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Title: Funny story from New York
Post by: NikeFit_7777 on July 23, 2024, 12:43:43 PM
$10,000 for the return of keys in New York City. Anyone who finds a keychain near Central Park in New York City is being promised $10,000. It's all about the Ledger wallet hanging on it.


P.S. Be as vigilant as possible + write down your seed phrases. Otherwise, you can lose all your blood money. Be careful and do not forget the basic rules. Now you know how you don't need to store cold wallets.

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Title: Re: Funny story from New York
Post by: PX-Z on July 23, 2024, 02:51:48 PM
Sheesh.. Why someone used that hardware wallet as daily wallet, worst is to put it on as a key chain or something. Worst thing to happen is if it falls to sewage or get by a homeless who doesn't have a single idea what it is, thinking its just a flash drive or just a key.
Well, if he got lucky someone found it and bring it back to the owner, since guessing hardware wallet pins will lock the device for several wrong attempts.
Title: Re: Funny story from New York
Post by: Husires on July 23, 2024, 03:15:48 PM
Walking around with a keychain hardware wallet in a public place is a problem.
If he specializes in hardware devices or sends it to an expert, he may be able to access the private key, so passphrase may help you avoid stealing your money.
Title: Re: Funny story from New York
Post by: dkbit98 on July 23, 2024, 10:02:42 PM
There is a good chance that ledger wallet has more coins than the whole Hyundai car with all the keys, since owner was offering $10k reward to someone who found this ''keys''.
This is nice example why it's not a good idea to carry hardware wallets as keychains everywhere with you, especially if they have a lot of coins there.
If I was the owner I would import seed words to different device and move coins asap, just in case.
Title: Re: Funny story from New York
Post by: bee on July 24, 2024, 08:15:05 AM
Be careful and do not forget the basic rules. Now you know how you don't need to store cold wallets.

If you don't even know the basic rules of securing your wallet, you are not good with crypto.

since owner was offering $10k reward to someone who found this ''keys''.
And it was announced publicly so it caught everyone's attention, this is not a fair amount of reward for just a keychain. If that happened in my country, the owner would be contacted by many random people.
Title: Re: Funny story from New York
Post by: Stompix on July 24, 2024, 09:19:50 AM
If this is true and is not a hoax, I do hope in his last moment of thinking this over the owner decided to at least use a burner phone for this, because if that's this real number every scammer seeing that picture will think of a sim swap attack!
Also, the reward will make sure everyone who finds that key will ask himself why the hell are they worth that much, and just a Google search will give them their answer, so he might end up paying double!
Title: Re: Funny story from New York
Post by: Crwth on July 24, 2024, 09:33:52 AM
I don’t know why he is trying to do that when he could easily recover it from his seed phrases and probably buy another ledger. I think he didn’t follow the instructions in the box where you could write your seed phrases already on The paper provided in the box.

Maybe he also looking for the car keys or something, but I don’t know why he would also attach his ledger there
Title: Re: Funny story from New York
Post by: target on July 24, 2024, 09:50:03 AM
The owner is willing to pay $10k,  there must be more coins inside it.
Lots of people that time in July 4th. Maybe advertising in facebook will help him get it back but if that ledger was thrown in the garbage can already as swept by the cleaner, its lost already.

There are two people who took the number, I hope they are not scam who would call him to ask for that 10k.
Title: Re: Funny story from New York
Post by: Husires on July 24, 2024, 03:00:44 PM
I don’t know why he is trying to do that when he could easily recover it from his seed phrases and probably buy another ledger. I think he didn’t follow the instructions in the box where you could write your seed phrases already on The paper provided in the box.
If someone finds it, it will be easy to blackmail him if he does not have a copy of the wallet seed, and from the advertisement, this seems to be true.
They will demand a larger amount, otherwise they will destroy the wallet or write the PIN incorrectly several times, and then he will have no choice but to pay more. This $10,000 ad will makes the situation worse.
Title: Re: Funny story from New York
Post by: Gurujebs on July 24, 2024, 03:53:40 PM
$10,000 for the return of keys in New York City. Anyone who finds a keychain near Central Park in New York City is being promised $10,000. It's all about the Ledger wallet hanging on it.


P.S. Be as vigilant as possible + write down your seed phrases. Otherwise, you can lose all your blood money. Be careful and do not forget the basic rules. Now you know how you don't need to store cold wallets.

So sad to see someone lose his investment because of carelessness. If this is not a deliberate action, why would sometime have an investment worth morr than $10k and will risk it all by not properly doing a backup. I'm not happy about this but it's going to be a lesson for others that are having large amount of money in their wallet and yet back up of there seed phrase are not done.


On a second note, my mind is telling me that this could also mean awareness for people that has money in their wallet but refused to do proper backup of their seed phrase. If this is true, then the message was deliver successfully.
Title: Re: Funny story from New York
Post by: bitmover on July 24, 2024, 03:54:05 PM
If this is true and is not a hoax, I do hope in his last moment of thinking this over the owner decided to at least use a burner phone for this, because if that's this real number every scammer seeing that picture will think of a sim swap attack!
Also, the reward will make sure everyone who finds that key will ask himself why the hell are they worth that much, and just a Google search will give them their answer, so he might end up paying double!

I think he just hopes someone honest finds it.

I would be very happy to just take 10k USD without scamming anyone... Probably most people would think the same
Title: Re: Funny story from New York
Post by: MrSpasybo on July 24, 2024, 08:00:06 PM
The owner is willing to pay $10k,  there must be more coins inside it.
Lots of people that time in July 4th. Maybe advertising in facebook will help him get it back but if that ledger was thrown in the garbage can already as swept by the cleaner, its lost already.

There are two people who took the number, I hope they are not scam who would call him to ask for that 10k.
I think this is just a joke for crypto investors. Perhaps someone really wants to find the keys to their car and apartment, and the Ledger wallet just happened to be on the keychain.

For a crypto investor, to save the crypto assets in the account, they can buy another Ledger wallet and log in again by their private key. This also helps us to further understand the value of the private key and the security of crypto when the holder is still holding and protecting the private key well!
Title: Re: Funny story from New York
Post by: dkbit98 on July 24, 2024, 09:20:48 PM
I don’t know why he is trying to do that when he could easily recover it from his seed phrases and probably buy another ledger. I think he didn’t follow the instructions in the box where you could write your seed phrases already on The paper provided in the box.
Car keys are also important and it's not that easy and free to create new keys and change locks on your car.
There is also a small chance he doesn't have any backup for seed words or he lost it, but I hope that is not the real case  :P

If someone finds it, it will be easy to blackmail him if he does not have a copy of the wallet seed, and from the advertisement, this seems to be true.
They can also end up in jail for doing this, since everyone knows about this case including local police.

Title: Re: Funny story from New York
Post by: Crwth on July 25, 2024, 01:35:06 PM
~snipo
Car keys are also important and it's not that easy and free to create new keys and change locks on your car.
There is also a small chance he doesn't have any backup for seed words or he lost it, but I hope that is not the real case  :P
It is very true that car keys are really important. With a Hyundai car, I think it's really expensive unless it's the top end right? I just hope that $10,000 would give it back to the owner and hopefully be worth it for him. 
Title: Re: Funny story from New York
Post by: Stompix on July 25, 2024, 02:42:45 PM
It is very true that car keys are really important. With a Hyundai car, I think it's really expensive unless it's the top end right? I just hope that $10,000 would give it back to the owner and hopefully be worth it for him.

Even the most expensive brand in an official dealership won't charge you more than $500 for a key, you can get brand new Tucson for 27k.
As for the door locks, I wouldn't want those back either, the guys who come with them might have already made a double and he might be trailing me to see where I live.

It's either a joke or the guy desperately wants his ledger back!




Title: Re: Funny story from New York
Post by: dkbit98 on July 25, 2024, 11:51:13 PM
It is very true that car keys are really important. With a Hyundai car, I think it's really expensive unless it's the top end right? I just hope that $10,000 would give it back to the owner and hopefully be worth it for him. 
I don't know the exact price, and it is easier to make duplicate if you already have reserve coded key at home, but guy who found your keys can always open and steal your car.
That means you would need to change all locks and get a new code, that is not cheap at all.
I have seen strange things before when people had ledger around their neck, so I am not that surprised is someone really lost their keys.
Curious people can always call a number from the image if they think it's a joke ;)
Title: Re: Funny story from New York
Post by: God Of Thunder on July 29, 2024, 02:44:04 PM
If I was the owner I would import seed words to different device and move coins asap, just in case.

I would do the same. But, I am wondering isn't it a stupid act? The person offering 10K means his wallet is worth more than that. So, why someone won't have his backup seed phrase of such wallet where he has stored his cryptocurrency? Sometimes people learn from their stupid mistakes. But what if they have to pay the price of their stupid mistake and what if that is expensive like this one? I got a hardware wallet a couple of months ago from one of my friend and I wrote backups in two papers and stored it in two different place. Still, I haven't moved a single penny to that wallet because I am afraid of losing that wallet. LOL
Title: Re: Funny story from New York
Post by: dkbit98 on July 30, 2024, 12:07:28 AM
I would do the same. But, I am wondering isn't it a stupid act?
Stupid thing would be to do nothing, and hope for the best.
I saw people willing to pay crazy amounts for personal stuff, animals, etc and this is no exception.
There is no other reason why anyone would write real phone number on that paper.
Title: Re: Funny story from New York
Post by: God Of Thunder on July 30, 2024, 08:14:51 AM
Stupid thing would be to do nothing, and hope for the best.
I saw people willing to pay crazy amounts for personal stuff, animals, etc and this is no exception.
There is no other reason why anyone would write real phone number on that paper.

By saying, "isn't it a stupid act?" I referred to the guy who was carrying his hardware wallet with his car key without having the backup seed phrases (Sorry for making you confused, that is because of the language barrier). How careless people could be with their money. Or probably he thought it will be better to carry his hardware wallet with him so he don't lose it. But he did not thought about the other side. Sometimes we carry important things with us all the time because we need them everyday (ID's, Credit cards for example), but I can't imagine someone use their Hardware wallet daily.

BTW, You are giving me Ratmov vibe because of the Avatar you wearing :D
Title: Re: Funny story from New York
Post by: dkbit98 on July 30, 2024, 11:53:54 PM
By saying, "isn't it a stupid act?" I referred to the guy who was carrying his hardware wallet with his car key without having the backup seed phrases (Sorry for making you confused, that is because of the language barrier). How careless people could be with their money. Or probably he thought it will be better to carry his hardware wallet with him so he don't lose it. But he did not thought about the other side. Sometimes we carry important things with us all the time because we need them everyday (ID's, Credit cards for example), but I can't imagine someone use their Hardware wallet daily.
I understand what you are saying but it was actually stupid from ledger to create hardware wallet that could be used on keychain, they even added additional accessories for that in package.
Owner was reckless for sure for doing this and I would never suggest anyone to carry hardware wallet all the time with keys and other items.
Only if someone has small amount of coins on hardware wallet, or if they needed to make payment or trade coins, than I would understand if they carry device with them.
Title: Re: Funny story from New York
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on August 04, 2024, 06:36:35 AM
      -     Putting the hardware wallet on the keychain that is your car key is actually a wrong decision made by the holders. So even if we say that you often use it or open it, it is still not right to put it on your car's keychain.

I just hope that the one who gets it will be returned to the real owner, but if the person who gets it also has cryptocurrency, there will be a 50/50 chance of being able to open it, especially if a hacker is the one who gets it.