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Author Topic: Are Crypto Users are really prepare to Face these situations?[No Internet]  (Read 2652 times)

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And how will they control that?
Do you think Starlink will give them a shutdown button for their satellites?
They gave them a license to operate in the country, which means selling services, being an entity, paying tax, and taking profits, but they won't be able to stop the signals even if they revoke their license.
How do they control that? It's simple to sense to understand "the license". Recently, all internet services were closed by the order of the government of Bangladesh. In this case, if Starlink or any other provider does not obey the government's order, then the government can take their license if they want. And of course, they can't do business where they don't get or don't have a license.
By the way starlink currently don't the coverage in my area's as I see on their official website. But the government has decided to award a licence to Starlink

Here is the screenshot-

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I haven't planned anything about it, but one thing I know for sure is we'll figure something when such situation arises because as they say: necessity is mother of all discoveries.

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Bigger problem that internet for me is what happens if electricity goes down, because that will automatically bring down the internet as well.
No electricity for few days and nothing will function for payment systems, that includes Bitcoin and everything else.
We always need to keep physical cash for privacy and for worst case scenarios.
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First of all, do not let that scammer Elon Musk make you think that it would be impossible for starlink to be ever down, there are a million ways how that could go wrong, just like how anything else could go wrong. That has the same possibility of going wrong as anything else, so if your normal internet is out, but starlink is working, there is a valid possibility that your normal internet could work when starlink is down. Aside from that, if we really take "no internet" as a real threat and possibility, nobody would give a damn about bitcoin, not specifically, all of the entire banking system would crash, governments would burn, we are talking about "end of the world" levels of issues here.

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How do they control that? It's simple to sense to understand "the license". Recently, all internet services were closed by the order of the government of Bangladesh. In this case, if Starlink or any other provider does not obey the government's order, then the government can take their license if they want. And of course, they can't do business where they don't get or don't have a license.

Again, how will they control it?
I can buy a device from a neighboring country, set it up on my roof, and guess what, the license from the Bangladesh government won't be able to block my signal! They take their license, they block their business, who will they scramble all the singles from and to the Starlink satellites all around the country?

It's pretty simple, is Musk wants to allow North Korea to have internet access he will be able to do it, if NK wants to block Starlink services there they have no way of doing it.

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If you are referring to Starlink, you can connect up to 128 devices on the device. If it is a single device, you can get up to 600 mbps if the connection is good. But as you connect more device and using the devices, the Internet speed will be reducing. Also the network is not good when it is raining. But I think this would be good for those that have big family or people living at the same house.
128 devices is a good number and it can be called a community. Let's do a layman calculation. If 128 people are paying $120, it means that one person will pay in cents. But then, it is difficult to see 128 interested people in a network unless for a company or large household. As you said, the larger the number of users, the lesser the network speed. It also does not depend on the number of connected devices but the level of internet consumption by a device. The poor network during rain is a limitation though.
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Again, how will they control it?
I can buy a device from a neighboring country, set it up on my roof, and guess what, the license from the Bangladesh government won't be able to block my signal! They take their license, they block their business, who will they scramble all the singles from and to the Starlink satellites all around the country?
Again I have to repeat the same thing that is the license, If they are not licensed in a country and even they want to run their services on that country then there is a high chances of getting their devices as a illegal and then I don't thing there will be a legal way to import those devices in your home. And besides, I still don't know if the government has any ability to identify those active devices. But I think most governments can have this ability.
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It's pretty simple, is Muask wants to allow North Korea to have internet access he will be able to do it, if NK wants to block Starlink services there they have no way of doing it.
I don't know if Musk ever had this desire or if he ever will.
And even if he has this desire, I don't think there is a 100% guarantee that he will succeed. North Korea doesn't have to block Starling's service, just to identify their devices and stop import them into their country.
And I don't think starlink wants to do business in any country illegally, because if you look at the screenshot of my previous post you can see there they have mentioned well "Order now to reserve your Starlink. Starlink is targeting coverage in your area in Starting in 2025. Availability is subject to regulatory approval. Within each coverage area, orders are fulfilled on a first-come, first-served basis."

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I have also seen some videos about the incident in Pakistan It is also very sad. And you are right that it is actually quota movement, reservation in our government jobs was 56% and only 44% people could get government jobs through merit. In our situation in Bangladesh, the movement was of students and it was definitely peaceful. Later, after the attack of the ruling party, the peaceful movement turned into a bloody movement and all the students across the country took to the streets. But around 6000 students have been detained till today's news by shutting down the internet and curfew.

Hmm, the figures are quite terrible, as always I used to say May Allah bless you all, the current era is full of dictatorship, especially in the Sub-continent, TBH how in Bangladesh a dictatorship came into power of the country by using the name of democracy was the first indication for the people of Bangladesh that there is something wrong with the system, anyway I don't know much about that as its the internal matter.




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Bigger problem that internet for me is what happens if electricity goes down, because that will automatically bring down the internet as well.
No electricity for few days and nothing will function for payment systems, that includes Bitcoin and everything else.
We always need to keep physical cash for privacy and for worst case scenarios.
The problem is everything is now connected to internet like if you want to pay bill or recharge your electric meter then you have to go bank or use mobile banking and due to whole internet shutdown every sector was stoped for first most of the peoples have also faced the same issue. Unfortunately in my house I used pre-paid meter and that insufficient balance on those days. So scenario also kinda same no internet no electricity.

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Again I have to repeat the same thing that is the license, If they are not licensed in a country and even they want to run their services on that country then there is a high chances of getting their devices as a illegal and then I don't thing there will be a legal way to import those devices in your home. And besides, I still don't know if the government has any ability to identify those active devices. But I think most governments can have this ability.

You seriously don't want to understand and further admit that you were wrong when you said control!
Nobody from the government can CONTROL those satellites, end of the story, they can scream as much as they want, but they can't control it, NK can't control South Korean radios emitting into NK, and all they can do is try to jam the signal on the border, with a mess of satellites on top of your country good luck jamming anything more than part of the capital!

Yeah they can make them illegal, how are they going to control them?

I don't know if Musk ever had this desire or if he ever will.
And even if he has this desire, I don't think there is a 100% guarantee that he will succeed.

All he has to do is insert a few coordinates in the system and the satellite grid allows internet access to the whole country, now, what is the government going to do to CONTROL, again, because this is what we're talking, this?

You're talking suppositions, I'm talking technicalities, unless they can jam the signal possible but require vast amounts of power over small areas there is nothing else they can do! Can they hunt everyone with a dish on their roof, yeah, they can, but again this is not about control this is about a whack-a-mole competition!

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Again I have to repeat the same thing that is the license, If they are not licensed in a country and even they want to run their services on that country then there is a high chances of getting their devices as a illegal and then I don't thing there will be a legal way to import those devices in your home. And besides, I still don't know if the government has any ability to identify those active devices. But I think most governments can have this ability.

You seriously don't want to understand and further admit that you were wrong when you said control!
Seriously dude me or you !!!!?
I don't understand what you mean by controlling like you have already said that the government the can make them illegal if they can make them illegal they can also stop importing the hardware to set up that and as well as you have also mentioned that they can also hunt the dishes from their roof.
So what happens when they do this? The thing is that no one is able to use the satellite internet. So here is the Internet of any use? Or isn't it called control? And if it is not called to be controlled, then you tell me a little about what is controlled in your opinion.

All he has to do is insert a few coordinates in the system and the satellite grid allows internet access to the whole country, now, what is the government going to do to CONTROL, again, because this is what we're talking, this?
Are it any technicalities talking or suppositions? I don't think Musk would ever do that because he already mentions it on his website. I think you missed that in my previous post.
And I don't think starlink wants to do business in any country illegally, because if you look at the screenshot of my previous post you can see there they have mentioned well "Order now to reserve your Starlink. Starlink is targeting coverage in your area in Starting in 2025. Availability is subject to regulatory approval. Within each coverage area, orders are fulfilled on a first-come, first-served basis."

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Now I want to know if there is ever such a situation in your country then what should be the pre-preparation?
Situations like this ''network breakout" have never happened in my country. If this happens it will bring a lot of confusion in the country, and many won't get the solutions as easy to think about having a satelight as solution.

No network coverage is what a country shouldn't encounter in their country. I can imagine life without it, like spending days without the internet.

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The problem is everything is now connected to internet like if you want to pay bill or recharge your electric meter then you have to go bank or use mobile banking and due to whole internet shutdown every sector was stoped for first most of the peoples have also faced the same issue. Unfortunately in my house I used pre-paid meter and that insufficient balance on those days. So scenario also kinda same no internet no electricity.
Electricity is connected with everything, but I could still use my paper bills and buy something directly from local manufacturer, or trade with him even without electricity.
They are forcing everyone to switch on mobile banking apps because they are so easy and convenient, but there is a big hidden danger with this.
Soon they will not hire any people to work in banks, that is a lot of people going on street, not that I support banks in any way.
Than they are making everyone to switch in digital payments because they are preparing for CBDC.
Here is the latest lie from EU that digital euro will be most private electronic payment option  ::)
https://cointelegraph.com/news/digital-euro-private-electronic-payment
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And if it is not called to be controlled, then you tell me a little about what is controlled in your opinion.

To be in control means to be able to command and decide, they can't command the satellites, they can only TRY to restrict access to the dishes, that is not control. By your definition, the US government is in control of the drug market because they can issue regulations and can confiscate drugs! Are they in control?  ;D

Are it any technicalities talking or suppositions? I don't think Musk would ever do that because he already mentions it on his website. I think you missed that in my previous post.

Again, if Musk says it will provide internet, there is nothing your government can do, issue a warning and then pop their veins in anger as there is nothing they would be able to do to stop it, which means they are not in control, it's Musk who is in control, he is the only one that can shut it down or keep it alive.


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Electricity is connected with everything, but I could still use my paper bills and buy something directly from local manufacturer, or trade with him even without electricity.
They are forcing everyone to switch on mobile banking apps because they are so easy and convenient, but there is a big hidden danger with this.
Soon they will not hire any people to work in banks, that is a lot of people going on street, not that I support banks in any way.
Actually I can't also disagree with your opinion. I just want to convey here the difficulties that I and my countrymen went through to shut down the internet. What I have observed better in these few days is that internet banking and internet have made people's lives easier just as they have made them hostage to a central power. And as far as I can see, if there is no Internet, everything in the bank cryptocurrency is immobile.


 

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