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Title: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: Crypto Library on July 25, 2024, 10:57:20 PM
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Are you guys know about the current unrest with the Quota Protest in Bangladesh.
This protest became massive only because of the internet and social media. And for this, our Dictators shut down the Internet Connection of the entire country for 5 days to turn the situation towards them. To say that these five days our Bangladeshi people were completely isolated from the Internet or the world. You can visit this thread to know more details - Attacks on quota movement students (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5503130.msg64330760#msg64330760)

Now I come to the real point, most of us who are here have investment in cryptocurrency or bitcoin or selling services which is very related to bitcoin.

What will you do with their transactions/trades in this situation? Can a Satelite Internet connection can be only the way ?



Are bitcoiner really have the decentralized system, which can't be controlled? Because at the end of the day, I'm seeing that we are hostage to the government. It appears that all control is in the hands of the government i.e. to the ruler party.

Now I want to know if there is ever such a situation in your country then what should be the pre-preparation?


Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: Charles-Tim on July 25, 2024, 11:07:57 PM
What will you do with their transactions/trades in this situation? Can a Satelite Internet connection can be only the way ?
Like I have explained on the other forum, yes because the government have control over the underwater internet cables. Those internet providers using underwater internet cables are regulated by the government, and they can be controlled. Only satelite internet connection would be the option to go for.
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: Crypto Library on July 25, 2024, 11:38:56 PM
Like I have explained on the other forum, yes because the government have control over the underwater internet cables. Those internet providers using underwater internet cables are regulated by the government, and they can be controlled. Only satelite internet connection would be the option to go for.
That's why I mentioned satellite internet as an alternative. I actually doubted whether the satellite internet connection would work at all. But besides, I myself do not know which company provides satellite internet in Bangladesh and what is their price. I heard about Starlink and I have no idea about its pricing.
However, as a 3rd world country and based on the income of most people, most of them do not have the affordability to implement this satellite.
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: Kemarit on July 26, 2024, 03:59:12 AM
Like I have explained on the other forum, yes because the government have control over the underwater internet cables. Those internet providers using underwater internet cables are regulated by the government, and they can be controlled. Only satelite internet connection would be the option to go for.
That's why I mentioned satellite internet as an alternative. I actually doubted whether the satellite internet connection would work at all. But besides, I myself do not know which company provides satellite internet in Bangladesh and what is their price. I heard about Starlink and I have no idea about its pricing.
However, as a 3rd world country and based on the income of most people, most of them do not have the affordability to implement this satellite.

Unfortunately, it's only the satellite as our options if ever the internet is cut, just like what happen in Bangladesh. And you are correct, we can't do anything specially in a 3rd world country wherein most of us live.

So likely scenario is that we will have to wait what the government will do in order to restore internet. And so we will be trapped, so perhaps if we needed money then the best option is to put some in bank or have money on hand in case of this kind of disaster or crisis.
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: Charles-Tim on July 26, 2024, 06:23:02 AM
That's why I mentioned satellite internet as an alternative. I actually doubted whether the satellite internet connection would work at all. But besides, I myself do not know which company provides satellite internet in Bangladesh and what is their price. I heard about Starlink and I have no idea about its pricing.
However, as a 3rd world country and based on the income of most people, most of them do not have the affordability to implement this satellite.
According to what I found out online, Starlink subscription in Bangladesh is expensive with a monthly subscription of around $120. This may be wrong but that was what I saw online. The kit is around $599 dollars.

https://www.thedailystar.net/business/news/musks-starlink-make-entry-bangladesh-3487811
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: famososMuertos on July 26, 2024, 07:51:56 AM
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I'll be specific, since the topic is somewhat simple, but there may be someone in your area who has Starlink, since, in many places in the world, fortunately, many disconnected places already have that access through this route.

Investigate or ask, but they are there and if they are not, you can start something like a niche in your region, although the laws and the situation in your country, it can definitely be considered a crime, be careful, this is not advice, it is just information.

Starlink, like the satellite television service, can be used... on their page there is all the information you need.

It is a service that can be obtained jointly to reduce costs. The buy in the antenna is the first major investment, then you only pay monthly, and the service can even be paid for month by month, there are no annual contracts.

I hope everything works out, stay safe, I read something on my local board thanks to another user, but around here (my region) that news is not getting the coverage it deserves.
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: bitterguy28 on July 26, 2024, 09:02:55 AM
And for this, our Dictators shut down the Internet Connection of the entire country for 5 days to turn the situation towards them.
it is possible for any government to do this but not all countries are under a dictatorship some countries are more likely to experience this than the others of course this doesn't mean that we should not prepare for it
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What will you do with their transactions/trades in this situation? Can a Satelite Internet connection can be only the way ?
yes satellite internet can be used but in times of total cutoff i don't think i will be making a lot of transactions the best way i can think of is use a cold wallet to hold my funds securely this way i know they are safe and i do not need to worry about not being able to check my funds
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Are bitcoiner really have the decentralized system, which can't be controlled? Because at the end of the day, I'm seeing that we are hostage to the government. It appears that all control is in the hands of the government i.e. to the ruler party.
i believe even though the government can pretty much do anything to their citizens, we are still offered some sense of control after all our private keys is ours and ours alone and without it the government cant access our funds
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: EluguHcman on July 26, 2024, 10:54:55 AM
The fact that the government taking measures to shutdown the internet does not necessarily mean that they have control over Bitcoin.
Such exhibition is as the government's keep related internet technologies and bridging humans communication and not mean they have controls over Bitcoin.

Hence we should know that the shutdown of the internet will also affect them the authorities so everyone suffers it and at the restoration of the internet, our Bitcoins will still be intact for us untouched as decentralized financial technology it is.
We can say that what happened in that few 5days in Bangladesh is a reflection that even in crisis your assets or values stored in the Bitcoin will safe for you rather there would be inconveniences to process transactions. But what should be most mattered is the safety of your funds which Bitcoin is always a hedge towards such crisis potential to cripple values or the economy.
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: 0t3p0t on July 26, 2024, 02:18:42 PM
Not unless you are using satelite phones or internet though in total internet shutdown maybe Blockstream has a solution to that if I am not mistaken. But this issue should be cleared and will be taken consideration by devs one day that full access to Bitcoin will still be possible even without the use of internet.

Here in my country I have experienced this situation before when a super typhoon hit our place we lost power supply and internet for maybe 6-7 months and that leads me the inability to access my Bitcoin funds.
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: Husires on July 26, 2024, 02:49:59 PM
Satellite internet connection has become cheaper and more reliable. Starlink is preparing to launch a mini version at a price of less than $ 500. If investment in this sector continues, you may find an access point in any city in the world connected to a satellite internet connection before 2040. Internet outages via submarine cables will not be a problem in the future.
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: robelneo on July 26, 2024, 05:11:36 PM
Now I want to know if there is ever such a situation in your country then what should be the pre-preparation?

That's a remote possibility that could happen to our country, because the governemnt is also relying too much for their operations and the business sectors will suffer drastically in case this happen, but yes we have to think this possibility if we have a huge amount of investment in Cryptocurrency.

I can think of two options: using satellite internet, moving to another country, and just taking your private keys, seedphrases, or hardware wallets with you.
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: Hamza2424 on July 26, 2024, 06:00:17 PM
Crypto Library, TBH I'm feeling so sad, that such a crisis is ongoing in your country and, on top of that this crisis is just because of a democratic protest, which is the right of everyone Students are going through a hard time, May Allah Bless you guys and give you patience and Strength. No internet is really a big problem, but what can we do against such dictators except the protests?

For the general point of view.
TBH, I don't think no internet situation is gonna ever happen because it is not the age of land-line internet, now we own the latest satellite communication, Until or unless there's WW3, I dont think there will be 100% no internet on this planet.
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: dkbit98 on July 26, 2024, 06:07:41 PM
I don't think that satellite internet would solve anything, at least for most of the people, and it's not available everywhere.
Interesting that regions that have no-flight zone are also facing the issue of satellite internet not working, so think about that, no planes in sky means no internet.
There is a way to make bitcoin transactions without internet, but again it's complicated for most people, and I am not even sure that cards and bank payments can work without internet.
Cash is the king.
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: Crypto Library on July 26, 2024, 08:27:21 PM
Crypto Library, TBH I'm feeling so sad, that such a crisis is ongoing in your country and, on top of that this crisis is just because of a democratic protest, which is the right of everyone Students are going through a hard time, May Allah Bless you guys and give you patience and Strength. No internet is really a big problem, but what can we do against such dictators except the protests?

For the general point of view.
TBH, I don't think no internet situation is gonna ever happen because it is not the age of land-line internet, now we own the latest satellite communication, Until or unless there's WW3, I dont think there will be 100% no internet on this planet.
Our situation is really on a disaster. So far the strong movement has been going on and now it is going on to arrest those who are with the movement. Already our dictator's forces are taking away our students from their homes and hostels, many of them are nowhere to be found. And besides, we currently have to use social media using VPN. And today I have to use VPN to access bitcointalk and Altcointalk forums. I myself am afraid when the police come to my house. So strict surveillance is being made that those who have posted related to this movement on social media are also being arrested. Already 2500 students have been arrested for protesting.

I don't think that satellite internet would solve anything, at least for most of the people, and it's not available everywhere.
Interesting that regions that have no-flight zone are also facing the issue of satellite internet not working, so think about that, no planes in sky means no internet.
There is a way to make bitcoin transactions without internet, but again it's complicated for most people, and I am not even sure that cards and bank payments can work without internet.
Cash is the king.
To be honest. It is the hard truth I'm realizing it the Cash is the king :") . You are right most of the bank services are also off in these five days luckily I have the enough cash to lead these five days  :)
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: electronicash on July 26, 2024, 08:58:58 PM

you just be lucky that the internet blackout just lasted for 5 days.  i heard of this protests where death toll goes up to 200 deaths already?
for a business that relies solely to the internet, it will really be a pain in the ass if the internet is just shutdown for 5 days. business owners will likely join the protest if it goes beyond 5 days. financial transactions these days are often just done through the internet.  its like the government is cutting the line.

if you are a prepper and a Bitcoiner, i guess you are still out of option but to wait till there is an internet connection.
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: Agbe on July 26, 2024, 09:31:01 PM
Like I have explained on the other forum, yes because the government have control over the underwater internet cables. Those internet providers using underwater internet cables are regulated by the government, and they can be controlled. Only satelite internet connection would be the option to go for.
That's why I mentioned satellite internet as an alternative. I actually doubted whether the satellite internet connection would work at all. But besides, I myself do not know which company provides satellite internet in Bangladesh and what is their price. I heard about Starlink and I have no idea about its pricing.
However, as a 3rd world country and based on the income of most people, most of them do not have the affordability to implement this satellite.
Most country have not expertise to that level and they are still using the analog method of Internet connection. And the best way is the digital Internet connection which should be direct satellite Internet connection. And as it was said in the other forum like Charles -Tim said, the breaking down of internet will affect a lot of business plus the banking system because everyone and companies now is using cashless transfer and Internet is needed 24/27 hours.
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: ZAINmalik75 on July 26, 2024, 10:31:18 PM
Are bitcoiner really have the decentralized system, which can't be controlled? Because at the end of the day, I'm seeing that we are hostage to the government. It appears that all control is in the hands of the government i.e. to the ruler party.

Now I want to know if there is ever such a situation in your country then what should be the pre-preparation?
We also faced the same situation and the Internet was shut down for more than 5 days. You must have heard of this event from my local community members already or from some other source. There was no data connection but we were able to use PTCL connections but only in homes and outside we were not able to use the internet which was difficult. People who had no WiFi connections faced difficulties but they moved into places where they could use WiFi.

I faced this situation that's why I know how it feels in such a situation, they shut down the internet due to political matters which was not a good move. Why do these centralized governments do such things, moves of these types help us realize why decentralization of everything is necessary. If everything is centralized we won't be given freedom of speech.
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: sampoerna on July 26, 2024, 11:36:15 PM

What will you do with their transactions/trades in this situation? Can a Satelite Internet connection can be only the way ?

Ah, I don't know about this, whether my country can support this or not. If the internet is really down for all providers for a few days, it will definitely really disrupt daily activities. Especially for crypto, maybe after the announcement, we can prepare it in advance for transfers, deposits, or withdrawals while the internet is down. However, for other activities that require the internet, this will be very difficult and really hamper various performances in all fields.

because currently there are many things that are done using the internet and it is no longer separated. So, what do you think if the internet goes down, what will happen? I'm sure it will be chaotic.

Are bitcoiner really have the decentralized system, which can't be controlled? Because at the end of the day, I'm seeing that we are hostage to the government. It appears that all control is in the hands of the government i.e. to the ruler party.

Now I want to know if there is ever such a situation in your country then what should be the pre-preparation?
We also faced the same situation and the Internet was shut down for more than 5 days. You must have heard of this event from my local community members already or from some other source. There was no data connection but we were able to use PTCL connections but only in homes and outside we were not able to use the internet which was difficult. People who had no WiFi connections faced difficulties but they moved into places where they could use WiFi.
Seriously? Is your country that strict at this time? I am concerned about the situation, hopefully there will be a solution that benefits all parties soon. Because basically, the need for internet is not only for Bitcoin users. If the government does it to suppress the number of people involved in Bitcoin and crypto, then that is not the right step, because after all, isn't the internet already one of the main parts for society for their daily activities? But what do you mean, is the internet connection that is cut off only from the government or all providers in the country? If so, won't the providers also suffer great losses if the internet has to go down for a few days?
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: Zed0X on July 26, 2024, 11:41:00 PM
~ I am not even sure that cards and bank payments can work without internet.
Yeah, if there will be anyone who would be affected the most, it's the people who rely on these infrastructures like big businesses. A bitcoiner will probably just have to wait a bit since Governments cannot really function properly without internet and they will be forced to fix that first.
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: Pastaral on July 27, 2024, 03:36:18 AM
Cryptocurrency users are often aware of the risks associated with their investments, including the possibility of losing internet access.But this preparation may not be successful. Because if we come to a situation where the internet is not available then it will affect crypto users to face big challenges.If there is no internet connection,it will affect the trading because those who hold this bitcoin for a long time cannot take any decision without internet connection.Internet is very important for all of us through this internet we work online.
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: TomPluz on July 27, 2024, 03:48:05 AM
Now I come to the real point, most of us who are here have investment in cryptocurrency or bitcoin or selling services which is very related to bitcoin.

What will you do with their transactions/trades in this situation? Can a Satelite Internet connection can be only the way ?

Are bitcoiner really have the decentralized system, which can't be controlled? Because at the end of the day, I'm seeing that we are hostage to the government. It appears that all control is in the hands of the government i.e. to the ruler party.

Now I want to know if there is ever such a situation in your country then what should be the pre-preparation?

As far as I know there is really no good alternative that we can use if the usual internet infrastructure that we have will one day fail or be controlled by the government as we know that internet is really centralized controlled by many corporations and can easily be influenced by those in power. The only alternative solution is satellite internet but this is very much expensive and also centralized. Starlink is owned by Elon Musk and certainly this can still be of big help but not feasible in many areas of the world especially on the consumer level. So at the end, we can be groping in darkness once there will be a situation like this...but then again when something can develop that can cut off the internet it can mean that turmoil must be at hand and that things are not really normal. There is nothing we can do but hope and wait when things can get back to its feet. Let's hope that one day there can be a real alternative solution just in case we will get into this problem so we can still be using Bitcoin and cryptocurrency as usual. The truth is that no internet, no Bitcoin.







Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: Trongduy on July 27, 2024, 04:29:33 AM
The government's attempts to shut down the internet do not necessarily mean they have control over Bitcoin. Such actions affect internet technologies and human communication but do not imply control over Bitcoin itself.

It's important to understand that an internet shutdown impacts the authorities as well, causing everyone to suffer. However, when the internet is restored, our Bitcoins will remain intact and untouched, thanks to its decentralized nature. What happened during the five-day internet shutdown in Bangladesh demonstrates that even in a crisis, your assets stored in Bitcoin remain safe. While there may be inconveniences in processing transactions, the most important factor is the security of your funds. Bitcoin serves as a hedge against crises that could cripple values or the economy.
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: famososMuertos on July 27, 2024, 08:15:27 AM
I don't think that satellite internet would solve anything, at least for most of the people, and it's not available everywhere....//,,,,

Satellite Internet has allowed indigenous communities to communicate, also isolated peoples have become connected, etc.

The use of satellite Internet, and the configuration of a fiber optic network is allowing inaccessible places to communicate, the low costs of fiber optics are incredible and you can, with a pair of transmitters + fiber optics, provide Internet to hundreds of users, also among other alternatives, cars are being equipped with modifications of Starlink antennas, in short...  with SL you have many solutions.

The case of the OP, goes beyond the simple conjecture of using bitcoin without -internet, it is a complex social political issue, which unfortunately is leaving many young people dead.
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: Stompix on July 27, 2024, 03:21:35 PM
Can a Satelite Internet connection can be only the way ?

Depends how much the government wants to shut down everyone, the signal from any device linking to a satellite can easily be isolated by tracking radars from the 70s so one mobile radar near the city can give away your location immediately, in the end, it's about how much they care, they want to crash everyone then you're just making your situation worse.
Besides they could easily jam that too for large-density areas to deny you service if the military is involved.





Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: Hamza2424 on July 27, 2024, 05:04:19 PM
Crypto Library, TBH I'm feeling so sad, that such a crisis is ongoing in your country and, on top of that this crisis is just because of a democratic protest, which is the right of everyone Students are going through a hard time, May Allah Bless you guys and give you patience and Strength. No internet is really a big problem, but what can we do against such dictators except the protests?

For the general point of view.
TBH, I don't think no internet situation is gonna ever happen because it is not the age of land-line internet, now we own the latest satellite communication, Until or unless there's WW3, I dont think there will be 100% no internet on this planet.
Our situation is really on a disaster. So far the strong movement has been going on and now it is going on to arrest those who are with the movement. Already our dictator's forces are taking away our students from their homes and hostels, many of them are nowhere to be found. And besides, we currently have to use social media using VPN. And today I have to use VPN to access bitcointalk and Altcointalk forums. I myself am afraid when the police come to my house. So strict surveillance is being made that those who have posted related to this movement on social media are also being arrested. Already 2500 students have been arrested for protesting.

May Allah protect you all, we are praying for the safety of you guys, stay strong and consistent. TBH as far as i know this protest was started against the reserved quota, anyway whatever it is as you've mentioned they are now going to arrest the people who are involved with this movement, i would say this is not the first time happened in worlds TBH, recently this what happened in Pakistan as well with the PTI supporters and many are still facing the consequences.
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: 0t3p0t on July 27, 2024, 05:21:15 PM
Crypto Library, TBH I'm feeling so sad, that such a crisis is ongoing in your country and, on top of that this crisis is just because of a democratic protest, which is the right of everyone Students are going through a hard time, May Allah Bless you guys and give you patience and Strength. No internet is really a big problem, but what can we do against such dictators except the protests?

For the general point of view.
TBH, I don't think no internet situation is gonna ever happen because it is not the age of land-line internet, now we own the latest satellite communication, Until or unless there's WW3, I dont think there will be 100% no internet on this planet.
Our situation is really on a disaster. So far the strong movement has been going on and now it is going on to arrest those who are with the movement. Already our dictator's forces are taking away our students from their homes and hostels, many of them are nowhere to be found. And besides, we currently have to use social media using VPN. And today I have to use VPN to access bitcointalk and Altcointalk forums. I myself am afraid when the police come to my house. So strict surveillance is being made that those who have posted related to this movement on social media are also being arrested. Already 2500 students have been arrested for protesting.

May Allah protect you all, we are praying for the safety of you guys, stay strong and consistent. TBH as far as i know this protest was started against the reserved quota, anyway whatever it is as you've mentioned they are now going to arrest the people who are involved with this movement, i would say this is not the first time happened in worlds TBH, recently this what happened in Pakistan as well with the PTI supporters and many are still facing the consequences.
Yeah it's been a long time since these kind of resistance are operating especially in third world countries like mine our government is also fighting against insurgents and terrorists and in addition to that we also have external threats so if those underwater cable are damaged I'm sure we will be having a hard time with communications and access to internet. Though I personally plan to buy a starlink unit before something will disrupt our internet connection but it was like more or less $400 plus the additional more or less $50 monthly subscription which is too much for me that is why I am only using data connection right now as satelite internet is quite expensive.
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: JunaidAzizi on July 27, 2024, 06:19:04 PM
Now I want to know if there is ever such a situation in your country then what should be the pre-preparation?
It's a blessing that Bitcoin is decentralized and that one can control it. Perhaps the government will restrict it like the internet and keep its use for their benefits. In your case, I would recommend migrating to another state as much as possible because you can't do anything against the government, and for the safety of your assets, it is very necessary. As for the answer to your other question, using a satellite will be the last option to access your assets, but it will cost too much, and maybe we can't afford it. This is my opinion, as I have not used it.
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: Crypto Library on July 27, 2024, 07:39:54 PM
May Allah protect you all, we are praying for the safety of you guys, stay strong and consistent. TBH as far as i know this protest was started against the reserved quota, anyway whatever it is as you've mentioned they are now going to arrest the people who are involved with this movement, i would say this is not the first time happened in worlds TBH, recently this what happened in Pakistan as well with the PTI supporters and many are still facing the consequences.
I have also seen some videos about the incident in Pakistan It is also very sad. And you are right that it is actually quota movement, reservation in our government jobs was 56% and only 44% people could get government jobs through merit. In our situation in Bangladesh, the movement was of students and it was definitely peaceful. Later, after the attack of the ruling party, the peaceful movement turned into a bloody movement and all the students across the country took to the streets. But around 6000 students have been detained till today's news by shutting down the internet and curfew.

It's a blessing that Bitcoin is decentralized and that one can control it. Perhaps the government will restrict it like the internet and keep its use for their benefits. In your case, I would recommend migrating to another state as much as possible because you can't do anything against the government, and for the safety of your assets, it is very necessary. As for the answer to your other question, using a satellite will be the last option to access your assets, but it will cost too much, and maybe we can't afford it. This is my opinion, as I have not used it.
What I have seen is that nothing is possible without internet, I have heard that there is a possibility of shutting down the internet from the government because currently the video footage of the incidents that happened in the previous five days is spreading on the internet. Which is leaving the government in a state of discomfort. And because of this we are facing the biggest loss.
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: Faisal2202 on July 27, 2024, 09:15:42 PM
The fact that the government taking measures to shutdown the internet does not necessarily mean that they have control over Bitcoin.
Such exhibition is as the government's keep related internet technologies and bridging humans communication and not mean they have controls over Bitcoin.

Hence we should know that the shutdown of the internet will also affect them the authorities so everyone suffers it and at the restoration of the internet, our Bitcoins will still be intact for us untouched as decentralized financial technology it is.
We can say that what happened in that few 5days in Bangladesh is a reflection that even in crisis your assets or values stored in the Bitcoin will safe for you rather there would be inconveniences to process transactions. But what should be most mattered is the safety of your funds which Bitcoin is always a hedge towards such crisis potential to cripple values or the economy.
That's a good point, but what if you are in need of funds and most of your funds are in the form of BTC and you can't use the internet then how will you survive in such a situation? I guess taking a loan is the option remained there, but if the situation is like it is now in Bangladesh I don't think anyone will give a loan that easily. What the government did is not good they should not have gone this far killing students and shutting down everything.

Internet ban is a thing in developing countries because till now I have not seen it happening in developed countries, it even happened in my country as well. We all suffered but I took a loan in that time period as I totally depend on online work as a freelancer I prefer not to take cash with me. In short we are not prepared for it but those who have experienced it for sometime they know how hard it is so prepare before its too late.
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: Wiwo on July 27, 2024, 10:26:14 PM
What will you do with their transactions/trades in this situation? Can a Satelite Internet connection can be only the way ?
Like I have explained on the other forum, yes because the government have control over the underwater internet cables. Those internet providers using underwater internet cables are regulated by the government, and they can be controlled. Only satelite internet connection would be the option to go for.
The government control both the under water and on air site light so regardless of the route where the access the Internet, the government have total control but the bigger question is will they be able to survive without the intenrnet?

Government is the so responsible agent to control the life's and access to the Internet and what the do with sites that they visit on the intenrnet, this is why you see government blocking some websites.
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: MUGNIA on July 28, 2024, 03:27:56 PM
That's why I mentioned satellite internet as an alternative. I actually doubted whether the satellite internet connection would work at all. But besides, I myself do not know which company provides satellite internet in Bangladesh and what is their price. I heard about Starlink and I have no idea about its pricing.
However, as a 3rd world country and based on the income of most people, most of them do not have the affordability to implement this satellite.
According to what I found out online, Starlink subscription in Bangladesh is expensive with a monthly subscription of around $120. This may be wrong but that was what I saw online. The kit is around $599 dollars.

https://www.thedailystar.net/business/news/musks-starlink-make-entry-bangladesh-3487811

quite expensive with a cost of 120$ per month, and have to buy a device at that price,
but if there is no other choice for the sake of smooth transactions I think it's not a problem,
especially if you can get 120$ or even more from your income trading on various exchanges
if in my country there is an internet blackout maybe I will wait until the time limit determined by the government, because I am sure the government also needs the internet to communicate with other countries
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: armanda90 on July 28, 2024, 03:57:32 PM
How many days the Bangladesh government block or suspend with internet access for their citizen? Its very terrible condition how to against their citizen not happy how the government decision. The government have full control with internet access and we can't do anything except keep holding bitcoin assets and sell it after internet get recovery.
Difficult position for Bangladesh citizen exactly for they are traders, investors and the worker who have remote controling work. Wish the Bangladesh citizen can get back their internet recovery and return back to normally activities with internet access.
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: Stompix on July 28, 2024, 04:25:07 PM
if in my country there is an internet blackout maybe I will wait until the time limit determined by the government, because I am sure the government also needs the internet to communicate with other countries

And, what stops them from allowing internet from offices and not from home users?
Just as your ISP cuts your internet when you don't pay the bill they can order every ISP to shut down all connections from normal consumers and keep only governmental services online, they can even allow special services banks to keep running while the rest of the population will have nothing.

The government control both the under water and on air site light so regardless of the route where the access the Internet, the government have total control

No government in this world has control over air communications, they can interfere with them but not control, and in countries with large areas even less of that, they could jam satellites in the capital city for example but good luck jamming all of Texas.
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on July 28, 2024, 04:30:01 PM
Now I want to know if there is ever such a situation in your country then what should be the pre-preparation?
I sure have come across this same topic of discussion on btt, and my opinion was one thing, which is that if Para-adventure, the world hit or experience an internet blackout even for just one hour, everyone of us will have alot of issues to worry about, and bitcoin or cryptocurrencies will be the last of them all.

I tell you categorically now that this world we live in is already used to the internet, that is, it's beginning to seem like the world itself is built and operating through the internet, without internet even for one hour, the world will collapse.
So, for topics like this, bitcoin shouldn't be the only thing we think about, because again, a world without internet for 24 hours, trust me, even the government systems will collapse.
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: Wiwo on July 28, 2024, 05:25:16 PM
No government in this world has control over air communications, they can interfere with them but not control, and in countries with large areas even less of that, they could jam satellites in the capital city for example but good luck jamming all of Texas.
Oh really I thought government have power over air site lights communications, since on a couple of time, we the government in my country have taken down some Internet service providers who may have acted against the government regulations or under political battle since there is a high rate of corruption in this part of the world, but now that I read that the government have not total control that sounds as a big relief and an assurance that governments have no control over bitcoin if they have no control over the Internet and in the situations where the government tries to halt the service of any Internet providers there will always be an alternative to connect to the Internet.
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: ZAINmalik75 on July 28, 2024, 06:27:02 PM
Seriously? Is your country that strict at this time? I am concerned about the situation, hopefully there will be a solution that benefits all parties soon. Because basically, the need for internet is not only for Bitcoin users. If the government does it to suppress the number of people involved in Bitcoin and crypto, then that is not the right step, because after all, isn't the internet already one of the main parts for society for their daily activities? But what do you mean, is the internet connection that is cut off only from the government or all providers in the country? If so, won't the providers also suffer great losses if the internet has to go down for a few days?
It did not happen now or happened recently. It took place almost a year ago in May 2023.  The government did not ban crypto to suppress the people involved in crypto because they know people are not only involved in crypto in their Wi-Fi they are doing other work too. Most of the people are doing online work nowadays and more and more people want to do Online work in different fields.

They shut down the internet to suppress the supporters of the PTI party because they were spreading more awareness of the situation that the opposition had created for the PTI leader. They were trying to arrest him without any real cause. You can learn more about him on the Internet news section. We all suffered great loss financially.
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: electronicash on July 28, 2024, 08:11:52 PM
Seriously? Is your country that strict at this time? I am concerned about the situation, hopefully there will be a solution that benefits all parties soon. Because basically, the need for internet is not only for Bitcoin users. If the government does it to suppress the number of people involved in Bitcoin and crypto, then that is not the right step, because after all, isn't the internet already one of the main parts for society for their daily activities? But what do you mean, is the internet connection that is cut off only from the government or all providers in the country? If so, won't the providers also suffer great losses if the internet has to go down for a few days?
It did not happen now or happened recently. It took place almost a year ago in May 2023.  The government did not ban crypto to suppress the people involved in crypto because they know people are not only involved in crypto in their Wi-Fi they are doing other work too. Most of the people are doing online work nowadays and more and more people want to do Online work in different fields.

They shut down the internet to suppress the supporters of the PTI party because they were spreading more awareness of the situation that the opposition had created for the PTI leader. They were trying to arrest him without any real cause. You can learn more about him on the Internet news section. We all suffered great loss financially.

they could find a reason to suppress now but it will not also help the government. shutting down the internet like cutting the underwater cables is like isolating the country. for the government to run, they also need the internet and the banking system also needs the internet.

everything today needs internet to function. Bangladesh must have lost a lot of money after shutting off the internet for 5 days. like the rest of the countries today, they also suffered inflation.
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: Crypto Library on July 28, 2024, 09:11:05 PM
I tell you categorically now that this world we live in is already used to the internet, that is, it's beginning to seem like the world itself is built and operating through the internet, without internet even for one hour, the world will collapse.
So, for topics like this, bitcoin shouldn't be the only thing we think about, because again, a world without internet for 24 hours, trust me, even the government systems will collapse.
A lot of this has happened in our country too, not only crypto trader or bitcoin adapter or the miner, to say the entire office court, banking sector of the country was collapsed for these 5 days. And the freelancers have lost a huge amount. I don't know if it will be possible in the future like bitcoin there will be a new invention that will decentralize the internet also.
Oh really I thought government have power over air site lights communications, since on a couple of time, we the government in my country have taken down some Internet service providers who may have acted against the government regulations or under political battle since there is a high rate of corruption in this part of the world, but now that I read that the government have not total control that sounds as a big relief and an assurance that governments have no control over bitcoin if they have no control over the Internet and in the situations where the government tries to halt the service of any Internet providers there will always be an alternative to connect to the Internet.
Not really Like that because just now I came to know that starlink also have to get liciend of our Bangladesh Telecommunication Regulatory Commission (BTRC) for starting of a business in Bangladesh. So think government have the power also over the air.
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: 0t3p0t on July 28, 2024, 09:43:04 PM
I tell you categorically now that this world we live in is already used to the internet, that is, it's beginning to seem like the world itself is built and operating through the internet, without internet even for one hour, the world will collapse.
So, for topics like this, bitcoin shouldn't be the only thing we think about, because again, a world without internet for 24 hours, trust me, even the government systems will collapse.
A lot of this has happened in our country too, not only crypto trader or bitcoin adapter or the miner, to say the entire office court, banking sector of the country was collapsed for these 5 days. And the freelancers have lost a huge amount. I don't know if it will be possible in the future like bitcoin there will be a new invention that will decentralize the internet also.
Oh really I thought government have power over air site lights communications, since on a couple of time, we the government in my country have taken down some Internet service providers who may have acted against the government regulations or under political battle since there is a high rate of corruption in this part of the world, but now that I read that the government have not total control that sounds as a big relief and an assurance that governments have no control over bitcoin if they have no control over the Internet and in the situations where the government tries to halt the service of any Internet providers there will always be an alternative to connect to the Internet.
Not really Like that because just now I came to know that starlink also have to get liciend of our Bangladesh Telecommunication Regulatory Commission (BTRC) for starting of a business in Bangladesh. So think government have the power also over the air.
Yeah freelancers from Bangladesh are I think in huge numbers based on what I have observed on Telegram some years back and this really is bad for them as internet is cut which is essential to get paid. I feel them really as this happened to my place once but it's due to natural disasters wherein internet and power supply was cut for like 7 months so it really hurts a lot.
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: nakamura12 on July 28, 2024, 10:00:46 PM
It is a pain in the ass if the internet is shutdown for 5 days and you'll just have to wait for five days. The thing that people should worry is about internet shutting down completely and not just for five days. If there's a satellite internet in my country like $120 per month is already too expensive. It's what many people in my country received from their salary for 2 weeks or more.
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: KingsDen on July 28, 2024, 10:13:32 PM
It is a pain in the ass if the internet is shutdown for 5 days and you'll just have to wait for five days. The thing that people should worry is about internet shutting down completely and not just for five days. If there's a satellite internet in my country like $120 per month is already too expensive. It's what many people in my country received from their salary for 2 weeks or more.
The internet shouldn't be down for more than minutes. I am surprised to learn that people stay without internet connection for 5days. Was it a total shutdown or it was a limited supply network.

$120 is a huge money in my country that people do not earn in two weeks. But if the 120 could connect upto 50 users, people can synergize to get the network and pay monthly.
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: Charles-Tim on July 29, 2024, 10:31:40 AM
It is a pain in the ass if the internet is shutdown for 5 days and you'll just have to wait for five days. The thing that people should worry is about internet shutting down completely and not just for five days. If there's a satellite internet in my country like $120 per month is already too expensive. It's what many people in my country received from their salary for 2 weeks or more.
The internet shouldn't be down for more than minutes. I am surprised to learn that people stay without internet connection for 5days. Was it a total shutdown or it was a limited supply network.

$120 is a huge money in my country that people do not earn in two weeks. But if the 120 could connect upto 50 users, people can synergize to get the network and pay monthly.
If you are referring to Starlink, you can connect up to 128 devices on the device. If it is a single device, you can get up to 600 mbps if the connection is good. But as you connect more device and using the devices, the Internet speed will be reducing. Also the network is not good when it is raining. But I think this would be good for those that have big family or people living at the same house.
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: bee on July 29, 2024, 12:04:14 PM
Just curious, at the time you posted your thread, what kind of internet were you using @op? I think that's the answer.
The intensity of bitcoin usage is not as high as one might think, compared to other sectors including those that facilitate people's primary activities such as education.
I don't know how long your government will be able to survive without this basic infrastructure in this day and age. If they persist for long, they will eventually have to fix a lot of things if the situation starts to cool down.
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: Stompix on July 29, 2024, 04:39:40 PM
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Oh really I thought government have power over air site lights communications, since on a couple of time, we the government in my country have taken down some Internet service providers who may have acted against the government regulations or under political battle since there is a high rate of corruption in this part of the world,

99.99% of the Internet is cables, cables can be controlled just as a road can, one block and the entire network is down.
No country can control entirely its air space from radio waves or satellite signals (maybe the Vatican since it's 1 square km) it can suppress certain areas,  but again suppressing is not control.

Not really Like that because just now I came to know that starlink also have to get liciend of our Bangladesh Telecommunication Regulatory Commission (BTRC) for starting of a business in Bangladesh. So think government have the power also over the air.

And how will they control that?
Do you think Starlink will give them a shutdown button for their satellites?
They gave them a license to operate in the country, which means selling services, being an entity, paying tax, and taking profits, but they won't be able to stop the signals even if they revoke their license.



Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: Gurujebs on July 29, 2024, 04:49:03 PM
How many days the Bangladesh government block or suspend with internet access for their citizen? Its very terrible condition how to against their citizen not happy how the government decision. The government have full control with internet access and we can't do anything except keep holding bitcoin assets and sell it after internet get recovery.
Difficult position for Bangladesh citizen exactly for they are traders, investors and the worker who have remote controling work. Wish the Bangladesh citizen can get back their internet recovery and return back to normally activities with internet access.

Whenever a problem becomes a norm in the society, a solutions comes when we least expect it. Very soon, there is going to be more independent internet provides that has independent protocol that no governments will ever be able to control either legally or illegally, not everything illegal is really a bad thing but any government can chose to called it illegal since they didn't approve the use.

If not some government hide behind some agenda and don't want to see the ugliness of the things they do to their citizens, why take away internet from the citizens. They are afraid how they are going to be judge but any government that loves this anarchy, their days are numbered.
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: Crypto Library on July 29, 2024, 07:39:01 PM
And how will they control that?
Do you think Starlink will give them a shutdown button for their satellites?
They gave them a license to operate in the country, which means selling services, being an entity, paying tax, and taking profits, but they won't be able to stop the signals even if they revoke their license.
How do they control that? It's simple to sense to understand "the license". Recently, all internet services were closed by the order of the government of Bangladesh. In this case, if Starlink or any other provider does not obey the government's order, then the government can take their license if they want. And of course, they can't do business where they don't get or don't have a license.
By the way starlink currently don't the coverage in my area's as I see on their official website. But the government has decided to award a licence to Starlink (https://www.thedailystar.net/business/news/musks-starlink-make-entry-bangladesh-3487811)

Here is the screenshot-
(https://i.ibb.co/Y7Q4XwN/1111111screenshot.png)
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: libert19 on July 29, 2024, 08:23:25 PM
I haven't planned anything about it, but one thing I know for sure is we'll figure something when such situation arises because as they say: necessity is mother of all discoveries.
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: dkbit98 on July 29, 2024, 11:50:11 PM
Bigger problem that internet for me is what happens if electricity goes down, because that will automatically bring down the internet as well.
No electricity for few days and nothing will function for payment systems, that includes Bitcoin and everything else.
We always need to keep physical cash for privacy and for worst case scenarios.
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: Captain Corporate on July 30, 2024, 12:08:18 AM
First of all, do not let that scammer Elon Musk make you think that it would be impossible for starlink to be ever down, there are a million ways how that could go wrong, just like how anything else could go wrong. That has the same possibility of going wrong as anything else, so if your normal internet is out, but starlink is working, there is a valid possibility that your normal internet could work when starlink is down. Aside from that, if we really take "no internet" as a real threat and possibility, nobody would give a damn about bitcoin, not specifically, all of the entire banking system would crash, governments would burn, we are talking about "end of the world" levels of issues here.
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: Stompix on July 30, 2024, 04:17:47 PM
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How do they control that? It's simple to sense to understand "the license". Recently, all internet services were closed by the order of the government of Bangladesh. In this case, if Starlink or any other provider does not obey the government's order, then the government can take their license if they want. And of course, they can't do business where they don't get or don't have a license.

Again, how will they control it?
I can buy a device from a neighboring country, set it up on my roof, and guess what, the license from the Bangladesh government won't be able to block my signal! They take their license, they block their business, who will they scramble all the singles from and to the Starlink satellites all around the country?

It's pretty simple, is Musk wants to allow North Korea to have internet access he will be able to do it, if NK wants to block Starlink services there they have no way of doing it.
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: KingsDen on July 30, 2024, 07:03:41 PM
If you are referring to Starlink, you can connect up to 128 devices on the device. If it is a single device, you can get up to 600 mbps if the connection is good. But as you connect more device and using the devices, the Internet speed will be reducing. Also the network is not good when it is raining. But I think this would be good for those that have big family or people living at the same house.
128 devices is a good number and it can be called a community. Let's do a layman calculation. If 128 people are paying $120, it means that one person will pay in cents. But then, it is difficult to see 128 interested people in a network unless for a company or large household. As you said, the larger the number of users, the lesser the network speed. It also does not depend on the number of connected devices but the level of internet consumption by a device. The poor network during rain is a limitation though.
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: Crypto Library on July 30, 2024, 08:36:28 PM
Again, how will they control it?
I can buy a device from a neighboring country, set it up on my roof, and guess what, the license from the Bangladesh government won't be able to block my signal! They take their license, they block their business, who will they scramble all the singles from and to the Starlink satellites all around the country?
Again I have to repeat the same thing that is the license, If they are not licensed in a country and even they want to run their services on that country then there is a high chances of getting their devices as a illegal and then I don't thing there will be a legal way to import those devices in your home. And besides, I still don't know if the government has any ability to identify those active devices. But I think most governments can have this ability.
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It's pretty simple, is Muask wants to allow North Korea to have internet access he will be able to do it, if NK wants to block Starlink services there they have no way of doing it.
I don't know if Musk ever had this desire or if he ever will.
And even if he has this desire, I don't think there is a 100% guarantee that he will succeed. North Korea doesn't have to block Starling's service, just to identify their devices and stop import them into their country.
And I don't think starlink wants to do business in any country illegally, because if you look at the screenshot of my previous post you can see there they have mentioned well "Order now to reserve your Starlink. Starlink is targeting coverage in your area in Starting in 2025. Availability is subject to regulatory approval. Within each coverage area, orders are fulfilled on a first-come, first-served basis."
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: Hamza2424 on July 30, 2024, 08:38:44 PM
I have also seen some videos about the incident in Pakistan It is also very sad. And you are right that it is actually quota movement, reservation in our government jobs was 56% and only 44% people could get government jobs through merit. In our situation in Bangladesh, the movement was of students and it was definitely peaceful. Later, after the attack of the ruling party, the peaceful movement turned into a bloody movement and all the students across the country took to the streets. But around 6000 students have been detained till today's news by shutting down the internet and curfew.

Hmm, the figures are quite terrible, as always I used to say May Allah bless you all, the current era is full of dictatorship, especially in the Sub-continent, TBH how in Bangladesh a dictatorship came into power of the country by using the name of democracy was the first indication for the people of Bangladesh that there is something wrong with the system, anyway I don't know much about that as its the internal matter.




Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: Crypto Library on July 31, 2024, 08:32:25 AM
Bigger problem that internet for me is what happens if electricity goes down, because that will automatically bring down the internet as well.
No electricity for few days and nothing will function for payment systems, that includes Bitcoin and everything else.
We always need to keep physical cash for privacy and for worst case scenarios.
The problem is everything is now connected to internet like if you want to pay bill or recharge your electric meter then you have to go bank or use mobile banking and due to whole internet shutdown every sector was stoped for first most of the peoples have also faced the same issue. Unfortunately in my house I used pre-paid meter and that insufficient balance on those days. So scenario also kinda same no internet no electricity.
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: Stompix on July 31, 2024, 02:55:49 PM
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Again I have to repeat the same thing that is the license, If they are not licensed in a country and even they want to run their services on that country then there is a high chances of getting their devices as a illegal and then I don't thing there will be a legal way to import those devices in your home. And besides, I still don't know if the government has any ability to identify those active devices. But I think most governments can have this ability.

You seriously don't want to understand and further admit that you were wrong when you said control!
Nobody from the government can CONTROL those satellites, end of the story, they can scream as much as they want, but they can't control it, NK can't control South Korean radios emitting into NK, and all they can do is try to jam the signal on the border, with a mess of satellites on top of your country good luck jamming anything more than part of the capital!

Yeah they can make them illegal, how are they going to control them?

I don't know if Musk ever had this desire or if he ever will.
And even if he has this desire, I don't think there is a 100% guarantee that he will succeed.

All he has to do is insert a few coordinates in the system and the satellite grid allows internet access to the whole country, now, what is the government going to do to CONTROL, again, because this is what we're talking, this?

You're talking suppositions, I'm talking technicalities, unless they can jam the signal possible but require vast amounts of power over small areas there is nothing else they can do! Can they hunt everyone with a dish on their roof, yeah, they can, but again this is not about control this is about a whack-a-mole competition!
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: Crypto Library on July 31, 2024, 10:53:28 PM
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Again I have to repeat the same thing that is the license, If they are not licensed in a country and even they want to run their services on that country then there is a high chances of getting their devices as a illegal and then I don't thing there will be a legal way to import those devices in your home. And besides, I still don't know if the government has any ability to identify those active devices. But I think most governments can have this ability.

You seriously don't want to understand and further admit that you were wrong when you said control!
Seriously dude me or you !!!!?
I don't understand what you mean by controlling like you have already said that the government the can make them illegal if they can make them illegal they can also stop importing the hardware to set up that and as well as you have also mentioned that they can also hunt the dishes from their roof.
So what happens when they do this? The thing is that no one is able to use the satellite internet. So here is the Internet of any use? Or isn't it called control? And if it is not called to be controlled, then you tell me a little about what is controlled in your opinion.

All he has to do is insert a few coordinates in the system and the satellite grid allows internet access to the whole country, now, what is the government going to do to CONTROL, again, because this is what we're talking, this?
Are it any technicalities talking or suppositions? I don't think Musk would ever do that because he already mentions it on his website. I think you missed that in my previous post.
And I don't think starlink wants to do business in any country illegally, because if you look at the screenshot of my previous post you can see there they have mentioned well "Order now to reserve your Starlink. Starlink is targeting coverage in your area in Starting in 2025. Availability is subject to regulatory approval. Within each coverage area, orders are fulfilled on a first-come, first-served basis."
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: JoyMarsha on July 31, 2024, 11:20:22 PM
Now I want to know if there is ever such a situation in your country then what should be the pre-preparation?
Situations like this ''network breakout" have never happened in my country. If this happens it will bring a lot of confusion in the country, and many won't get the solutions as easy to think about having a satelight as solution.

No network coverage is what a country shouldn't encounter in their country. I can imagine life without it, like spending days without the internet.
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: dkbit98 on July 31, 2024, 11:28:28 PM
The problem is everything is now connected to internet like if you want to pay bill or recharge your electric meter then you have to go bank or use mobile banking and due to whole internet shutdown every sector was stoped for first most of the peoples have also faced the same issue. Unfortunately in my house I used pre-paid meter and that insufficient balance on those days. So scenario also kinda same no internet no electricity.
Electricity is connected with everything, but I could still use my paper bills and buy something directly from local manufacturer, or trade with him even without electricity.
They are forcing everyone to switch on mobile banking apps because they are so easy and convenient, but there is a big hidden danger with this.
Soon they will not hire any people to work in banks, that is a lot of people going on street, not that I support banks in any way.
Than they are making everyone to switch in digital payments because they are preparing for CBDC.
Here is the latest lie from EU that digital euro will be most private electronic payment option  ::)
https://cointelegraph.com/news/digital-euro-private-electronic-payment
Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: Stompix on August 01, 2024, 03:10:40 PM
And if it is not called to be controlled, then you tell me a little about what is controlled in your opinion.

To be in control means to be able to command and decide, they can't command the satellites, they can only TRY to restrict access to the dishes, that is not control. By your definition, the US government is in control of the drug market because they can issue regulations and can confiscate drugs! Are they in control?  ;D

Are it any technicalities talking or suppositions? I don't think Musk would ever do that because he already mentions it on his website. I think you missed that in my previous post.

Again, if Musk says it will provide internet, there is nothing your government can do, issue a warning and then pop their veins in anger as there is nothing they would be able to do to stop it, which means they are not in control, it's Musk who is in control, he is the only one that can shut it down or keep it alive.

Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: Crypto Library on August 01, 2024, 05:26:50 PM
Electricity is connected with everything, but I could still use my paper bills and buy something directly from local manufacturer, or trade with him even without electricity.
They are forcing everyone to switch on mobile banking apps because they are so easy and convenient, but there is a big hidden danger with this.
Soon they will not hire any people to work in banks, that is a lot of people going on street, not that I support banks in any way.
Actually I can't also disagree with your opinion. I just want to convey here the difficulties that I and my countrymen went through to shut down the internet. What I have observed better in these few days is that internet banking and internet have made people's lives easier just as they have made them hostage to a central power. And as far as I can see, if there is no Internet, everything in the bank cryptocurrency is immobile.

Title: Re: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]
Post by: ZAINmalik75 on August 01, 2024, 11:22:47 PM
they could find a reason to suppress now but it will not also help the government. shutting down the internet like cutting the underwater cables is like isolating the country. for the government to run, they also need the internet and the banking system also needs the internet.
The necessary agencies like army official agencies to keep the country safe must be getting internet. They must have backup plans to provide them with internet facilities and if they want to suppress people from using the internet they can do it by making a cover-up. Like yesterday there was a shortage of internet and the whole country was not getting internet they made different stories that cables are cut by sharks etc.

Nobody knows the reality it can be a coverup too.
everything today needs internet to function. Bangladesh must have lost a lot of money after shutting off the internet for 5 days. like the rest of the countries today, they also suffered inflation.
Shutting down the internet for 5 days is the worst nightmare but in my country when they shut down the internet they only shit down sim internet. They do not shut down wifi internet unless there is an outage of it too.