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Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
« Reply #90 on: October 23, 2024, 08:51:25 PM »
That’s a nice idea, but still, you need to know that this can only minimize the chances of falling into one of these phishing scams and not to completely avoid it. Even with the device you set aside only for financial activities, there’s still every tendency of falling victim of those scams if you feel too safe or protected and let your guard down. Whether you’re using multiple devices or just one device for all you activities, the best thing to do is just to try as much as possible to stay safe and avoid suspicious activities or sites online.
Each device or application only minimizes the possibility of you being phishing or hacked or getting scammed. No one will tell you that we will give you a hundred percent guarantee even if you download a cracked file or a file with malware in front of a phishing link. So the privacy and security of your device is completely in your own hands.
And what I have said is that only the third party or any third person can access your data. I am personally benefiting by keeping devices separate from my working social media and entertainment social media. It provides me top level security. Because I do not connect these two devices.

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Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
« Reply #91 on: October 23, 2024, 09:00:19 PM »
Each device or application only minimizes the possibility of you being phishing or hacked or getting scammed. No one will tell you that we will give you a hundred percent guarantee even if you download a cracked file or a file with malware in front of a phishing link. So the privacy and security of your device is completely in your own hands.
And what I have said is that only the third party or any third person can access your data. I am personally benefiting by keeping devices separate from my working social media and entertainment social media. It provides me top level security. Because I do not connect these two devices.

Cracked files are one of the most dangerous applications anyone would try to install on their device. They may be free but because they have been manipulated to avoid the normal process, it will be hard to know if you are downloading a safe applications or not. So the best is to go for anything that has not been tempered.

However, in all solutions that one need in crypto space is that just avoid puting your money into a device that is connected to the internet, just buy a hardware wallet, you don't have to worry about downloading wrong things on your personal computer.
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Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
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Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
« Reply #92 on: October 24, 2024, 04:30:15 AM »
Each device or application only minimizes the possibility of you being phishing or hacked or getting scammed. No one will tell you that we will give you a hundred percent guarantee even if you download a cracked file or a file with malware in front of a phishing link. So the privacy and security of your device is completely in your own hands.
And what I have said is that only the third party or any third person can access your data. I am personally benefiting by keeping devices separate from my working social media and entertainment social media. It provides me top level security. Because I do not connect these two devices.
How about in situations you’ll need to use your working device to look up a few work related stuffs online, would you avoid using it and maybe just use your other device that’s meant for entertainment? I’m not really against the idea of using multiple devices for both work and entertainment. I’m just saying that this method may not completely guarantee your safety as long as you can still use the both devices to access the internet with an unsecured connection, you can still end up being phished.

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Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
« Reply #93 on: October 24, 2024, 09:38:24 PM »
How about in situations you’ll need to use your working device to look up a few work related stuffs online, would you avoid using it and maybe just use your other device that’s meant for entertainment? I’m not really against the idea of using multiple devices for both work and entertainment. I’m just saying that this method may not completely guarantee your safety as long as you can still use the both devices to access the internet with an unsecured connection, you can still end up being phished.
Look. I am using four devices one laptop and one desktop and two mobiles. The laptop I am using for my work and the desktop I am using for my entertainment purpose. And the way I have setup them I can use them separately with out having connecting them. And I always try to not browse a  single unnecessary site in my working laptop and try to not using my desktop for working. That's how I can maintain them and because I use my laptop for working I can also use it when I am out of my home. I have two phone for the same reason one have all the email and exchanger and one have the social medias.
Anyway, you don't have to repeated that event then these steps don't guaranteed the security because I have already mean in my previous post that security it all your hand suppose you did separate your devices but you also do the unsafe browsing on those devices then how they will make sure you security's guaranteed.

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Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
« Reply #94 on: October 25, 2024, 04:10:49 AM »
Each device or application only minimizes the possibility of you being phishing or hacked or getting scammed. No one will tell you that we will give you a hundred percent guarantee even if you download a cracked file or a file with malware in front of a phishing link. So the privacy and security of your device is completely in your own hands.
And what I have said is that only the third party or any third person can access your data. I am personally benefiting by keeping devices separate from my working social media and entertainment social media. It provides me top level security. Because I do not connect these two devices.
Cracked files are one of the most dangerous applications anyone would try to install on their device. They may be free but because they have been manipulated to avoid the normal process, it will be hard to know if you are downloading a safe applications or not. So the best is to go for anything that has not been tempered.

However, in all solutions that one need in crypto space is that just avoid puting your money into a device that is connected to the internet, just buy a hardware wallet, you don't have to worry about downloading wrong things on your personal computer.
The solution you said by using hardware is certainly very good if we are trading and investing quite a lot, but if you only want to accommodate the results of bounties and airdrops, it seems that your suggestion is too expensive to do.
Actually, all wallets have had good protection. That's just how users can use them according to the existing rules, so that they cannot be hacked by others.
The biggest hack is the fault of the user who is willing to accept any unknown letter link and click and follow the instructions told, which is actually a scam. If you do it in a good way and are not careless, the existing wallet is sufficient to be used.
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Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
« Reply #95 on: October 25, 2024, 04:42:52 AM »
Each device or application only minimizes the possibility of you being phishing or hacked or getting scammed. No one will tell you that we will give you a hundred percent guarantee even if you download a cracked file or a file with malware in front of a phishing link. So the privacy and security of your device is completely in your own hands.
And what I have said is that only the third party or any third person can access your data. I am personally benefiting by keeping devices separate from my working social media and entertainment social media. It provides me top level security. Because I do not connect these two devices.
How about in situations you’ll need to use your working device to look up a few work related stuffs online, would you avoid using it and maybe just use your other device that’s meant for entertainment? I’m not really against the idea of using multiple devices for both work and entertainment. I’m just saying that this method may not completely guarantee your safety as long as you can still use the both devices to access the internet with an unsecured connection, you can still end up being phished.

Well if you have like thousands of crypto, it could be better if you have a hardware wallet or totally a different machine for you work. For me that could be the likely set up that I have as I separated things just to be sure. I have a Macbook with my crypto and other online stuff that is very important for me.

Then another one for my daily used or even for my kids to used to when they wanted to. So I guess to each its own, but it is very important that we should have different laptop at least for me so that I will feel safe.
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Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
« Reply #96 on: October 25, 2024, 11:59:29 PM »

Well if you have like thousands of crypto, it could be better if you have a hardware wallet or totally a different machine for you work. For me that could be the likely set up that I have as I separated things just to be sure. I have a Macbook with my crypto and other online stuff that is very important for me.

Then another one for my daily used or even for my kids to used to when they wanted to. So I guess to each its own, but it is very important that we should have different laptop at least for me so that I will feel safe.
I was never and still not against the idea of having multiple  devices for your multiple online activities, even I have multiple devices too which I use for my various activities, but that doesn’t mean I should let my guard down and feel overly safe. That’s the only point I’m trying to make. Yes having multiple accounts can very much indeed minimize the risk of falling into a phishing scam since you wouldn’t have to often use your device containing your confidential information for your everyday activity.

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Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
« Reply #97 on: October 27, 2024, 09:12:04 PM »
I was never and still not against the idea of having multiple  devices for your multiple online activities, even I have multiple devices too which I use for my various activities, but that doesn’t mean I should let my guard down and feel overly safe. That’s the only point I’m trying to make. Yes having multiple accounts can very much indeed minimize the risk of falling into a phishing scam since you wouldn’t have to often use your device containing your confidential information for your everyday activity.
Now I think we should be stop about posting this topic because I am repeating the same think again and again and you are also repeating the same thing again and again.
And if we clearly look in my post I have both mention to that even if we use multiple devices our device can be on risk because of just our unsafe browsing. Main security is on our hand and you are also saying the same thing is having multiple device will minimize the risk but it won't give you 100% guranteed.

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Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
« Reply #98 on: October 28, 2024, 02:50:07 AM »
The solution you said by using hardware is certainly very good if we are trading and investing quite a lot, but if you only want to accommodate the results of bounties and airdrops, it seems that your suggestion is too expensive to do.
Actually, all wallets have had good protection. That's just how users can use them according to the existing rules, so that they cannot be hacked by others.
The biggest hack is the fault of the user who is willing to accept any unknown letter link and click and follow the instructions told, which is actually a scam. If you do it in a good way and are not careless, the existing wallet is sufficient to be used.
While hardware solutions are perfect for people who buy and sell a lot they might not be needed for managing bounty and airdrop rewards. Regular wallets already provide strong protection if used properly and choosing good one. Biggest problem is when users make mistakes like clicking on suspicious links or following instructions from unknown people. This is usually how hacking happens. To stay safe users should be careful and follow rules. If they do their existing wallets will be secure.
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Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
« Reply #99 on: October 28, 2024, 09:20:06 AM »
Now I think we should be stop about posting this topic because I am repeating the same think again and again and you are also repeating the same thing again and again.
And if we clearly look in my post I have both mention to that even if we use multiple devices our device can be on risk because of just our unsafe browsing. Main security is on our hand and you are also saying the same thing is having multiple device will minimize the risk but it won't give you 100% guranteed.
The only point I’m constantly repeating myself isn’t because of you but for the sake of those who are misunderstanding my point, i think some people are mistaking my point by thinking I’m against the idea of using multiple devices, and I’m simply just clearing the air. I’m fully aware of what you said and your point has been well noted, but I don’t think mine was well noted (by others) perhaps due to my choice of words, I don’t know. But you’re right, there’s absolutely no point for these vain repetitions.

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Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
« Reply #100 on: November 01, 2024, 12:03:10 AM »
The solution you said by using hardware is certainly very good if we are trading and investing quite a lot, but if you only want to accommodate the results of bounties and airdrops, it seems that your suggestion is too expensive to do.
Actually, all wallets have had good protection. That's just how users can use them according to the existing rules, so that they cannot be hacked by others.
The biggest hack is the fault of the user who is willing to accept any unknown letter link and click and follow the instructions told, which is actually a scam. If you do it in a good way and are not careless, the existing wallet is sufficient to be used.
While hardware solutions are perfect for people who buy and sell a lot they might not be needed for managing bounty and airdrop rewards. Regular wallets already provide strong protection if used properly and choosing good one. Biggest problem is when users make mistakes like clicking on suspicious links or following instructions from unknown people. This is usually how hacking happens. To stay safe users should be careful and follow rules. If they do their existing wallets will be secure.
I agree with you, it all depends on how we can keep our wallets from being stolen by fraudsters, Because in my opinion, actually, regular wallets that already exist are quite well protected, but all become meaningless because of mistakes we make ourselves.
Undestimating anything that can be directly connected to the wallet we have must be avoided. There are many ways for fraudsters to enter our wallets, but all can be protected by not making mistakes, so that fraudsters can open our wallets, avoid any links that we don't know. we don't accept any help from those who can help us with our difficulties, that's all we can do, then our wallets will be safe.
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Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
« Reply #101 on: November 01, 2024, 04:33:40 AM »

Well if you have like thousands of crypto, it could be better if you have a hardware wallet or totally a different machine for you work. For me that could be the likely set up that I have as I separated things just to be sure. I have a Macbook with my crypto and other online stuff that is very important for me.

Then another one for my daily used or even for my kids to used to when they wanted to. So I guess to each its own, but it is very important that we should have different laptop at least for me so that I will feel safe.
I was never and still not against the idea of having multiple  devices for your multiple online activities, even I have multiple devices too which I use for my various activities, but that doesn’t mean I should let my guard down and feel overly safe. That’s the only point I’m trying to make. Yes having multiple accounts can very much indeed minimize the risk of falling into a phishing scam since you wouldn’t have to often use your device containing your confidential information for your everyday activity.

Of course, we should let our guard down at anytime, not just because we uses separate machine mean that we will be lax using other pc or laptop. So it's really good to know and practice security hygiene, no matter what, it could be thru phishing or even sms, scammers are everywhere now, specially that we are in a bull run or fast approaching holiday seasons.

So we should really be on the guard every time. I remember my niece, who unfortunately, click a link, until it's too late that she realized that it was a phishing link. So this criminals was able to take control of her account. Luckily, there are no money or no history of her credit card, otherwise, it could be worst for her. So what's more if there are crypto in her machine.
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Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
« Reply #102 on: November 07, 2024, 01:04:42 AM »

Well if you have like thousands of crypto, it could be better if you have a hardware wallet or totally a different machine for you work. For me that could be the likely set up that I have as I separated things just to be sure. I have a Macbook with my crypto and other online stuff that is very important for me.

Then another one for my daily used or even for my kids to used to when they wanted to. So I guess to each its own, but it is very important that we should have different laptop at least for me so that I will feel safe.
I was never and still not against the idea of having multiple  devices for your multiple online activities, even I have multiple devices too which I use for my various activities, but that doesn’t mean I should let my guard down and feel overly safe. That’s the only point I’m trying to make. Yes having multiple accounts can very much indeed minimize the risk of falling into a phishing scam since you wouldn’t have to often use your device containing your confidential information for your everyday activity.
Of course, we should let our guard down at anytime, not just because we uses separate machine mean that we will be lax using other pc or laptop. So it's really good to know and practice security hygiene, no matter what, it could be thru phishing or even sms, scammers are everywhere now, specially that we are in a bull run or fast approaching holiday seasons.

So we should really be on the guard every time. I remember my niece, who unfortunately, click a link, until it's too late that she realized that it was a phishing link. So this criminals was able to take control of her account. Luckily, there are no money or no history of her credit card, otherwise, it could be worst for her. So what's more if there are crypto in her machine.
The main problem why we can fall into the trap of fraudsters is because of the mistakes we make ourselves and the cleverness of the fraudsters to be able to deceive everyone. We will indeed find it difficult not to be vigilant, because the fraudsters can use their intelligence to be able to trap us in their traps. Whatever method we do by using a separate device will not guarantee that we will not be trapped by fraudsters. What needs to be done is not to click on any links from all the social media that claim to be from the admin or anything that we don't know. We will definitely be safe. They enter through social media that continue to develop and we often follow them.
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Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
« Reply #103 on: November 07, 2024, 11:55:22 AM »
The main problem why we can fall into the trap of fraudsters is because of the mistakes we make ourselves and the cleverness of the fraudsters to be able to deceive everyone. We will indeed find it difficult not to be vigilant, because the fraudsters can use their intelligence to be able to trap us in their traps. Whatever method we do by using a separate device will not guarantee that we will not be trapped by fraudsters. What needs to be done is not to click on any links from all the social media that claim to be from the admin or anything that we don't know. We will definitely be safe. They enter through social media that continue to develop and we often follow them.
But do you realize that you can still fall victim of phishing attacks or any other scam without necessarily having to click on shady links or visiting shady sites? Yes, there are several ways that scammed and fraudsters can manipulate and maneuver their way into your privacy and steal your funds or sensitive information. The truth remains that you may just not be smart enough to outsmart them, there are those scam attempts that you can actually avoid either because you’ve heard or seen it because or even experienced it before and there are still those that you’re not familiar with.
Everyday around the world, different people get scammed and it’s not all of the victims that are ignorant or not careful enough.

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Re: Losing crypto via phishing: sad but avoidable
« Reply #104 on: November 09, 2024, 08:06:24 AM »

Well if you have like thousands of crypto, it could be better if you have a hardware wallet or totally a different machine for you work. For me that could be the likely set up that I have as I separated things just to be sure. I have a Macbook with my crypto and other online stuff that is very important for me.

Then another one for my daily used or even for my kids to used to when they wanted to. So I guess to each its own, but it is very important that we should have different laptop at least for me so that I will feel safe.
I was never and still not against the idea of having multiple  devices for your multiple online activities, even I have multiple devices too which I use for my various activities, but that doesn’t mean I should let my guard down and feel overly safe. That’s the only point I’m trying to make. Yes having multiple accounts can very much indeed minimize the risk of falling into a phishing scam since you wouldn’t have to often use your device containing your confidential information for your everyday activity.
Of course, we should let our guard down at anytime, not just because we uses separate machine mean that we will be lax using other pc or laptop. So it's really good to know and practice security hygiene, no matter what, it could be thru phishing or even sms, scammers are everywhere now, specially that we are in a bull run or fast approaching holiday seasons.

So we should really be on the guard every time. I remember my niece, who unfortunately, click a link, until it's too late that she realized that it was a phishing link. So this criminals was able to take control of her account. Luckily, there are no money or no history of her credit card, otherwise, it could be worst for her. So what's more if there are crypto in her machine.
The main problem why we can fall into the trap of fraudsters is because of the mistakes we make ourselves and the cleverness of the fraudsters to be able to deceive everyone. We will indeed find it difficult not to be vigilant, because the fraudsters can use their intelligence to be able to trap us in their traps. Whatever method we do by using a separate device will not guarantee that we will not be trapped by fraudsters. What needs to be done is not to click on any links from all the social media that claim to be from the admin or anything that we don't know. We will definitely be safe. They enter through social media that continue to develop and we often follow them.

It will lessen the chance of this fraudsters to attack us though. And because or machine that we used often are separated from that of our crypto used, then it's going to be very hard for them to penetrate us as our crypto are not going to be exposed. It's different if they attack us thru social media, and if we are wise enough, again, our social media accounts might not be connected to our crypto. So that's why we should be always be vigilant but adding a level of security as well is one of a good practice that we should make.
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