smells like defeat to me.
Show us proof please  ;)
This all looks like a terrible b movie with a stupid story  ;D
I dont believe anything they are saying for Biden, Kamala or Trump, but they are doing their best in their acting roles.
They are already preparing with new war with Iran as their master commanded, so it doesnt really matter who gets most votes in elections.

war still gonna come even if its Joe right?
being a president doesn't really mean the president decides for all. this is why its convenient for the, to have Biden as president because the old man already is brain dead. Trump however will have a lot of question before the deep state could force to do something.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Captain Corporate on July 25, 2024, 08:58:43 PM
People who are saying that Joe Biden is dead and that's the reason why he pulled out, are just making a narrative so that the could give Trump some more time, that's it. Its obvious that he is not ,and I am sure that even if he doesn't well enough, he eventually will, and all of this will end .They did the same thing with Kate Middleton as well, said she was dead, and turns out she was battling cancer, last thing anyone needs during that time for media and tableoids to come to attack where you are. Biden will show up eventually, and everyone will calm down, well not everyone, people who "he is not that tall!! this is fake mask!!!" will end up trying more, but nobody will ever care lol.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Gurujebs on July 25, 2024, 09:16:56 PM
some are saying Biden was already dead. so the assassination attempt backfired and it was him ...
Suggestive and very interesting hypothesis, where did you read this if I may ask?  I am not doubting that you read this, just to understand and also make considerations about the source who said this fact.  If you can find it, it would be a great pleasure for me.

Politics they say is a dirty game and everyone are ready to play dirty just to looks as good candidate as possible and then make people see the other as the bad people and that's exactly what's happening in US right now. There officiall debate looks more like saying bad words to each other just to make a cheap score.

Apparently, Trump was attempted to be shot and survive and he used the opportunity to become more popular and more people endorsement and in return they are spreading bad comments for Biden to be dead. This was same Trump they all hated last 8 years ago.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: electronicash on July 25, 2024, 09:56:28 PM
some are saying Biden was already dead. so the assassination attempt backfired and it was him ...
Suggestive and very interesting hypothesis, where did you read this if I may ask?  I am not doubting that you read this, just to understand and also make considerations about the source who said this fact.  If you can find it, it would be a great pleasure for me.

Politics they say is a dirty game and everyone are ready to play dirty just to looks as good candidate as possible and then make people see the other as the bad people and that's exactly what's happening in US right now. There officiall debate looks more like saying bad words to each other just to make a cheap score.

Apparently, Trump was attempted to be shot and survive and he used the opportunity to become more popular and more people endorsement and in return they are spreading bad comments for Biden to be dead. This was same Trump they all hated last 8 years ago.

8 years of hate i guess that kid if he indeed been hating Trump for 8 years, i guess he had have enough.  if only Trump died, the GOP will have no one such a popular person that speaks in the Bitcoin conference. Kamala declined which i think she really isn't up to win as well. she was just there to replaced Joe but have no plans to win.

betting for kamala on bookmakers is not going ot make you win but the odds for kamala is getting better actually. not sure whats going on. but because funds are flooding to her Trump accuses her of laundering. talking about dirty politics.


https://www.isidewith.com/discuss/5220238137
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/kamala-harris-smashes-fundraising-record-stunning-81-million-112178480
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on July 26, 2024, 12:27:01 AM
some are saying Biden was already dead. so the assassination attempt backfired and it was him ...
Suggestive and very interesting hypothesis, where did you read this if I may ask?  I am not doubting that you read this, just to understand and also make considerations about the source who said this fact.  If you can find it, it would be a great pleasure for me.

Politics they say is a dirty game and everyone are ready to play dirty just to looks as good candidate as possible and then make people see the other as the bad people and that's exactly what's happening in US right now. There officiall debate looks more like saying bad words to each other just to make a cheap score.

Apparently, Trump was attempted to be shot and survive and he used the opportunity to become more popular and more people endorsement and in return they are spreading bad comments for Biden to be dead. This was same Trump they all hated last 8 years ago.
I share what you say, politics is really like that, sometimes it is very dirty, I say sometimes, but I think it is all the time, I consider that now what is being generated in the USA is a great Speculation with respect to its politicians, and it is a shame, because basically those who are involved in this are people who are human above all, and whatever it is, it is wrong, an attack is Wrong, and if someone put on a whole circus to make believe that they were going to kill him, then that is very wrong, I prefer to think with a little more sanity and say that they did try to kill Trump , and with what happened to Biden, well, I do believe them that he could even be a Robot.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Baofeng on July 26, 2024, 05:47:32 AM
some are saying Biden was already dead. so the assassination attempt backfired and it was him ...
Suggestive and very interesting hypothesis, where did you read this if I may ask?  I am not doubting that you read this, just to understand and also make considerations about the source who said this fact.  If you can find it, it would be a great pleasure for me.

Politics they say is a dirty game and everyone are ready to play dirty just to looks as good candidate as possible and then make people see the other as the bad people and that's exactly what's happening in US right now. There officiall debate looks more like saying bad words to each other just to make a cheap score.

Apparently, Trump was attempted to be shot and survive and he used the opportunity to become more popular and more people endorsement and in return they are spreading bad comments for Biden to be dead. This was same Trump they all hated last 8 years ago.
I share what you say, politics is really like that, sometimes it is very dirty, I say sometimes, but I think it is all the time, I consider that now what is being generated in the USA is a great Speculation with respect to its politicians, and it is a shame, because basically those who are involved in this are people who are human above all, and whatever it is, it is wrong, an attack is Wrong, and if someone put on a whole circus to make believe that they were going to kill him, then that is very wrong, I prefer to think with a little more sanity and say that they did try to kill Trump , and with what happened to Biden, well, I do believe them that he could even be a Robot.

Yeah, even in US, politics is dirty, and we have seen Trump as well with several cases on him or have been convicted. Nevertheless, even if Kamala Harris will have a lot of money as support to her, it's very hard to overcome the lead of Trump.

Unless something went down in the last week that will make voters to swing to Kamala. And trump has been riding high on the assassination attempt on his life and his pro-crypto stance.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: babo on July 26, 2024, 10:06:00 AM
honestly in all this I vote for Trump, not that I like him at all but the recent events, Biden's abandonment and Kamala Harris taking the field
the attack on Trump himself... in short, everything makes me think that people will vote for Donald and not the other Democratic candidate
among other things I read in a poll that Americans are not happy about the war
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: giammangiato on July 26, 2024, 03:41:05 PM
Apparently, Trump was attempted to be shot and survive and he used the opportunity to become more popular and more people endorsement and in return they are spreading bad comments for Biden to be dead. This was same Trump they all hated last 8 years ago.
What you say is true, I find it absolutely true and your considerations are also very intelligent on the matter.  In fact, if I wanted to vote honestly I wouldnt know who to choose between the two, it is really difficult to predict who will win the elections.  I am sure it will be a close fight between both of us.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Baofeng on July 27, 2024, 06:07:55 AM
honestly in all this I vote for Trump, not that I like him at all but the recent events, Biden's abandonment and Kamala Harris taking the field
the attack on Trump himself... in short, everything makes me think that people will vote for Donald and not the other Democratic candidate
among other things I read in a poll that Americans are not happy about the war

Yeah, that's what I'm also saying, there could be here that don't like Trump, but as a crypto or bitcoin enthusiast, will they go and vote for a President that is against one of the things that we love?

So if there is lesser of the two evil scenario here, I might go and vote for Trump as well. We can argue that we really don't know if he will stay and promise that his agenda or he will surround himself with pro-crypto guy. But still if we go with Harris and their anti crypto stance, then it will hurt us more if they are going to stay in the power for the next 4 years.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Harkorede on July 27, 2024, 07:12:27 AM
some are saying Biden was already dead. so the assassination attempt backfired and it was him ...
Suggestive and very interesting hypothesis, where did you read this if I may ask?  I am not doubting that you read this, just to understand and also make considerations about the source who said this fact.  If you can find it, it would be a great pleasure for me.

Politics they say is a dirty game and everyone are ready to play dirty just to looks as good candidate as possible and then make people see the other as the bad people and that's exactly what's happening in US right now. There officiall debate looks more like saying bad words to each other just to make a cheap score.

Apparently, Trump was attempted to be shot and survive and he used the opportunity to become more popular and more people endorsement and in return they are spreading bad comments for Biden to be dead. This was same Trump they all hated last 8 years ago.

And also they say there are no clean hands in politics and that's the obvious truth of this whole matter, Donald Trump himself is far from being a saint, he was a bitter loser in the previous election and he single handedly sparked a riot and unrest in the Capitol Building in Washington, D.C, in the country. There have been numerous conspiracy concern if that was an inside job, or even orchestrated by his own party themselves all in order to have the full support in the court of public opinion. In politics there are often no truths, personal beliefs or any moral compass that anyone follows, all we have are just perspectives, actions / inactions and then justification for whatever decision that's being made.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Stompix on July 27, 2024, 04:30:37 PM
So if there is lesser of the two evil scenario here, I might go and vote for Trump as well. We can argue that we really don't know if he will stay and promise that his agenda or he will surround himself with pro-crypto guy. But still if we go with Harris and their anti crypto stance, then it will hurt us more if they are going to stay in the power for the next 4 years.

Trump put taxes on crypto trading, Trump put extra taxes on mining gear, he had 4 years of service and did nothing pro bitcoin, now suddenly he is promising a ton of things just like he did the last time and out of which he delivered zero.
And what anti-crypto stance does Harris have? Or the Democrats?
You had 4 years of Biden, the US became the leading mining country, as most companies invested in Bitcoin, has ETF approved, it has become like the center of the crypto universe, how was that possible if they were anti?

Trump is just after the votes and the money, when he's president he won't care a bit anymore since anyhow he can't be elected once more, and a lot of people are going to have the surprise of a lifetime on how fast somebody can forget promises.


Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Rruchi man on July 27, 2024, 04:51:19 PM
Trump is just after the votes and the money, when he's president he won't care a bit anymore since anyhow he can't be elected once more, and a lot of people are going to have the surprise of a lifetime on how fast somebody can forget promises.
The choice of who to bet on to win the United States presidential election might be affected by the prediction of some television shows like "the Simpson's" from some years ago concerning Kamala Harris becoming the president of the United States.


I may not be affected by the outcome of the election, but I am sure that people in the country know the better candidate to vote for, and reasons for choosing them should only not just be about their ;love or dislike for cryptocurrency.
source
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: babo on July 29, 2024, 10:59:17 AM
hahha this makes me laugh a lot
so according to the simpsons will Kamala Harris become president?  But let's remember that Lisa is blonde and white, so something doesn't add up (if we want to be picky)

WARNING, I don't care about skin or hair color, it was just to quote precisely and be picky :D
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: giammangiato on July 29, 2024, 12:58:06 PM
Trump put taxes on crypto trading, Trump put extra taxes on mining gear, he had 4 years of service and did nothing pro bitcoin, now suddenly he is promising a ton of things just like he did the last time and out of which he delivered zero.
All politicians around the world make meaningless promises without actually doing what they promise.  Nobody expects him to do everything, but I think the fear of others is the threats from Biden and the Democrats, absurd things like removing self-custody.  You understand that between a threat and a fake promise, perhaps the second is better.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Stompix on July 29, 2024, 05:20:52 PM
Trump put taxes on crypto trading, Trump put extra taxes on mining gear, he had 4 years of service and did nothing pro bitcoin, now suddenly he is promising a ton of things just like he did the last time and out of which he delivered zero.
All politicians around the world make meaningless promises without actually doing what they promise.  Nobody expects him to do everything, but I think the fear of others is the threats from Biden and the Democrats, absurd things like removing self-custody.  You understand that between a threat and a fake promise, perhaps the second is better.

And those absurd scenarios come from the same guys who thought PizzaGate was real!
We had the same thing about Denmark waiting to ban self-custody wallets, look how it turned out:
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=322406.0

I've been genuinely curious to hear what the democrats have been doing bad for crypto these years in the US as the US has become the leading thing in everything, from nodes, miners, LN channels, ETF, and companies, you look everywhere in every aspect and the US is taking the lead, so what bad things have they done?

Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Gurujebs on July 29, 2024, 05:34:28 PM
I may not be affected by the outcome of the election, but I am sure that people in the country know the better candidate to vote for, and reasons for choosing them should only not just be about their ;love or dislike for cryptocurrency.
source

Whoever the country chooses to rule the country, we as a crypto community will be affected. We are not frkm there to exercise vote like others but at this point, Trump might haven't done good job the first time but in kind of confidence in him. He started this crypto thing, though there were other candidates that started Bitcoin in his early days but he doesn't seem to have the chance to get even 50% of US votes. If Biden administration really want Bitcoin, they would have made all that possible before now, it's better they give Donald Trump some chance again.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: 0t3p0t on July 29, 2024, 06:27:29 PM
Even though I am not from the United States but I go with Trump over Harris because Trump is more practical compared to those democrats. Trump is pro-America that is why he is for me the best next president to win as he prioritizes his own country's interests and also has the balls to pacify warring countries or those with external conflicts aside from he being the voice for the masses. He also doesn't like war but instead stop it because he don't want people dying from it.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: electronicash on July 29, 2024, 07:53:59 PM
hahha this makes me laugh a lot
so according to the simpsons will Kamala Harris become president?  But let's remember that Lisa is blonde and white, so something doesn't add up (if we want to be picky)

WARNING, I don't care about skin or hair color, it was just to quote precisely and be picky :D

there were theories about this since Biden already was kept out of the camera which Obama is taking over and putting Kamala as the president already. of course this isn't something that people will be shock and are about to massively object about since there is nothing on the news about it.

its just the news that makes people react. if there is nothing on the news, people will just go on with their lives not minding Kamala taking over. in fact people will not mind if they are canceling election because there is a new pandemic.

Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Captain Corporate on July 30, 2024, 12:36:13 AM
I have changed the poll now a bit. We know Kamala is the candidate, I mean we know from the first moment because Biden endorsed her, and what other option did they have obviously, she was the clear candidate, but it was at least made official. So I changed it, and I see that majority of people here say that Trump will win, but the reality is that polls in other places shows Kamala leading the race right now. That doesn't mean that she will win, of course there is still a chance that she may lose, but she does have this momentum going for her, and if she can keep that up for a few more months, its quite possible that she may win.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: babo on July 30, 2024, 08:45:23 AM
there were theories about this since Biden already was kept out of the camera which Obama is taking over and putting Kamala as the president already. of course this isn't something that people will be shock and are about to massively object about since there is nothing on the news about it.

its just the news that makes people react. if there is nothing on the news, people will just go on with their lives not minding Kamala taking over. in fact people will not mind if they are canceling election because there is a new pandemic.

forgive me, what new pandemic?  Where did you see and hear these things?  Could you please cite the source of what you claim
that Biden was a goner could already be seen in the last years of his mandate, totally absent of mind
it was necessary to put someone who wasn't so absent

not just to say things, in the end they are all puppets
but so as not to make it clear that they are all puppets

I don't know if I can explain myself
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: robelneo on July 30, 2024, 04:21:19 PM
I have changed the poll now a bit. We know Kamala is the candidate, I mean we know from the first moment because Biden endorsed her, and what other option did they have obviously, she was the clear candidate, but it was at least made official. So I changed it, and I see that majority of people here say that Trump will win, but the reality is that polls in other places shows Kamala leading the race right now. That doesn't mean that she will win, of course there is still a chance that she may lose, but she does have this momentum going for her, and if she can keep that up for a few more months, its quite possible that she may win.

Based on the poll here Trump has a wide margin but of course we are not all voters of the US election we just based it on what we see and potential outcome.
Donald Trump 12 (92.3%)
Kamala Harris  1 (7.7%)

Trump has the momentum now and Kamala is starting to build up her strategy. and this early, Trump  accuse her of being anti crypto so in the coming days and months, we will see who has a better strategy and I have a feeling that they will use the Cryptocurrency in their campaign.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Stompix on July 30, 2024, 04:37:21 PM
if there is nothing on the news, people will just go on with their lives not minding Kamala taking over. in fact people will not mind if they are canceling election because there is a new pandemic.

Seriously stop with the tinfoil conspiracies, the whole internet has erupted with these stories just because Trump suddenly feels threatened after being comfortably in the lead and tries to tell us the apocalypse will happen if the Democrats get to power! The thing is that suddenly from being a straight win Trump is going to have a fight on his hand and once we cut all his bullshit premises he has nothing more to show than Kamala,  and that's a reason enough for a lot of people including Putin to shit bricks right now.

Trump is pro-America that is why he is for me the best next president to win as he prioritizes his own country's interests and also has the balls to pacify warring countries or those with external conflicts aside from he being the voice for the masses. He also doesn't like war but instead stop it because he don't want people dying from it.

Lobbying 100 tomahawks against Syria and giving the order to kill  the highest ranking Iranian general and hero is making him pacifist? Or withdrawing from the nuclear treaty and having the post-war record of US Airforce strikes in both Afghanistan and Irak?
Oh, just remembered he was the one moving the embassy from Tel-Aviv to Jerusalem, that was obviously in the same of peace, right!?

The guy that keeps demanding its allies to boost military sending is the pacifist?





Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Lucius on July 30, 2024, 05:29:52 PM
~snip~
The guy that keeps demanding its allies to boost military sending is the pacifist?


He can be the biggest dictator, warlord, some new Hitler or Stalin, but that doesn't matter as long as he's pro-Bitcoin, right? Who knows, maybe one day he too will receive the Nobel Peace Prize, because today everything is for sale ::)
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Stompix on July 30, 2024, 05:38:03 PM
He can be the biggest dictator, warlord, some new Hitler or Stalin, but that doesn't matter as long as he's pro-Bitcoin, right?

I said it before quite a few times, if Hitler would rise from the grave and promise that he would make the biggest Bitcoin mining farm at Auschwitz or Dachau and that the Fifth Reich would have Bitcoin as legal tender there would be thousands cheering for the guy! People have literally sold their souls and bodies for money, so it's not unexpected that we see some cheering for Trump.

Just as Trump doesn't give a rats ass about crypto so do crypto users truly of Trump, they care about the price, as long as its good news who cares if they are fake promises or the one making it is a liar, it's the $ before the price of BTC that matters.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: electronicash on July 30, 2024, 06:44:21 PM
there were theories about this since Biden already was kept out of the camera which Obama is taking over and putting Kamala as the president already. of course this isn't something that people will be shock and are about to massively object about since there is nothing on the news about it.

its just the news that makes people react. if there is nothing on the news, people will just go on with their lives not minding Kamala taking over. in fact people will not mind if they are canceling election because there is a new pandemic.

forgive me, what new pandemic?  Where did you see and hear these things?  Could you please cite the source of what you claim
that Biden was a goner could already be seen in the last years of his mandate, totally absent of mind
it was necessary to put someone who wasn't so absent

not just to say things, in the end they are all puppets
but so as not to make it clear that they are all puppets

I don't know if I can explain myself

i could just said something else like.

its just the news that makes people react. if there is nothing on the news, people will just go on with their lives not minding Kamala taking over. in fact people will not mind if they are canceling election because there is a new pandemic.  or probably if they announce Biden was assassinated, they still could cancel election.

or if the war in Ukraine - Russia requires conscription, they could cancel election. anything that could happen that might cancel election. its not a conspiracy theory but it might have happened if Trump died.



Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Captain Corporate on July 30, 2024, 10:42:56 PM
I find it quite sad that people are voting based on things that did not happen, just for potential of what may happen, instead of checking what has already happened. We have seen Trump be president for 4 years, and we have seen what he is all about, if you liked his 4 years, then vote for him based on that 4 years, or don't vote for him based on that 4 years, if you are voting/not voting based on some guess, like what "may" happen, don't do that. Same goes for Kamala, while she was never the president, she was the VP, well she IS the vp still, and we have seen her opinions and her actions for the past 4 years anyways. So it would work the same way. Making a guess what "may" happen, and voting based on that, is not a smart move at all, its just fear these politicians instill on you about the other side and you take the bait.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on July 30, 2024, 10:48:03 PM
some are saying Biden was already dead. so the assassination attempt backfired and it was him ...
Suggestive and very interesting hypothesis, where did you read this if I may ask?  I am not doubting that you read this, just to understand and also make considerations about the source who said this fact.  If you can find it, it would be a great pleasure for me.

Politics they say is a dirty game and everyone are ready to play dirty just to looks as good candidate as possible and then make people see the other as the bad people and that's exactly what's happening in US right now. There officiall debate looks more like saying bad words to each other just to make a cheap score.

Apparently, Trump was attempted to be shot and survive and he used the opportunity to become more popular and more people endorsement and in return they are spreading bad comments for Biden to be dead. This was same Trump they all hated last 8 years ago.
I share what you say, politics is really like that, sometimes it is very dirty, I say sometimes, but I think it is all the time, I consider that now what is being generated in the USA is a great Speculation with respect to its politicians, and it is a shame, because basically those who are involved in this are people who are human above all, and whatever it is, it is wrong, an attack is Wrong, and if someone put on a whole circus to make believe that they were going to kill him, then that is very wrong, I prefer to think with a little more sanity and say that they did try to kill Trump , and with what happened to Biden, well, I do believe them that he could even be a Robot.

Yeah, even in US, politics is dirty, and we have seen Trump as well with several cases on him or have been convicted. Nevertheless, even if Kamala Harris will have a lot of money as support to her, it's very hard to overcome the lead of Trump.

Unless something went down in the last week that will make voters to swing to Kamala. And trump has been riding high on the assassination attempt on his life and his pro-crypto stance.

There is no denying that the things Trump has done in favor of Bitcoin and crypto are some of the best, there is no doubt about that, I think that winning over the Bitcoin community is winning a lot, now, with everything he has been through, I think it couldn't be better, for me seeing it from a very external point of view, things are very favorable, and so far I think that if he is to become president, there is nothing that will bring him down, there is nothing that can be decisive against him, plus everything he has been through is very hard.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Zed0X on July 30, 2024, 11:36:07 PM
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and so far I think that if he is to become president, there is nothing that will bring him down, there is nothing that can be decisive against him, plus everything he has been through is very hard.
Well, he's been sued to disqualify him from running for office and he's been almost assassinated during his campaign rally, what else could bring this guy down? Maybe an impeachment or a military Government takeover? Anyway, I think 4 years is a short time to remove any POTUS from office.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: |MINER| on July 30, 2024, 11:45:24 PM
Well, he's been sued to disqualify him from running for office and he's been almost assassinated during his campaign rally, what else could bring this guy down? Maybe an impeachment or a military Government takeover? Anyway, I think 4 years is a short time to remove any POTUS from office.
Currently the hottest topic in the world is Cryptocurrency and a large number of people have started liking it. And who is against of this crypto is the current president what you mention the POTUS, LOL. And on the other hand, this crazy Donald Trump has started supporting it and has managed to collect a huge amount of donations through it. And after all this, his chances of becoming the president have been increased by the fact that he was assassinated. If Donald Trump becomes president, I would say that this incident will play a very important role behind that.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: babo on July 31, 2024, 09:48:40 AM
in polymarket https://polymarket.com/elections the best site for betting on stuff we see this

(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/07/31/5uDfm.png)

we can see that Donald Trump is far ahead of Kamala Harris, there will be many reasons, the attack, the crypto promises... in reality we don't know if he is telling the truth about the promises obviously

Has anyone bet on it?
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: target on July 31, 2024, 09:57:18 AM
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Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: target on July 31, 2024, 10:15:43 AM
in polymarket https://polymarket.com/elections the best site for betting on stuff we see this

(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/07/31/5uDfm.png)

we can see that Donald Trump is far ahead of Kamala Harris, there will be many reasons, the attack, the crypto promises... in reality we don't know if he is telling the truth about the promises obviously

Has anyone bet on it?

He been ahead on polls but more support on Trump after the assasination attempt. In the last election, he surprisingly lost but before the result he was winning but after just few hours of sleep the result changed and Biden won. This were believed to be the reason why Jan6 happened.

Harris is also supoorting BTC too right?   A debate between the two will be full of crypto audience.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: babo on July 31, 2024, 10:19:30 AM
no Kamala Harris not support crypto

obviously Mrs. Kamala Harris follows what her predecessor and friend Joe Biden set out
she can't say something different otherwise she will make a very bad impression on both of them
a cinema worthy of their name
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: giammangiato on July 31, 2024, 12:58:06 PM
... Harris is also supoorting BTC too right?   A debate between the two will be full of crypto audience.
From what I understand, I could also have misunderstood, it seems to me that he doesnt support Crypto at the moment, in fact I think he will be polarized against it given that Donald Trump supports them to attract anti-cryptocurrency people.  I dont know if this is a winning strategy.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Zed0X on July 31, 2024, 02:36:56 PM
no Kamala Harris not support crypto

obviously Mrs. Kamala Harris follows what her predecessor and friend Joe Biden set out
she can't say something different otherwise she will make a very bad impression on both of them
a cinema worthy of their name
Yeah, that will be odd. Her entire campaign program will probably not include any topics on crypto but revolve on things like security (since Biden is a war POTUS) and maybe immigration since they already used the border to attack Trump.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Lucius on July 31, 2024, 03:34:17 PM
He can be the biggest dictator, warlord, some new Hitler or Stalin, but that doesn't matter as long as he's pro-Bitcoin, right?

I said it before quite a few times, if Hitler would rise from the grave and promise that he would make the biggest Bitcoin mining farm at Auschwitz or Dachau and that the Fifth Reich would have Bitcoin as legal tender there would be thousands cheering for the guy! People have literally sold their souls and bodies for money, so it's not unexpected that we see some cheering for Trump.

Just as Trump doesn't give a rats ass about crypto so do crypto users truly of Trump, they care about the price, as long as its good news who cares if they are fake promises or the one making it is a liar, it's the $ before the price of BTC that matters.


People obviously need a leader, and since the almighty-supreme Mr. Mars has quieted down and no longer "pumps" the market, they have obviously chosen a new leader. But I am not surprised that the majority of people have such an attitude, because unfortunately people are the product of today's media and political influences and it is obvious that they believe in power and money before anything else.


in polymarket https://polymarket.com/elections the best site for betting on stuff we see this

(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/07/31/5uDfm.png)

we can see that Donald Trump is far ahead of Kamala Harris, there will be many reasons, the attack, the crypto promises... in reality we don't know if he is telling the truth about the promises obviously

Has anyone bet on it?

It is logical that supporters of crypto gather around Trump and give him support, but maybe they should look at the results of some other researches that show the battle for the White House in a much more realistic light. I will put some money on KH at some point, not only because I don't like Trump, but because I think she actually has a chance to win the elections with a well-designed campaign.

Quote from: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/harris-trump-locked-tight-us-presidential-race-reutersipsos-poll-finds-2024-07-30/
WASHINGTON, July 30 (Reuters) - Democratic presidential candidate Kamala Harris held a marginal one-percentage-point lead over Republican Donald Trump in a new Reuters/Ipsos poll, closing the gap that opened in the final weeks of President Joe Biden's reelection bid.
The three-day poll, completed on Sunday, showed Vice President Harris supported by 43% of registered voters, with former President Trump supported by 42%, within the poll's 3.5 percentage point margin of error
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Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Gurujebs on July 31, 2024, 04:22:10 PM
no Kamala Harris not support crypto

obviously Mrs. Kamala Harris follows what her predecessor and friend Joe Biden set out
she can't say something different otherwise she will make a very bad impression on both of them
a cinema worthy of their name

You have a point right there but it seems Democrats has now grow more wings in supporting Kamala than they did With Biden. The campaign energy has doubled and the way they now support him online is crazy. Her first day of joining TikTok, she was verified under 24 hours and the people are now going on with crazy likes, they seems to like her even more than Biden.

Another thing is that Democrats love to influence through social media than Trump, this was what they did in the last election to unseat Trump with influencers and celebrity and now they are doing it again, all this are what scare me for Trump. The last campaign she did was a massive turnout and that begs the question is Kamala would push Trump to the wall or not.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: babo on July 31, 2024, 05:53:34 PM
Yeah, that will be odd. Her entire campaign program will probably not include any topics on crypto but revolve on things like security (since Biden is a war POTUS) and maybe immigration since they already used the border to attack Trump.

Yes, I think he's ahead, then it doesn't change much for me, the dems are warmongers.

It is logical that supporters of crypto gather around Trump and give him support, but maybe they should look at the results of some other researches that show the battle for the White House in a much more realistic light. I will put some money on KH at some point, not only because I don't like Trump, but because I think she actually has a chance to win the elections with a well-designed campaign.

I don't like either of them if we really want to be honest.  Let's say for me it's like choosing between two different colors of poop: dark brown and light brown.

..
Another thing is that Democrats love to influence through social media than Trump, this was what they did in the last election to unseat Trump with influencers and celebrity and now they are doing it again, all this are what scare me for Trump. The last campaign she did was a massive turnout and that begs the question is Kamala would push Trump to the wall or not.

I know I know, Trump also has the entire movie industry, songs against him.  Everyone hates him, this actually makes me think a little.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on July 31, 2024, 11:04:57 PM
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and so far I think that if he is to become president, there is nothing that will bring him down, there is nothing that can be decisive against him, plus everything he has been through is very hard.
Well, he's been sued to disqualify him from running for office and he's been almost assassinated during his campaign rally, what else could bring this guy down? Maybe an impeachment or a military Government takeover? Anyway, I think 4 years is a short time to remove any POTUS from office.

Well for me he is a totally announced president, for me Kamala has no chance, but in the USA there are people who are very radical, and he doesn't care at all, it was clear that things are somewhat dangerous, now security for him must be superior, to now go out like this to a rally, things must not be so simple anymore, it is something to think about, even the people who go to the rally have to be very careful, because a stray bullet can end a life, just as it happened there, it is a shame that politics has made things like this.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: famososMuertos on August 01, 2024, 02:15:48 AM
..//:::.

The situation now is that we have a "void" perhaps the best situation for those who had bet on Biden. It is not my case, but given the situation of having nearly lost money, I would completely put it on Kamala.

Hey, it is not a question of being a partisan with the Democrats, but after having a lost bet, I would take it as a freebet (void) and put it on Kamala. On the other hand, betting on DT does not make me a Republican or a sympathizer, I say we are on the Gambling board, right?  :)
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: babo on August 01, 2024, 11:24:26 AM
Well for me he is a totally announced president, for me Kamala has no chance, but in the USA there are people who are very radical, and he doesn't care at all, it was clear that things are somewhat dangerous, now security for him must be superior, to now go out like this to a rally, things must not be so simple anymore, it is something to think about, even the people who go to the rally have to be very careful, because a stray bullet can end a life, just as it happened there, it is a shame that politics has made things like this.

Even in my opinion, if they hadn't tried to kill him I wouldn't have said it with such certainty.
In practice he was so annoying that they wanted to kill him directly, without beating around the bush too much.
That single event made me understand many things, besides that the Yankees are a people of savages
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Stompix on August 01, 2024, 03:26:53 PM
Even in my opinion, if they hadn't tried to kill him I wouldn't have said it with such certainty.
In practice he was so annoying that they wanted to kill him directly, without beating around the bush too much.
That single event made me understand many things, besides that the Yankees are a people of savages

Seriously, them?
Are you saying they actually tried to kill them by using a guy who went 3 times to a shooting range in the previous year and was stupid enough to aim for the head of a person who was staying on a platform and moving left and right?
Every single guy who has done military service would know you aim for the body in such a situation, especially if you're a poor shooter, there were probably 100 guys in that crowd who would have done a better job and you think this was an arranged assassination?

Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Rubel007 on August 01, 2024, 05:21:53 PM
no Kamala Harris not support crypto

obviously Mrs. Kamala Harris follows what her predecessor and friend Joe Biden set out
she can't say something different otherwise she will make a very bad impression on both of them
a cinema worthy of their name
Kamala Harris will not support crypto because Joe Biden has no positive look about it, the party she comes from, is not positive about crypto. Being a representative of that party it is unreasonable to expect anything different from her. Only when they realized that Joe Biden could not win the election did they select Kamala Harris instead of Biden. I think of Kamala Harris as the mirror image of Biden.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: electronicash on August 01, 2024, 08:34:21 PM
no Kamala Harris not support crypto

obviously Mrs. Kamala Harris follows what her predecessor and friend Joe Biden set out
she can't say something different otherwise she will make a very bad impression on both of them
a cinema worthy of their name
Kamala Harris will not support crypto because Joe Biden has no positive look about it, the party she comes from, is not positive about crypto. Being a representative of that party it is unreasonable to expect anything different from her. Only when they realized that Joe Biden could not win the election did they select Kamala Harris instead of Biden. I think of Kamala Harris as the mirror image of Biden.

Kamala's odds in the  betting platform looks good than Biden's actually.
if you haven't seen how the media has been trying to ruin Trump since, this is got to be one epic sample


you have got to have the most clouded mind in the world to not see what the media is doing to Trump. portraying him as the bad guy is not working anymore. and then they are now planting the idea that Kamala is black.  :o

if Kamala wins and you bet for her, you are one lucky son of a gambler.
 ;D
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on August 01, 2024, 10:06:34 PM
The situation now is that we have a "void" perhaps the best situation for those who had bet on Biden. It is not my case, but given the situation of having nearly lost money, I would completely put it on Kamala.

Hey, it is not a question of being a partisan with the Democrats, but after having a lost bet, I would take it as a freebet (void) and put it on Kamala. On the other hand, betting on DT does not make me a Republican or a sympathizer, I say we are on the Gambling board, right?  :)
You are absolutely right, my bro, Now, as things stand, I see that Politically and as in an electoral contest, absolutely anything can happen , even the least expected scenario can occur.

no Kamala Harris not support crypto

obviously Mrs. Kamala Harris follows what her predecessor and friend Joe Biden set out
she can't say something different otherwise she will make a very bad impression on both of them
a cinema worthy of their name
Kamala Harris will not support crypto because Joe Biden has no positive look about it, the party she comes from, is not positive about crypto. Being a representative of that party it is unreasonable to expect anything different from her. Only when they realized that Joe Biden could not win the election did they select Kamala Harris instead of Biden. I think of Kamala Harris as the mirror image of Biden.

Here Trump clearly has a great advantage, an advantage that puts Trump on his side, the Bitcoin community is large, it is no small thing, and just by saying that he Supports Bitcoin he has won a lot, and Trump is clear about that, he is Undoubtedly a very intelligent Person , who has everything in his favor to use it.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Zed0X on August 01, 2024, 11:28:28 PM
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you have got to have the most clouded mind in the world to not see what the media is doing to Trump. portraying him as the bad guy is not working anymore. and then they are now planting the idea that Kamala is black.  :o
The black card ship has long sailed in my opinion ;D It's already been (over)used by Obama before but, now, there are some people of color and with influence that's favoring Trump. One of which is Candace Owens and I heard in one of her interviews that Obama may be black but he never really did anything to help the black community during his terms.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: babo on August 02, 2024, 09:48:11 AM
Seriously, them?
Are you saying they actually tried to kill them by using a guy who went 3 times to a shooting range in the previous year and was stupid enough to aim for the head of a person who was staying on a platform and moving left and right?
Every single guy who has done military service would know you aim for the body in such a situation, especially if you're a poor shooter, there were probably 100 guys in that crowd who would have done a better job and you think this was an arranged assassination?

first of all just luckily he didn't kill him, caught him by the ear (if you haven't forgotten) secondly you don't necessarily have to hire a killer
you can also influence a predisposed and highly unstable person to do certain things


I remind you that among the declassified documents there was also the famous MONARCH operation
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: pawel7777 on August 02, 2024, 10:10:50 AM
The black card ship has long sailed in my opinion ;D It's already been (over)used by Obama before but, now, there are some people of color and with influence that's favoring Trump. One of which is Candace Owens and I heard in one of her interviews that Obama may be black but he never really did anything to help the black community during his terms.

Even if Trump fails to sway the black vote, I don't think Kamala has what it takes to get them mobilised and show up to vote for her.
She lacks charisma, is fake in her behaviour and comes across as disingenuous, e.g. by claiming to be native Indian then switching to being black etc.
The only card the Democrats have to play is to make people scared of DT, but that's way harder now, given he already was a president and nothing bad has happened.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: giammangiato on August 02, 2024, 03:41:06 PM
..Here Trump clearly has a great advantage, an advantage that puts Trump on his side, the Bitcoin community is large, it is no small thing, and just by saying that he Supports Bitcoin he has won a lot, and Trump is clear about that, he is Undoubtedly a very intelligent Person , who has everything in his favor to use it.
very good, exactly, thats what I meant too.  He certainly has a thousand defects and perhaps even more, but he is certainly not stupid and he has understood how to exploit this to his advantage, if then his advantage also becomes ours by avoiding absurd laws such as that of self-custody , better no?
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Rubel007 on August 02, 2024, 04:02:03 PM
Trump has attracted the attention of Bitcoiners who are in the community as he expressed his positive attitude towards Bitcoin before the election and he is sure to have the support of all of them. Not only that, there are many bitcoiners who support Kamala Harris, now they will support Donald Trump. As a bitcoin enthusiast Trump has shown decent knowledge and prudence.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Stompix on August 02, 2024, 04:04:17 PM
She lacks charisma, is fake in her behaviour and comes across as disingenuous, e.g. by claiming to be native Indian then switching to being black etc.

Bruh seriously?
She has Indian and Jamaican parents, haven't you heard of mixed race before?
And she never claimed to be a native Indian,  she is Indian American.

and Trump is clear about that, he is Undoubtedly a very intelligent Person ,

Trump and intelligence....
The guy that said the human body has finite energy and exercising is depleting your life span (https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/5/9/15590962/donald-trump-thinks-exercise-will-kill-you)?

first of all just luckily he didn't kill him, caught him by the ear (if you haven't forgotten) secondly you don't necessarily have to hire a killer
you can also influence a predisposed and highly unstable person to do certain things

So you're splitting your theory into two, he was a trained killer but he could also have been something else...who could have missed and basically gave him even more votes and sealed the election?
Because no Democrat alive would remember how Reagan went to 80% approval after getting shot and how he won by a landslide the next election.

That's the problem with conspiracy theories, they have no proof, no logic, and at the end they end up contradicting each other.
Now, what if the guy was actually paid by Trump to do the same as it did for Reagan? See how this goes?  :D

Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: babo on August 02, 2024, 04:14:24 PM
we are in a democracy I can think however I want
 and you can think whatever you want
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on August 03, 2024, 12:57:06 AM
Trump and intelligence....
The guy that said the human body has finite energy and exercising is depleting your life span (https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/5/9/15590962/donald-trump-thinks-exercise-will-kill-you)?


Lol, I really didn't know he had said something like that, I don't know, maybe he doesn't have that much wisdom in some things, but I do respect someone who has written books on financial education, because the advice he gives with Robert Kiyosaki in the book: "We Want You to Be Rich", is excellent, and I like that he doesn't have a merely political thought nor is his training political but focused on Business Management, above all his way of thinking is very positive and in his mind Failure does not Exist.



In politics, everyone has a different way of thinking, that is why there are many problems, no one can think as the other wants or make them think as they want, in my case I give a perspective of what can be seen on TV, social networks and what is shown more, I am not an American citizen who lives day to day and can establish a better and clearer opinion, but, what is it that suits an American so that his life improves? better in the economic sense and in terms of quality of life? What can each candidate contribute? I consider that that is what they have to think about, because politics will always be lies and more lies, but another thing is the candidate who offers much more progress.

I wonder what would happen if Mr. Beast could be a presidential candidate?? Would he pass above these two?

Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: electronicash on August 05, 2024, 08:19:52 PM
Trump and intelligence....
The guy that said the human body has finite energy and exercising is depleting your life span (https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/5/9/15590962/donald-trump-thinks-exercise-will-kill-you)?


Lol, I really didn't know he had said something like that, I don't know, maybe he doesn't have that much wisdom in some things, but I do respect someone who has written books on financial education, because the advice he gives with Robert Kiyosaki in the book: "We Want You to Be Rich", is excellent, and I like that he doesn't have a merely political thought nor is his training political but focused on Business Management, above all his way of thinking is very positive and in his mind Failure does not Exist.



In politics, everyone has a different way of thinking, that is why there are many problems, no one can think as the other wants or make them think as they want, in my case I give a perspective of what can be seen on TV, social networks and what is shown more, I am not an American citizen who lives day to day and can establish a better and clearer opinion, but, what is it that suits an American so that his life improves? better in the economic sense and in terms of quality of life? What can each candidate contribute? I consider that that is what they have to think about, because politics will always be lies and more lies, but another thing is the candidate who offers much more progress.

I wonder what would happen if Mr. Beast could be a presidential candidate?? Would he pass above these two?

Mr. Beast will still not be able to stop tragedy. it no matter who sits in the office since it looks like chaos whoever is up there. Joe just continue what Trump started. if Trump comes back to the office he will just continue what Biden is doing as well.  i'm not from US as well but this stuff is happening in my country countless times. 

but anyone today can see Trump is winning the polls. since the odds is already around 1.50, it may not be worth it to bet when you just wager small amount. but adding Trump to a parlay might be an option for you to win bigger.

Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Gurujebs on August 05, 2024, 09:15:50 PM
Trump has attracted the attention of Bitcoiners who are in the community as he expressed his positive attitude towards Bitcoin before the election and he is sure to have the support of all of them. Not only that, there are many bitcoiners who support Kamala Harris, now they will support Donald Trump. As a bitcoin enthusiast Trump has shown decent knowledge and prudence.

I haven't experienced American election been heated like this before but I have a fear about this Bitcoiners and political movement of Trump. What if Trump is giving the support he needed and then he made it to the white house and refused to give proper attention to the Bitcoiners? As longs as politicians are concerned with selfish interest, it's possible.

I want us to also know that Trump is a movement and most of the promises we are seeing are prepared by his campaign crew, what if he says some of those promises that are made apart from what he promised in the Bitcoin conference aren't his but because they needed votes, they sugar coats some of the promises?
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Captain Corporate on August 06, 2024, 12:03:08 AM
I mean you can check here, which shows about %86 of votes to Trump here, and then you can check the reality, which shows polls and more importantly odds (these casinos lose money if they are wrong so I trust them more than polls), and see that its close, like %52 trump and %48 kamala type situation. That means, Trump did manage to get all the bitcoiners, %90 of the market here is a Trump supporter or at least thinks Trump will win. Thats something, sure the number of bitcoin people in the USA who will go out to vote and vote Trump did not change THIS much, but it definitely did not hurt, its helpful to get as many groups as you can.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Stompix on August 06, 2024, 05:56:55 PM
That means, Trump did manage to get all the bitcoiners, %90 of the market here is a Trump supporter or at least thinks Trump will win. Thats something, sure the number of bitcoin people in the USA who will go out to vote and vote Trump did not change THIS much, but it definitely did not hurt, its helpful to get as many groups as you can.

The thing is that the source for this is extremely biased, if you go to other sources like reddit crypto subs you will see that it's actually the opposite, bitcoiners calling Trump for a fake and a liar and not trusting a bit of what he says.

Don't forget that crypto owners in the US, the ones that vote have been dealing with a crypto tax on trading Trump put in place, so it's quite hard to go vote for the guy that made you pay more just because he promises you the heaven right now.
Also, odds are moving, Trump is 1.73 from being close to 1.33, new polls suggest he will be losing at least two swing states he was leading and the effect of the VP pick is not even factored, there is panic in the republican camps and for now he's out of ammo.

And promises he will pay the debt with a crypto check won't get him votes.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Gurujebs on August 06, 2024, 06:06:31 PM
I mean you can check here, which shows about %86 of votes to Trump here, and then you can check the reality, which shows polls and more importantly odds (these casinos lose money if they are wrong so I trust them more than polls), and see that its close, like %52 trump and %48 kamala type situation. That means, Trump did manage to get all the bitcoiners, %90 of the market here is a Trump supporter or at least thinks Trump will win. Thats something, sure the number of bitcoin people in the USA who will go out to vote and vote Trump did not change THIS much, but it definitely did not hurt, its helpful to get as many groups as you can.

I don't believe in this poll voting. The result and people that voted are mostly people that supported him for supporting Bitcoin and speaking good of Bitcoin in the Bitcoin conference. In reality, the media has shrink Trump and he is not getting much attention of the celebrities, they are rightly staying behind Kamala especially the female influencers and artist that has power to influence their followers politically.

I think there is time before one can conclude what is going to happen in the forthcoming election of the US. It is going to be historical if Kamala beat Trump but if the other way happens, Trump will shake US once again and I hope he changes for good this time.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Zed0X on August 06, 2024, 11:10:16 PM
~ and more importantly odds (these casinos lose money if they are wrong so I trust them more than polls)
To be fair, last 2020 election for the POTUS, it was Trump who was the favorite. Prior to that, I think he was the underdorg.

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In reality, the media has shrink Trump and he is not getting much attention of the celebrities, they are rightly staying behind Kamala especially the female influencers and artist that has power to influence their followers politically.
I think the power of celebrity endorsements doesn't have the same pull as before. The age of social media somehow decreased mainstream media influence. The battle now is who these social media owners will support. Facebook and Instagram will more likely block a lot of accounts supporting Trump while X (Twitter) will remain more neutral.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: bitterguy28 on August 07, 2024, 12:52:25 AM
The thing is that the source for this is extremely biased, if you go to other sources like reddit crypto subs you will see that it's actually the opposite, bitcoiners calling Trump for a fake and a liar and not trusting a bit of what he says.
we don’t know how many of those people in reddit are actual american citizens who can vote i am not from america and even if i tell you that trump is just taking advantage of bitcoin and bitcoiners it wouldn’t matter in the end because i can’t vote anyway
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new polls suggest he will be losing at least two swing states he was leading and the effect of the VP pick is not even factored, there is panic in the republican camps and for now he's out of ammo.
he definitely found a challenge in harris so i am curious what other gimmicks can he pull from his pocket the debate next month should be interesting and very telling of their characters but not their chances to win
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: babo on August 07, 2024, 11:34:00 AM
guys, we shouldn't fight ourselves to support Kamala Harris or Donald Trump, remember they always look after their interests and not the interests of the people
however, if they are interests that can serve us, we should have the intelligence to exploit this to our advantage
honestly I don't like either of them, I don't like them

although in reality I don't like any politician
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: giammangiato on August 07, 2024, 01:16:05 PM
... he definitely found a challenge in harris so i am curious what other gimmicks can he pull from his pocket the debate next month should be interesting and very telling of their characters but not their chances to win
it will certainly be interesting to see, given that before it was easy for him to win arguments since he had to talk to a mummy who didnt even know what context he was in: embarrassing.  Now it becomes fun to understand how he responds to a person who is present and has a functioning brain.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: armanda90 on August 07, 2024, 04:17:23 PM
guys, we shouldn't fight ourselves to support Kamala Harris or Donald Trump, remember they always look after their interests and not the interests of the people
however, if they are interests that can serve us, we should have the intelligence to exploit this to our advantage
honestly I don't like either of them, I don't like them

although in reality I don't like any politician
Its politician habist before and after winning the election, most of them become most polite people before become the president but after succes win the election never care what have promosed before. In my country faced that kinds of politician give us sweet promising but most of them forget it after success got vote and win the election.
Not problem for US Citizen support between Kamala Harris or Donald Trump but don't be disappointed later when the winner not care what their promosed before.
If I am US citizen will ptefer with the candidate not talking more or giving many promising to their people, looking forward with realistic of their promising.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Stompix on August 07, 2024, 05:06:55 PM
And the bets are changing evem more, it took just to weeks for it to come to just 1.91 for Harris and 1.83 for Trump.
Now whoever was sure for Trump to win might have rushed if he took those 1.3 back a month ago, we now look at a 200% possible gain.Those that put their money on Harris at 5:1 and have the option to cashout might think the opposite, take it or put an insurance bet at these odds.

I wonder if we'll see odds flip by the end of August.


Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: electronicash on August 07, 2024, 07:37:36 PM
And the bets are changing evem more, it took just to weeks for it to come to just 1.91 for Harris and 1.83 for Trump.
Now whoever was sure for Trump to win might have rushed if he took those 1.3 back a month ago, we now look at a 200% possible gain.Those that put their money on Harris at 5:1 and have the option to cashout might think the opposite, take it or put an insurance bet at these odds.

I wonder if we'll see odds flip by the end of August.


i don't know which sports platform you are watching but most of the crypto users are looking at the crypto sports betting platform like stakes..com
https://stake.com/sports/outright/politics-entertainment/politics/us-presidential-election-2020/41683725-us-presidential-election-2020

Donald Trump 1.93
Kamala Harris 2.25
Robert Kennedy Jr 81.00

obviously Kamala is nothing near to Trump. but maybe the fake Rogan video posted by MSNBC telling Kamala will win is going to help. no one things that lady is going to win. even the Dems disliked her.

Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on August 07, 2024, 09:56:12 PM
Trump and intelligence....
The guy that said the human body has finite energy and exercising is depleting your life span (https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/5/9/15590962/donald-trump-thinks-exercise-will-kill-you)?


Lol, I really didn't know he had said something like that, I don't know, maybe he doesn't have that much wisdom in some things, but I do respect someone who has written books on financial education, because the advice he gives with Robert Kiyosaki in the book: "We Want You to Be Rich", is excellent, and I like that he doesn't have a merely political thought nor is his training political but focused on Business Management, above all his way of thinking is very positive and in his mind Failure does not Exist.



In politics, everyone has a different way of thinking, that is why there are many problems, no one can think as the other wants or make them think as they want, in my case I give a perspective of what can be seen on TV, social networks and what is shown more, I am not an American citizen who lives day to day and can establish a better and clearer opinion, but, what is it that suits an American so that his life improves? better in the economic sense and in terms of quality of life? What can each candidate contribute? I consider that that is what they have to think about, because politics will always be lies and more lies, but another thing is the candidate who offers much more progress.

I wonder what would happen if Mr. Beast could be a presidential candidate?? Would he pass above these two?

Mr. Beast will still not be able to stop tragedy. it no matter who sits in the office since it looks like chaos whoever is up there. Joe just continue what Trump started. if Trump comes back to the office he will just continue what Biden is doing as well.  i'm not from US as well but this stuff is happening in my country countless times. 

but anyone today can see Trump is winning the polls. since the odds is already around 1.50, it may not be worth it to bet when you just wager small amount. but adding Trump to a parlay might be an option for you to win bigger.
Things are very difficult with the USA and its presidential elections, I personally never imagined that the USA would be in this situation with so many problems for its candidates, They have all had many very strong things that they have gone through. It is Clear with Trump that they have taken advantage of the powers of the government to disqualify him. On the other hand, Biden has had major setbacks, and the USA is highly politicized and that is not so good. Many rivalries are created between people who may think differently , and there is nothing worse than them becoming enemies because of Politics.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: pawel7777 on August 07, 2024, 11:13:14 PM
(...) and the USA is highly politicized and that is not so good. Many rivalries are created between people who may think differently , and there is nothing worse than them becoming enemies because of Politics.

The extreme polarisation of the society is no longer only the US problem, it spreaded onto other European countries as well. Having family members becoming hostile to each other over political differences is not uncommon.
As bad as it is, the major parties tend to benefit from that quite nicely. Instead of actually presenting a comprehensive programme and being held accountable for not delivering on their promises the major selling point is now "the other party is bad, so vote for us" + creating a tribalistic environment and locking people in informational bubbles.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: JoyMarsha on August 07, 2024, 11:24:12 PM
guys, we shouldn't fight ourselves to support Kamala Harris or Donald Trump, remember they always look after their interests and not the interests of the people
however, if they are interests that can serve us, we should have the intelligence to exploit this to our advantage
honestly I don't like either of them, I don't like them

although in reality I don't like any politician
I called them fools who fight their fellow human being because of politicians who don't care about their well-being unless theirs and their families.

When I gave up on disagreeing with politics was when I saw a former president laughing and drinking with someone I thought was a threat to his government due to the online beef I saw them having with each other. I never knew they were in the secret friends, laughing at the masses who fight and kill themselves because of them.

What an ugly belief that most of us do feel about politicians we support is worth dying for and having enemies for ourselves. They will surely have our backs even at that, the same way we have theirs.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Stompix on August 08, 2024, 09:00:01 AM
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i don't know which sports platform you are watching but most of the crypto users are looking at the crypto sports betting platform like stakes..com
https://stake.com/sports/outright/politics-entertainment/politics/us-presidential-election-2020/41683725-us-presidential-election-2020

Donald Trump 1.93
Kamala Harris 2.25
Robert Kennedy Jr 81.00

obviously Kamala is nothing near to Trump. but maybe the fake Rogan video posted by MSNBC telling Kamala will win is going to help. no one things that lady is going to win. even the Dems disliked her.

Stake is just late to the party, btw they updated the odds

(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/08/08/5rDHH.png)

U can check all bookies here:
https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/us-politics/us-presidential-election/winner

Kamala has turned favorite over at Betfair and paddydpower, all 3 latest polls put her winning 2 swing states so if those are accurate Trump is in trouble.

Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: babo on August 08, 2024, 12:02:24 PM
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Kamala has turned favorite over at Betfair and paddydpower, all 3 latest polls put her winning 2 swing states so if those are accurate Trump is in trouble.

both are at 2.10 so it indicates that the previous advantage of our dear blonde friend Donald has thinned
maybe he wasn't good at exploiting the fact of the attack, he didn't know how to take advantage of having been shot and having survived
interesting fight
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on August 09, 2024, 06:37:10 PM
(...) and the USA is highly politicized and that is not so good. Many rivalries are created between people who may think differently , and there is nothing worse than them becoming enemies because of Politics.

The extreme polarisation of the society is no longer only the US problem, it spreaded onto other European countries as well. Having family members becoming hostile to each other over political differences is not uncommon.
As bad as it is, the major parties tend to benefit from that quite nicely. Instead of actually presenting a comprehensive programme and being held accountable for not delivering on their promises the major selling point is now "the other party is bad, so vote for us" + creating a tribalistic environment and locking people in informational bubbles.
The worst thing about all this is that people start fighting over some politicians and they have no idea that they exist, so there is no point in fighting.

In the case of the USA, I never thought that this country would Become like this. It is one of the safest countries in the world, but now with so much politics things can happen in a very hostile way. I hope that whoever wins the elections, so that there will be no problems that affect its citizens, that there will be no problems, nor Confrontations between citizens from different political parties.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Stompix on August 09, 2024, 08:54:38 PM
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Kamala has turned favorite over at Betfair and paddydpower, all 3 latest polls put her winning 2 swing states so if those are accurate Trump is in trouble.

both are at 2.10 so it indicates that the previous advantage of our dear blonde friend Donald has thinned
maybe he wasn't good at exploiting the fact of the attack, he didn't know how to take advantage of having been shot and having survived
interesting fight

And it's gone:
Kamala Harris
2.00
Donald Trump
2.05
Robert Kennedy Jr
66.00

And no, Trump did take advantage of the shooting, that's why the went to 1.33, but again it was just because he was competing against Biden, if he were against some like Shapiro, Newsom or Buttiegieg he would not have had a single chance.
The Democrats are throwing the worst possible candidates at him and he might still lose.

Fortunately enough he opened his mouth to talk about crypto without someone handling his speech and most people involved in crypto have figured out what the buffon thinks crypto is, again only people from outside the US think crypto users in the States will trust the guy who slapped taxes on trading and on mining gear while he was president. As for his other promises, like freeing Ross, we know how WikiLeaks went:

Quote
Pre-2016: called WikiLeaks "disgraceful" & suggested Assange be "dealt with".
During 2016 election: praised WikiLeaks & encouraged more releases.
Post-2016: Trump administration pursued Assange with 17 indictments



Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: babo on August 12, 2024, 09:36:00 AM
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Kamala has turned favorite over at Betfair and paddydpower, all 3 latest polls put her winning 2 swing states so if those are accurate Trump is in trouble.

both are at 2.10 so it indicates that the previous advantage of our dear blonde friend Donald has thinned
maybe he wasn't good at exploiting the fact of the attack, he didn't know how to take advantage of having been shot and having survived
interesting fight

And it's gone:
Kamala Harris
2.00
Donald Trump
2.05
Robert Kennedy Jr
66.00

And no, Trump did take advantage of the shooting, that's why the went to 1.33, but again it was just because he was competing against Biden, if he were against some like Shapiro, Newsom or Buttiegieg he would not have had a single chance.
The Democrats are throwing the worst possible candidates at him and he might still lose.

Fortunately enough he opened his mouth to talk about crypto without someone handling his speech and most people involved in crypto have figured out what the buffon thinks crypto is, again only people from outside the US think crypto users in the States will trust the guy who slapped taxes on trading and on mining gear while he was president. As for his other promises, like freeing Ross, we know how WikiLeaks went:

Quote
Pre-2016: called WikiLeaks "disgraceful" & suggested Assange be "dealt with".
During 2016 election: praised WikiLeaks & encouraged more releases.
Post-2016: Trump administration pursued Assange with 17 indictments


The battle is really close, we cannot say that anyone is ahead of the other competitor. Only Kennedy is light years away from being truly worrying.
In any case, this will more or less be a fact that also influences our world: unfortunately, I dare say.
The adoption of Bitcoin also depends on this historical fact.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Stompix on August 12, 2024, 09:05:19 PM
The adoption of Bitcoin also depends on this historical fact.

Why?We had 4 years of Republicans and 12 years of Democrats, do you see anything wrong with adoption?
The US leads in almost every aspect of Bitcoin, whatever you think of, mining, nodes, companies, and investments, why would any of the parties have an influence on adoption anymore? If you haven't used Bitcoin till now or you haven't stumble upon it you won't no matter who's president.
I mean, there are twice as many Bitcoin ATMs in the US than Starbucks locations.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: SamReomo on August 12, 2024, 09:19:23 PM
I mean, there are twice as many Bitcoin ATMs in the US than Starbucks locations.
Yes, US has been doing quite good when it comes to Bitcoin. I believe it's one of the countries where people can mine and use Bitcoin without any issues.

I know that there were some strict policies of the US against some exchanges that caused fear in the minds of crypto community but overall they've been crypto friendly.

Let's see what difference we see once Trump gets elected as the president of the US this time.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: babo on August 13, 2024, 12:25:00 PM
The adoption of Bitcoin also depends on this historical fact.

Why?We had 4 years of Republicans and 12 years of Democrats, do you see anything wrong with adoption?
The US leads in almost every aspect of Bitcoin, whatever you think of, mining, nodes, companies, and investments, why would any of the parties have an influence on adoption anymore? If you haven't used Bitcoin till now or you haven't stumble upon it you won't no matter who's president.
I mean, there are twice as many Bitcoin ATMs in the US than Starbucks locations.

yes but the Dems now, on Joe Biden's proposal, want to set limits on self-custody.. they would actually like
it sounds a lot like when they waged war on PGP Pretty Good Privacy, absurd things that are neither in heaven nor on earth
sorry, but it's one thing to ask for security and it's another thing to put a state camera in your house, or not
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: giammangiato on August 13, 2024, 12:41:06 PM
...see what difference we see once Trump gets elected as the president of the US this time...

He certainly exaggerated with his promises, I am referring to Donald Trump, but it seems to me that the Democrats want to annoy the crypto world in a massive way because they stupidly think that we are all criminals. Among other things, Trump would pardon that poor boy Ulbrich, who has spent more years in prison than brutal murderers.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Stompix on August 13, 2024, 07:49:19 PM
yes but the Dems now, on Joe Biden's proposal, want to set limits on self-custody.. they would actually like
it sounds a lot like when they waged war on PGP Pretty Good Privacy, absurd things that are neither in heaven nor on earth
sorry, but it's one thing to ask for security and it's another thing to put a state camera in your house, or not

Nobody planned on banning self custody wallet, common, this is another fearmongering like we had before
[false] Denmark bans self-custodial wallets (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=322406.0)

SAB121 was about financial institutions, it had nothing to do with personal wallets and it actually was a good thing because it did force financial institutions to have a different balance sheet for customers' funds and a different wallet for those, so splitting the company money and the customer money. You know who has this law? Japan! And FTX Japan, had no problem paying back their customers exactly because of this.

This is SAB 121:
https://www.sec.gov/oca/staff-accounting-bulletin-121#_ftnref2
Where does it say anything about hosted wallets?
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: pawel7777 on August 13, 2024, 11:13:30 PM
Maybe it's not the right topic for this question, but has anyone watched the Musk interviewing Trump yesterday?
Some where speculating it could be bullish for Bitcoin/crypto and we've seen BTC going up by over 4% today. Have they been discussing crypto at all, or is it just coincidence?
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: bitterguy28 on August 14, 2024, 05:00:11 AM
Maybe it's not the right topic for this question, but has anyone watched the Musk interviewing Trump yesterday?
yes and elon was very keen on calling it a conversation rather an interview as he said there are things we wouldn’t fully know about trump if it was an interview and said he wants us to see trump for how he is as a person just having a conversation with another
Quote
Some where speculating it could be bullish for Bitcoin/crypto and we've seen BTC going up by over 4% today. Have they been discussing crypto at all, or is it just coincidence?
it’s just a coincidence because there was no mention of crypto at all during the discussion it lasted 2~ hours approximately or over that i think but they did not discuss it at all they did however talk about their partnership and how they can both achieve great things together
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: babo on August 14, 2024, 02:41:50 PM
yes but the Dems now, on Joe Biden's proposal, want to set limits on self-custody.. they would actually like
it sounds a lot like when they waged war on PGP Pretty Good Privacy, absurd things that are neither in heaven nor on earth
sorry, but it's one thing to ask for security and it's another thing to put a state camera in your house, or not

Nobody planned on banning self custody wallet, common, this is another fearmongering like we had before
[false] Denmark bans self-custodial wallets (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=322406.0)

SAB121 was about financial institutions, it had nothing to do with personal wallets and it actually was a good thing because it did force financial institutions to have a different balance sheet for customers' funds and a different wallet for those, so splitting the company money and the customer money. You know who has this law? Japan! And FTX Japan, had no problem paying back their customers exactly because of this.

This is SAB 121:
https://www.sec.gov/oca/staff-accounting-bulletin-121#_ftnref2
Where does it say anything about hosted wallets?

ah thank goodness, then this is fake news thrown by that stupid blond Donald
you can tell random lies just to win, do we want this kind of men who are in charge? Who with their mouths say white and with deeds say black?
Watch out for me, there's no nice politician, I hate them all.

For me is wrong the system
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on August 14, 2024, 07:26:26 PM
The battle is really close, we cannot say that anyone is ahead of the other competitor. Only Kennedy is light years away from being truly worrying.
In any case, this will more or less be a fact that also influences our world: unfortunately, I dare say.
The adoption of Bitcoin also depends on this historical fact.

Well I don't know, I see this policy as not difficult to decide, November 5th is approaching, a historic date, I think that everything that Trump has done shows that he is far ahead, let's see, the total dominance of the USA system obviously comes from Biden, can they dominate polls, can they dominate certain things? Yes, obviously, they are in power, as long as they have power they can manipulate everything, and one thing that I don't like is that in the USA they are becoming very political and playing very dirty, and just by doing a little zoom it is obvious that they have turned everything against Trump. Sometimes I see that they manipulate polls, news, among other things too much.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: target on August 14, 2024, 10:28:54 PM
The battle is really close, we cannot say that anyone is ahead of the other competitor. Only Kennedy is light years away from being truly worrying.
In any case, this will more or less be a fact that also influences our world: unfortunately, I dare say.
The adoption of Bitcoin also depends on this historical fact.

Well I don't know, I see this policy as not difficult to decide, November 5th is approaching, a historic date, I think that everything that Trump has done shows that he is far ahead, let's see, the total dominance of the USA system obviously comes from Biden, can they dominate polls, can they dominate certain things? Yes, obviously, they are in power, as long as they have power they can manipulate everything, and one thing that I don't like is that in the USA they are becoming very political and playing very dirty, and just by doing a little zoom it is obvious that they have turned everything against Trump. Sometimes I see that they manipulate polls, news, among other things too much.

This is nothing new in my country where the liberals are always manipulating polls and dominates in the news since they own the media in my country.

Something like this happenjng in US does not encourage parties from other countries to play fair in a democratic election. Whats in the news is that they are having new laws allowing immigrants to participate in election?
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Zed0X on August 14, 2024, 10:58:30 PM
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Whats in the news is that they are having new laws allowing immigrants to participate in election?
I think that's going to be a win for the Liberals ;D The number of people (mostly Hispanics) entering the US border tend to increase when one of their candidates is the sitting President no? I also remember how they criticized Trump for building the wall for strict border controls.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Jating on August 15, 2024, 03:22:04 AM
The battle is really close, we cannot say that anyone is ahead of the other competitor. Only Kennedy is light years away from being truly worrying.
In any case, this will more or less be a fact that also influences our world: unfortunately, I dare say.
The adoption of Bitcoin also depends on this historical fact.

Well I don't know, I see this policy as not difficult to decide, November 5th is approaching, a historic date, I think that everything that Trump has done shows that he is far ahead, let's see, the total dominance of the USA system obviously comes from Biden, can they dominate polls, can they dominate certain things? Yes, obviously, they are in power, as long as they have power they can manipulate everything, and one thing that I don't like is that in the USA they are becoming very political and playing very dirty, and just by doing a little zoom it is obvious that they have turned everything against Trump. Sometimes I see that they manipulate polls, news, among other things too much.

Trump is fighting against history though, Kamala is elected could be the first women to be the US President. So that is something that who knows, maybe it could happen or Trump "not allowing" that in his watch. Reports though shows that Kamala is now leading, maybe it depends on which media we follow. Before that, Trump is ahead by 2-3 points but now the tides has turn. Still plenty of time though, we have seen him losing early against Hilary Clinton is 2016, but in the last stretch of the campaign and following some controversies on Clinton, Trump was able to prevent history for Hillary to win. Maybe he can do it again? We don't know.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: giammangiato on August 15, 2024, 04:41:06 PM
I dont know, it seems like Trump is losing ground, I cant imagine what he will come up with to get back up in the polls as usual, he is always very creative in attracting attention. He really makes me laugh with his absurd outbursts and the meme-like faces he makes. It looks like a cartoon. :D
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on August 15, 2024, 06:58:59 PM
The battle is really close, we cannot say that anyone is ahead of the other competitor. Only Kennedy is light years away from being truly worrying.
In any case, this will more or less be a fact that also influences our world: unfortunately, I dare say.
The adoption of Bitcoin also depends on this historical fact.

Well I don't know, I see this policy as not difficult to decide, November 5th is approaching, a historic date, I think that everything that Trump has done shows that he is far ahead, let's see, the total dominance of the USA system obviously comes from Biden, can they dominate polls, can they dominate certain things? Yes, obviously, they are in power, as long as they have power they can manipulate everything, and one thing that I don't like is that in the USA they are becoming very political and playing very dirty, and just by doing a little zoom it is obvious that they have turned everything against Trump. Sometimes I see that they manipulate polls, news, among other things too much.

This is nothing new in my country where the liberals are always manipulating polls and dominates in the news since they own the media in my country.

Something like this happenjng in US does not encourage parties from other countries to play fair in a democratic election. Whats in the news is that they are having new laws allowing immigrants to participate in election?

Well if this is so, I think TRUMP will not come out very well, because if we are counting at least 2 or 3 million immigrants who have entered 4 years ago or maybe more, it is a figure that does not suit him, what Biden has played very well is giving the opportunity of easy entry to immigrants, in exchange Trump only wants immigrants with Visa entries, which seems great to me, but taking into account that the majority do not want that, well, it harms him. I am not very informed about that news, but even so I believe that Trump would continue to have a great advantage.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: target on August 15, 2024, 09:03:56 PM
The battle is really close, we cannot say that anyone is ahead of the other competitor. Only Kennedy is light years away from being truly worrying.
In any case, this will more or less be a fact that also influences our world: unfortunately, I dare say.
The adoption of Bitcoin also depends on this historical fact.

Well I don't know, I see this policy as not difficult to decide, November 5th is approaching, a historic date, I think that everything that Trump has done shows that he is far ahead, let's see, the total dominance of the USA system obviously comes from Biden, can they dominate polls, can they dominate certain things? Yes, obviously, they are in power, as long as they have power they can manipulate everything, and one thing that I don't like is that in the USA they are becoming very political and playing very dirty, and just by doing a little zoom it is obvious that they have turned everything against Trump. Sometimes I see that they manipulate polls, news, among other things too much.

This is nothing new in my country where the liberals are always manipulating polls and dominates in the news since they own the media in my country.

Something like this happenjng in US does not encourage parties from other countries to play fair in a democratic election. Whats in the news is that they are having new laws allowing immigrants to participate in election?

Well if this is so, I think TRUMP will not come out very well, because if we are counting at least 2 or 3 million immigrants who have entered 4 years ago or maybe more, it is a figure that does not suit him, what Biden has played very well is giving the opportunity of easy entry to immigrants, in exchange Trump only wants immigrants with Visa entries, which seems great to me, but taking into account that the majority do not want that, well, it harms him. I am not very informed about that news, but even so I believe that Trump would continue to have a great advantage.

He does have the advantage according to his supporters but the polls are changing at such short period of time since the Democrats nominated Harris.

The immigrants hate Trumo right?

And also Trump weren't able to take advantage of the assasination attempt to him. He probably will not do any rally in the wide audience in an open crowd. He might get killed the next time.

Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Gurujebs on August 15, 2024, 09:31:11 PM
This is nothing new in my country where the liberals are always manipulating polls and dominates in the news since they own the media in my country.

Something like this happenjng in US does not encourage parties from other countries to play fair in a democratic election. Whats in the news is that they are having new laws allowing immigrants to participate in election?

I always see Trump people cry alot about this Media thing controller by Biden and Kamala including Obama but I remembered when Trump was in office, he had the power to do the same and it was the same election Biden defeated Trump and unsit him from the office, where is the logical excuse in such statement about media been used against him.

Isn't Elon Musk dedicated his X space for him the other day and the platform servers were experiencing DOS attack. Don't know how true this is but the space couldn't contain many people, now imagine such statement coming from pro campaigners that Kamala and his friends control the media house, strange isn't.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: SamReomo on August 15, 2024, 11:14:58 PM
He certainly exaggerated with his promises, I am referring to Donald Trump, but it seems to me that the Democrats want to annoy the crypto world in a massive way because they stupidly think that we are all criminals.
Yes, that's true when it comes to Trump and to be honest we don't really care much about those democrats and we should not care about them at all. If they think that crypto community is a criminal community then that's their mindset and we can't change skeptical mindsets and that's why we should not care much about their point of view regarding crypto community.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: pawel7777 on August 15, 2024, 11:55:19 PM
In today's news, Trump hires Corey Lewandowski as one of his campaign advisers.
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/15/trump-campaign-brings-corey-lewandowski-back-on-board-00174155

Lewandowski was Trump's campaign manager back in 2016. Hiring him back is probably a bid to win back votes of the more conservative right in the likes of America First movement.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Captain Corporate on August 16, 2024, 12:34:26 AM
I mean the whole "liberals allowing mexicans to cross the border so they would vote" is a cliche at this point, you think they are all distributed to swing states and close ones and shared in tens of thousands without anyone making a fuss about it and just letting them vote? Of course not, of course we all know this isn't the case, illegal immigrants are another issue that republicans talk about, but we all know the number isn't even nearly enough. The party that won just one popular vote in 30 years will cry foul of course because they can't go out and say "well not enough people like us", that would be silly, so they try to blame losing to something, whatever they can find. Last time it was election rigging, this time illegals, next time could be something else, who knows what it will be.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: giammangiato on August 16, 2024, 04:41:06 PM
In today's news, Trump hires Corey Lewandowski as one of his campaign advisers....

first with Joe Biden it seemed like an easy thing for Trump who wasnt trying hard enough in my opinion, with Kamala Harris entry into the field I see him as a little dull, as if he no longer had any ideas or rather as if he had no way of understanding how to respond to a person who can think (and walk)
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Stompix on August 17, 2024, 09:21:39 PM
ah thank goodness, then this is fake news thrown by that stupid blond Donald
you can tell random lies just to win, do we want this kind of men who are in charge? Who with their mouths say white and with deeds say black?
Watch out for me, there's no nice politician, I hate them all.

For me is wrong the system

If you have two choices and you don't like either of them you vote for the lesser evil.
We had Trump a guy who was president and did everything bad for crypto and called it a scam, putting taxes on it, tariffs, and so on, and now he promises us he will build ..lol. I was going to say wall, but no, a crypto paradise,  and then you have Harris who, well, hasn't yet said anything about crypto at all.

In my opinion, the choice is to trust a guy who is known to lie and promise things versus one that doesn't really care about it, we have all that fearmongering that democrats are against crypto but look at the adoptions rate in the US in the last 4 years, does it look like they want to destroy crypto?

I think that's going to be a win for the Liberals ;D The number of people (mostly Hispanics) entering the US border tend to increase when one of their candidates is the sitting President no? I also remember how they criticized Trump for building the wall for strict border controls.

De Santis has comfortably won the majority of Hispanic votes for almost every niche, from Cubans to Porto Rican, so the ethnicity is not a guarantee. it's more about the man, and Trump claiming he will flee to Venezuela to be safe in case he is losing the election is not a joke millions of people who have fled that country will take well.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: pawel7777 on August 18, 2024, 12:33:00 AM
OK, what went wrong for Trump since the failed assassination attempt, when he was said to be guaranteed a win?
I just checked the odds and he's an underdog again with odds at x2.10 compared to Kamala's x1.73.
I don't expect Kamala to have any organic support and all of her voting base would be hard democrats electorate (who would vote for any Democratic nominee) and negative Trump voters.
Do you think polls are wrong, or has Trump lost the momentum that badly?
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: summonerrk on August 18, 2024, 09:23:25 PM
Recently they wrote how much Trump managed to earn on his memetokens. And I will say honestly that I am amazed at how he knows how to make money everywhere. He is already many years old, but his ability to see the benefit everywhere and achieve it amazes me. That is why many people call him the Trader. But is this bad for the presidency? I don’t think so
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: babo on August 19, 2024, 11:00:04 AM
ah thank goodness, then this is fake news thrown by that stupid blond Donald
you can tell random lies just to win, do we want this kind of men who are in charge? Who with their mouths say white and with deeds say black?
Watch out for me, there's no nice politician, I hate them all.

For me is wrong the system

If you have two choices and you don't like either of them you vote for the lesser evil.
We had Trump a guy who was president and did everything bad for crypto and called it a scam, putting taxes on it, tariffs, and so on, and now he promises us he will build ..lol. I was going to say wall, but no, a crypto paradise,  and then you have Harris who, well, hasn't yet said anything about crypto at all.

In my opinion, the choice is to trust a guy who is known to lie and promise things versus one that doesn't really care about it, we have all that fearmongering that democrats are against crypto but look at the adoptions rate in the US in the last 4 years, does it look like they want to destroy crypto?

I think that's going to be a win for the Liberals ;D The number of people (mostly Hispanics) entering the US border tend to increase when one of their candidates is the sitting President no? I also remember how they criticized Trump for building the wall for strict border controls.

De Santis has comfortably won the majority of Hispanic votes for almost every niche, from Cubans to Porto Rican, so the ethnicity is not a guarantee. it's more about the man, and Trump claiming he will flee to Venezuela to be safe in case he is losing the election is not a joke millions of people who have fled that country will take well.

I see you very polarized, I see you very pushed towards Kamala Harris

I don't judge you

but you can well understand that I, who hate both, am much more impartial than you (me)
the Dems do nothing but export war and bombs, the Nobel Prize for "peace" Obama has fought more wars than his predecessors
I don't know whether it's right or wrong for USA, but it's definitely wrong to waste money on bombs, war, destruction and human lives lost

with this I am not saying that the republicans are saints, indeed they are such and such
but it's good to say things as they are and not pass off as saints those who are a piece of shit (the dems)
is just for put the stuff on clear path

Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on August 19, 2024, 10:12:59 PM
The battle is really close, we cannot say that anyone is ahead of the other competitor. Only Kennedy is light years away from being truly worrying.
In any case, this will more or less be a fact that also influences our world: unfortunately, I dare say.
The adoption of Bitcoin also depends on this historical fact.

Well I don't know, I see this policy as not difficult to decide, November 5th is approaching, a historic date, I think that everything that Trump has done shows that he is far ahead, let's see, the total dominance of the USA system obviously comes from Biden, can they dominate polls, can they dominate certain things? Yes, obviously, they are in power, as long as they have power they can manipulate everything, and one thing that I don't like is that in the USA they are becoming very political and playing very dirty, and just by doing a little zoom it is obvious that they have turned everything against Trump. Sometimes I see that they manipulate polls, news, among other things too much.

This is nothing new in my country where the liberals are always manipulating polls and dominates in the news since they own the media in my country.

Something like this happenjng in US does not encourage parties from other countries to play fair in a democratic election. Whats in the news is that they are having new laws allowing immigrants to participate in election?

Well if this is so, I think TRUMP will not come out very well, because if we are counting at least 2 or 3 million immigrants who have entered 4 years ago or maybe more, it is a figure that does not suit him, what Biden has played very well is giving the opportunity of easy entry to immigrants, in exchange Trump only wants immigrants with Visa entries, which seems great to me, but taking into account that the majority do not want that, well, it harms him. I am not very informed about that news, but even so I believe that Trump would continue to have a great advantage.

He does have the advantage according to his supporters but the polls are changing at such short period of time since the Democrats nominated Harris.

The immigrants hate Trumo right?

And also Trump weren't able to take advantage of the assasination attempt to him. He probably will not do any rally in the wide audience in an open crowd. He might get killed the next time.

It is a fact that some immigrants will not support Trump because immigration policies will change drastically, those who entered the USA through routes from Darien, Parole, Trump himself will eliminate all those agreements and propose that they enter through legal means such as Visa and following the laws without changes or amendments.

I see the situation in the USA as very intriguing, because it is very politicized and that is not good, the USA is a country that must set an Example , even if whoever wins they have to have a congress that supports the decisions of a president.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: target on August 19, 2024, 10:31:58 PM

During the time when Trump was the president, he deported a lot of immigrants iirc. But the black voters though is on his side which was the reason Kamala was trying to sway.

3 months left for the campaign so there is much for Kamala to do to win the black and crypto users,  she may never be able to do it. There may never be debate between the two. There were no talks about debate between Kamala vs Trump.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on August 20, 2024, 06:08:27 PM

During the time when Trump was the president, he deported a lot of immigrants iirc. But the black voters though is on his side which was the reason Kamala was trying to sway.

3 months left for the campaign so there is much for Kamala to do to win the black and crypto users,  she may never be able to do it. There may never be debate between the two. There were no talks about debate between Kamala vs Trump.

And that is very bad, there should be a debate between Trump and Kamala to see how it can develop, for me Kamala is not up to the task, she is a candidate who came out as a consequence of Biden's inability to be a candidate, so how did the Democratic Party suddenly come out like that and did not concentrate well on choosing a good opponent, some say that the polls claim that she can be equally or further ahead of Trump? For me there is no veracity there, besides, I have seen that the organizations in the USA have been very corrupt.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Agbe on August 20, 2024, 08:37:10 PM
I am happy that American Citizens.or the electorates votes are counted. But in Africa Nigeria in particular, if Biden was a Nigerian, he would have come back for reelection. And if says that he would not contest again but the greedy and corrupt politicians would asked him to come back again so that they can control him and embezzled the State funds. And I heard that it was after a debate between Trump and Biden and Biden could not withstand with Trump or he was absent so Democrat brought Kalama Harris to face Trump bit according to Biden, he step aside or step down for the interest of the party.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Stompix on August 22, 2024, 11:30:24 PM

I see you very polarized, I see you very pushed towards Kamala Harris

Not at all, if I could vote I would vote for a stick, a donkey, a pile of feces if they were competing against Trump.

And this not because I like democrats, is because Tumpo has made a mockery out of the republican party, for people from Eastern Europe we were happy with Reagan, he saved us from the USSR by driving them into the ground. I would have voted for McCain and I would have voted for Pence or Nikki Haley but no, when it comes to Trump I would campaign for anything that runs against him, maybe only if he ran against Hitler or Stalin I would support him.

I don't know whether it's right or wrong for USA, but it's definitely wrong to waste money on bombs, war, destruction and human lives lost

And yet it's Russia, NK, and Iran that threaten every day to erase Europe from the map with nuclear strikes. Do you know how many times has Russia threatened to level my capital city? How many times has the US threatened with such destruction?
I look at NK and SK and I wonder which is better, why is Vietnam seeking US help, and why is the Philippines doing the same,? Why is every country close to Russia or China scared and running towards the US for protection?
And furthermore, why is everyone fleeing to the US, people from China, India, Africa, South America, and nobody going in the other direction?

If you think the US is bad wait till China or Russia have the same power, oh wait...we already saw what they did when they had it!  ;)

Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: babo on September 03, 2024, 10:11:28 AM

I see you very polarized, I see you very pushed towards Kamala Harris

Not at all, if I could vote I would vote for a stick, a donkey, a pile of feces if they were competing against Trump.

And this not because I like democrats, is because Tumpo has made a mockery out of the republican party, for people from Eastern Europe we were happy with Reagan, he saved us from the USSR by driving them into the ground. I would have voted for McCain and I would have voted for Pence or Nikki Haley but no, when it comes to Trump I would campaign for anything that runs against him, maybe only if he ran against Hitler or Stalin I would support him.

I don't know whether it's right or wrong for USA, but it's definitely wrong to waste money on bombs, war, destruction and human lives lost

And yet it's Russia, NK, and Iran that threaten every day to erase Europe from the map with nuclear strikes. Do you know how many times has Russia threatened to level my capital city? How many times has the US threatened with such destruction?
I look at NK and SK and I wonder which is better, why is Vietnam seeking US help, and why is the Philippines doing the same,? Why is every country close to Russia or China scared and running towards the US for protection?
And furthermore, why is everyone fleeing to the US, people from China, India, Africa, South America, and nobody going in the other direction?

If you think the US is bad wait till China or Russia have the same power, oh wait...we already saw what they did when they had it!  ;)

ahaha mi hai fatto veramente ridere
well voting for everyone except Trump doesn't seem like a good "strategy" to me, even in his being crazy there are pros
for example he's not a guy who wages wars but he likes to play with tariffs
I don't know what's worse, if I really had to vote, I tell you honestly, I would be in complete difficulty
I envy you that you have clear ideas
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Stompix on September 03, 2024, 11:38:55 AM
ahaha mi hai fatto veramente ridere
well voting for everyone except Trump doesn't seem like a good "strategy" to me, even in his being crazy there are pros

It's not a good strategy, it's avoiding a thing we have already seen for 4 years and we know he won't do shit of what he promises but because right now he will have nothing to lose (he can't run the 3rd time for president) he won't care anymore about the consequences so prepare for shit show!

I envy you that you have clear ideas

Having clear ideas can also mean that I'm clearly wrong on something, so it's not really something to be envied, especially if you're biased when taking that stance.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: babo on September 03, 2024, 11:43:30 AM
certainly you can have a clear idea, but a wrong idea
Unfortunately I think from a purely engineering point of view
I try to fight everything that is wasteful... and war is a waste of lives, money and time
destruction and violence are always the last resort of the incapable as Savior Hardin says
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: electronicash on September 03, 2024, 11:34:30 PM
certainly you can have a clear idea, but a wrong idea
Unfortunately I think from a purely engineering point of view
I try to fight everything that is wasteful... and war is a waste of lives, money and time
destruction and violence are always the last resort of the incapable as Savior Hardin says

the world is to be conquered which is its nature to men. war could be the last resort but if you have made lots of enemies in the past like the US did, war is always on the table.
they show weakness to their enemies, the enemies are going to come and if the US fails. they are going to be the bogeyman in the future. right now the world leaders made Germany, China and Russia the antagonist to the world. but once the world leader fails, it will be their time.

from within, US is already having a war of their own. gangs seizing peoples home and police not ever fighting those crimes, and fentanyl just easy to buy. this is like what happened to China before they fall. but they are rising up again.

Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: SamReomo on September 04, 2024, 12:59:14 AM
I try to fight everything that is wasteful... and war is a waste of lives, money and time
destruction and violence are always the last resort of the incapable as Savior Hardin says
Yes, it's true and I agree, war should always be the last resort but should be avoided if things aren't close to that last resort. I'm someone who's also against the philosophy of war as it brings so much envy and hatred towards the people who actually haven't done anything wrong to your or your family but in rage those people are also considered as enemies and thousands of innocent people die in those wars.

But, when things are out of control and you've no other option then at those times war becomes mandatory, and at that time avoiding war would be a big mistake which one can't even regret. Still, I would say that war should be avoided at any cost because war is the number 1 killer of peace and prosperity if war happens then it will destroy peace and prosperity.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: babo on September 04, 2024, 03:28:25 PM
I try to fight everything that is wasteful... and war is a waste of lives, money and time
destruction and violence are always the last resort of the incapable as Savior Hardin says
Yes, it's true and I agree, war should always be the last resort but should be avoided if things aren't close to that last resort. I'm someone who's also against the philosophy of war as it brings so much envy and hatred towards the people who actually haven't done anything wrong to your or your family but in rage those people are also considered as enemies and thousands of innocent people die in those wars.

But, when things are out of control and you've no other option then at those times war becomes mandatory, and at that time avoiding war would be a big mistake which one can't even regret. Still, I would say that war should be avoided at any cost because war is the number 1 killer of peace and prosperity if war happens then it will destroy peace and prosperity.

Exactly, above all I remember seeing a beautiful video in which he talked about space colonization.
With the immense and infinite space we are arguing on planet earth, instead of throwing missiles at each other we should go into space to mine materials and look for other things.
But no, we spend money on bullshit and weapons to kill each other.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on September 04, 2024, 11:47:19 PM
from within, US is already having a war of their own. gangs seizing peoples home and police not ever fighting those crimes, and fentanyl just easy to buy. this is like what happened to China before they fall. but they are rising up again.

I think that all the countries in the world have their dark side, what I have realized is that in the most developed countries there is a very hidden evil but that is destroying many things, despite the fact that it never comes to light publicly, however, for something like that you need radicalism, and someone who is willing to bring it to light publicly, for me Trump is a person like that, I don't know, he's daring, he's not afraid of anything, now I see the democrats as very scared, in the case of Kamala I don't like that they banned X, it's a social network, why are they going to take away freedom of expression? just like in Venezuela and Brazil, although dictators could be said to be stupid, because people still enter with VPN, what counts is the intention, it is speculated that Harris is from a socialist / communist current, is that true? they feel it that way in the USA.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Captain Corporate on September 05, 2024, 12:01:07 AM
There has been %10 increase in homelessness, and that is definitely something that they should work on, but considering this is the USA we are talking about and they do go Darwinian capitalism most of the time, it means that people who do those drugs and stay homeless will end up solving the problem themselves eventually. That a sad and cold truth that nobody would like to point this way, but its also the reality as well. Sure there are problems with both sides, which is why they have two parties, so you pick the one that fits your ideas better, but do not act like one of them is evil and the other is an angel, both of them suck most of the time.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: pawel7777 on September 05, 2024, 12:22:17 AM
Alright, so I hear that Kamala Harris mentioned her intention to increase capital gains tax as well as express her support for unrealised gains tax for the richest, which sparked a lot of controversies resulting in a drop in poll ratings:
https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/4859946-vice-president-kamala-harris-tax/

I know there might be a lot of people here who think the "normal" taxation is already a theft, but taxing people on unrealised gains is a next-level evil. Anyone who supports this should be banned from politics for life.

But yeah, that's surely a good news for Trump.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: babo on September 05, 2024, 06:45:14 PM
Alright, so I hear that Kamala Harris mentioned her intention to increase capital gains tax as well as express her support for unrealised gains tax for the richest, which sparked a lot of controversies resulting in a drop in poll ratings:
https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/4859946-vice-president-kamala-harris-tax/

I know there might be a lot of people here who think the "normal" taxation is already a theft, but taxing people on unrealised gains is a next-level evil. Anyone who supports this should be banned from politics for life.

But yeah, that's surely a good news for Trump.

I like this thing
Taxing those who have more money is the right thing, the question that comes to mind when thinking about this is, will he really do it?
they always promise and then ebay amazon facebook microsoft apple and google pay practically nothing in taxes.. in fact they pay taxes that are laughable
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: electronicash on September 05, 2024, 07:16:49 PM
Alright, so I hear that Kamala Harris mentioned her intention to increase capital gains tax as well as express her support for unrealised gains tax for the richest, which sparked a lot of controversies resulting in a drop in poll ratings:
https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/4859946-vice-president-kamala-harris-tax/

I know there might be a lot of people here who think the "normal" taxation is already a theft, but taxing people on unrealised gains is a next-level evil. Anyone who supports this should be banned from politics for life.

But yeah, that's surely a good news for Trump.

I like this thing
Taxing those who have more money is the right thing, the question that comes to mind when thinking about this is, will he really do it?
they always promise and then ebay amazon facebook microsoft apple and google pay practically nothing in taxes.. in fact they pay taxes that are laughable

the question should be  will the rich vote for kamala because of her plan for their money?

she almost got the votes from the black community and now she ruins it with such announcement. but Trump is going to keep the advantage with such news. she is now currently losing the polls by the way.

because of he economy i think trump may also do this  taxing but he may not be announcing this too early but he is one of the few rich who had been circumventing the system to evade but yep Trump had already exposed this hole before.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: babo on September 05, 2024, 09:28:58 PM
the question should be  will the rich vote for kamala because of her plan for their money?

she almost got the votes from the black community and now she ruins it with such announcement. but Trump is going to keep the advantage with such news. she is now currently losing the polls by the way.

because of he economy i think trump may also do this  taxing but he may not be announcing this too early but he is one of the few rich who had been circumventing the system to evade but yep Trump had already exposed this hole before.

clearly the rich will not vote for Kamala since he threatens them
but in this way, if after being elected she does not keep her promise, the votes of her deceived voters are also at stake
I don't know how it works in the USA, but in Italy politicians promise things that they don't keep, practically always
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Captain Corporate on September 05, 2024, 09:50:07 PM
I love the fact that what she is proposing will impact probably just a few people, literally the Elon Musk and jeff bezos's of the nation and the people who can buy a 100 meter yacht if they want to with just a single click of their fingers, and yet this drops the poll rating for millions. People are really stupid when it comes to rich people's money, I have no idea how the rich managed to do this, but whenever a politician offers to get more from the rich and help the poor, the poor defend the rich, that is both funny but also shocking and I have no clue how that happened. Tens of millions, even hundreds of millions should get together and ask the rich to pay their fair share of taxes, and instead they just support them paying less taxes, they are really morons :D
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Themepen on September 05, 2024, 09:55:23 PM
I think that all the countries in the world have their dark side, what I have realized is that in the most developed countries there is a very hidden evil but that is destroying many things, despite the fact that it never comes to light publicly, however, for something like that you need radicalism, and someone who is willing to bring it to light publicly, for me Trump is a person like that, I don't know, he's daring, he's not afraid of anything, now I see the democrats as very scared, in the case of Kamala I don't like that they banned X, it's a social network, why are they going to take away freedom of expression? just like in Venezuela and Brazil, although dictators could be said to be stupid, because people still enter with VPN, what counts is the intention, it is speculated that Harris is from a socialist / communist current, is that true? they feel it that way in the USA.
I agree that all countries have secrets that people do not know about. I think Trump is brave to talk about these problems even if it means saying things that might shock people. But I also think it is important for people to be able to say what they think and banning social networks like X is bad idea. It is worrying that politicians like Kamala Harris want to censor people opinions.

I understand why they might want to but I think it is a mistake and could make people trust each other less. When people find ways to get around bans like using VPNs it shows that trying to control what people say does not work. Instead of this we should focus on being honest and open with each other.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: babo on September 06, 2024, 10:43:28 AM
tomorrow we will have the debate between the two
what do you expect? I always repeat my mantra, I do not negotiate for Kamala Harris or for Donald Trump
Donald Trump seems to me like Silvio Berlusconi, a nice criminal and chatterbox
Kamala Harris seems like a slimy viper to me
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Jating on September 06, 2024, 10:58:57 AM
tomorrow we will have the debate between the two
what do you expect? I always repeat my mantra, I do not negotiate for Kamala Harris or for Donald Trump
Donald Trump seems to me like Silvio Berlusconi, a nice criminal and chatterbox
Kamala Harris seems like a slimy viper to me

I'm not from the States so it's hard to see who is going to win. But let's see how the debate goes first, we all know how big mouth Donald Trump is, he is the alpha or more of a sigma.

But I do think that Kamala Harris is not going to be intimidated by the old man.

So far Trump lead by a slim margin, as per Stake, Trump to win 1.92, Harris 2.10.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: electronicash on September 06, 2024, 10:44:42 PM
I love the fact that what she is proposing will impact probably just a few people, literally the Elon Musk and jeff bezos's of the nation and the people who can buy a 100 meter yacht if they want to with just a single click of their fingers, and yet this drops the poll rating for millions. People are really stupid when it comes to rich people's money, I have no idea how the rich managed to do this, but whenever a politician offers to get more from the rich and help the poor, the poor defend the rich, that is both funny but also shocking and I have no clue how that happened. Tens of millions, even hundreds of millions should get together and ask the rich to pay their fair share of taxes, and instead they just support them paying less taxes, they are really morons :D

the poor couldn't defend themselves, so they can't defend the rich either.  its just logic telling how much support Kamala get from the rich if she propose to tax them high. the rich like Elon and bezos and their likes doesn't pay much. but its the rich who are just as making honest living with no connection to the government officials and won't be choosing panama to hide their wealth.

this is likely a fight between the evil vs lesser evil. and the people know they suffer much today than the time when Trump was the president.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Captain Corporate on September 07, 2024, 12:02:48 AM
While it is provably wrong that people are doing worse now under Biden than Trump, it is also important to remember that Kamala is the VP not the president, so even if you think Bidens 4 years was better than Trumps, doesn't mean Kamalas will be, nor does it mean if you think Bidens 4 year was worse than Trumps, it would be same for Kamala. However, the "rich got rich with honest living" is something so sick to think, jeff bezos got 10 billion just to fly to orbit, he used it to buy james bonds rights, elon musk gets subs from the government left and right for everything from energy to his cars to space travel, every single rich you see out there, either gets money from the government, or doesn't pay the government what they owe, while paying people less than survival wages. One example is jeff bezos pays entry level jobs so low that government has to pay those people welfare, so Americans are paying amazon workers welfare just because jeff bezos doesn't want to pay much to entry level workers. I can list even more stuff, but rich are not rich because they are making honest living, they are evil and they should be taxed a lot more.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on September 09, 2024, 10:22:44 PM
I agree that all countries have secrets that people do not know about. I think Trump is brave to talk about these problems even if it means saying things that might shock people. But I also think it is important for people to be able to say what they think and banning social networks like X is bad idea. It is worrying that politicians like Kamala Harris want to censor people opinions.

I understand why they might want to but I think it is a mistake and could make people trust each other less. When people find ways to get around bans like using VPNs it shows that trying to control what people say does not work. Instead of this we should focus on being honest and open with each other.

Personally, I start from something, a very personal principle of mine, and that is that knowledge should be free. For me, doing this type of thing is always bad. Preventing or encouraging people to do things like this only opens up people's Interest much more so that they don't give up,  That's how it works Politicians like Harris should be smarter. If they don't like a social network, they should ignore it, not give it importance  , but they do the opposite and that causes annoyance. I think that for that reason and many more, Trump could beat them by a Landslide.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: pawel7777 on September 09, 2024, 11:15:28 PM
On Thursday, Vladimir Putin said that Russia would back Kamala Harris in the upcoming election, which came as a surprise to many.
To me it's an obvious bluff. Putin knows that his endorsement will have a negative effect on voting results, so he said he prefers Kamala. Obviously he truly prefers whoever is more likely to end the war and support the peace agreement, which is probably Trump, although I wouldn't be so sure.
I'm not sure what's the average American's sentiment towards the war in Ukraine though. Since the US is not directly involved, I imagine people are probably not bothered too much.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: babo on September 10, 2024, 10:46:55 AM
today we will finally have the debate or duel between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump
I expect to hear news about crypto and bitcoin in the political duel
I'm really curious to know what they'll talk about

will anyone follow him? If it would be nice and kind if you gave us some sort of report
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Kemarit on September 10, 2024, 05:54:38 PM
today we will finally have the debate or duel between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump
I expect to hear news about crypto and bitcoin in the political duel
I'm really curious to know what they'll talk about

will anyone follow him? If it would be nice and kind if you gave us some sort of report

Definitely, we will follow it as fellow crypto enthusiast. Others have been saying as well that this is the reason why the price suddenly goes to $57,000 in the last 24 hours or at least a 3% increased.

Hopefully, we can hear their stance or crypto, although we have seen Trump and his political party as they put it in their agenda. While Harris and her party are anti-crypto, at least that's what we have seen in the current administration of Biden.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: pawel7777 on September 10, 2024, 10:40:23 PM
I think we all know that Kamala has close to zero "positive" support (meaning people who would vote for her because they like what she represents). It's all about pro-Trumpers Vs anti-Trumpers, there's no such thing as pro-Kamala. So I think it's ultimately down to Trump and how he behaves in the last month of the campaign.

I wouldn't be surprised if Kamala gets the win. If her handlers were to tell her to tone down with controversial opinions (i.e. unrealised gains tax) and focus on just looking normal and not unhinged, she could jump up in polls. Trump has a solid base of boomer voters but seems to be losing the votes of younger conservatives, who are disappointed by his first term as well as being pro-Israel first, rather than pro-USA.
Also, he has almost no 2016 vibe left.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Captain Corporate on September 10, 2024, 10:53:32 PM
This is quite right, and there was nearly zero pro-biden neither, nobody really cared about Biden or to be fair any other candidate neither. There was a huge following of Bernie Sanders, if he got the nomination there would be a ton of pro-bernie people, but aside from him, everyone else just nominated because they were not trump and that's how the election went. Even if Hillary had the nomination once again, she would have won that time, it was clear. This time its not just about what trump does, its about its been 4 years since trump left, so its about if people forgot about it or not.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Jating on September 11, 2024, 11:04:09 AM
Now the debate is over, who do you think win on that?

It seems that Kamala Harris experience as a prosecutor was evident on the debate and Trump was on the defensive. But he knows how to detract or retreated to immigration, as he knows that this could be his deciding votes will come.

And as per Stake, Kamala Harris is now the favorite to win at 1.95, against Trump at 2.05
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: babo on September 11, 2024, 01:49:26 PM
a person who saw it told me that it was a rally and not a real debate
- embarrassing choice of questions
- fact checking only for Donald Trump
- questions asked ad hoc to favor someone
- journalists in favor of Kamala Harris, no questions about her extremist past

I'm not interested in either of them but I invite you to reflect ;)
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: pawel7777 on September 11, 2024, 05:46:30 PM
Has anyone seen the whole debate? What are your opinions?
I've seen Elon Musk tweeting (or X-ing?) that Kamala looked much better than expected and that the debate hosts were showing strong anti-Trump bias. If it's true that Kamala knew questions beforehand and if Trump got hard-ball ones, then no wonder she looked like a winner.
I haven't seen in, but people are saying that it shouldn't have any effect on the polls, but we'll see.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Stompix on September 11, 2024, 09:19:10 PM
Hopefully, we can hear their stance or crypto, although we have seen Trump and his political party as they put it in their agenda. While Harris and her party are anti-crypto, at least that's what we have seen in the current administration of Biden.

So now you have it, not a single word, he totally forgot about crypto, no wonder!
It was about time some realized he was here only for the hype!

Has anyone seen the whole debate? What are your opinions?
I've seen Elon Musk tweeting (or X-ing?) that Kamala looked much better than expected and that the debate hosts were showing strong anti-Trump bias. If it's true that Kamala knew questions beforehand and if Trump got hard-ball ones, then no wonder she looked like a winner.

Yeah, yeah, she simply trashed him!
The moment he starts talking about immigrants stealing and eating pets you know he lost it!

Directly from Fox:
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/trump-harris-face-off-there-clear-winner-dont-believe-election-over
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It’s pretty clear to me that on Tuesday night, Vice President Kamala Harris won what may be the only debate between herself and former President Trump.
If fox says that, imagine how bad it was!
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: babo on September 12, 2024, 03:13:03 PM
..
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It’s pretty clear to me that on Tuesday night, Vice President Kamala Harris won what may be the only debate between herself and former President Trump.
If fox says that, imagine how bad it was!

With the journalist who did fact checking only with Donald Trump
like the cat thing

Trump: Ohio people eat Cats (LOOOL)
Presenter after 10 seconds: it's not true, we called the mayor (LOOOL)

so how did you call the mayor in 10 seconds and get the answer

we don't talk bullshit

then I repeat both, Donald Trump and Kamala Harris are pieces of shit
so the talk is embarassing for both
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Lucius on September 12, 2024, 03:51:23 PM
~snip~
then I repeat both, Donald Trump and Kamala Harris are pieces of shit
so the talk is embarassing for both


I would not use such a term for a person who is literally a "little baby" for DT, given that the man has as many as 34 indictments (if I'm not mistaken). Something is definitely rotten in the US if such a man is not in prison but is a candidate for president.



~snip~
So now you have it, not a single word, he totally forgot about crypto, no wonder!
It was about time some realized he was here only for the hype!
---
Yeah, yeah, she simply trashed him!
The moment he starts talking about immigrants stealing and eating pets you know he lost it!


Anyone with a little better tactics can beat DT, because the man is definitely getting further and further away from reality, he mentions things that are strange to say the least. While he talks about eaten pets, his Minister for Technology Mr. Mars is publicly offering to make children for pop star - now it's just a question of how low they can go ::)

+1
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Stompix on September 12, 2024, 04:44:12 PM
Trump: Ohio people eat Cats (LOOOL)
Presenter after 10 seconds: it's not true, we called the mayor (LOOOL)
so how did you call the mayor in 10 seconds and get the answer
we don't talk bullshit

Seriously?
The claim was made Monday by Vance, the report from both the police and the mayor about no such thing happening where public before the debate, it was a known fact
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/misinformation/jd-vance-ohio-police-no-reports-haitian-immigrants-harming-pets-rcna170271

Are you seriously defending the guy claiming immigrants steal cats and dogs to eat and that liberals want to kill babies after they are born?
Pizzagate? Common!

Anyone with a little better tactics can beat DT, because the man is definitely getting further and further away from reality, he mentions things that are strange to say the least. While he talks about eaten pets, his Minister for Technology Mr. Mars is publicly offering to make children for pop star - now it's just a question of how low they can go ::)

Oh yeah, the now beloved Musk, who once was the most hated man because he sold his Bitcoisn and claimed Bitcoin minignis bad for the Earth.
The short memory of trumpists is astonishing to say the least!
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: babo on September 13, 2024, 09:53:35 AM
Trump: Ohio people eat Cats (LOOOL)
Presenter after 10 seconds: it's not true, we called the mayor (LOOOL)
so how did you call the mayor in 10 seconds and get the answer
we don't talk bullshit

Seriously?
The claim was made Monday by Vance, the report from both the police and the mayor about no such thing happening where public before the debate, it was a known fact
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/misinformation/jd-vance-ohio-police-no-reports-haitian-immigrants-harming-pets-rcna170271

Are you seriously defending the guy claiming immigrants steal cats and dogs to eat and that liberals want to kill babies after they are born?
Pizzagate? Common!

I don't defend anyone, I've always said that I dislike Donald Trump
I disliked Silvio Berlusconi, they are both the same

you're the one taking sides, not me
I say things as I see them, objectively

to Mrs. Kamala Harris it is not. No awkward or difficult questions were asked LOLOLOL
no questions about his past, of Kamala... TROLOL2



so ask yourself a question, yes the talk was a trap for Donald Trump, right wrong I don't care
I don't care if the wars end, but I don't care which of the two pieces of shit is president
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: pawel7777 on September 25, 2024, 12:08:51 AM
Why are people, including some experts of opinion that Bitcoin could tank if Kamala is elected as the POTUS?
Some examples of news articles:
Bitcoin: Could a Kamala Harris Victory Signal a Rough Ride for the Bulls? (https://uk.investing.com/analysis/bitcoin-could-a-kamala-harris-victory-signal-a-rough-ride-for-the-bulls-200613921)
Bernstein predicts a bitcoin price of $80-90k if Trump wins presidential race, or $30-40k if Harris is elected (https://www.theblock.co/post/315249/bernstein-bitcoin-price-trump-harris)

It doesn't make sense to me, she (or the group that she's a part of) has been in power for the last 4 year and not only have they not did any major harm to Bitcoin, but also during their watch we've seen approval of the spot ETFs, meaning any ideas of delegalising Bitcoin are close to impossible. The KYC requirements are already as strict as it gets, so I don't see any major risk here, unless I'm missing something.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: babo on September 25, 2024, 08:56:36 PM
so many things don't make sense in the political world, we could fill an entire encyclopedia
I don't like either of them, I just can't stand them both

my only hope would be the end of the ongoing wars where so many innocent people pay for the wicked choices of those who only have to sell weapons
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Jating on September 26, 2024, 07:03:40 AM
so many things don't make sense in the political world, we could fill an entire encyclopedia
I don't like either of them, I just can't stand them both

my only hope would be the end of the ongoing wars where so many innocent people pay for the wicked choices of those who only have to sell weapons

I guess we there are a lot of us here who doesn't like any of them candidates.

But the thing is that, there are betting options here right now, and there are possibilities that we can make a lot of money here. Trump is the slight underdog, so regardless of what our views and political affiliations, if we talk about making money, we might go with the underdog so that we will get a good profits, just saying.

However, if this thread is about debates and what's not, then others can go at it for as long as they can.

But since this in the gambling board, all we care is what are the odds are, specially for non-US gamblers and who is going to win.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: babo on September 26, 2024, 09:54:36 PM
for me the probability is 50.50
maybe before when Biden was around I would have told you that he was 70% Trump and 30% Biden
but with Kamala Harris our friend Donald Trump was unable to run a decent campaign, I think he had prepared everything based on Joe Biden's debacles
and he was taken aback
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: pawel7777 on October 29, 2024, 07:25:40 PM
What do you guys think of the mismatch between the polls, that seem to favour Kamala Harris recently (it can change fast though) and the betting odds, where Donald Trump is a decisive favourite, with odds around x1.50 while odds for Harris are around x2.62.

Who/what is more trustworthy in predicting the result: bettors and bookies, who put their money on the line, or the polls?

I think the advantage of the polls is that they can measure and adjust to the changing situation a bit quicker than the betting odds.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: electronicash on October 29, 2024, 08:01:51 PM
What do you guys think of the mismatch between the polls, that seem to favour Kamala Harris recently (it can change fast though) and the betting odds, where Donald Trump is a decisive favourite, with odds around x1.50 while odds for Harris are around x2.62.

Who/what is more trustworthy in predicting the result: bettors and bookies, who put their money on the line, or the polls?

I think the advantage of the polls is that they can measure and adjust to the changing situation a bit quicker than the betting odds.

don't know which poll you are looking at but most polls don't favor Kamala afaik, they are all Trump. it will likely be a landslide win for Trump.
however this had happened before where Trump was the favored and then he didn't win which the reason for the J6. the media though is promoting Kamala and depicting Trump as the villain which the J6 might happen again if Trump loses.

Trump supporters is much larger withe the help of Elon and clearly Trump is more popular and well liked by the people.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: MUGNIA on October 30, 2024, 02:40:03 PM
What do you guys think of the mismatch between the polls, that seem to favour Kamala Harris recently (it can change fast though) and the betting odds, where Donald Trump is a decisive favourite, with odds around x1.50 while odds for Harris are around x2.62.

Who/what is more trustworthy in predicting the result: bettors and bookies, who put their money on the line, or the polls?

I think the advantage of the polls is that they can measure and adjust to the changing situation a bit quicker than the betting odds.

don't know which poll you are looking at but most polls don't favor Kamala afaik, they are all Trump. it will likely be a landslide win for Trump.
however this had happened before where Trump was the favored and then he didn't win which the reason for the J6. the media though is promoting Kamala and depicting Trump as the villain which the J6 might happen again if Trump loses.

Trump supporters is much larger withe the help of Elon and clearly Trump is more popular and well liked by the people.

but will this be real, because as we know most of the time during the campaign we get support, and when the vote count is out of control, as happened previously when Trump dominated the campaign after the count he lost, but I personally hope that Trump will become president so that crtpyo is safe and its price will increase
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Baofeng on October 30, 2024, 06:13:22 PM
What do you guys think of the mismatch between the polls, that seem to favour Kamala Harris recently (it can change fast though) and the betting odds, where Donald Trump is a decisive favourite, with odds around x1.50 while odds for Harris are around x2.62.

Who/what is more trustworthy in predicting the result: bettors and bookies, who put their money on the line, or the polls?

I think the advantage of the polls is that they can measure and adjust to the changing situation a bit quicker than the betting odds.

don't know which poll you are looking at but most polls don't favor Kamala afaik, they are all Trump. it will likely be a landslide win for Trump.
however this had happened before where Trump was the favored and then he didn't win which the reason for the J6. the media though is promoting Kamala and depicting Trump as the villain which the J6 might happen again if Trump loses.

Trump supporters is much larger withe the help of Elon and clearly Trump is more popular and well liked by the people.

Still close though if we look at reports of some media, although Trump leads but with the slimest of the margin. Although if we look at it, in the last couple of days, there has been a lot of pump in the price, maybe they are anticipating a Trump win?

Maybe? but let's see till Trump gets elected in the office, if he did, I'm sure we might see $80k-$90k at the end of the year or even exceeding that.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: electronicash on October 30, 2024, 07:05:02 PM
What do you guys think of the mismatch between the polls, that seem to favour Kamala Harris recently (it can change fast though) and the betting odds, where Donald Trump is a decisive favourite, with odds around x1.50 while odds for Harris are around x2.62.

Who/what is more trustworthy in predicting the result: bettors and bookies, who put their money on the line, or the polls?

I think the advantage of the polls is that they can measure and adjust to the changing situation a bit quicker than the betting odds.

don't know which poll you are looking at but most polls don't favor Kamala afaik, they are all Trump. it will likely be a landslide win for Trump.
however this had happened before where Trump was the favored and then he didn't win which the reason for the J6. the media though is promoting Kamala and depicting Trump as the villain which the J6 might happen again if Trump loses.

Trump supporters is much larger withe the help of Elon and clearly Trump is more popular and well liked by the people.

Still close though if we look at reports of some media, although Trump leads but with the slimest of the margin. Although if we look at it, in the last couple of days, there has been a lot of pump in the price, maybe they are anticipating a Trump win?

Maybe? but let's see till Trump gets elected in the office, if he did, I'm sure we might see $80k-$90k at the end of the year or even exceeding that.

after Trump appeared in Joe Rogan podcast, the support came pouring for Trump. i think that episode locked the win for Trump but we'll find out what could happen by Nov5.

this speculation may not be related to your bet. there is a possibility also that something will happen base on what the speculations of the mad preppers, they are often correct with their paranoia that something will happen before the election or before the inauguration in Jan 2025 which Biden will declare martial law lol


Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Zed0X on October 30, 2024, 10:09:18 PM
^ Yeah, it seems the podcast did him a slot of favor. On the martial law, hmmm I've also seen some post that there will never be an election. I thought it was just taunt that it will be a landslide victory for one party. I wonder if there will be an adverse effect on BTC if Biden decides to remain in power.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Jating on November 01, 2024, 09:53:39 AM
^ Yeah, it seems the podcast did him a slot of favor. On the martial law, hmmm I've also seen some post that there will never be an election. I thought it was just taunt that it will be a landslide victory for one party. I wonder if there will be an adverse effect on BTC if Biden decides to remain in power.

Technically, Biden or Kamala is going to be very bad for us, as they have a hard line stance against crypto in general. However, we all know that Bitcoin can't be stop, just like during the pandemic wherein we really did not know what's going to happen as the world is on a lockdown. However, we did survived, have a new all time high and the rest is history.

As for Trump being a guest in the podcast, yeah, it seems that it did had a lot of hype. I remember that Trump jokingly said that Joe will not go and bet on Kamala, but he knows Joe loves Khabib, Lol, that joke alone might struck to some on us in a nice way specially if we know that Joe loves MMA and UFC.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: electronicash on November 01, 2024, 07:42:50 PM
^ Yeah, it seems the podcast did him a slot of favor. On the martial law, hmmm I've also seen some post that there will never be an election. I thought it was just taunt that it will be a landslide victory for one party. I wonder if there will be an adverse effect on BTC if Biden decides to remain in power.

Technically, Biden or Kamala is going to be very bad for us, as they have a hard line stance against crypto in general. However, we all know that Bitcoin can't be stop, just like during the pandemic wherein we really did not know what's going to happen as the world is on a lockdown. However, we did survived, have a new all time high and the rest is history.

As for Trump being a guest in the podcast, yeah, it seems that it did had a lot of hype. I remember that Trump jokingly said that Joe will not go and bet on Kamala, but he knows Joe loves Khabib, Lol, that joke alone might struck to some on us in a nice way specially if we know that Joe loves MMA and UFC.

this could be because we are still uncertain whether Trump will really do what he promised to do for BTC. the only way we can find out is if he wins. but at least Trump is offering hope for crypto unlike Kamala who says nothing about it.

Trump is also an MMA fan. in the start of campaign period, he used to attend a UFC events too which Dana is giving him and grand entrance and fans are also cheering. the last time i think it was the fight of Covington wearing Trump hat.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: knowngunman on November 01, 2024, 08:38:03 PM
for me the probability is 50.50
maybe before when Biden was around I would have told you that he was 70% Trump and 30% Biden
but with Kamala Harris our friend Donald Trump was unable to run a decent campaign, I think he had prepared everything based on Joe Biden's debacles
and he was taken aback

Yeah they played a kind of Maradona game with Trump.

But I still don't think the probability is 50:50. Perhaps 60 against 50 in favor of Donald Trump. I'm not from USA but from what I am seeing online, Trump stand a better chance than Kamala but you know election is not by media hype and of course the power of incumbency will play it role for Kamala.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Rubel007 on November 02, 2024, 09:11:09 AM
for me the probability is 50.50
maybe before when Biden was around I would have told you that he was 70% Trump and 30% Biden
but with Kamala Harris our friend Donald Trump was unable to run a decent campaign, I think he had prepared everything based on Joe Biden's debacles
and he was taken aback

Yeah they played a kind of Maradona game with Trump.

But I still don't think the probability is 50:50. Perhaps 60 against 50 in favor of Donald Trump. I'm not from USA but from what I am seeing online, Trump stand a better chance than Kamala but you know election is not by media hype and of course the power of incumbency will play it role for Kamala.
Even just a month before the election, Kamala Harris's chances were increasing but with time it has started to decrease. At this point, Trump seems to be slightly ahead. But the important thing is that the voters can change their mind at any time that's why we can't trust anything till the election. There is no way to be sure about either depending on the media. There can always be some exaggeration in the media which will be hard to match with reality.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Jating on November 02, 2024, 01:42:45 PM
for me the probability is 50.50
maybe before when Biden was around I would have told you that he was 70% Trump and 30% Biden
but with Kamala Harris our friend Donald Trump was unable to run a decent campaign, I think he had prepared everything based on Joe Biden's debacles
and he was taken aback

Yeah they played a kind of Maradona game with Trump.

But I still don't think the probability is 50:50. Perhaps 60 against 50 in favor of Donald Trump. I'm not from USA but from what I am seeing online, Trump stand a better chance than Kamala but you know election is not by media hype and of course the power of incumbency will play it role for Kamala.
Even just a month before the election, Kamala Harris's chances were increasing but with time it has started to decrease. At this point, Trump seems to be slightly ahead. But the important thing is that the voters can change their mind at any time that's why we can't trust anything till the election. There is no way to be sure about either depending on the media. There can always be some exaggeration in the media which will be hard to match with reality.

For me still going to be close, and so we really don't know who is going to win in the end. Yeah, it was Trump leading in the beginning against Biden, and when Kamala takes over, she took the lead from Trump. But as the election gets closer, Trump is cutting that lead and now he is back on the driver side.

However, the data still points that Trump just had a slim lead. So still up to the US voters who will they vote, will they like to make a history with Kamala as the first female US President? Or re-elected Trump?
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: electronicash on November 05, 2024, 08:07:00 PM
^ Yeah, it seems the podcast did him a slot of favor. On the martial law, hmmm I've also seen some post that there will never be an election. I thought it was just taunt that it will be a landslide victory for one party. I wonder if there will be an adverse effect on BTC if Biden decides to remain in power.

i read some reports they are deploying national guards to the swing states so yep its almost about to happen, depends on who would win i think. or it could happen in the inauguration.
none of the two Kamala and Trump will concede in this race even if its an obvious result. there will be protest just like what is going on in Venezuela when even when Maduro wins, the other party will just keep protesting spreading news and fermenting tensions.

back in the days, we only see this tensions and election crime happens in 3rd world countries but now we're seeing it big countries.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Zed0X on November 05, 2024, 10:08:33 PM
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back in the days, we only see this tensions and election crime happens in 3rd world countries but now we're seeing it big countries.
I haven't followed enough elections in developed countries to agree or disagree on that but I saw how nasty it was in the last two POTUS elections.

Anyway, I've seen some predictions on Poly and it seems bettors are going for a Trump win at around 67% probability.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: pawel7777 on November 05, 2024, 11:57:08 PM
We're entering the final hours of voting.
The bets are still open and Trump is still a favourite with odds of around x1.58, odds for Kamala being x2.50
Not sure if this is accurate but Elon Musk has been reporting earlier that men are voting in record numbers, which, if true, should be a good sign for Trump. I can't find that info to be confirmed anywhere else though.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Zed0X on November 06, 2024, 07:35:05 AM
I'm already reading some bettors cashing out on Trump ;D Maybe it's too early and they could have won more if they wait until the end because it seems he's going to win it all.

Anyway, I think both camps are just waiting for the result of Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. If it goes to Trump (which he's leading by the way), it's all over.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: babo on November 06, 2024, 08:48:36 AM
I celebrate not Donald Trump's victory but the fact that I got it right :)
I'm not rooting for him, for me between him and Harris there's just a different shitty fragrance difference.. but shit remains

clearly there are advantages, bitcoin pump, Ross freed, softening of wars... many things but also a lot of bullshit on his part

Meanwhile, thanks to Trump I take home $50

(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/11/06/bFWl2.png)
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Zed0X on November 06, 2024, 10:09:34 AM
I celebrate not Donald Trump's victory but the fact that I got it right :)
I'm not rooting for him, for me between him and Harris there's just a different shitty fragrance difference.. but shit remains

clearly there are advantages, bitcoin pump, Ross freed, softening of wars... many things but also a lot of bullshit on his part

Meanwhile, thanks to Trump I take home $50

(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/11/06/bFWl2.png)
There at least 15 of us here in the forum that got it right (based on the poll) but I don't know who else made money on the election result. Well done on your trade.

He's not perfect for sure but his policy on wars and borders will probably carry him all throughout his second term. They will probably save billions if they stopped funding wars in Ukraine.

Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: babo on November 06, 2024, 05:22:52 PM
yeah
Unfortunately I don't trust polls, I see what people really think, the people who vote
the Dems thought they could work magic by manipulating public opinion
but their performance was so bad that no amount of manipulation could make things right for them 
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: electronicash on November 06, 2024, 06:13:42 PM
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back in the days, we only see this tensions and election crime happens in 3rd world countries but now we're seeing it big countries.
I haven't followed enough elections in developed countries to agree or disagree on that but I saw how nasty it was in the last two POTUS elections.

Anyway, I've seen some predictions on Poly and it seems bettors are going for a Trump win at around 67% probability.

its because Dems runs the country and they don't like Trump. Trump riddled with all the lawsuits they place to make his character look so bad to the public, he beat them all.

in the other forum, they were talking about someone betting $18M for Trump before the election result. seem like  perfect way to earn a lot while also have an insider info. or its just too obvious that Trump will dominate base on just the social media hype?




Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: Zed0X on November 07, 2024, 07:08:56 AM
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in the other forum, they were talking about someone betting $18M for Trump before the election result. seem like  perfect way to earn a lot while also have an insider info. or its just too obvious that Trump will dominate base on just the social media hype?
Maybe the person had more common sense than the rest ;D I've been watching some interviews post election and one of the panelist said that people with common sense prefers the policies that Trumps supports. They knew that most of the working class of America only cares about the opportunity they get to improve their personal lives. The increasing prices coupled with the decrease in the labor market as caused by the influx of illegal immigrants definitely made them connect with Trump more.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: babo on November 07, 2024, 11:29:43 AM

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I pass this message on from an old friend
unfortunately he lost his job and needs to work, so if you have any vacancies
he is willing to do everything even go to MacDonald's, he is willing and also touchy if you make fun of him for his height :D ahahaha
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: electronicash on November 07, 2024, 06:54:58 PM
~

in the other forum, they were talking about someone betting $18M for Trump before the election result. seem like  perfect way to earn a lot while also have an insider info. or its just too obvious that Trump will dominate base on just the social media hype?
Maybe the person had more common sense than the rest ;D I've been watching some interviews post election and one of the panelist said that people with common sense prefers the policies that Trumps supports. They knew that most of the working class of America only cares about the opportunity they get to improve their personal lives. The increasing prices coupled with the decrease in the labor market as caused by the influx of illegal immigrants definitely made them connect with Trump more.

maybe so. and after all if anyone just take a few steps away to see the whole picture, it makes sense that Trump has better ideas than Kamala who are still sticking her neck for Biden despite dems throwing her under the bus. all the nightmares experienced by the US people happens n Joe's term.

maybe Trump again will make it better since he seem to make it better in his 2016 term. if he can stop the wars i think people will love him more and maybe change the minds of the liberals about him.
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: babo on November 08, 2024, 12:11:28 PM

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I pass this message on from an old friend
unfortunately he lost his job and needs to work, so if you have any vacancies
he is willing to do everything even go to MacDonald's, he is willing and also touchy if you make fun of him for his height :D ahahaha


no one commented on my funny post, you are really boring haha ​​just kidding



~~~~~
maybe Trump again will make it better since he seem to make it better in his 2016 term. if he can stop the wars i think people will love him more and maybe change the minds of the liberals about him.

it is rumored that his son Barron was Donald's crypto advisor, therefore a young man accustomed to technology and capable of explaining firsthand what is happening to the technological world, without counting Musk
Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: electronicash on November 08, 2024, 08:50:39 PM

(http://blackout.altervista.org/i/uploads/tb.94fced392245fc1b0d2b23b461c3225d-20241107.jpg)
 (http://blackout.altervista.org/i/uploads/94fced392245fc1b0d2b23b461c3225d-20241107.jpg)



I pass this message on from an old friend
unfortunately he lost his job and needs to work, so if you have any vacancies
he is willing to do everything even go to MacDonald's, he is willing and also touchy if you make fun of him for his height :D ahahaha


no one commented on my funny post, you are really boring haha ​​just kidding



~~~~~
maybe Trump again will make it better since he seem to make it better in his 2016 term. if he can stop the wars i think people will love him more and maybe change the minds of the liberals about him.

it is rumored that his son Barron was Donald's crypto advisor, therefore a young man accustomed to technology and capable of explaining firsthand what is happening to the technological world, without counting Musk

he can't just discount Musk. without his twitter (x), Trump will have hard time and the voice of his supporters wouldn't be heard. and Musk also is a crypto supporter, best to stick with people who have common goal and most of all common enemy.

but sure Barron Trump being young and most probably understand crypto more than Donald himself would be a better crypto advicer that Donald can trust. his son himself will never betray him. 

Title: Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
Post by: babo on November 10, 2024, 03:15:16 PM
he can't just discount Musk. without his twitter (x), Trump will have hard time and the voice of his supporters wouldn't be heard. and Musk also is a crypto supporter, best to stick with people who have common goal and most of all common enemy.

but sure Barron Trump being young and most probably understand crypto more than Donald himself would be a better crypto advicer that Donald can trust. his son himself will never betray him.

congratulations, you are really very intelligent and sharp, I'm not being sarcastic
that's right, people with common interests must go together arm in arm so that their goals can have so many common efforts that they can surely find the achievement of the goal in the end
In any case, this is also true about Barron.

I agree with your analysis