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Title: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: TomPluz on September 09, 2024, 06:35:37 AM


After the Bitcoin faucet became popular and made many people really "rich" that is if they continually keep the coins they gathered from such a very generous offer, bounty hunting came on the scene and it was likewise a proven way to make good money in the cryptocurrency industry. Those were the early days and if you happen to be on that time then I am sure you also experienced phishing which became a very popular way to hack into your wallet.

So what is phishing? Phishing is the practice of sending fraudulent communications  (https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/security/email-security/what-is-phishing.html)that appear to come from a legitimate and reputable source, usually through email and text messaging. The attacker's goal is to steal money, gain access to sensitive data and login information, or to install malware on the victim's device. Phishing is a dangerous, damaging, and an increasingly common type of cyberattack.

Sadly, I was one of the victims of phishing in those time when I was still so innocent, naive and didn't know much on how to safeguard my account and wallet. How they did it? They sent me a message in Stack that there was something wrong with my MEW wallet and I need to login immediately...unfortunately I clicked the fake link which they provided where I input my details.

Right now, most people in the cryptocurrency industry are already aware of phishing and there are now many safeguard tools that can help us avoid this problem. The most important thing is to be always vigilant and to triple check the site URL you are logging in to make sure it is the legit one.


Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: _act_ on September 09, 2024, 10:29:01 AM
The most important thing is to be always vigilant and to triple check the site URL you are logging in to make sure it is the legit one.
Yes, checking the url of the sites that you are visiting is very important, but did you know that people that are affected by phishing attack do not even know knowledge into click on the link at all. The best would be to know when phishing email or message is sent and just avoid it. No need to click on the link attacked to the message. It is good to also discard the emails and others means of getting those messages. Also you can report the messages as spam and block the account that is sending it.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: bitterguy28 on September 09, 2024, 10:54:55 AM
They sent me a message in Stack that there was something wrong with my MEW wallet and I need to login immediately...unfortunately I clicked the fake link which they provided where I input my details.
usually the hacking happens after the user inputs their details or interacts with the website so unless you do this you are safe my recommendation is to ALWAYS check the link and check if the domain is legitimate or not if you have any kind of suspicion small or not don’t go through with the link
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Right now, most people in the cryptocurrency industry are already aware of phishing and there are now many safeguard tools that can help us avoid this problem. The most important thing is to be always vigilant and to triple check the site URL you are logging in to make sure it is the legit one.
there are efforts being made to filter out spams and suspicious messages but it is still up to us to make sure we don’t fall victims to such attacks after all it is our devices and our accounts that we hold and there’s no one else but us that can protect it
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: bitmover on September 09, 2024, 01:55:44 PM
The most important thing is to be always vigilant and to triple check the site URL you are logging in to make sure it is the legit one.
Yes, checking the url of the sites that you are visiting is very important, but did you know that people that are affected by phishing attack do not even know knowledge into click on the link at all. The best would be to know when phishing email or message is sent and just avoid it. No need to click on the link attacked to the message. It is good to also discard the emails and others means of getting those messages. Also you can report the messages as spam and block the account that is sending it.

I agree. Just avoid clicking links from e-mail and also avoid downloading files from email

If you want to visit a website that someone sent you by email, just try to Google it first to verify that it is safe.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: bayu7adi on September 09, 2024, 02:12:13 PM
Okay, maybe many of you here know about phishing.. but I focus more on the point of "planting malware to steal data"... this is also a tool used by phishing perpetrators to steal victim's money... and I was once a victim of phishing because my data was finally exposed on the internet....

According to you here, is a VPN with a high level of privacy and good encryption security able to minimize the occurrence of our data theft including phishing?
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: MrSpasybo on September 09, 2024, 07:25:21 PM
Sadly, I was one of the victims of phishing in those time when I was still so innocent, naive and didn't know much on how to safeguard my account and wallet. How they did it? They sent me a message in Stack that there was something wrong with my MEW wallet and I need to login immediately...unfortunately I clicked the fake link which they provided where I input my details.

Right now, most people in the cryptocurrency industry are already aware of phishing and there are now many safeguard tools that can help us avoid this problem. The most important thing is to be always vigilant and to triple check the site URL you are logging in to make sure it is the legit one.
I'm sorry to hear about your loss, and I hope you've been able to recover from the incident. I was also a victim of an internet scam when I created my first Ethereum account through MEW but from a fraudulent website that looked very similar to the official MyEtherWallet - MyEtherWalíet. My haste to participate in an ICO for a lending project caused me to lose a lot of ETH at that time, and I still regret it immensely.

I was too naive to trust a KOL in the crypto market. My unfortunate mistake was a result of FOMO and a lack of awareness of scams in this market. Newcomers should be cautious when clicking on any suggested links and avoid connecting their wallets to unfamiliar websites without thorough verification. The assets we work hard to earn can be stolen by a very small mistake that we could easily avoid if we are sober and have enough time.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Crwth on September 09, 2024, 07:57:19 PM
I'm sorry to hear that you are one of the people who have experienced this kind of thing. I hope you can recover from it and not be affected too much daily. It's essential to increase awareness with everyone, especially those who could be gullible. Every day, scams/phishing get more complicated and challenging to detect, so I suggest always being vigilant and using tools to help you secure and protect yourself.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Asiska02 on September 09, 2024, 08:51:27 PM
Right now, most people in the cryptocurrency industry are already aware of phishing and there are now many safeguard tools that can help us avoid this problem. The most important thing is to be always vigilant and to triple check the site URL you are logging in to make sure it is the legit one.

Phishing scams are one of the oldest method scammers use to steal from their victims. People who are unaware of them are in rush to check and react to the message sent to them immediately, notifying them is some dangers in the account which they need to take action on immediately. Unknown to them, the scammers will add a link to redirect them to a wrong site where they import their details and get their informations immediately and cater away with their funds. It might be an old method, but till date, it’s still alive and newbies without the knowledge of crypto are still falling scam of them. For any danger warning, one should follow it step wisely and always cross check the url and where you’re directed to rectify the error. They always find new means to get to their victims, one need to be informed of their latest means so as not to fall victim even as a pro cryptoneur.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: electronicash on September 09, 2024, 09:07:14 PM
Sadly, I was one of the victims of phishing in those time when I was still so innocent, naive and didn't know much on how to safeguard my account and wallet. How they did it? They sent me a message in Stack that there was something wrong with my MEW wallet and I need to login immediately...unfortunately I clicked the fake link which they provided where I input my details.

Right now, most people in the cryptocurrency industry are already aware of phishing and there are now many safeguard tools that can help us avoid this problem. The most important thing is to be always vigilant and to triple check the site URL you are logging in to make sure it is the legit one.
I'm sorry to hear about your loss, and I hope you've been able to recover from the incident. I was also a victim of an internet scam when I created my first Ethereum account through MEW but from a fraudulent website that looked very similar to the official MyEtherWallet - MyEtherWalíet. My haste to participate in an ICO for a lending project caused me to lose a lot of ETH at that time, and I still regret it immensely.

I was too naive to trust a KOL in the crypto market. My unfortunate mistake was a result of FOMO and a lack of awareness of scams in this market. Newcomers should be cautious when clicking on any suggested links and avoid connecting their wallets to unfamiliar websites without thorough verification. The assets we work hard to earn can be stolen by a very small mistake that we could easily avoid if we are sober and have enough time.

this is also the wallet is remember using when there are people complaining about their ERC20 tokens stolen. people use to login to that MyEtherWallet using their some code or some kind o a UTC*** file to access the wallet.

i was careful already not to click link from an email so i was never a victim. i wasn't one off those who were caught in doubler of phishing but a victim of ICOs that time. so many ETH being sent every new project thinking i could make more when its listed. teams didn't even care to say hello again in their telegram.



Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Findingnemo on September 09, 2024, 09:33:20 PM
Avoidable to certain extent but not completely safeguard unless we go completely cold to store our cryptos which might be inconvenient but trust me it worth the time than losing it to someone just cause we being stupid and clicked a random link. Now we can avoid most of them by checking their URLs and not to proceed if we find its unofficial but scammers are getting progress too, they sometimes can hack into their official website and let's do this on that case most people will fell for it.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on September 09, 2024, 10:01:50 PM
There have been a lot of ways through which scammers are using to make sure that landed at raging attacks on us, but when we are fully aware of their techniques, we are going to do all it may take us in avoiding for them, the use of social media is one of the fastest means through which they could easily seize an opportunity, but we must never give them chance by any means.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Sim_card on September 09, 2024, 10:02:28 PM
The most important thing is to be always vigilant and to triple check the site URL you are logging in to make sure it is the legit one.
Yes, checking the url of the sites that you are visiting is very important, but did you know that people that are affected by phishing attack do not even know knowledge into click on the link at all. The best would be to know when phishing email or message is sent and just avoid it. No need to click on the link attacked to the message. It is good to also discard the emails and others means of getting those messages. Also you can report the messages as spam and block the account that is sending it.
You are right it is better not to click on any email that you are not expecting and delete it to avoid any mistakes in the latter. What i do is that the moment i see any mail or link, I delete immediately because prevention is better. Malware is also another way which scammers use to scam their victims by sending malware to their keyboard so that when you are copying and pasting your wallet address, it changes it go the scammers wallet address an d if you don't cross check it, you will send your coins to them.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: JoyMarsha on September 09, 2024, 11:09:21 PM
The most important thing is to be always vigilant and to triple check the site URL you are logging in to make sure it is the legit one.
Yes, checking the url of the sites that you are visiting is very important, but did you know that people that are affected by phishing attack do not even know knowledge into click on the link at all. The best would be to know when phishing email or message is sent and just avoid it. No need to click on the link attacked to the message. It is good to also discard the emails and others means of getting those messages. Also you can report the messages as spam and block the account that is sending it.
You are right it is better not to click on any email that you are not expecting and delete it to avoid any mistakes in the latter. What i do is that the moment i see any mail or link, I delete immediately because prevention is better. Malware is also another way which scammers use to scam their victims by sending malware to their keyboard so that when you are copying and pasting your wallet address, it changes it go the scammers wallet address an d if you don't cross check it, you will send your coins to them.
This is very terrible. Someone should carefully cross-check their wallet address before hitting on send button. It would be pathetic if someone would later find out their wallet address was changed to a scammer's address when they are sending out their coins. The moment the coin is sent, it is unrecoverable. That's the painful part. Sending or receiving crypto addresses should be cross-checked before sending coins to anyone to avoid falling victim to such wrong address
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Zed0X on September 09, 2024, 11:32:12 PM
Slack and Discord were infested by scammers but the most common place from my observation is Telegram. Impersonating officers/moderators and then helping newbies via private messages probably works 5 out of 10 back in the day. Such method still works today but maybe to a lesser extent.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Rubel007 on September 10, 2024, 02:23:35 AM
I had the same experience as you. Although I myself was not harmed there. A friend of mine was admitted to such an attack. When he lost all his money I realized how painful the situation was. Phishing links which are just like any other site is a form where anyone can easily be attacked. Scammers can gain access to secret keys at any time due to user carelessness. When he admitted to the attack, he never understood how it was possible. But after losing everything he realized his mistake when he revisited things. Scammers create fakes to attack a user in a variety of ways. There is nothing to do but to be careful.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: vegasus on September 10, 2024, 10:58:12 PM
There have been many cases of asset loss due to phishing links. Not only in crypto cases but also other assets. Yes, because phishing links sent by hackers or scammers are that dangerous. And what's more, usually the victim is initially very unaware that he clicks on the phishing link.

And especially if you click on the link and follow the directions, usually malware or the like can easily enter our system and finally they can hack our devices very easily. Yes, that's why we have to be careful in every action, especially we have to be aware of the various links that are sent to us through anything, be it email, PM forum, social media, and others.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: joniboini on September 12, 2024, 02:15:05 AM
According to you here, is a VPN with a high level of privacy and good encryption security able to minimize the occurrence of our data theft including phishing?
I don't think a good VPN will help you with that. Most phishing attacks happen because a user clicks malicious, executes malicious code, downloads fake apps, etc. A VPN at best only helps us by filtering phishing ads etc, it won't help us filter fake apps or links that we downloaded willingly or not yet on their database. I believe most modern browsers have built-in phishing/malicious link filters, but they require an updated block list so you can still fall for new attacks. I use DNS filtering tools to do the same thing but it's not an ultimate solution to protect my safety. The best protection is still our own awareness of phishing attacks. CMIIW.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Faisal2202 on September 12, 2024, 12:19:12 PM
I didn’t come from the era of faucets, and I wouldn’t even say I was around in the early days of bounties, but I’ve participated in over 500 bounties and made decent money from them. Fortunately, I’ve never fallen victim to phishing links, excluding the spammy DMs I get on social media, like Twitter and Telegram.

I’m sorry to hear you got scammed, I hope you didn’t lose too much. I’ve always been cautious about links and ads. Back when computers were new to me, I spent most of my time playing games. When the internet finally came to my village, I was blown away by things like video calling. My father gave me one crucial piece of advice never click on links or phishing ads because they could contain viruses that would ruin our PC and my games.

Since I couldn’t risk losing my games, I learned from the start to avoid clicking on suspicious links. However, even with the best intentions, mistakes can happen, and people can still fall for phishing scams unintentionally.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Lucius on September 12, 2024, 02:45:06 PM
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Right now, most people in the cryptocurrency industry are already aware of phishing and there are now many safeguard tools that can help us avoid this problem. The most important thing is to be always vigilant and to triple check the site URL you are logging in to make sure it is the legit one.


Many are aware of the dangers, but considering the large number of new people entering this market, especially from countries with very poor education systems, it seems to me that there are many more who are not aware of the dangers at all.

I agree that we should always be careful and check links, and when you have a real (legitimate) link, it is best to save it in your favorites and always use it, but still always check if you are on a legitimate website before logging in.

Today, phishing links are spread through social networks, through communication apps or even SMS, but also through paid ads that are displayed at the top of search results when it comes to Google ads. In that case, the best protection is to install an ad blocker, uBlock Origin proved to be one of the best.

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Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: albon on September 18, 2024, 09:00:32 PM
I have a lot of phishing emails or messages in my mail box that i don't click or delete. I always avoid those mails which are unnecessary. When you click on a link to attack a phishing email or message, you may be in scam way and you can get lost in the magic of hacking. There is a lot of protest about this issue because of which everyone is now aware. But new crypto investors get entangled in these nets and they lose a lot of funds and fall prey to scamming. Be sure to visit that link wherever you get into crypto.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Jating on September 18, 2024, 09:11:21 PM
Regarding this news, Binance recently also posted their own bulletin about a malware clipper,

https://www.binance.com/en/blog/security/protect-your-crypto-understanding-the-ongoing-global-malware-attacks-and-what-we-are-doing-to-stop-them-7968393135385409266

So criminals are everywhere in the world that we move-in. Yeah, it's avoidable, we just have to really understand how we are going to be trapped by this scammers and so we can prevent them from making us the next victim here.

We should be just on the lookout, on how the scammers are trying to lure us. And again, if we are in crypto, we should not engage ourselves in downloading free apps as that is the rabbit hole for scammers to put their malware and viruses.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Rruchi man on September 18, 2024, 11:55:35 PM
So what is phishing?
You can even be sent a phishing link from your friends and family, and at the end of the day, you end up clicking on a link that you regret. You should not click links from anybody, regardless of your relationship status with them. I see examples of these links, some well packaged, You may think you are simply opening a link and that your action is harmless, whereas that is one of the biggest mistakes of your life.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: bayu7adi on September 19, 2024, 05:16:18 PM
So what is phishing?
You can even be sent a phishing link from your friends and family, and at the end of the day, you end up clicking on a link that you regret. You should not click links from anybody, regardless of your relationship status with them. I see examples of these links, some well packaged, You may think you are simply opening a link and that your action is harmless, whereas that is one of the biggest mistakes of your life.
Be careful, friends, always check first for any phishing possibilities when you want to make a transaction....
make sure the link listed is correct, and also make sure the wallet that is copied and pasted is correct... sometimes malware and phishing pages are very sudden and sudden. and that should be watched out for, especially when you are about to make a transaction.

Some websites offer security to avoid phishing links, but these hackers are not stupid either... they can still infiltrate in various ways. So, increase your caution so you don't become a victim of hacking.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Gurujebs on September 19, 2024, 06:39:17 PM
I had the same experience as you. Although I myself was not harmed there. A friend of mine was admitted to such an attack. When he lost all his money I realized how painful the situation was. Phishing links which are just like any other site is a form where anyone can easily be attacked. Scammers can gain access to secret keys at any time due to user carelessness. When he admitted to the attack, he never understood how it was possible. But after losing everything he realized his mistake when he revisited things. Scammers create fakes to attack a user in a variety of ways. There is nothing to do but to be careful.

I experienced one last few months, it was this year though the damage was small. I was looking for a cheap software for one design. It's an Autocad software and I was looking for free versions they call crack version. I was just going from one website to another until I finally got one and installed it on my computer but during that time, my anti virus warn me but I thought it was the usual firewall restrictions and I proceed and have everyone.

2 days later, my metamask wallet was drain. The meme coins I had on BSC20 wallet were swept and that actions looks like auto configuration. More like smart contract execution and I had to change my operating system and format everything in the computer and start all over again. Since that incident, I haven't experienced such again.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: LogitechMouse on September 19, 2024, 08:53:03 PM
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Sadly, I was one of the victims of phishing in those time when I was still so innocent, naive and didn't know much on how to safeguard my account and wallet. How they did it? They sent me a message in Stack that there was something wrong with my MEW wallet and I need to login immediately...unfortunately I clicked the fake link which they provided where I input my details.
If you're a newbie, I think making mistakes here and there are pretty much normal especially if you're doing it all by yourself, and no mentor or at least somebody knowledgeable on your side. Like I always say, doing the mistake once is understandable because you will learn from it, doing it twice means you have a problem already and you didn't learn from the first one, and doing it the third time means you need to quit investing because you might lose money in the long run.

Like you, I also made some mistakes when I was a newbie, but IIRC going to a phishing site and submitting my details isn't one of them. I got FOMOed but not phished.

Right now, most people in the cryptocurrency industry are already aware of phishing and there are now many safeguard tools that can help us avoid this problem. The most important thing is to be always vigilant and to triple check the site URL you are logging in to make sure it is the legit one.
Just to add to this one, I think bookmarking would be a good way to prevent yourself from accessing these phishing sites as well. Bookmarking those legit websites will prevent you to go to these phishing sites because you will notice it immediately. Nevertheless, always double or triple check the link still like what the OP said.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Mia Chloe on September 19, 2024, 09:27:21 PM
I have a lot of phishing emails or messages in my mail box that i don't click or delete. I always avoid those mails which are unnecessary. When you click on a link to attack a phishing email or message, you may be in scam way and you can get lost in the magic of hacking. There is a lot of protest about this issue because of which everyone is now aware. But new crypto investors get entangled in these nets and they lose a lot of funds and fall prey to scamming. Be sure to visit that link wherever you get into crypto.
Of course Phishing is one way  where attackers trick victims into revealing sensitive information. I think  one of the ways to protect yourself is to always verify sender authenticity and check to delete spam emails . Another important thing is being cautious with links and attachments from unfamiliar senders. Phishing is something that is very common just that sometimes they may come with new schemes and strategies that you may fall for based on the fact that you are not familiar with them  and this is the more reason we have to stay up to date and be vigilant in the cyber space.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Z-tight on September 19, 2024, 11:47:43 PM
So many people fall victim to phishing attacks, and i know it must be sad to lose your hard earned money to these crazy scammers, so i recommend cold storage. If you store your funds in an airgapped device, you cannot lose it to phishing attacks, it is also important not to click on random links and never let greed allow you do foolish things.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: PX-Z on September 19, 2024, 11:51:13 PM
Phishing is rampant and the most used tactics to hacked accounts these days. Exchanges have methods to avoid this, stating notes on any pages, mobile banking app as well have notes and emails, even saw sponsored posts in facebook and other socmed accounts for a anti-phishing campaigns. But guess what, there are still few users will be a victim of this kind of hacked once in a while or maybe once a week.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: bhadz on September 20, 2024, 05:01:45 AM
It's true that we need to be vigilant at most times because even if we're familiar with crypto and what we do but, with our online activities we can be caught unnoticed by these phishing. I've seen people posts on forums about how they have become a victim but they were not admitting any mistakes and they even boasts that they've been in crypto for so long and yet, they have became a victim of these phishing. Anyone can be a victim but don't let these cons win with their attempts on all of us.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Z-tight on September 20, 2024, 04:25:14 PM
I've seen people posts on forums about how they have become a victim but they were not admitting any mistakes and they even boasts that they've been in crypto for so long and yet, they have became a victim of these phishing. Anyone can be a victim but don't let these cons win with their attempts on all of us.
It is hard to identify the mistake you made when you get hacked, because it could be something really small, i.e. downloading an app into your device, or clicking on links you found on social media or in the web. A cold wallet is a must for every crypto user, if you store your funds in a device you use to do everything online, one day you may be unlucky and you'll become a victim yourself.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: armanda90 on September 20, 2024, 05:18:11 PM
I believe all trader have bad experienced with their cryptocurrency losing trough phishing link, I have fatal mistake when recently myetherwallet website become more popular and not bookmark the real website.
Opening google search the fake or phishing link lead on the first standing place search and I think its real myetherwallet website.

Just few minutes all my assets holding in myetherwallet gone and its reminder for me always booksmark all important wallet link how to secure our assets and easily for scammer make their phishing link lead the top standings search on google.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Themepen on September 20, 2024, 05:38:38 PM
My early days of cryptocurrency were exciting but also risky. Many people made money from Bitcoin faucets and bounty hunting but some fell victim to phishing scams. Phishing is harmful be we can lose money by this personal info can be stolen and our device gets viruses.

We should always check if messages are real. We should be careful with urgent requests and we should double check website addresses. By doing this we can safe ourselves. We can reduce more risk if we will update passwords often or if we will use secure crypto exchanges and we should report suspicious activity this will help others too.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Tribalchief on September 20, 2024, 05:44:01 PM
I believe all trader have bad experienced with their cryptocurrency losing trough phishing link, I have fatal mistake when recently myetherwallet website become more popular and not bookmark the real website.
Opening google search the fake or phishing link lead on the first standing place search and I think its real myetherwallet website.

Just few minutes all my assets holding in myetherwallet gone and its reminder for me always booksmark all important wallet link how to secure our assets and easily for scammer make their phishing link lead the top standings search on google.

So sorry to hear this. Such experience are quite terrible. These scammers are becoming more sophisticated day after day. They literally don't find new ways to perform a phishing attack, but they make upgrades to their old technics. Just imagine from your own experience, the phishing attack came in the form of a URL that you often visit, which is already a vulnerability that was exploited. I think this scammers most times study their victims, know what they use often (on the internet), and attack from that angle.

I also bookmarked most of the site I visit, not just because of phishing attacks, but because it is easier and faster to visit. The trauma that comes with losing funds to this attack is unimaginable. We can only help ourselves by being careful, but for how long can someone act careful without making him/herself vulnerable. Let's just stay safe.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Crypto Library on September 20, 2024, 08:46:09 PM
A survey alone shows that those who lost most of their crypto through phishing were mostly web3 wallet users. And hackers can easily hack it because once they know what is private, they can easily drain the web3 wallet. This happened to me a few years ago. I was basically a victim of phishing through trending content. I was a victim of phishing while downloading a cracked version of a game. Not only did they drain my web3 wallet, but they also took away all my private data access.
I think the only way to avoid being a victim of these phishing is that we have to be aware in the case of website browsing and of course before downloading any file we have to go to sites like virustotal and take a security check.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: sampoerna on September 20, 2024, 11:18:35 PM
I think the only way to avoid being a victim of these phishing is that we have to be aware in the case of website browsing and of course before downloading any file we have to go to sites like virustotal and take a security check.
Yes, we have to be more aware and careful about that. Because after all, sometimes, we accidentally click on certain links that endanger our devices.

because, basically there are several possible reasons why someone clicks on a phishing link:
- Because of ignorance, this also causes unawareness that the link is dangerous
- Because of carelessness, unknowingly randomly clicking on certain links without thinking
- Because the scammers are so convincing that we click on the link and we get carried away
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: robelneo on September 21, 2024, 03:31:27 PM

Sadly, I was one of the victims of phishing in those time when I was still so innocent, naive and didn't know much on how to safeguard my account and wallet. How they did it? They sent me a message in Stack that there was something wrong with my MEW wallet and I need to login immediately...unfortunately I clicked the fake link which they provided where I input my details.

Right now, most people in the cryptocurrency industry are already aware of phishing and there are now many safeguard tools that can help us avoid this problem. The most important thing is to be always vigilant and to triple check the site URL you are logging in to make sure it is the legit one.

I'm sure you've moved on from this, but still sorry for your loss, When we are new in this technology and we are excited to be part of it, we want to be guided, and so we trust people who communicated with us without knowing their true intention,, and if you happen to met a scammer its likely that you are going to get scam unless we know how scammers work and how they implement their scamming.

Its important that we read and get updated on the latest news and security because we are our own bank and so we are always the target of scammers.

Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: taufik123 on September 21, 2024, 07:30:07 PM
I'm sure you've moved on from this, but still sorry for your loss, When we are new in this technology and we are excited to be part of it, we want to be guided, and so we trust people who communicated with us without knowing their true intention,, and if you happen to met a scammer its likely that you are going to get scam unless we know how scammers work and how they implement their scamming.

Its important that we read and get updated on the latest news and security because we are our own bank and so we are always the target of scammers.
Trusting new people is the first mistake beginners make.
Because I myself felt it, as a beginner at that time, I was very excited to be able to learn how to make money from crypto and what it takes.

The scammer seems to be our personal teacher, but in the end just gives me a phishing link and creates my account and some wallets to be hacked, then they will not be able to be contacted and disappear.

It was a valuable lesson for me and to this day I really don't trust strangers who send me private messages via Telegram or email or even people who pretend to be people I know.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: libert19 on September 22, 2024, 11:40:53 AM
I have been phished a few times, thankfully it didn't cause much damage, as these were phishing webpages for private key and not something malicious that could compromise the whole system and make matters worse.

Also, I only came to know I was phished when I was asked to input seed phrase — the rule that never ever share your private key/seed saved me.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Kemarit on September 22, 2024, 12:38:53 PM
So many people fall victim to phishing attacks, and i know it must be sad to lose your hard earned money to these crazy scammers, so i recommend cold storage. If you store your funds in an airgapped device, you cannot lose it to phishing attacks, it is also important not to click on random links and never let greed allow you do foolish things.

It's good to have hardware wallets or cold storage. But sometimes we have web wallets that we used for our every day transaction. And that's where most of the victims are getting phished, because their computer might be compromised already as there are a lot of malwares that is being released by cyber criminals.

Yeah, that's one thing, not to click links specially suspicious. Or even links that we think that are safe, we should really check the source first as phishers knows how to imitate the legit site with their many tricks.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: bitterguy28 on September 24, 2024, 07:10:06 AM
My early days of cryptocurrency were exciting but also risky. Many people made money from Bitcoin faucets and bounty hunting but some fell victim to phishing scams. Phishing is harmful be we can lose money by this personal info can be stolen and our device gets viruses.
i guess the best way here is to have separate devices for your personal use and crypto related things we know that when we use our devices for scrolling through and interacting in social media there is a chance that we interact with suspicious links so it would be advisable that if you are going to store your funds online keep it in another device and make sure the software is always updated so that the security is at its best
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We can reduce more risk if we will update passwords often or if we will use secure crypto exchanges and we should report suspicious activity this will help others too.
another advice with passwords is that to never use the same password in two or multiple accounts whether that is crypto email or just social media so that in case an account gets compromised you do not have to worry about the rest of your accounts getting compromised as well
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Z-tight on September 24, 2024, 11:24:04 PM
It's good to have hardware wallets or cold storage. But sometimes we have web wallets that we used for our every day transaction. And that's where most of the victims are getting phished, because their computer might be compromised already as there are a lot of malwares that is being released by cyber criminals.
Yeah, i also have online wallets for spending on the go, but i don't keep more than $200 in it, so if i ever get attacked, i would lose only a very small amount of money. Some poeple keep so much money in online wallets, that is where they get it wrong, online wallets should only hold an amount that you cannot afford to lose, and the most of your funds should be in a cold wallet.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: sampoerna on September 24, 2024, 11:43:35 PM
Yeah, i also have online wallets for spending on the go, but i don't keep more than $200 in it, so if i ever get attacked, i would lose only a very small amount of money. Some poeple keep so much money in online wallets, that is where they get it wrong, online wallets should only hold an amount that you cannot afford to lose, and the most of your funds should be in a cold wallet.
Because phishing links are so dangerous that we really have to be aware of them from the start and be aware of these things and possibilities. Because honestly, even though we are as prepared as we can be, sometimes we are so unlucky at that time, maybe accidentally or unknowingly click on a certain link that causes malware to hack our device and in the end various assets that we save online will be very easy to steal. And this often happens.

Therefore, your idea to limit the number of assets online is quite reasonable. because even if we are unlucky and lose our assets, at least that is the amount we can afford to lose. And not a high amount so that we can be more prepared for various things that might happen.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Report on September 25, 2024, 06:10:38 AM
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Right now, most people in the cryptocurrency industry are already aware of phishing and there are now many safeguard tools that can help us avoid this problem. The most important thing is to be always vigilant and to triple check the site URL you are logging in to make sure it is the legit one.
Until now I have not been Phished and hopefully it will not happen to me someday. I also often check repeatedly for the latest website access about cryptocurrency. For example, to log in to the altcoisntalks forum, I also continue to check it repeatedly, whether the website is correct or not because with the writing altcoinstalks there are many examples that are almost similar: For example altcointalk, altcointolk, etc. and the correct writing is www.altcoinstalks.com.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: LogitechMouse on September 25, 2024, 12:49:43 PM
Phishing is rampant and the most used tactics to hacked accounts these days. Exchanges have methods to avoid this, stating notes on any pages, mobile banking app as well have notes and emails, even saw sponsored posts in facebook and other socmed accounts for a anti-phishing campaigns. But guess what, there are still few users will be a victim of this kind of hacked once in a while or maybe once a week.
It has always been, and now that many are expecting for the bull run to happen next year, expect more of these phishing links in the future. As the bull run approaches, these scammers will be more active in hunting those new investors as well.

What's good is that, most of the platforms are constantly giving warnings to their users in these phishing links, but there will be some that will fall into phishing sites for some reasons. Google on the other hand sometimes is bad in determining phishing sites or not because there are times where the phishing link is what's on top of a google search. I've experienced it myself already.

To prevent these phishing sites, the best thing to do is to bookmark those websites on your PC.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Z-tight on September 25, 2024, 09:07:20 PM
Therefore, your idea to limit the number of assets online is quite reasonable. because even if we are unlucky and lose our assets, at least that is the amount we can afford to lose. And not a high amount so that we can be more prepared for various things that might happen.
Exactly, that is the reason why cold storage is always recommended to store a huge amount in BTC. Take note that some people do not fully understand what cold storage is, they think it is a wallet that is offline but connected to the internet once in a while, that is wrong. A cold wallet is one that is completely disconnected from the internet and will never be connected to it again, if your cold wallet goes online, it no longer is a cold wallet.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Nheer on September 25, 2024, 11:07:41 PM
The most important thing is to be always vigilant and to triple check the site URL you are logging in to make sure it is the legit one.
The online world is very tricky and everyone needs to careful how they interact with things online because no one can be trusted and nothing seems to be safe that why we need to be always careful and vigilant all the time, we should not always click on any link without cross checking the authenticity of the link else we may end up falling victim to scammers.

Yes, checking the url of the sites that you are visiting is very important, but did you know that people that are affected by phishing attack do not even know knowledge into click on the link at all. The best would be to know when phishing email or message is sent and just avoid it. No need to click on the link attacked to the message. It is good to also discard the emails and others means of getting those messages. Also you can report the messages as spam and block the account that is sending it.
Some people don’t have the knowledge about phishing emails that’s why don’t know that avoiding it will be the best thing and it is because they lack knowledge about it. Every new beginner is expected to learn first so tgey will be exposed to certain situations and know what to do when they encounter such situations.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: God Of Thunder on September 26, 2024, 03:20:51 PM
Right now, most people in the cryptocurrency industry are already aware of phishing and there are now many safeguard tools that can help us avoid this problem. The most important thing is to be always vigilant and to triple check the site URL you are logging in to make sure it is the legit one.

Most people are aware of phishing, yet fall into that category. I suggest people double and triple-check the link before connecting their wallet to a website. But, a few months ago, I fell for a phishing scam. It mostly happens when you are careless because you think you are veteran enough. I was on my smartphone scrolling social media late at at night and received an email from Galaxyy whichsaids I forgot to claim some rewards. I did not check the URL and connected my wallet and boom! My wallet was drained.

It's not like I don't know how it works. I know it very well, but I was confident that I not that stupid to connect my wallet on a random website. The problem is, I was lazy to check the URL and the email sender. Veretan members even fall for scam just because they do not pay attention when needed.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Lucius on September 26, 2024, 04:49:17 PM
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Veretan members even fall for scam just because they do not pay attention when needed.


That's why you should have some security practices that would include having one or more e-mails that are only for cryptocurrencies, and that you can't access them on your phone, but only on your desktop computer. Experienced people separate things that fall under work and what falls under family/free time - and that means that I will never get any offer that will come at a time when I don't have full attention to such things.

There is a case where someone was left without a lot of money in a similar situation as you - he was tired and for some strange reason he made a transaction that he shouldn't have made, I think it was due to the poisoning address scam or something similar.

+1
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: God Of Thunder on September 28, 2024, 08:09:57 AM
That's why you should have some security practices that would include having one or more e-mails that are only for cryptocurrencies, and that you can't access them on your phone, but only on your desktop computer. Experienced people separate things that fall under work and what falls under family/free time - and that means that I will never get any offer that will come at a time when I don't have full attention to such things.

We learn from our mistakes. I do not use Web3 wallets on my mobile device anymore, or at least I do not connect them to any websites. About my emails, that specific email was exclusive for doing airdrops. So, I assume it was an airdrop website that was hacked, or they sold emails on the dark web or something similar. I was supposed not to receive any spam emails except where I signed up using this email.

That was another reason I did not doubt the email. I thought it was from Galaxy, and I went ahead without thinking about other possibilities. I was fucked up. I quickly disconnected the wallet and tried to cancel the transaction. But it was too late already. The entire wallet was drained except for the Polygon chain.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Publictalk792 on September 28, 2024, 04:27:02 PM

We learn from our mistakes. I do not use Web3 wallets on my mobile device anymore, or at least I do not connect them to any websites. About my emails, that specific email was exclusive for doing airdrops. So, I assume it was an airdrop website that was hacked, or they sold emails on the dark web or something similar. I was supposed not to receive any spam emails except where I signed up using this email.

That was another reason I did not doubt the email. I thought it was from Galaxy, and I went ahead without thinking about other possibilities. I was fucked up. I quickly disconnected the wallet and tried to cancel the transaction. But it was too late already. The entire wallet was drained except for the Polygon chain.
Your cryptocurrency mistake teaches us to be cautious and skeptical. You shared their error to warn us about connecting mobile wallets to websites and fake emails even from trusted sources. To avoid losing money users should keep wallets secure and check senders authenticity and beware of scams. Being vigilant is important in cryptocurrency. This experience shows that learning from mistakes helps others stay safe in complex crypto world. Thank you for sharing.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: NotATether on September 29, 2024, 06:06:08 AM
I use quite a few extensions to block out phishing links, in addition to my  email provider filtering out most of the emails in the first place (And honestly, if your email provider doesn't move messages to spam properly, get another mailbox!)

- uBlock Origin: Blocks most ads and trackers.
- uBlock Origin Lite: Same but an extra layer.
- Adguard: Same but an extra layer.
- Malwarebytes Browser Guard: Blocks scams and phishing.

And then there are websites like urlscan.io and radar.cloudflare.com for checking if a website could be a phishing site, as well as Phishtank.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Doovla on September 30, 2024, 06:42:47 PM
Hacked twice by fraudsters for whom I don't know the theft function because only the transfer of the transaction was done from the Binance exchange to my wallet, in other words, can the antiviruses from my computer prevent you from entering the fake sites that started your theft, maybe it is that solution for the alarm that arrives that the site is suspicious so it is blocked? I guess they use some kind of bots where they mark the address of the wallet with function condition codes and it's done for them.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: NotATether on October 03, 2024, 02:27:12 PM
Hacked twice by fraudsters for whom I don't know the theft function because only the transfer of the transaction was done from the Binance exchange to my wallet, in other words, can the antiviruses from my computer prevent you from entering the fake sites that started your theft, maybe it is that solution for the alarm that arrives that the site is suspicious so it is blocked? I guess they use some kind of bots where they mark the address of the wallet with function condition codes and it's done for them.

Rule number one of dealing with digital assets: nobody cares about your coins!

Let that sink in.

If you see anybody trying to offer you help with your wallet that you didn't ask for, especially strangers you don't know, then chances are that these are just scammers who want to steal your money.

Nobody should let that happen, and should keep an array of browser extensions and addons on their devices that block such links. AVs are less useful here
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: jeraldskie11 on October 05, 2024, 05:43:28 PM
Hacked twice by fraudsters for whom I don't know the theft function because only the transfer of the transaction was done from the Binance exchange to my wallet, in other words, can the antiviruses from my computer prevent you from entering the fake sites that started your theft, maybe it is that solution for the alarm that arrives that the site is suspicious so it is blocked? I guess they use some kind of bots where they mark the address of the wallet with function condition codes and it's done for them.

Rule number one of dealing with digital assets: nobody cares about your coins!

Let that sink in.

If you see anybody trying to offer you help with your wallet that you didn't ask for, especially strangers you don't know, then chances are that these are just scammers who want to steal your money.

Nobody should let that happen, and should keep an array of browser extensions and addons on their devices that block such links. AVs are less useful here
Even your best friend you have to be careful. Money is the root of sin, your friend can be tempted to do bad things to you as long as he knows that you have a lot of money. Especially if he knows that the money comes from crypto, people's thoughts if they know that is where your money comes from, they will look at you as rich. It is also possible that they will change their view of you. You better keep it private. Not only for your benefit but also for others.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Gurujebs on October 05, 2024, 06:45:14 PM
Your cryptocurrency mistake teaches us to be cautious and skeptical. You shared their error to warn us about connecting mobile wallets to websites and fake emails even from trusted sources. To avoid losing money users should keep wallets secure and check senders authenticity and beware of scams. Being vigilant is important in cryptocurrency. This experience shows that learning from mistakes helps others stay safe in complex crypto world. Thank you for sharing.

You know one thing about crypto is that each bull run has it own mistakes and they are unique but they are kind of familiar. If you look at the last bullrun, many people fell for the NFT frenzy and bought huge amount of NFTs and today, they are worth nothing in market, the funny thing is that these NFTs is that they are not having buyers, volume.

People bought many memes this bull run that has died doesn't have volume again, that's another lesson but the common thing I found about them is that they are bound by greed and if you reduce your greediness in crypto, you wouldn't fall for scams and lose huge amount of money.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on October 05, 2024, 07:24:34 PM
Even your best friend you have to be careful. Money is the root of sin, your friend can be tempted to do bad things to you as long as he knows that you have a lot of money. Especially if he knows that the money comes from crypto, people's thoughts if they know that is where your money comes from, they will look at you as rich. It is also possible that they will change their view of you. You better keep it private. Not only for your benefit but also for others.
I totally agree with you. The world has become very evil and dangerous and it's hard to find people you can trust your life and money with with them trying to exploit or take advantage of you. I'm not saying there aren't trustworthy people in the world anymore, there are lots of them but you'd never know because even people who are not, still pretend to be, and when you let your guard down, they strike you and sometimes you don't even know they're the ones who stroke you and you still consider them faithful. That's why the best way to avoid such situations is to better keep your mouth shut and never expose some sensitive information to others. The quieter you are, the safer you'll be.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: erus on October 06, 2024, 06:47:47 PM
~snip~
Right now, most people in the cryptocurrency industry are already aware of phishing and there are now many safeguard tools that can help us avoid this problem. The most important thing is to be always vigilant and to triple check the site URL you are logging in to make sure it is the legit one.
I also currently tend to double check every crypto-themed website so that I am more aware of every phishing. I want to just log in to altcoinstalks, I probably check the website more than 2x because I'm afraid of getting a phishing website.
But it seems like there are still many people out there who get phishing websites because they don't know or are not careful about the information provided by the crypto project. It all comes back to ourselves if we are already in the crypto circle. DWYOR is very necessary.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: |MINER| on October 06, 2024, 08:27:15 PM
There is one thing in common among all the major hacking in the crypto world and that is the first step of all hacking is phishing. And this phishing issue is being used by scammers from the beginning until this digital era. And in this digital age where phishing has become more serious because people easily fall into the trap of hackers.
And if you see it is a favorite way for hackers to hack. There is only one way to protect yourself from phishing and that is to verify enough before clicking on each link and if there is any doubt, to use different websites for checking malware first, I will prefer virus total from this point of view. Besides doing these things, using hardware wallet for fund holding.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: smartaction on October 07, 2024, 08:08:12 AM
There is one thing in common among all the major hacking in the crypto world and that is the first step of all hacking is phishing. And this phishing issue is being used by scammers from the beginning until this digital era. And in this digital age where phishing has become more serious because people easily fall into the trap of hackers.
And if you see it is a favorite way for hackers to hack. There is only one way to protect yourself from phishing and that is to verify enough before clicking on each link and if there is any doubt, to use different websites for checking malware first, I will prefer virus total from this point of view. Besides doing these things, using hardware wallet for fund holding.


Hackers use phishing links as a big weapon of hacking. There are some people who click on the links without looking at the links and become victims of hacking. We need to get rid of all these phishing links only then we will not be victims of any kind of hacking. As the days go by.  Hackers try to trap people by using many digital techniques. These are increasing day by day and we have to be careful to avoid them but sometimes we get hacked due to our own mistakes. When a person falls into the trap of hackers all his documents starting from personal  Everything will go under the control of the hacker.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: bayu7adi on October 07, 2024, 05:35:53 PM
I also currently tend to double check every crypto-themed website so that I am more aware of every phishing. I want to just log in to altcoinstalks, I probably check the website more than 2x because I'm afraid of getting a phishing website.
I always bookmark important sites that I often visit, such as the altcoinstalks forum... I always point my cursor to the bookmarks bar to open the forum (not typing it in google anymore)... I don't know whether this forum has ever been targeted for phishing or not, what is certain is that the method I use is quite safe for forums...

For other things related to money, I also double-check the URL and always activate the antiphishing feature if available.. not all websites have antiphishing features, so I am more vigilant on websites that cannot use the feature yet
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Agbe on October 07, 2024, 05:53:10 PM
I don't click links anyhow whenever I see them. I have to cross check them very well before clicking if not I would just delete it from the device. Even airdrops which people are using to receive cryptocurrencies, I don't advise people to involve though it pays when we meet the authentic ones but the ones that pays dust are more. Some people would be thinking that it would pay them so they can use it to build houses or buy car. Lolz. All that imaginations are disappointed many times. Yes we all know that there is money in the internet but be careful before they use us to make money again. Scammers are looking for whom to scam every day. Today too I almost fall for one but I was smart enough to detect the guy and I blocked him.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: |MINER| on October 07, 2024, 08:17:34 PM
Hackers use phishing links as a big weapon of hacking. There are some people who click on the links without looking at the links and become victims of hacking. We need to get rid of all these phishing links only then we will not be victims of any kind of hacking. As the days go by.  Hackers try to trap people by using many digital techniques. These are increasing day by day and we have to be careful to avoid them but sometimes we get hacked due to our own mistakes. When a person falls into the trap of hackers all his documents starting from personal  Everything will go under the control of the hacker.
You will be surprised to know that a holder holding bitcoins for more than 10 years lost his huge amount of bitcoins just for one click. I mean that one click compromised his wallet and later hackers easily transferred the bitcoins in their wallet. And the saddest thing is that he didn't use hardware wallet after all these years of holding. I think he easily fell into more traps because of this and he admitted this and later asked everyone else to use hardware wallet for holding.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: taufik123 on October 08, 2024, 08:48:35 PM
You will be surprised to know that a holder holding bitcoins for more than 10 years lost his huge amount of bitcoins just for one click. I mean that one click compromised his wallet and later hackers easily transferred the bitcoins in their wallet. And the saddest thing is that he didn't use hardware wallet after all these years of holding. I think he easily fell into more traps because of this and he admitted this and later asked everyone else to use hardware wallet for holding.
Because in the past there may not be a hardware wallet available and also the factor of their ignorance about security on Bitcoin wallets.
It would be very sad to lose Bitcoin that was held for more than 10 years, but some such cases may not always happen.

Some of them may be aware that security is paramount and they start securing Bitcoin in hardware wallets.
Now that scammers are also more sophisticated and many new modes are used, please everyone is vigilant and cares about the security of your personal wallet.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: vegasus on October 08, 2024, 11:21:30 PM
Because in the past there may not be a hardware wallet available and also the factor of their ignorance about security on Bitcoin wallets.
It would be very sad to lose Bitcoin that was held for more than 10 years, but some such cases may not always happen.
It is also possible that there is a factor of ignorance or carelessness, or maybe they do not understand that there is a phishing link like that that can endanger people who click on it. I really can't imagine being him. This is a bad and unlucky day for him and anyone who is hacked and a victim of phishing links.

Losing a little asset is quite painful, let alone a large amount of assets. This must be very painful, angry, upset, disappointed, and others mixed together. Who knows whether later they will be able to learn from all this or will actually be discouraged in relation to online assets.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Z-tight on October 08, 2024, 11:51:22 PM
I don't click links anyhow whenever I see them.
That is a very good step in protecting yourself from phishing attacks, i am still surprised that there are people out there who still click on random links. Not clicking on links is great, but the best way to protect yourself from phishing attacks is to store your funds in either an airgapped wallet or a hardware wallet, because anything online is prone to hacking.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: taufik123 on October 10, 2024, 09:31:43 PM
It is also possible that there is a factor of ignorance or carelessness, or maybe they do not understand that there is a phishing link like that that can endanger people who click on it. I really can't imagine being him. This is a bad and unlucky day for him and anyone who is hacked and a victim of phishing links.

Losing a little asset is quite painful, let alone a large amount of assets. This must be very painful, angry, upset, disappointed, and others mixed together. Who knows whether later they will be able to learn from all this or will actually be discouraged in relation to online assets.
Yes, maybe the ignorance factor on phishing links, and also he was careless and never learned that the internet is cruel and full of traps.
Never connect your wallet to an unrefutable site or check the Official site that is believed to be the real one, as many phishing links are almost identical to the original site.

Don't lose assets due to mistakes due to our lack of thoroughness or ignorance about phishing links, it is indeed very sad and makes someone depressed and stressed out thinking about it.
So be more careful and more thorough on everything related to personal wallets that contain your future assets.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: |MINER| on October 10, 2024, 09:44:54 PM
Because in the past there may not be a hardware wallet available and also the factor of their ignorance about security on Bitcoin wallets.
It would be very sad to lose Bitcoin that was held for more than 10 years, but some such cases may not always happen.

Some of them may be aware that security is paramount and they start securing Bitcoin in hardware wallets.
Now that scammers are also more sophisticated and many new modes are used, please everyone is vigilant and cares about the security of your personal wallet.
In fact, if you can't properly secure yourself, then no device in the world can give you security, no matter how good the hardware wallet is. I always try to separate the devices I use from those related to my work. And for personal use such as entertainment, all other browsing should always be done on a separate device..
Moreover, regular firmware updates of hardware wallets should be kept in mind because you can be a victim of phishing despite using hardware wallets. So the main thing is the awareness of us.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: lepbagong on October 11, 2024, 05:55:57 AM
I don't click links anyhow whenever I see them.
That is a very good step in protecting yourself from phishing attacks, i am still surprised that there are people out there who still click on random links. Not clicking on links is great, but the best way to protect yourself from phishing attacks is to store your funds in either an airgapped wallet or a hardware wallet, because anything online is prone to hacking.
The steps you suggest are very wise if you could have a hardware wallet, but of course, it is not easy to have one if you only collect from bounties, not from trading. Of course, the most important step is, as everyone also does, that does not, get used to opening links that we do not know and are not aware of because usually it is a scam that occurs or do not accept help from unknown people for anything asked.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: taufik123 on October 12, 2024, 10:45:09 PM
In fact, if you can't properly secure yourself, then no device in the world can give you security, no matter how good the hardware wallet is. I always try to separate the devices I use from those related to my work. And for personal use such as entertainment, all other browsing should always be done on a separate device..
Moreover, regular firmware updates of hardware wallets should be kept in mind because you can be a victim of phishing despite using hardware wallets. So the main thing is the awareness of us.
Yes, that's right as you said, no matter how good a hardware wallet is used if security is not a concern.
I also keep my hardware security up to date and store the seed phrase in a safe place and out of reach of others.

Separating the wallet from the online device that I use for entertainment and indeed it must be noted that the vulnerability of the online device can be the beginning of a hack because there is a lot of malware that can enter and some phishing links can be accessed, so be more vigilant and do regular security checks.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Z-tight on October 12, 2024, 11:42:17 PM
The steps you suggest are very wise if you could have a hardware wallet, but of course, it is not easy to have one if you only collect from bounties, not from trading.
Hardware wallets do not cost a fortune, but i understand your point, in order to buy a hardware wallet, you need to be holding at least an amount of money you cannot afford to lose. Take note that if you don't want to buy a hardware wallet, you can set up your own airgapped wallet using one of your old device.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: bayu7adi on October 16, 2024, 03:59:04 AM
Hardware wallets do not cost a fortune, but i understand your point, in order to buy a hardware wallet, you need to be holding at least an amount of money you cannot afford to lose. Take note that if you don't want to buy a hardware wallet, you can set up your own airgapped wallet using one of your old device.
Yes, air gapped wallet can be a solution if there is no free money to buy a trezor or other hardware wallet... it might be more convenient to use an unused smartphone, the most important thing is that there is a camera that can read QR Codes to sign transactions, it's easier.

I have planned to use an airgapped wallet, because it seems to have better security than having to store my large assets in a wallet that is connected to the internet almost every day... I think the risk level is safer for using an airgapped wallet than using Bluewallet on my main phone.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: |MINER| on October 16, 2024, 08:26:41 PM
Yes, that's right as you said, no matter how good a hardware wallet is used if security is not a concern.
I also keep my hardware security up to date and store the seed phrase in a safe place and out of reach of others.

Separating the wallet from the online device that I use for entertainment and indeed it must be noted that the vulnerability of the online device can be the beginning of a hack because there is a lot of malware that can enter and some phishing links can be accessed, so be more vigilant and do regular security checks.
Good to know that you obey the important process to secure your crypto assets.
But most of us think that only crypto store in hardware wallet means it is safe but actually we have to be safe first. Although the hardware wallet is the safest crypto store, the hardware wallet should not be exposed to any device that may have vulnerabilities. Because it is not unusual to compromise the private key of the hardware wallet by injecting malware from the vulnerability device.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: lepbagong on October 18, 2024, 03:10:29 AM
Yes, that's right as you said, no matter how good a hardware wallet is used if security is not a concern.
I also keep my hardware security up to date and store the seed phrase in a safe place and out of reach of others.

Separating the wallet from the online device that I use for entertainment and indeed it must be noted that the vulnerability of the online device can be the beginning of a hack because there is a lot of malware that can enter and some phishing links can be accessed, so be more vigilant and do regular security checks.
Good to know that you obey the important process to secure your crypto assets.
But most of us think that only crypto store in hardware wallet means it is safe but actually we have to be safe first. Although the hardware wallet is the safest crypto store, the hardware wallet should not be exposed to any device that may have vulnerabilities. Because it is not unusual to compromise the private key of the hardware wallet by injecting malware from the vulnerability device.
In my mind, if you have used a hardware wallet, then the security that we fear can be guaranteed, and you are not afraid of actions that might be taken to the hardware wallet.
Unknownly, we also have to pay attention to not being able to connect to things we don't want, so that the hard wallet can be affected. So always keep protecting so that no malware and others can enter our hardware wallet. In principle, it is to always keep something from things that we might not want to happen.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on October 18, 2024, 07:12:10 AM
You will be surprised to know that a holder holding bitcoins for more than 10 years lost his huge amount of bitcoins just for one click. I mean that one click compromised his wallet and later hackers easily transferred the bitcoins in their wallet. And the saddest thing is that he didn't use hardware wallet after all these years of holding. I think he easily fell into more traps because of this and he admitted this and later asked everyone else to use hardware wallet for holding.
What most people fail to realize is the fact that the safety of one’s investment is just as important as the investment itself (if not more than) because you can one can lose several years of Bitcoin accumulation and HODLing to criminals, just as you’ve accurately illustrated with your short story. Sadly this is what happens to people who are not security conscious or prioritize other things over security. Yes, The Hardware or Offline Wallet remains the best option for HODLing as it’ll completely protect your assets from the claws of hackers and scammers.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Hatchy on October 18, 2024, 10:08:20 AM
Right now, most people in the cryptocurrency industry are already aware of phishing and there are now many safeguard tools that can help us avoid this problem. The most important thing is to be always vigilant and to triple check the site URL you are logging in to make sure it is the legit one.
True mate. Alot of newbies fell for phishing attacks back in the days as it wasn't too famous and not everyone knew much about it. I've seen so many of these false emails sent to my me but most times they are being blocked by my spam box. Unfortunately they will still manage to get their hands on some fragile users who get scared easily on seeing such mails. Now though. Alot of people are much aware of it and it's most likely reduces the rate at which people fall for phishing attacks.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Baofeng on October 18, 2024, 10:16:52 AM
The steps you suggest are very wise if you could have a hardware wallet, but of course, it is not easy to have one if you only collect from bounties, not from trading.
Hardware wallets do not cost a fortune, but i understand your point, in order to buy a hardware wallet, you need to be holding at least an amount of money you cannot afford to lose. Take note that if you don't want to buy a hardware wallet, you can set up your own airgapped wallet using one of your old device.

Airgapped wallet though might be too technical for some of us, that's why it's really advisable to at least have a hardware wallet, regardless if you are holding small or big amounts. Average joe should get that kind of experienced in my opinion.

As for the phishing, it will remain with us unfortunately. This criminals are going to evolved and now with the new technology of AI, its going to very hard for us. But as long as we have the right education and then we should verify first, I think we will be safe and not fall for this phishing links.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on October 18, 2024, 10:54:21 AM

As for the phishing, it will remain with us unfortunately. This criminals are going to evolved and now with the new technology of AI, its going to very hard for us. But as long as we have the right education and then we should verify first, I think we will be safe and not fall for this phishing links.
Very true
The least we can do is try as much as we Can to stay safe by staying updated and informed on the latest phishing techniques. Like we already know, these people have been around for decades now and we can attest to the fact that the techniques they used in the past is no longer the same as the ones that are in play today as we know it, they’ve really evolved and will continue to do so and it’ll be impossible to permanently eradicate scams in the society because new methods will always come in as the old ones leaves. Although it’s not entirely possible to always outsmart or be ahead of them but at least we can try and that’s enough.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: bayu7adi on October 18, 2024, 03:20:15 PM
The least we can do is try as much as we Can to stay safe by staying updated and informed on the latest phishing techniques. Like we already know, these people have been around for decades now and we can attest to the fact that the techniques they used in the past is no longer the same as the ones that are in play today as we know it, they’ve really evolved and will continue to do so and it’ll be impossible to permanently eradicate scams in the society because new methods will always come in as the old ones leaves. Although it’s not entirely possible to always outsmart or be ahead of them but at least we can try and that’s enough.
sometimes phishing is also done with several combinations, such as using the mobile phone method and combined with page forgery... so the victim is led to use two old methods... for those who have never known this method, it is very easy to be fooled and lose, but for those who already understand, I am sure this can be overcome...

It would be good if we work together with our family or closest friends to always report strange things to be reviewed with close relatives... this can minimize the occurrence of fraud.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on October 18, 2024, 07:18:34 PM
sometimes phishing is also done with several combinations, such as using the mobile phone method and combined with page forgery... so the victim is led to use two old methods... for those who have never known this method, it is very easy to be fooled and lose, but for those who already understand, I am sure this can be overcome...

It would be good if we work together with our family or closest friends to always report strange things to be reviewed with close relatives... this can minimize the occurrence of fraud.
By page forgery, do you mean duplication of pages or websites to make it look like it’s the real one? I think this one is very common. I have a friend who complained bitterly to me about having his bank account swept clean right after he clicked a link he thought would lead him to a page where he would download free movies online, and after he clicked the link, the scammers was able to remotely access his phone and was able to steal his personal information, including his saved passwords, emails, social media messages and contents, and every other useful and confidential messages. They even went as far as hacking all his social media accounts, his PayPal and other things remotely.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: |MINER| on October 18, 2024, 10:24:33 PM
What most people fail to realize is the fact that the safety of one’s investment is just as important as the investment itself (if not more than) because you can one can lose several years of Bitcoin accumulation and HODLing to criminals, just as you’ve accurately illustrated with your short story. Sadly this is what happens to people who are not security conscious or prioritize other things over security. Yes, The Hardware or Offline Wallet remains the best option for HODLing as it’ll completely protect your assets from the claws of hackers and scammers.
I will agree with you and also say that most of us are always too busy thinking about not losing my investment and in this rush we often forget that the more important thing is that the investment we make is worth it Completely secure. And due to not keeping our funds in any source of security in this rush of busyness, we lose our held funds year after year.
Moreover, I think most of the time we lose our crypto fund due to phishing because of a mistake and that mistake is that we sometimes visit unsafe websites while browsing, neglecting to recognize the phishing, and finally it turns out that it is because of that neglect. We fall victim to that phishing.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: taufik123 on October 18, 2024, 10:37:15 PM
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It would be good if we work together with our family or closest friends to always report strange things to be reviewed with close relatives... this can minimize the occurrence of fraud.
Both urge to be aware of all types of scams and phishing that have often occurred lately.
Such as in phishing incidents that use the method of invitation applications, Submissions, and others via Whatsapp.

There are many victims who are affected by such malware and end up stealing OTP codes for all sorts of applications used such as banking applications, E-commerce and other important applications.

Therefore, it is necessary to be vigilant and warn the people around them not to be trapped in such a mode and must be more vigilant.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on October 19, 2024, 02:00:01 PM
I will agree with you and also say that most of us are always too busy thinking about not losing my investment and in this rush we often forget that the more important thing is that the investment we make is worth it Completely secure. And due to not keeping our funds in any source of security in this rush of busyness, we lose our held funds year after year.
Moreover, I think most of the time we lose our crypto fund due to phishing because of a mistake and that mistake is that we sometimes visit unsafe websites while browsing, neglecting to recognize the phishing, and finally it turns out that it is because of that neglect. We fall victim to that phishing.
People in the crypto sphere often undermine the importance of security and safety of their funds while prioritizing profit and losses, and this is often very common amongst newbies. Some even end up storing their funds in unsafe wallets due to ignorance and negligence. Now we have duplicated wallets and if you’re not very observant, you may not even notice that it’s a duplicate or clone even as someone who have been around the crypto space for a while and you end up sending in or storing your funds in there, only to lose it all to one scammer.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: LogitechMouse on October 19, 2024, 03:34:38 PM
Right now, most people in the cryptocurrency industry are already aware of phishing and there are now many safeguard tools that can help us avoid this problem. The most important thing is to be always vigilant and to triple check the site URL you are logging in to make sure it is the legit one.
True mate. Alot of newbies fell for phishing attacks back in the days as it wasn't too famous and not everyone knew much about it. I've seen so many of these false emails sent to my me but most times they are being blocked by my spam box. Unfortunately they will still manage to get their hands on some fragile users who get scared easily on seeing such mails. Now though. Alot of people are much aware of it and it's most likely reduces the rate at which people fall for phishing attacks.
Even now that phishing became more popular, there are still newbies that are falling into it because... they're newbies, and they don't know what's the legit website and phishing website. As a newbie, they still don't have the knowledge to determine which are scams and which are not.

Like I always say, bookmarking the legit websites of the projects that you're following for me would be the best thing to do. This will prevent you from falling from scammers that are scamming you through phishing. TBH, this has been the one scammers are using for years, and it still works until now because there are new investors coming on a daily basis. New investors, new prey for these scammers. Like what you said, always be vigilant and triple-check the links that you're browsing.

I almost fell to these phishing attacks back when I was a newbie, but it's good that I know which are scams and which are not at that time so for newbies, continue learning.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: |MINER| on October 19, 2024, 09:47:04 PM
I will agree with you and also say that most of us are always too busy thinking about not losing my investment and in this rush we often forget that the more important thing is that the investment we make is worth it Completely secure. And due to not keeping our funds in any source of security in this rush of busyness, we lose our held funds year after year.
Moreover, I think most of the time we lose our crypto fund due to phishing because of a mistake and that mistake is that we sometimes visit unsafe websites while browsing, neglecting to recognize the phishing, and finally it turns out that it is because of that neglect. We fall victim to that phishing.
People in the crypto sphere often undermine the importance of security and safety of their funds while prioritizing profit and losses, and this is often very common amongst newbies. Some even end up storing their funds in unsafe wallets due to ignorance and negligence. Now we have duplicated wallets and if you’re not very observant, you may not even notice that it’s a duplicate or clone even as someone who have been around the crypto space for a while and you end up sending in or storing your funds in there, only to lose it all to one scammer.
You are right that most of the times we see these things in the case of a newbie but there are many long term holders who have kept their 10 years holding bitcoin hot wallet and lost those 10 years holding bitcoins due to phishing.
Later he was seen regretting this and posted on social media and he asked others who are long term holders to be careful and advised to use cold wallet. So it appears that the issues are not only seen among newbies but sometimes even among Bitcoin holders with many years of experience.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: _act_ on October 19, 2024, 10:45:43 PM
If we are informed, things will not be like this, we are going to be aware of the trends which the scammers were using to deceive other users of their asset, we cant be able to avoid what we don't know, this makes it a vital part for us to always remain updated about what is going on in the crypto circle, there are new developments and tactics as well to use in helping us detect for this.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on October 20, 2024, 01:04:56 PM
You are right that most of the times we see these things in the case of a newbie but there are many long term holders who have kept their 10 years holding bitcoin hot wallet and lost those 10 years holding bitcoins due to phishing.
Later he was seen regretting this and posted on social media and he asked others who are long term holders to be careful and advised to use cold wallet. So it appears that the issues are not only seen among newbies but sometimes even among Bitcoin holders with many years of experience.
There are many ways newbies can lose their assets, but when it comes to phishing scams, it’s not just newbies that should be cautious but also long term holders with many years of experience, because no one is above being phished. Everyday , both newbies and experienced people fall victim of phishing and it’s not about how careful you are or how experienced you are because everyday, new methods and techniques of phishing are introduced, and people are being victimized, we can only use the experience of their victims to stay safe and pray we don’t fall into their traps.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: |MINER| on October 20, 2024, 10:13:07 PM
There are many ways newbies can lose their assets, but when it comes to phishing scams, it’s not just newbies that should be cautious but also long term holders with many years of experience, because no one is above being phished. Everyday , both newbies and experienced people fall victim of phishing and it’s not about how careful you are or how experienced you are because everyday, new methods and techniques of phishing are introduced, and people are being victimized, we can only use the experience of their victims to stay safe and pray we don’t fall into their traps.
So the bottom line is that no one from newbie to pro experience person is completely free from phishing. So we always have to maintain our own security and at the same time we have to refrain from those unsafe browsing that can inject malware to our devices.
And also I want to say one more thing that we should be concerned about the security of our devices just as much as we are concerned about our loss and profit. And of course you need to make your device more powerful by using reliable anti-malware tools.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on October 21, 2024, 09:10:21 AM
So the bottom line is that no one from newbie to pro experience person is completely free from phishing. So we always have to maintain our own security and at the same time we have to refrain from those unsafe browsing that can inject malware to our devices.
And also I want to say one more thing that we should be concerned about the security of our devices just as much as we are concerned about our loss and profit. And of course you need to make your device more powerful by using reliable anti-malware tools.
It can also be helpful if we can avoid storing sensitive information on our devices or online, like on our emails of social media accounts, because this is the first place these hackers check when they gain access to your devices, it’s crucial to expect and prepare for these moments if they eventually come because they are inevitable and can happen to anyone regardless of your device’s security, so it’ll be more safer for everyone to store certain information offline.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: |MINER| on October 21, 2024, 10:54:23 AM
It can also be helpful if we can avoid storing sensitive information on our devices or online, like on our emails of social media accounts, because this is the first place these hackers check when they gain access to your devices, it’s crucial to expect and prepare for these moments if they eventually come because they are inevitable and can happen to anyone regardless of your device’s security, so it’ll be more safer for everyone to store certain information offline.
What I think is best is to keep the devices divided such that the device you use only for entertainment should not include any financial related or working related data or any such work do on that device. I myself currently do all financial and working related work on my laptop and I have a PC at home where I do all my entertainment like gaming to watching movies or browsing. This keeps my work private from my local friends or relative members and not just from hackers.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on October 21, 2024, 09:47:33 PM
What I think is best is to keep the devices divided such that the device you use only for entertainment should not include any financial related or working related data or any such work do on that device. I myself currently do all financial and working related work on my laptop and I have a PC at home where I do all my entertainment like gaming to watching movies or browsing. This keeps my work private from my local friends or relative members and not just from hackers.
That’s a nice idea, but still, you need to know that this can only minimize the chances of falling into one of these phishing scams and not to completely avoid it. Even with the device you set aside only for financial activities, there’s still every tendency of falling victim of those scams if you feel too safe or protected and let your guard down. Whether you’re using multiple devices or just one device for all you activities, the best thing to do is just to try as much as possible to stay safe and avoid suspicious activities or sites online.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: |MINER| on October 23, 2024, 08:51:25 PM
That’s a nice idea, but still, you need to know that this can only minimize the chances of falling into one of these phishing scams and not to completely avoid it. Even with the device you set aside only for financial activities, there’s still every tendency of falling victim of those scams if you feel too safe or protected and let your guard down. Whether you’re using multiple devices or just one device for all you activities, the best thing to do is just to try as much as possible to stay safe and avoid suspicious activities or sites online.
Each device or application only minimizes the possibility of you being phishing or hacked or getting scammed. No one will tell you that we will give you a hundred percent guarantee even if you download a cracked file or a file with malware in front of a phishing link. So the privacy and security of your device is completely in your own hands.
And what I have said is that only the third party or any third person can access your data. I am personally benefiting by keeping devices separate from my working social media and entertainment social media. It provides me top level security. Because I do not connect these two devices.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Gurujebs on October 23, 2024, 09:00:19 PM
Each device or application only minimizes the possibility of you being phishing or hacked or getting scammed. No one will tell you that we will give you a hundred percent guarantee even if you download a cracked file or a file with malware in front of a phishing link. So the privacy and security of your device is completely in your own hands.
And what I have said is that only the third party or any third person can access your data. I am personally benefiting by keeping devices separate from my working social media and entertainment social media. It provides me top level security. Because I do not connect these two devices.

Cracked files are one of the most dangerous applications anyone would try to install on their device. They may be free but because they have been manipulated to avoid the normal process, it will be hard to know if you are downloading a safe applications or not. So the best is to go for anything that has not been tempered.

However, in all solutions that one need in crypto space is that just avoid puting your money into a device that is connected to the internet, just buy a hardware wallet, you don't have to worry about downloading wrong things on your personal computer.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on October 24, 2024, 04:30:15 AM
Each device or application only minimizes the possibility of you being phishing or hacked or getting scammed. No one will tell you that we will give you a hundred percent guarantee even if you download a cracked file or a file with malware in front of a phishing link. So the privacy and security of your device is completely in your own hands.
And what I have said is that only the third party or any third person can access your data. I am personally benefiting by keeping devices separate from my working social media and entertainment social media. It provides me top level security. Because I do not connect these two devices.
How about in situations you’ll need to use your working device to look up a few work related stuffs online, would you avoid using it and maybe just use your other device that’s meant for entertainment? I’m not really against the idea of using multiple devices for both work and entertainment. I’m just saying that this method may not completely guarantee your safety as long as you can still use the both devices to access the internet with an unsecured connection, you can still end up being phished.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: |MINER| on October 24, 2024, 09:38:24 PM
How about in situations you’ll need to use your working device to look up a few work related stuffs online, would you avoid using it and maybe just use your other device that’s meant for entertainment? I’m not really against the idea of using multiple devices for both work and entertainment. I’m just saying that this method may not completely guarantee your safety as long as you can still use the both devices to access the internet with an unsecured connection, you can still end up being phished.
Look. I am using four devices one laptop and one desktop and two mobiles. The laptop I am using for my work and the desktop I am using for my entertainment purpose. And the way I have setup them I can use them separately with out having connecting them. And I always try to not browse a  single unnecessary site in my working laptop and try to not using my desktop for working. That's how I can maintain them and because I use my laptop for working I can also use it when I am out of my home. I have two phone for the same reason one have all the email and exchanger and one have the social medias.
Anyway, you don't have to repeated that event then these steps don't guaranteed the security because I have already mean in my previous post that security it all your hand suppose you did separate your devices but you also do the unsafe browsing on those devices then how they will make sure you security's guaranteed.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: lepbagong on October 25, 2024, 04:10:49 AM
Each device or application only minimizes the possibility of you being phishing or hacked or getting scammed. No one will tell you that we will give you a hundred percent guarantee even if you download a cracked file or a file with malware in front of a phishing link. So the privacy and security of your device is completely in your own hands.
And what I have said is that only the third party or any third person can access your data. I am personally benefiting by keeping devices separate from my working social media and entertainment social media. It provides me top level security. Because I do not connect these two devices.
Cracked files are one of the most dangerous applications anyone would try to install on their device. They may be free but because they have been manipulated to avoid the normal process, it will be hard to know if you are downloading a safe applications or not. So the best is to go for anything that has not been tempered.

However, in all solutions that one need in crypto space is that just avoid puting your money into a device that is connected to the internet, just buy a hardware wallet, you don't have to worry about downloading wrong things on your personal computer.
The solution you said by using hardware is certainly very good if we are trading and investing quite a lot, but if you only want to accommodate the results of bounties and airdrops, it seems that your suggestion is too expensive to do.
Actually, all wallets have had good protection. That's just how users can use them according to the existing rules, so that they cannot be hacked by others.
The biggest hack is the fault of the user who is willing to accept any unknown letter link and click and follow the instructions told, which is actually a scam. If you do it in a good way and are not careless, the existing wallet is sufficient to be used.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Jating on October 25, 2024, 04:42:52 AM
Each device or application only minimizes the possibility of you being phishing or hacked or getting scammed. No one will tell you that we will give you a hundred percent guarantee even if you download a cracked file or a file with malware in front of a phishing link. So the privacy and security of your device is completely in your own hands.
And what I have said is that only the third party or any third person can access your data. I am personally benefiting by keeping devices separate from my working social media and entertainment social media. It provides me top level security. Because I do not connect these two devices.
How about in situations you’ll need to use your working device to look up a few work related stuffs online, would you avoid using it and maybe just use your other device that’s meant for entertainment? I’m not really against the idea of using multiple devices for both work and entertainment. I’m just saying that this method may not completely guarantee your safety as long as you can still use the both devices to access the internet with an unsecured connection, you can still end up being phished.

Well if you have like thousands of crypto, it could be better if you have a hardware wallet or totally a different machine for you work. For me that could be the likely set up that I have as I separated things just to be sure. I have a Macbook with my crypto and other online stuff that is very important for me.

Then another one for my daily used or even for my kids to used to when they wanted to. So I guess to each its own, but it is very important that we should have different laptop at least for me so that I will feel safe.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on October 25, 2024, 11:59:29 PM

Well if you have like thousands of crypto, it could be better if you have a hardware wallet or totally a different machine for you work. For me that could be the likely set up that I have as I separated things just to be sure. I have a Macbook with my crypto and other online stuff that is very important for me.

Then another one for my daily used or even for my kids to used to when they wanted to. So I guess to each its own, but it is very important that we should have different laptop at least for me so that I will feel safe.
I was never and still not against the idea of having multiple  devices for your multiple online activities, even I have multiple devices too which I use for my various activities, but that doesn’t mean I should let my guard down and feel overly safe. That’s the only point I’m trying to make. Yes having multiple accounts can very much indeed minimize the risk of falling into a phishing scam since you wouldn’t have to often use your device containing your confidential information for your everyday activity.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: |MINER| on October 27, 2024, 09:12:04 PM
I was never and still not against the idea of having multiple  devices for your multiple online activities, even I have multiple devices too which I use for my various activities, but that doesn’t mean I should let my guard down and feel overly safe. That’s the only point I’m trying to make. Yes having multiple accounts can very much indeed minimize the risk of falling into a phishing scam since you wouldn’t have to often use your device containing your confidential information for your everyday activity.
Now I think we should be stop about posting this topic because I am repeating the same think again and again and you are also repeating the same thing again and again.
And if we clearly look in my post I have both mention to that even if we use multiple devices our device can be on risk because of just our unsafe browsing. Main security is on our hand and you are also saying the same thing is having multiple device will minimize the risk but it won't give you 100% guranteed.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Publictalk792 on October 28, 2024, 02:50:07 AM
The solution you said by using hardware is certainly very good if we are trading and investing quite a lot, but if you only want to accommodate the results of bounties and airdrops, it seems that your suggestion is too expensive to do.
Actually, all wallets have had good protection. That's just how users can use them according to the existing rules, so that they cannot be hacked by others.
The biggest hack is the fault of the user who is willing to accept any unknown letter link and click and follow the instructions told, which is actually a scam. If you do it in a good way and are not careless, the existing wallet is sufficient to be used.
While hardware solutions are perfect for people who buy and sell a lot they might not be needed for managing bounty and airdrop rewards. Regular wallets already provide strong protection if used properly and choosing good one. Biggest problem is when users make mistakes like clicking on suspicious links or following instructions from unknown people. This is usually how hacking happens. To stay safe users should be careful and follow rules. If they do their existing wallets will be secure.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on October 28, 2024, 09:20:06 AM
Now I think we should be stop about posting this topic because I am repeating the same think again and again and you are also repeating the same thing again and again.
And if we clearly look in my post I have both mention to that even if we use multiple devices our device can be on risk because of just our unsafe browsing. Main security is on our hand and you are also saying the same thing is having multiple device will minimize the risk but it won't give you 100% guranteed.
The only point I’m constantly repeating myself isn’t because of you but for the sake of those who are misunderstanding my point, i think some people are mistaking my point by thinking I’m against the idea of using multiple devices, and I’m simply just clearing the air. I’m fully aware of what you said and your point has been well noted, but I don’t think mine was well noted (by others) perhaps due to my choice of words, I don’t know. But you’re right, there’s absolutely no point for these vain repetitions.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: lepbagong on November 01, 2024, 12:03:10 AM
The solution you said by using hardware is certainly very good if we are trading and investing quite a lot, but if you only want to accommodate the results of bounties and airdrops, it seems that your suggestion is too expensive to do.
Actually, all wallets have had good protection. That's just how users can use them according to the existing rules, so that they cannot be hacked by others.
The biggest hack is the fault of the user who is willing to accept any unknown letter link and click and follow the instructions told, which is actually a scam. If you do it in a good way and are not careless, the existing wallet is sufficient to be used.
While hardware solutions are perfect for people who buy and sell a lot they might not be needed for managing bounty and airdrop rewards. Regular wallets already provide strong protection if used properly and choosing good one. Biggest problem is when users make mistakes like clicking on suspicious links or following instructions from unknown people. This is usually how hacking happens. To stay safe users should be careful and follow rules. If they do their existing wallets will be secure.
I agree with you, it all depends on how we can keep our wallets from being stolen by fraudsters, Because in my opinion, actually, regular wallets that already exist are quite well protected, but all become meaningless because of mistakes we make ourselves.
Undestimating anything that can be directly connected to the wallet we have must be avoided. There are many ways for fraudsters to enter our wallets, but all can be protected by not making mistakes, so that fraudsters can open our wallets, avoid any links that we don't know. we don't accept any help from those who can help us with our difficulties, that's all we can do, then our wallets will be safe.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Jating on November 01, 2024, 04:33:40 AM

Well if you have like thousands of crypto, it could be better if you have a hardware wallet or totally a different machine for you work. For me that could be the likely set up that I have as I separated things just to be sure. I have a Macbook with my crypto and other online stuff that is very important for me.

Then another one for my daily used or even for my kids to used to when they wanted to. So I guess to each its own, but it is very important that we should have different laptop at least for me so that I will feel safe.
I was never and still not against the idea of having multiple  devices for your multiple online activities, even I have multiple devices too which I use for my various activities, but that doesn’t mean I should let my guard down and feel overly safe. That’s the only point I’m trying to make. Yes having multiple accounts can very much indeed minimize the risk of falling into a phishing scam since you wouldn’t have to often use your device containing your confidential information for your everyday activity.

Of course, we should let our guard down at anytime, not just because we uses separate machine mean that we will be lax using other pc or laptop. So it's really good to know and practice security hygiene, no matter what, it could be thru phishing or even sms, scammers are everywhere now, specially that we are in a bull run or fast approaching holiday seasons.

So we should really be on the guard every time. I remember my niece, who unfortunately, click a link, until it's too late that she realized that it was a phishing link. So this criminals was able to take control of her account. Luckily, there are no money or no history of her credit card, otherwise, it could be worst for her. So what's more if there are crypto in her machine.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: lepbagong on November 07, 2024, 01:04:42 AM

Well if you have like thousands of crypto, it could be better if you have a hardware wallet or totally a different machine for you work. For me that could be the likely set up that I have as I separated things just to be sure. I have a Macbook with my crypto and other online stuff that is very important for me.

Then another one for my daily used or even for my kids to used to when they wanted to. So I guess to each its own, but it is very important that we should have different laptop at least for me so that I will feel safe.
I was never and still not against the idea of having multiple  devices for your multiple online activities, even I have multiple devices too which I use for my various activities, but that doesn’t mean I should let my guard down and feel overly safe. That’s the only point I’m trying to make. Yes having multiple accounts can very much indeed minimize the risk of falling into a phishing scam since you wouldn’t have to often use your device containing your confidential information for your everyday activity.
Of course, we should let our guard down at anytime, not just because we uses separate machine mean that we will be lax using other pc or laptop. So it's really good to know and practice security hygiene, no matter what, it could be thru phishing or even sms, scammers are everywhere now, specially that we are in a bull run or fast approaching holiday seasons.

So we should really be on the guard every time. I remember my niece, who unfortunately, click a link, until it's too late that she realized that it was a phishing link. So this criminals was able to take control of her account. Luckily, there are no money or no history of her credit card, otherwise, it could be worst for her. So what's more if there are crypto in her machine.
The main problem why we can fall into the trap of fraudsters is because of the mistakes we make ourselves and the cleverness of the fraudsters to be able to deceive everyone. We will indeed find it difficult not to be vigilant, because the fraudsters can use their intelligence to be able to trap us in their traps. Whatever method we do by using a separate device will not guarantee that we will not be trapped by fraudsters. What needs to be done is not to click on any links from all the social media that claim to be from the admin or anything that we don't know. We will definitely be safe. They enter through social media that continue to develop and we often follow them.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on November 07, 2024, 11:55:22 AM
The main problem why we can fall into the trap of fraudsters is because of the mistakes we make ourselves and the cleverness of the fraudsters to be able to deceive everyone. We will indeed find it difficult not to be vigilant, because the fraudsters can use their intelligence to be able to trap us in their traps. Whatever method we do by using a separate device will not guarantee that we will not be trapped by fraudsters. What needs to be done is not to click on any links from all the social media that claim to be from the admin or anything that we don't know. We will definitely be safe. They enter through social media that continue to develop and we often follow them.
But do you realize that you can still fall victim of phishing attacks or any other scam without necessarily having to click on shady links or visiting shady sites? Yes, there are several ways that scammed and fraudsters can manipulate and maneuver their way into your privacy and steal your funds or sensitive information. The truth remains that you may just not be smart enough to outsmart them, there are those scam attempts that you can actually avoid either because you’ve heard or seen it because or even experienced it before and there are still those that you’re not familiar with.
Everyday around the world, different people get scammed and it’s not all of the victims that are ignorant or not careful enough.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Jating on November 09, 2024, 08:06:24 AM

Well if you have like thousands of crypto, it could be better if you have a hardware wallet or totally a different machine for you work. For me that could be the likely set up that I have as I separated things just to be sure. I have a Macbook with my crypto and other online stuff that is very important for me.

Then another one for my daily used or even for my kids to used to when they wanted to. So I guess to each its own, but it is very important that we should have different laptop at least for me so that I will feel safe.
I was never and still not against the idea of having multiple  devices for your multiple online activities, even I have multiple devices too which I use for my various activities, but that doesn’t mean I should let my guard down and feel overly safe. That’s the only point I’m trying to make. Yes having multiple accounts can very much indeed minimize the risk of falling into a phishing scam since you wouldn’t have to often use your device containing your confidential information for your everyday activity.
Of course, we should let our guard down at anytime, not just because we uses separate machine mean that we will be lax using other pc or laptop. So it's really good to know and practice security hygiene, no matter what, it could be thru phishing or even sms, scammers are everywhere now, specially that we are in a bull run or fast approaching holiday seasons.

So we should really be on the guard every time. I remember my niece, who unfortunately, click a link, until it's too late that she realized that it was a phishing link. So this criminals was able to take control of her account. Luckily, there are no money or no history of her credit card, otherwise, it could be worst for her. So what's more if there are crypto in her machine.
The main problem why we can fall into the trap of fraudsters is because of the mistakes we make ourselves and the cleverness of the fraudsters to be able to deceive everyone. We will indeed find it difficult not to be vigilant, because the fraudsters can use their intelligence to be able to trap us in their traps. Whatever method we do by using a separate device will not guarantee that we will not be trapped by fraudsters. What needs to be done is not to click on any links from all the social media that claim to be from the admin or anything that we don't know. We will definitely be safe. They enter through social media that continue to develop and we often follow them.

It will lessen the chance of this fraudsters to attack us though. And because or machine that we used often are separated from that of our crypto used, then it's going to be very hard for them to penetrate us as our crypto are not going to be exposed. It's different if they attack us thru social media, and if we are wise enough, again, our social media accounts might not be connected to our crypto. So that's why we should be always be vigilant but adding a level of security as well is one of a good practice that we should make.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on November 09, 2024, 02:35:20 PM
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Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on November 09, 2024, 02:38:24 PM

It will lessen the chance of this fraudsters to attack us though. And because or machine that we used often are separated from that of our crypto used, then it's going to be very hard for them to penetrate us as our crypto are not going to be exposed. It's different if they attack us thru social media, and if we are wise enough, again, our social media accounts might not be connected to our crypto. So that's why we should be always be vigilant but adding a level of security as well is one of a good practice that we should make.
I like the last part of your post, the part about being vigilant at all time and also adding an extra layer of protection and safety to our assets by completely separating our business with pleasure. While this may not really secure us a 100% at least it gives us an extra layer of security and can make it pretty difficult for the scammers to penetrate our funds. And like I said before, in order to be completely safe, you gotta consider keeping your assets on a hardware wallet, at least this way you’re sure that your assets are stored completely offline and even if they penetrate your device, there’ll still be no way to gain access to your funds.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: lepbagong on November 15, 2024, 01:34:38 AM

Well if you have like thousands of crypto, it could be better if you have a hardware wallet or totally a different machine for you work. For me that could be the likely set up that I have as I separated things just to be sure. I have a Macbook with my crypto and other online stuff that is very important for me.

Then another one for my daily used or even for my kids to used to when they wanted to. So I guess to each its own, but it is very important that we should have different laptop at least for me so that I will feel safe.
I was never and still not against the idea of having multiple  devices for your multiple online activities, even I have multiple devices too which I use for my various activities, but that doesn’t mean I should let my guard down and feel overly safe. That’s the only point I’m trying to make. Yes having multiple accounts can very much indeed minimize the risk of falling into a phishing scam since you wouldn’t have to often use your device containing your confidential information for your everyday activity.
Of course, we should let our guard down at anytime, not just because we uses separate machine mean that we will be lax using other pc or laptop. So it's really good to know and practice security hygiene, no matter what, it could be thru phishing or even sms, scammers are everywhere now, specially that we are in a bull run or fast approaching holiday seasons.

So we should really be on the guard every time. I remember my niece, who unfortunately, click a link, until it's too late that she realized that it was a phishing link. So this criminals was able to take control of her account. Luckily, there are no money or no history of her credit card, otherwise, it could be worst for her. So what's more if there are crypto in her machine.
The main problem why we can fall into the trap of fraudsters is because of the mistakes we make ourselves and the cleverness of the fraudsters to be able to deceive everyone. We will indeed find it difficult not to be vigilant, because the fraudsters can use their intelligence to be able to trap us in their traps. Whatever method we do by using a separate device will not guarantee that we will not be trapped by fraudsters. What needs to be done is not to click on any links from all the social media that claim to be from the admin or anything that we don't know. We will definitely be safe. They enter through social media that continue to develop and we often follow them.
It will lessen the chance of this fraudsters to attack us though. And because or machine that we used often are separated from that of our crypto used, then it's going to be very hard for them to penetrate us as our crypto are not going to be exposed. It's different if they attack us thru social media, and if we are wise enough, again, our social media accounts might not be connected to our crypto. So that's why we should be always be vigilant but adding a level of security as well is one of a good practice that we should make.
I think you are right if we do it with a different network, it can be ascertained that it will be safe, but they always do it through social media, which are often used by many people, so that the possibility of being able to get people who are cheated is very fast. Besides, it is indeed attempted that every social media we have is as far as possible not connected to our crypto network. But they are able to trick us through social media so that we accidentally give our crypto network to be hacked. During this time they will do everything to achieve their goals, for that, actually, never click on links given by people we don't know when we are opening our crypto network.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on November 15, 2024, 04:31:47 AM
I think you are right if we do it with a different network, it can be ascertained that it will be safe, but they always do it through social media, which are often used by many people, so that the possibility of being able to get people who are cheated is very fast. Besides, it is indeed attempted that every social media we have is as far as possible not connected to our crypto network. But they are able to trick us through social media so that we accidentally give our crypto network to be hacked. During this time they will do everything to achieve their goals, for that, actually, never click on links given by people we don't know when we are opening our crypto network.
Hackers and fraudsters have been around for as long as we can remember and I don’t think they’ll be going anywhere anytime soon because we can’t really beat them at their own game, the best strategy will always be to play the defensive game, yeah, you gotta try as much as you can to protect your funds. Also, I’ve understood that the reason why some people fall into some scam attempts is simply because of greed. I see no reason why someone would tell you to invest a portion of your coins and get over double or triple in matter of house or days, I know there are platforms that makes this possible but there are so many obvious scams out there that portray to offer the same services too, and if you can conduct a thorough investigation and research, you’ll be able to know it’s obviously a scam.

But some, due to the high profit promised, they allow their greed control them and they just put all of their funds into the hands of the scammers and they just make away with their money.
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: DYING_S0UL on November 18, 2024, 05:55:01 PM
However, in all solutions that one need in crypto space is that just avoid puting your money into a device that is connected to the internet, just buy a hardware wallet, you don't have to worry about downloading wrong things on your personal computer.

Not all of us are able to do that, mate. For example, where I live, acquiring a hardware wallet is very very tough because crypto is illegal here. So i cannot just go around purchasing a hardware wallet or order one online. I can't even buy it overseas and import it here, there are risks involved. I don't want to mess with the authorities either. You understand what i meant!
Title: Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
Post by: lepbagong on November 22, 2024, 02:47:46 AM
However, in all solutions that one need in crypto space is that just avoid puting your money into a device that is connected to the internet, just buy a hardware wallet, you don't have to worry about downloading wrong things on your personal computer.
Not all of us are able to do that, mate. For example, where I live, acquiring a hardware wallet is very very tough because crypto is illegal here. So i cannot just go around purchasing a hardware wallet or order one online. I can't even buy it overseas and import it here, there are risks involved. I don't want to mess with the authorities either. You understand what i meant!
There are many reasons for each person to be able to use hardware. Some feel that it is because it is expensive, and the transactions carried out are sufficient with the existing wallet and are still safe. But as you experience, of course, it is different, and clearly, it will not be necessary to use it, because it is impossible to sell there, and it is impossible to buy from abroad because of the prohibition, because there will be risks. In principle, everything can be different in its application and is not always the same.