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Title: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: Lucius on September 15, 2024, 04:24:24 PM
Let's not pretend too much about some things, the majority "love" BTC because they believe it will bring them profit, the few appreciate it because it is a cryptocurrency with which they can make transactions anytime and with anyone.

What everyone expects to happen in the year of the halving is a big bull run that, if nothing else, will at least double the price of BTC, and somehow most people take that for granted - but the real question is how will people react if something like that doesn't happen?

Give your honest answers in the pool ;)



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Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: target on September 15, 2024, 04:44:53 PM

 I'd be disappointed. What is seemingly a good time to invest because the year is a halving year turned out to be a no profit year. Just thinking about how much time wasted when I could have just invest in gold because its price is more profitable.

When somebody said this election is all about crypto, I thought price could go up because of it. So we still have about few months to find out.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: PX-Z on September 15, 2024, 04:56:03 PM
Disappointment is pretty normal to us already when it comes to btc prices. I can't even count how i be one of them. But that's it, selling all my holdings is not an option as well, i will still put a remainder in my wallet.

Well, thinking of price that will go double isn't imaginable yet in my part, but i expect at least quarter of it or at least at 80k-90k range.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: _act_ on September 15, 2024, 05:16:41 PM
I do not know if the bull run is going to be big or mild but I definitely know that bitcoin will get to all-time high. It is also still possible that bitcoin will get to over $100 thousand. 2025 will still be for bulls but the bear market may start in late 2025.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: milewilda on September 15, 2024, 05:23:51 PM
Tons of people would really be that disappointed or simply the entire crypto community if there would really be no bull run that would happen into this cycle.
We are all anticipating for such bull run, if it turns out that there's none and we would be directly having that sideways movement or having that another bearish market
then i wont really be that surprised that there would really be tons that would be leaving out or would hop into other markets and would leave out crypto for sure.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: MrSpasybo on September 15, 2024, 05:26:02 PM
I'd be disappointed. What is seemingly a good time to invest because the year is a halving year turned out to be a no profit year. Just thinking about how much time wasted when I could have just invest in gold because its price is more profitable.

When somebody said this election is all about crypto, I thought price could go up because of it. So we still have about few months to find out.
Yeah, just like you, I've spent a lot of time analyzing the market and preparing a very detailed plan to make big profits in the bullrun. It would be a shame if the bullrun doesn't come and BTC can't surpass $100K in this cycle. If BTC doesn't continue to create a new ATH above $74K, but continues to move sideways and decline in 2026, I will sell all my crypto assets to have USDT for the DCA strategy in the next crypto winter.

However, I still have high hopes for the bullrun and the impressive growth of BTC and many ALTS in the crypto market. That is the most likely scenario to attract new investors and capital, helping whales to take profits in the distribution zone. If the bullrun doesn't happen, whales won't be able to make big profits after putting a lot of effort into manipulating the market.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: Hamza2424 on September 15, 2024, 05:32:57 PM
Hmm, for me, it does matter and it doesn't too, it is not like I have all my funds in crypto and these are the funds only I have to survive I cant bear the loss and the bull run is super urgent for me, i can wait for another cycle but I'l expect a decent return at that time as if it still performs average what's the use of choosing a volatile & maturing market.

Waiitng is not a problem, but for sure if in this cycle it doest happen I'll be disappointed and will be more conscious before making more entries, as nothing is promised everything is speculation and based on potential.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: Rikafip on September 15, 2024, 05:44:54 PM
I wen with "I will not sell anything more than what I need"

Regarding the question in OP, nothing much will change for me as I certainly won't get rid off bitcoin or sell any significant amount (unless I am aboslutely foced to due life circumstances). Having said that, of course I will be a little bit disappointed as I had some plans if bitcoin reaches 100k+ but that's nothing that can't wait another cycle.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: Stompix on September 15, 2024, 05:46:00 PM
What everyone expects to happen in the year of the halving is a big bull run that, if nothing else, will at least double the price of BTC, and somehow most people take that for granted - but the real question is how will people react if something like that doesn't happen?

Honestly, I won't care too much because I'm already pessimistic about the future, if it beats by a considerable margin average stock gains and obviously inflation it would still be good for me.  But there will be a lot of opium and denial around, can't wait to see the theories about how evil organizations are manipulating the price and so on, to be honest, a part of me wants that just once instead of a bullish year to have bearish one so we can see the true faces of those believers!
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: MUGNIA on September 15, 2024, 05:46:31 PM
as usual i will sell my assets if i need them later if the bullrun is canceled for the 2025 bullrun session
even though i am disappointed but what can i do because no one can determine market movements. even if it is a big whale
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: 0t3p0t on September 15, 2024, 06:33:30 PM
Let's not pretend too much about some things, the majority "love" BTC because they believe it will bring them profit, the few appreciate it because it is a cryptocurrency with which they can make transactions anytime and with anyone.

What everyone expects to happen in the year of the halving is a big bull run that, if nothing else, will at least double the price of BTC, and somehow most people take that for granted - but the real question is how will people react if something like that doesn't happen?

Give your honest answers in the pool ;)



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This actually doesn't apply to me since I am selling my Bitcoin portions due to the fact that I have no other source of income but if I had to pretend that I had enough then not selling my holdings will give me higher chance to make good profit when bullrun will happen again. The only problem for us ordinary Bitcoiners is that we tend to sell most of our holdings when needed.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: Hamza2424 on September 15, 2024, 07:41:22 PM
as usual i will sell my assets if i need them later if the bullrun is canceled for the 2025 bullrun session
even though i am disappointed but what can i do because no one can determine market movements. even if it is a big whale

Hmm, Interesting kind of same thoughts but in the direction of holding most of my assets, as I dont need most of them currently, by the way, that's a fact even a billionaire cant change anything in the market, he can manipulate for a short interval of time but the ending is un-controlled. So be conscious always my fellows dont follow the lust and greed of money stay in the realistic zone.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: Wiseman on September 16, 2024, 08:09:53 AM
I have stepped over this moment with disappointment by not holding on to one asset for years, including Bitcoin, I buy and sell it and do this many times, of course, this is not suitable for everyone, but for those who are engaged in trading or are more deeply dedicated to cryptocurrencies, but still, if you earn cryptocurrency, you do not need to put it aside, you can still increase it with the help of trading.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: bitterguy28 on September 16, 2024, 09:20:28 AM
as usual i will sell my assets if i need them later if the bullrun is canceled for the 2025 bullrun session
no one can say that though it’s not like someone is controlling the bull run and he can decide whether to make it happen or not it can’t be just ‘canceled’ and even if the cycle does not repeat itself this year, no one will know until it’s too late no one gets a warning or anything of some sort
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even though i am disappointed but what can i do because no one can determine market movements. even if it is a big whale
i think you would get more losses if you try to sell your holdings when the price is going down what if it goes up again? will you try to buy at a higher price? for me i’m just going to keep trusting bitcoin
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: taufik123 on September 16, 2024, 12:56:10 PM
-snip-
 but the real question is how will people react if something like that doesn't happen?

Give your honest answers in the pool ;)
After the halving occurred the price looked weaker and nothing major happened, it was just close to the last ATH price but was not able to reach the new ATH or at the ATH target most people is $100k++.

It's a little disappointing if the big bull run really doesn't happen, but anything can happen in crypto. When the majority of holders are already disbelieving and pessimistic that a big bull run will not happen, that is where the opportunity for a bullrun begins. 

However, I will still hold and collect as many Bitcoins as I can, put in my bag as well as some of the top altcoins. 

This is my reaction and not necessarily the reaction I have will be the same as everyone else, but this time I will not miss the opportunity to buy more bitcoin before the big bullrun happens.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: target on September 16, 2024, 02:38:29 PM

The problem with no bull run to ATH is that we get no profit and we as crypro investors will struggle the same as how the non investor would suffer the rising prices while there is coming recession. 

It only looks like we are all in for a surprise whennwe all expect bull run after halving yet the manipulation wins.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: Lucius on September 16, 2024, 02:53:23 PM
I'd be disappointed. What is seemingly a good time to invest because the year is a halving year turned out to be a no profit year. Just thinking about how much time wasted when I could have just invest in gold because its price is more profitable.
~snip~


If you are an investor only for the short term and if you only do it before or after the halving then it makes some sense to talk about gold as an alternative, but in a much bigger picture BTC has surpassed the price of gold astronomically in a period of only 15 years. I want to say that everyone who believed in the success of BTC is still in solid profit today, because not so long ago we had the price of BTC below $20k ($15.5k), and a few weeks ago it was below $50k.

If you wanted to avoid risks, you should have directed part of your investments to something else, because that's what people who want to insure themselves do.



~snip~
Well, thinking of price that will go double isn't imaginable yet in my part, but i expect at least quarter of it or at least at 80k-90k range.


By the end of the year, I'm also skeptical that it would happen, but by the end of 2025 it is realistic to expect 100k+ if things work out the way they should.



I wen with "I will not sell anything more than what I need"
Regarding the question in OP, nothing much will change for me as I certainly won't get rid off bitcoin or sell any significant amount (unless I am aboslutely foced to due life circumstances). Having said that, of course I will be a little bit disappointed as I had some plans if bitcoin reaches 100k+ but that's nothing that can't wait another cycle.


I have the same thinking, because although I don't believe that nothing positive will happen, it won't be a tragedy if we don't reach a new ATH by the end of this year or next year - realistically, we have already reached one, it just happened before the halving.



Honestly, I won't care too much because I'm already pessimistic about the future, if it beats by a considerable margin average stock gains and obviously inflation it would still be good for me.  But there will be a lot of opium and denial around, can't wait to see the theories about how evil organizations are manipulating the price and so on, to be honest, a part of me wants that just once instead of a bullish year to have bearish one so we can see the true faces of those believers!

It's true, if you take into account everything that's happening, the future doesn't look very bright, but I'm an optimist by nature and as long as there's hope that it will get better, I want to believe that we shouldn't look at everything in a dark tone. There are actually very few "believers", the more accurate word would be "opportunists", but we are all somewhat in this second category, although some obviously have life situations that allow them not to depend entirely on the price of BTC.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: nakmantu99 on September 16, 2024, 02:58:20 PM
-snip-
 but the real question is how will people react if something like that doesn't happen?

Give your honest answers in the pool ;)
After the halving occurred the price looked weaker and nothing major happened, it was just close to the last ATH price but was not able to reach the new ATH or at the ATH target most people is $100k++.

It's a little disappointing if the big bull run really doesn't happen, but anything can happen in crypto. When the majority of holders are already disbelieving and pessimistic that a big bull run will not happen, that is where the opportunity for a bullrun begins. 

However, I will still hold and collect as many Bitcoins as I can, put in my bag as well as some of the top altcoins. 

This is my reaction and not necessarily the reaction I have will be the same as everyone else, but this time I will not miss the opportunity to buy more bitcoin before the big bullrun happens.
Our reaction is almost the same because I also collect as much bitcoin as possible right now and store it in my wallet. Although there are some members who are pessimistic that the bull run will never happen because bitcoin has reached ATH before bitcoin halving but I have the same belief as the previous bulls, that the bullish season will occur a year after bitcoin halving unless there is an extraordinary event globally that makes the bullish season never happen.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: Themepen on September 16, 2024, 03:52:29 PM
I strongly believe that it will happen because long term view is saying this. And I think this bull run will be massive.
I have accumulated many altcoins and Bitcoin too. And I hope I will get huge profit from them.

But if it will not happen so this will be a disappointing moment for me. But still I believe that this will happen soon. So let's wait for that moment. This is my second bull runs I didn't get anything from the last bull run because at that time I was new. But I saw Bitcoin $4000 to $70000. But I didn't invest at that time but now I am in and waiting.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: Stompix on September 16, 2024, 04:40:02 PM
There are actually very few "believers", the more accurate word would be "opportunists", but we are all somewhat in this second category, although some obviously have life situations that allow them not to depend entirely on the price of BTC.

I think that still opportunists are right now at in advantage, if they bought 1-2 years ago they are still counting profits.

If I look back, from a long-term holder the whole thing is a lot more disappointing, I mean if I would look only for $, I could have sold in 2021 at 69k theoretically and now 3 years later I can sell at 59k, in things of unrealized profits we're really behind, especially if we count inflation or the 30% the stock market gained from then.

But as I said, the sadist in me would really want to experience 3-4 years of running around these same levels, just to get rid of these "investors".
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: Lucius on September 16, 2024, 05:32:42 PM
~snip~
If I look back, from a long-term holder the whole thing is a lot more disappointing, I mean if I would look only for $, I could have sold in 2021 at 69k theoretically and now 3 years later I can sell at 59k, in things of unrealized profits we're really behind, especially if we count inflation or the 30% the stock market gained from then.


You are right to some extent, because if we look at those who have a history of investing in BTC a little more than 4-5 years (which for some is a very long time), then we can say that those who invest through DCA for the past ten years have no (or almost no) reason to be dissatisfied. The only question is what is the percentage of such investors, that is, those who can not only wait, but have such unrealized profit that it is almost incomparable to anything else.

But as I said, the sadist in me would really want to experience 3-4 years of running around these same levels, just to get rid of these "investors".

I don't know if it would change anything, because they would probably come back with the first sign of a serious recovery, and in the meantime they would look for opportunities in altcoins. Only without strong BTC, most altcoins remain at the same level (at best) or lose their value even faster.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: Asiska02 on September 16, 2024, 06:39:33 PM
What everyone expects to happen in the year of the halving is a big bull run that, if nothing else, will at least double the price of BTC, and somehow most people take that for granted - but the real question is how will people react if something like that doesn't happen?

Give your honest answers in the pool ;)

I will be disappointed and I know a lot of people will also be. The reason why bitcoin is been adopted and have a very big impact is because at every bull run, the price it tends to rise to and make those that invested in it profitable is loved by all investors both big and small. Forget about the reason it was invented, for complete decentralization it was, a lot of people embraced it because of the value it gives back after a while which the time after halving do trigger the price to a new All Time High. Your thoughts about it maybe not happening must have been hovering in a lot of people’s mind but they won’t want to believe to keep such thought in mind. This cycle has been unpredictable and what people are expecting have not been the case. Optimism is what is keeping people from voicing out in my opinion.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: LogitechMouse on September 16, 2024, 07:07:22 PM
Let's not pretend too much about some things, the majority "love" BTC because they believe it will bring them profit, the few appreciate it because it is a cryptocurrency with which they can make transactions anytime and with anyone.

What everyone expects to happen in the year of the halving is a big bull run that, if nothing else, will at least double the price of BTC, and somehow most people take that for granted - but the real question is how will people react if something like that doesn't happen?
I choose "I will not sell anything more than what I need."

As for our beliefs towards Bitcoin, most of the people sees it as an asset more than a currency and it's good. I want to use Bitcoin for various transaction, but I'm sure there are some who don't want to use it for various reasons, and also the mindset of "if they will use their Bitcoins for transactions, they might lose the opportunity for more profits" that's why they're holding it.

Well, if the bull run doesn't happen "at least this year or next year", I still have a plan B. I will sell almost half of my portfolio (Bitcoin and altcoins). I will not sell it at a loss of course, but if shit happens, I guess I'll just continue Dollar-Cost Averaging until the big bull run starts. :)
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: taufik123 on September 18, 2024, 10:59:20 AM
Our reaction is almost the same because I also collect as much bitcoin as possible right now and store it in my wallet. Although there are some members who are pessimistic that the bull run will never happen because bitcoin has reached ATH before bitcoin halving but I have the same belief as the previous bulls, that the bullish season will occur a year after bitcoin halving unless there is an extraordinary event globally that makes the bullish season never happen.
Global events or the state of the world economy that are not good with the occurrence of wars between countries which certainly affect everything.
When more people are pessimistic about the next bullrun, this is the best opportunity to get into bitcoin, as it will be cheaper.

Remember when Warren Buffett said Bitcoin would hit 0 (ZERO), there were a lot of negative sentiments that came up, but when we already believe that it's just nonsense, it's a good chance to start buying more.

And the proof is when Warren Buffett said that after that Bitcoin was able to reach a new ATH and continue to rise until it was able to reach an ATH of $73k, now it is only necessary to wait for the ATH of $100k++ to be reached. Prepare your bag.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: Bobcrypto on September 18, 2024, 02:10:47 PM
Let's not pretend too much about some things, the majority "love" BTC because they believe it will bring them profit, the few appreciate it because it is a cryptocurrency with which they can make transactions anytime and with anyone.

What everyone expects to happen in the year of the halving is a big bull run that, if nothing else, will at least double the price of BTC, and somehow most people take that for granted - but the real question is how will people react if something like that doesn't happen?

Give your honest answers in the pool ;)



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I tell you plainly, nothing will happen if the expected marker bull run could not come up as people think. One thing you must know is that many of the past expected bullish momentum are just market analysis from different experts, it has been proven that Bitcoin is difficult to predict, and i am  considering that the expected bull run as just the usual predictions that may easily fail.
As you might have observed, crypto market analysis is a probability, it can also be a 50/50 chances, some times some analyst can get it at 95%, and at certain time, a failure outcome.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: ZAINmalik75 on September 18, 2024, 03:46:52 PM
Let's not pretend too much about some things, the majority "love" BTC because they believe it will bring them profit, the few appreciate it because it is a cryptocurrency with which they can make transactions anytime and with anyone.

What everyone expects to happen in the year of the halving is a big bull run that, if nothing else, will at least double the price of BTC, and somehow most people take that for granted - but the real question is how will people react if something like that doesn't happen?

Give your honest answers in the pool ;)



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I will realize the mistake first just like other investors and I already knew I am risking my money but with bull cycle end the risk is bigger we might have to wait for 4 years to get our profit again. I will not distrust BTC and won't talk badly about it because it something not new for us.

Old users already know its how market works if it was supposed to be bullish and it is not then we can only wait until it does. If BTC never pumped due to the crazy buying pressure before the halving event then that will be a big question in itself first but if it has not doubled then we can't really do anything.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: Stompix on September 18, 2024, 03:49:14 PM
I don't know if it would change anything, because they would probably come back with the first sign of a serious recovery, and in the meantime they would look for opportunities in altcoins. Only without strong BTC, most altcoins remain at the same level (at best) or lose their value even faster.

It's going to be a shock way more than you think, once the 4-year cycle everyone takes for granted and looks at it like the words from the Bible will be broken it will change crypto from something that it's understood as hold every damn token cause it will be of value someday to a thing more relatable to the stock market. Once that belief is shattered it will suddenly look way more complicated and far riskier, and lots will abandon the get rich for doing nothing strategy.
I'm pretty confident it will also shatter a lot of the meme&co token industry!
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: JISAN on September 18, 2024, 04:21:17 PM
I do not know if the bull run is going to be big or mild but I definitely know that bitcoin will get to all-time high. It is also still possible that bitcoin will get to over $100 thousand. 2025 will still be for bulls but the bear market may start in late 2025.
It is not sure whether Bitcoin price will hit one hundred thousand dollars in 2025 but there is a high possibility that Bitcoin can make an ATH.  And if this happens, Bitcoin's bull run will definitely be seen.  If bitcoin bull run is not seen now then many people can lose because many people are collecting bitcoins for future bull run and investing huge amount in bitcoins.  Hopefully Bitcoin doesn't disappoint anyone. Because if we look at previous histories, we will not see any failure history of Bitcoin
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: Parzival204 on September 18, 2024, 05:56:44 PM
People who have done analysis long ago will feel disappointed if the bullrun doesn't happen. Moreover, if they have prepared a big concept to sell their coins during the bullrun. And for people who don't have big expectations when the bullrun will be just normal. Remembering Bitcoin are more likely to be taken seriously by people who have invested a lot in this matter
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: Sarionadukecom on September 18, 2024, 08:33:57 PM
People who have done analysis long ago will feel disappointed if the bullrun doesn't happen. Moreover, if they have prepared a big concept to sell their coins during the bullrun. And for people who don't have big expectations when the bullrun will be just normal. Remembering Bitcoin are more likely to be taken seriously by people who have invested a lot in this matter

I think it'll happen but it also depends on manipulations from institutions. Probably in 2025. This year is for grabbing liquidity
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: nakmantu99 on September 18, 2024, 10:20:40 PM
I do not know if the bull run is going to be big or mild but I definitely know that bitcoin will get to all-time high. It is also still possible that bitcoin will get to over $100 thousand. 2025 will still be for bulls but the bear market may start in late 2025.
It is not sure whether Bitcoin price will hit one hundred thousand dollars in 2025 but there is a high possibility that Bitcoin can make an ATH.  And if this happens, Bitcoin's bull run will definitely be seen.  If bitcoin bull run is not seen now then many people can lose because many people are collecting bitcoins for future bull run and investing huge amount in bitcoins.  Hopefully Bitcoin doesn't disappoint anyone. Because if we look at previous histories, we will not see any failure history of Bitcoin
still believe bitcoin will reach ATH $100K, that is the perception that I am building right now. because as an investor who has bitcoin in a wallet in a decent amount, I must have confidence in the coins that I have that I bought during the bearish season. Maybe there are those who are pessimistic that bitcoin will reach that price, but not for me because I have done research on the development of bitcoin prices in each cycle and the possibility of $100K will be achieved.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: kulkhan on September 18, 2024, 11:03:57 PM
People who have done analysis long ago will feel disappointed if the bullrun doesn't happen. Moreover, if they have prepared a big concept to sell their coins during the bullrun. And for people who don't have big expectations when the bullrun will be just normal. Remembering Bitcoin are more likely to be taken seriously by people who have invested a lot in this matter

I think it'll happen but it also depends on manipulations from institutions. Probably in 2025. This year is for grabbing liquidity
I am not clear about institutional manipulation. If you clear it will be helpful to me. And i think Gradually Bitcoin position being strong. And i strongly believe within short time bitcoin will pump. And i also think 2025 is for bitcoin. I think in 2025 we will saw bog pump for Bitcoin. We also know huge Big whales are trying to manuplute. But if that happen then that will for short time i think.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: Zed0X on September 18, 2024, 11:21:47 PM
If the six digits BTC doesn't happen by end of the year or by 2025, then we move on to the next. It's another proof that nobody can really time the market's peak that is why it's important to have an exit strategy. Selling in portions while already in profit would be better than be caught with the fall and be forced to bag holding until the next run.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on September 18, 2024, 11:35:31 PM
       -        Even if the bull run does not happen, it will appear in the end that it is not true that Bitcoin is proven and tested for long-term investment, which is what the people in this field of crypto always say.pace or it will turn out that Bitcoin is just a lie in terms of long-term investment, right?

And frustration or disappointment is the number one thing that everyone will feel when that happens, especially if they expect too much, but if we broaden our understanding, for sure we know that it is not just in the bull run that we can get profit, but any moment we can get earnings here.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: Hamza2424 on September 18, 2024, 11:40:09 PM
If the six digits BTC doesn't happen by end of the year or by 2025, then we move on to the next. It's another proof that nobody can really time the market's peak that is why it's important to have an exit strategy. Selling in portions while already in profit would be better than be caught with the fall and be forced to bag holding until the next run.

Well, said bro the efficient accumulation is important for decent return but the on-time exit strategy is important to save those returns and avoid the uncertain losses. You need to time your strategy if anyone want to survive as here in the market if he will go after the speculations and emotions there's nothing for him/her, stay safe. Your subconscious mind with your consciousness needs to be sharp as you are playing with big money bags.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: rby on September 18, 2024, 11:57:55 PM
If the six digits BTC doesn't happen by end of the year or by 2025, then we move on to the next. It's another proof that nobody can really time the market's peak that is why it's important to have an exit strategy. Selling in portions while already in profit would be better than be caught with the fall and be forced to bag holding until the next run.
Before some of us on this platform started having little knowledge about Bitcoin and cryptocurrency in general, there's been crypto experts that's taken their time and resources to study the market, master since the birth of cryptocurrency innovation. These people in their wisdom and acquired knowledge have successfully made similar predictions like the bull run we all are waiting and even when this predictions seemed almost impossible to happen at the times they were made, the crypto market still ended up moving to the predicted directions. For these same experts to come out and predict the bull run and the estimated price they expect the BTC to hit during the bull run, I'm of the opinion that we're very likely to experience what has been predicted.
BTC might not hit the predicted six digits before the end of 2025 but I think it'll definitely get somewhere close to that price or better still surpass it.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: TomPluz on September 19, 2024, 06:34:46 AM


In case there will never be a bull run especially in 2025, am sure there will a lot of disappointment and some may sell their holdings at a better price not waiting anymore with the possibility of at least doubling the value of their Bitcoin. While we can analyze, speculate and wish...only time will tell of what can be. And while we can be basing our momentary decisions on the past or precedents, there are times when there can be an exemption. Still, I prefer to think that soon BTC will be approaching the $150K zone and I am hoping it can happen in the first quarter of next year.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: yhiaali3 on September 19, 2024, 06:55:10 AM
For me, I chose to vote for number 3 "I will not sell anything more than what I need". Although I hope this scenario does not happen.

I am a fan of Bitcoin and believe in its future a lot, but I am a realistic person, I do not have much to wait for the next cycle in 2028 because I need to spend on my personal expenses and family expenses, so I am forced to sell some of what I own when needed.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: luckyledger on September 19, 2024, 07:43:04 AM
For me, I chose to vote for number 3 "I will not sell anything more than what I need". Although I hope this scenario does not happen.

I am a fan of Bitcoin and believe in its future a lot, but I am a realistic person, I do not have much to wait for the next cycle in 2028 because I need to spend on my personal expenses and family expenses, so I am forced to sell some of what I own when needed.

You are right, if it's needed - it's totally viable to do so.
I only invest in crypto and in BTC of course what I am willing to freeze, so to speak - so I would choose the third option too simply because BTC will cross its ATH anyways, but more time may be needed, and it's alright.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: Rruchi man on September 19, 2024, 10:48:51 PM
but the real question is how will people react if something like that doesn't happen?
Personally I will not have high hopes for the next halving, but I will not stop investing. I believe bitcoin will do very well and if it is not the halving that will raise the value, something else will.

There are investors who would be dissatisfied and as a result decide to stop investing, I see it as their loss.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: Azharul on September 20, 2024, 05:35:12 AM
People who have done analysis long ago will feel disappointed if the bullrun doesn't happen. Moreover, if they have prepared a big concept to sell their coins during the bullrun. And for people who don't have big expectations when the bullrun will be just normal. Remembering Bitcoin are more likely to be taken seriously by people who have invested a lot in this matter

I think it'll happen but it also depends on manipulations from institutions. Probably in 2025. This year is for grabbing liquidity
I am not clear about institutional manipulation. If you clear it will be helpful to me. And i think Gradually Bitcoin position being strong. And i strongly believe within short time bitcoin will pump. And i also think 2025 is for bitcoin. I think in 2025 we will saw bog pump for Bitcoin. We also know huge Big whales are trying to manuplute. But if that happen then that will for short time i think.
We know that Bitcoin is the best valuable crypto in cryptocurrency world. We also know that bitcoin price is also better than others crypto. But sometimes we saw that bitcoin price is down. We also believe that many investors waiting for a big bull run in cryptocurrency market. So i think that will bitcoin create a new ATH in crypto market, than i expect bitcoin will be achieve a big bull run. But if doesn’t happen in bull run, i believe that many investors will be give up hope from bitcoin. I also think that within one or two year bitcoin will hit $100k.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: legend45 on September 20, 2024, 09:41:49 AM
For me, I chose to vote for number 3 "I will not sell anything more than what I need". Although I hope this scenario does not happen.

I am a fan of Bitcoin and believe in its future a lot, but I am a realistic person, I do not have much to wait for the next cycle in 2028 because I need to spend on my personal expenses and family expenses, so I am forced to sell some of what I own when needed.
We should focus on this investment to face the bullish season next year, I also haven't thought about the 2028 cycle because it's still a long way off. Thinking realistically in investing is very true because we don't need to think too far, we should take as much profit as possible now.

We know that Bitcoin is the best valuable crypto in cryptocurrency world. We also know that bitcoin price is also better than others crypto. But sometimes we saw that bitcoin price is down. We also believe that many investors waiting for a big bull run in cryptocurrency market. So i think that will bitcoin create a new ATH in crypto market, than i expect bitcoin will be achieve a big bull run. But if doesn’t happen in bull run, i believe that many investors will be give up hope from bitcoin. I also think that within one or two year bitcoin will hit $100k.
It is possible that next year the price of Bitcoin will rise to $100K, that is my belief at the moment because I see that the current movement of Bitcoin has improved and it is possible that early next year the price of Bitcoin will be above $80K.


Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: gunhell16 on September 20, 2024, 12:03:53 PM
Is the question made by OP realistic? Since Bitcoin existed, has it happened since then that every 4 years there is no bull run? The answer is, of course, we all know that nothing has happened and that every 4 years that pass there is no bull run that does not happen.

So the answer to the OP's question is also just imagination and not realistic because nothing like that has happened that the bull run didn't happen every 4 years.
Is that right?

Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: Lucius on September 20, 2024, 04:54:44 PM
Is the question made by OP realistic? Since Bitcoin existed, has it happened since then that every 4 years there is no bull run? The answer is, of course, we all know that nothing has happened and that every 4 years that pass there is no bull run that does not happen.

So the answer to the OP's question is also just imagination and not realistic because nothing like that has happened that the bull run didn't happen every 4 years.
Is that right?


Why wouldn't it be realistic? Nowhere in the white paper or in the code itself is it written that every 4 years the price of BTC must go up by a certain percentage. It has never happened before that we achieve a new ATH before the halving, and yet it happened this year for the first time.

Just to clarify, because you seem to panic that I'm saying that the bull run won't happen - I'm just asking a hypothetical question, not making a claim.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: Hamza2424 on September 22, 2024, 10:40:33 PM
Hmm.. Revisiting even market is making some progress and showing some positive intent still we need to acknowledge that anything can happen, but according to voting seems like people here are more confident with their learnings and they know how to act in such kind of situations because most of the voting is in favor of the option C even though the data set or vote casters are limited in numbers but in collective approach, it s a decent result to know about communities sentiments.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on September 22, 2024, 11:21:44 PM
What everyone expects to happen in the year of the halving is a big bull run that, if nothing else, will at least double the price of BTC, and somehow most people take that for granted - but the real question is how will people react if something like that doesn't happen?
Well, I am not going to act like I am a super hero and pretend nothing will happen when and if the much anticipated bull run fails to materialize, I mean, I've invested heavily on some Altcoins which I believed will do well in the coming bull run; and if at the end of the day, there is no bull run, it's absolutely normal that I will be very disappointed, as that could mean a big loss for me, and for several other persons like me out there.

And let me actually mention that this same topic has been discussed before, can't tell if it was on this board or a seperate board, but I am very sure that i have authored a thread of this very same topic on this forum like a month or two ago.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: debra on September 22, 2024, 11:27:26 PM
Actually, the measure for the bullrun later is when the Bitcoin price touches how much? Because many say that it will be $100k. But for me, if the price is already $85k, I will start selling, oh, just a few percent. Well, at least I don't want to regret missing the moment. And at that number, I can actually get quite a lot of profit.

But again, only a few percent, because there will be other targets, namely $90k, then $100k, and leaving a little for the number above $100k. So even if it turns out not to be in accordance with our expectations, we have already made a profit. And when the market is about to drop, but it hasn't been reached, I will choose to take all the profits right away, rather than being late and not getting any profit at all,
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: philipma1957 on September 23, 2024, 12:00:59 AM
Let's not pretend too much about some things, the majority "love" BTC because they believe it will bring them profit, the few appreciate it because it is a cryptocurrency with which they can make transactions anytime and with anyone.

What everyone expects to happen in the year of the halving is a big bull run that, if nothing else, will at least double the price of BTC, and somehow most people take that for granted - but the real question is how will people react if something like that doesn't happen?

Give your honest answers in the pool ;)



Recommendation for all members, if you are already quoting someone's post, edit (delete) the part that does not apply to your answer. Pyramidal quotes look really ugly and are completely unnecessary.


I will sell a bit and hodl the rest. I will also stick with my 1 year host contract as I signed a contract for 5 miners.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: pieppiep on September 23, 2024, 07:59:26 AM
Hmm.. Revisiting even market is making some progress and showing some positive intent still we need to acknowledge that anything can happen, but according to voting seems like people here are more confident with their learnings and they know how to act in such kind of situations because most of the voting is in favor of the option C even though the data set or vote casters are limited in numbers but in collective approach, it s a decent result to know about communities sentiments.
It is impressive that the community is ready and informed enough to make correct choices, which is crucial in conditions of constantly changing markets. This means that people are not only interested in trends, but are equally trying to look for information about the market. Although it is important to understand that the market is constantly evolving, and this or that strategy may cease to be relevant at any time, confidence in one’s actions and the fact that a given approach really works is worth much. One should have confidence in the selected strategy and the result is always positive when there is issue of patience and readiness.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: Lucius on September 26, 2024, 05:23:05 PM
Well, I am not going to act like I am a super hero and pretend nothing will happen when and if the much anticipated bull run fails to materialize, I mean, I've invested heavily on some Altcoins which I believed will do well in the coming bull run; and if at the end of the day, there is no bull run, it's absolutely normal that I will be very disappointed, as that could mean a big loss for me, and for several other persons like me out there.

If you followed the rule that you invest only as much as you are ready to lose, then the absence of a bull run would only be a disappointment, but not a situation where you lost money that you simply shouldn't have lost. Unfortunately, a few people like you are not the true picture of things, because hundreds of thousands, and probably millions of people are taking risks in the hope that something will happen because it has already happened several times in the past.

Here we are talking about losses amounting to billions of dollars, but you should know that someone's loss is always someone else's gain - and this only supports the theory that the few get rich, and the majority are left with their losses.

And let me actually mention that this same topic has been discussed before, can't tell if it was on this board or a seperate board, but I am very sure that i have authored a thread of this very same topic on this forum like a month or two ago.

It is possible, I personally have not seen a similar topic here, and no one has posted a link pointing to it so far.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on September 26, 2024, 07:37:29 PM
        -        We know that most of the holders of bitcoin or other crypto assets really expect earnings in every bull run that comes. Now, if it doesn't happen every 4 years, the question is, what is the reason?

Isn't it true that when bitcoin was created, it was designed that every 4 years there will be a halving, and as in the history of bitcoin, every time after the halving, the next thing that will happen is a bull run? So, in reality, it has not yet happened, but if it ever happens, I won't be disappointed; I'll just continue what I started holding assets.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: Hamza2424 on September 26, 2024, 10:32:41 PM
Isn't it true that when bitcoin was created, it was designed that every 4 years there will be a halving, and as in the history of bitcoin, every time after the halving, the next thing that will happen is a bull run? So, in reality, it has not yet happened, but if it ever happens, I won't be disappointed; I'll just continue what I started holding assets.

TBH, the halving was not to boost the Bull run, its came as a by-product of the natural concept of supply and demand in market, as the supply gets a cut compared to the market demand and other sentiments from the traders it boosts the market valuation so calling that its was designed to be boosted is not true even though from historic movement its fact that after every halving cycle Bitcoin sets a new ATH for the cycle and this repeats on every halving event.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: vegasus on September 26, 2024, 10:54:21 PM
        -        We know that most of the holders of bitcoin or other crypto assets really expect earnings in every bull run that comes. Now, if it doesn't happen every 4 years, the question is, what is the reason?
Yes, while this is like a kind of annual cycle that continues to happen. and even if there is something that is not achieved, it might not be the bullrun season, but the ATH predictions for Bitcoin and altcoins later. If the bullrun event I think will still happen, it's just that, how high the increase will be, there will be many predictions. As we know that there are many predictions related to BTC going up to $100k, now this is still a question, will it really be able to reach that number or not.

and the next question is, what is the definition and criteria for the bullrun later? if BTC is above $74k can it be said to be a bullrun because it has also exceeded the previous ATH? This is what is being thought about. But what is certain is that we set our own targets, a certain percentage of the profit that we can get, not all in one at 1 rate to prevent unwanted things or things that may not happen.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: joniboini on September 27, 2024, 08:28:53 PM
Looks like most voters won't sell anything more than what they need, though the definition can be a bit vague depending on who you ask. I believe selling less than half is probably what I'd do, but that will only happen if I need fiat money fast (preparing to move to a new house is a bit tough, although I don't have to do it asap), so the choice is a bit redundant for me.

Anyway, some of my family members plan to sell their crypto at the end of the year because they believe the return will be big. They're quite new to the crypto market, so I'm surprised they know about the cycle and plan around it that quickly. Luckily they don't buy at the top because it would sting and I doubt they'll stick around after that.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: Crypto Library on September 27, 2024, 09:27:38 PM
I actually still don't understand what you mean by big bull season because I think the bull season has not started yet. I will call this situation bullish market. I don't understand big bull season but my expectation is that coin will touch atleast 100k this season. And if this price doesn't touch then I will hold Bitcoin till the next bull season.
Because currently, Bitcoin has only passed four halvings, there are more left, so holding can be continued. Although no one can talk about emergency situations, I always try to keep a separate fund arrangement for emergency situations so that I don't have to touch my holding bitcoins.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: doc on September 27, 2024, 10:52:07 PM
I actually still don't understand what you mean by big bull season because I think the bull season has not started yet. I will call this situation bullish market. I don't understand big bull season but my expectation is that coin will touch atleast 100k this season. And if this price doesn't touch then I will hold Bitcoin till the next bull season.
Because currently, Bitcoin has only passed four halvings, there are more left, so holding can be continued. Although no one can talk about emergency situations, I always try to keep a separate fund arrangement for emergency situations so that I don't have to touch my holding bitcoins.
Bull run is likely to happen next year, and at that time we can sell our bitcoin. I also targeted to sell bitcoin at $100K, and I still have confidence that $100K will happen next year. We will likely see another correction, so we have to be patient if we target to sell at that number, $100k
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: Axcel777 on October 29, 2024, 05:44:26 PM
I actually still don't understand what you mean by big bull season because I think the bull season has not started yet. I will call this situation bullish market. I don't understand big bull season but my expectation is that coin will touch atleast 100k this season. And if this price doesn't touch then I will hold Bitcoin till the next bull season.
Because currently, Bitcoin has only passed four halvings, there are more left, so holding can be continued. Although no one can talk about emergency situations, I always try to keep a separate fund arrangement for emergency situations so that I don't have to touch my holding bitcoins.
Bull run is likely to happen next year, and at that time we can sell our bitcoin. I also targeted to sell bitcoin at $100K, and I still have confidence that $100K will happen next year. We will likely see another correction, so we have to be patient if we target to sell at that number, $100k
We expect the coming year to be a good year and holds the prospects for a rally that will see our price target of $100K per Bitcoin realised. As the momentum builds in the market, there is discontent to reach that value.

Even though there could be some adjustments, more especially relating to certain output, the ingredients that will shape this process are; patience and doggedness. We keep our attention on the most promising opportunities which can provide the highest outcome with regard to the specified investment objectives.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: Faisal2202 on October 31, 2024, 07:04:10 PM
Let's not pretend too much about some things, the majority "love" BTC because they believe it will bring them profit, the few appreciate it because it is a cryptocurrency with which they can make transactions anytime and with anyone.

What everyone expects to happen in the year of the halving is a big bull run that, if nothing else, will at least double the price of BTC, and somehow most people take that for granted - but the real question is how will people react if something like that doesn't happen?

Give your honest answers in the pool ;)
I don't hope and predict from BTC to make another 2x at the moment I know the post is old but still the price difference is not so big like its a price difference of few grands but yeah the sentiments are fully changed now but that's not going to remain for too long (like till 5th Nov).

I believe BTC might touch $90k and that's the maximum I expect from BTC so it's not going to touch $120k or $100k even IMO but I might be wrong as its just my observation. We must be optimistic about the future and in the long run we will see BTC touching $180k too and at that time it will be making us more than it is making now (obviously) so I voted that I might hold onto my money (as if I don't come to need my money).
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on October 31, 2024, 07:17:42 PM
There is nothing impossible with this current dispensation, but i don't have to also on the same vein believe that bitcoin is not going to make it to all time high, because everything concerning it has turned inevitable, the continued adoption rate, increase in it value as well as the way of it acceptance in making payments, not to go about talking on the security and trust that can be found in using a decentralized digital currency, all these alone are enough to know why we must always reach an all time high during or after the bullrun
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: libert19 on November 01, 2024, 09:02:02 AM
I don't really care, my coins will stay as they are (I have little holdings in BTC, rest in alt), understandably some of them will go bust by next bull run arrives. But I have been in similar situation before, seeing plenty paper profits vanish into thin air — yes I regretted for a while, now I laugh about it. So, I know it'll be fine.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: Lucius on November 01, 2024, 04:27:59 PM
~snip~
I believe BTC might touch $90k and that's the maximum I expect from BTC so it's not going to touch $120k or $100k even IMO but I might be wrong as its just my observation.


Maybe you're right, maybe not - one day we'll find out. I'm still a little more optimistic and think there's a good chance we'll reach $100k + even by the end of this year, although it seems realistic to me during the next year. These days, spot ETFs inflows have practically reached values ​​that were seen only at the beginning of this year, and this may mean that something big is happening - although many speculate that people are just optimistic about the US presidential elections.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: Faisal2202 on November 01, 2024, 07:06:19 PM
Maybe you're right, maybe not - one day we'll find out. I'm still a little more optimistic and think there's a good chance we'll reach $100k + even by the end of this year, although it seems realistic to me during the next year. These days, spot ETFs inflows have practically reached values ​​that were seen only at the beginning of this year, and this may mean that something big is happening - although many speculate that people are just optimistic about the US presidential elections.
I was not so optimistic but alone me can't really make a big difference as most of the people are optimistic about the election so it's better to speculate on this sentiment to make short term profit. I will find out one day and let's hope for good, I hope it as usual outperforms our expectations like mine was $90k and yours are $100k.

I even thought it would make new ATH before the election results but I think I was being too optimistic here. Now all the discussions are about how high it will go means the topic title was concerns about either it will happen or not, so the short story is it will happen but to what extent and when is not something we sure of.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: Hisbullah on November 01, 2024, 07:18:03 PM
~snip~
I believe BTC might touch $90k and that's the maximum I expect from BTC so it's not going to touch $120k or $100k even IMO but I might be wrong as its just my observation.


Maybe you're right, maybe not - one day we'll find out. I'm still a little more optimistic and think there's a good chance we'll reach $100k + even by the end of this year, although it seems realistic to me during the next year. These days, spot ETFs inflows have practically reached values ​​that were seen only at the beginning of this year, and this may mean that something big is happening - although many speculate that people are just optimistic about the US presidential elections.
I am also still optimistic that the price of Bitcoin will reach $ 100K, but it will not happen this year because the possibility of Bitcoin price of more than $ 100K will occur next year, possibly in Q1 next year.
The results of the US presidential election are always the awaited news and that will also be one of the factors for the increase in Bitdoin prices at the end of this year if the results of the presidential election as expected, Trump will win.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: milewilda on November 01, 2024, 07:56:29 PM
~snip~
I believe BTC might touch $90k and that's the maximum I expect from BTC so it's not going to touch $120k or $100k even IMO but I might be wrong as its just my observation.


Maybe you're right, maybe not - one day we'll find out. I'm still a little more optimistic and think there's a good chance we'll reach $100k + even by the end of this year, although it seems realistic to me during the next year. These days, spot ETFs inflows have practically reached values ​​that were seen only at the beginning of this year, and this may mean that something big is happening - although many speculate that people are just optimistic about the US presidential elections.
I am also still optimistic that the price of Bitcoin will reach $ 100K, but it will not happen this year because the possibility of Bitcoin price of more than $ 100K will occur next year, possibly in Q1 next year.
The results of the US presidential election are always the awaited news and that will also be one of the factors for the increase in Bitdoin prices at the end of this year if the results of the presidential election as expected, Trump will win.
Just go with the flow and you wont really be bothering yourself too much if you are really just that investing on the amount that you can afford to lose. Come to think that we've been that
knowing that cryptocurrency prices are really that volatile and there's no way that we could really be able to tell on where it would really be that heading. So instead on trying to look into the charts on active manner, then why you cant just simply that still buy or sell according into your needs or something that that tells you on doing so?
We are all here on profit but we cant be able to ignore about the possibilities and risks that lies ahead. So better be that having that kind of versatility.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: doc on November 02, 2024, 07:33:02 AM
~snip~
I believe BTC might touch $90k and that's the maximum I expect from BTC so it's not going to touch $120k or $100k even IMO but I might be wrong as its just my observation.


Maybe you're right, maybe not - one day we'll find out. I'm still a little more optimistic and think there's a good chance we'll reach $100k + even by the end of this year, although it seems realistic to me during the next year. These days, spot ETFs inflows have practically reached values ​​that were seen only at the beginning of this year, and this may mean that something big is happening - although many speculate that people are just optimistic about the US presidential elections.
I am also still optimistic that the price of Bitcoin will reach $ 100K, but it will not happen this year because the possibility of Bitcoin price of more than $ 100K will occur next year, possibly in Q1 next year.
The results of the US presidential election are always the awaited news and that will also be one of the factors for the increase in Bitdoin prices at the end of this year if the results of the presidential election as expected, Trump will win.
Just go with the flow and you wont really be bothering yourself too much if you are really just that investing on the amount that you can afford to lose. Come to think that we've been that
knowing that cryptocurrency prices are really that volatile and there's no way that we could really be able to tell on where it would really be that heading. So instead on trying to look into the charts on active manner, then why you cant just simply that still buy or sell according into your needs or something that that tells you on doing so?
We are all here on profit but we cant be able to ignore about the possibilities and risks that lies ahead. So better be that having that kind of versatility.
You are right in investing in crypto we have to be prepared for any situation because the crypto market is very volatile and we have to use funds that we can afford to lose because we don't know what will happen, but in my opinion if we invest in bitcoin and top altcoins it seems our capital will be safe if held until next year. I have a target to sell bitcoin at a price of more than $ 100K, but I can change my selling target if the market next year is not as we want.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: Faisal2202 on November 02, 2024, 05:53:10 PM
I am also still optimistic that the price of Bitcoin will reach $ 100K, but it will not happen this year because the possibility of Bitcoin price of more than $ 100K will occur next year, possibly in Q1 next year.
The results of the US presidential election are always the awaited news and that will also be one of the factors for the increase in Bitdoin prices at the end of this year if the results of the presidential election as expected, Trump will win.
This year or next year does not matter as only few months has left the point is bull run must come and it might pump BTC to new heights like till $100k although many people are bullish about it touching $100k but I don't because I think even the ETF inflow is not enough to pump the market and I thought it will make new ATH before the elections but I was wrong too.

Now market will only make move when Trump will wins and I think he might win the elections. Because IMO all of the crypto lovers will vote him in stead of voting any other candidiate.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: MUGNIA on November 02, 2024, 09:50:40 PM
There is definitely a feeling of disappointment, but what can I do, this session might be bitter if the bull run fails to come, where the purpose of having BTC is to make a profit, I personally will wait for that mass because I believe BTC can create a higher price than before without having to bull run again,
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: MRY on November 03, 2024, 11:53:49 AM
There is definitely a feeling of disappointment, but what can I do, this session might be bitter if the bull run fails to come, where the purpose of having BTC is to make a profit, I personally will wait for that mass because I believe BTC can create a higher price than before without having to bull run again,
In fact, this is how Bitcoin makes the investment feel like an uncertain roller coaster and basing profits on the bull runs is still a waiting game. There are no such assurances, of course, but faith in Bitcoin’s future, and thus possibility of a repeat of such massive sales, is a reason for us to wait patiently. In most of the situations, the price of Bitcoin increases even when it cannot be considered as a drastic move in the BTC means that Bitcoin has the potential to move up progressively. It is for this reason that many people are confident that the Bitcoin price will rise higher still if the need arises yet with out having to push it up by doing a bull run. Unfortunately, with this patience and belief we are also able to see positive prospects even in what seems to be fluctuations.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: Faisal2202 on November 05, 2024, 04:13:32 PM
You are right in investing in crypto we have to be prepared for any situation because the crypto market is very volatile and we have to use funds that we can afford to lose because we don't know what will happen, but in my opinion if we invest in bitcoin and top altcoins it seems our capital will be safe if held until next year. I have a target to sell bitcoin at a price of more than $ 100K, but I can change my selling target if the market next year is not as we want.
Thanks for sharing your plans on your investments as it gave some idea to others like me as well of what I should be doing. I think to maximize the profits and keep us safe at the same time we must do booking of our profits in parts like you are planning to book on $100k and I think we should (not a suggestion but a thought) book in parts when BTC hits $90k.

There is the possibility that it won't touch $100k in this bull run. Booking profit and then using it again for buying is the plan I am looking forward to. Whenever we are investing in any coin, we must invest with the money that we don't fear to lose.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: Lucius on November 05, 2024, 06:04:47 PM
~snip~
There is the possibility that it won't touch $100k in this bull run. Booking profit and then using it again for buying is the plan I am looking forward to. Whenever we are investing in any coin, we must invest with the money that we don't fear to lose.


All options are possible, although it would really be quite strange if we don't reach at least $100k in this cycle - because that would mean that the halving no longer has an impact on the price. I would say that the chances that a big bull run will happen are about 70%, while there is a 30% (which is still a lot) chance that it will not happen.

It should be kept in mind that from this year we also have spot ETFs in the equation - and the amount of BTC that investors bought through in less than a year is impressive. Of course, such funds also have their negatives (risks), given that only Fidelity (if I'm not mistaken) has self-custody, while all the others use custody options.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: Themepen on November 05, 2024, 06:14:41 PM
In fact, this is how Bitcoin makes the investment feel like an uncertain roller coaster and basing profits on the bull runs is still a waiting game. There are no such assurances, of course, but faith in Bitcoin’s future, and thus possibility of a repeat of such massive sales, is a reason for us to wait patiently. In most of the situations, the price of Bitcoin increases even when it cannot be considered as a drastic move in the BTC means that Bitcoin has the potential to move up progressively. It is for this reason that many people are confident that the Bitcoin price will rise higher still if the need arises yet with out having to push it up by doing a bull run. Unfortunately, with this patience and belief we are also able to see positive prospects even in what seems to be fluctuations.
Investing in Bitcoin can be unpredictable and risky but many experts think it is worth it because they believe its value will increase in long run. By the way there are no guarantees investors are hopeful about Bitcoin future and wait patiently. Historically, Bitcoin price has gone up over time showing it has potential for continued growth. Some predictions say Bitcoin's price could reach $85000 by 2024 and $160000 by 2030. However others think it might drop to $38000 before rising again. Some experts, like Cathie Wood even predict Bitcoin could reach $1.5 million by 2030. So let's see what will happen after US elections and by the end of year.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: nakmantu99 on November 05, 2024, 08:50:33 PM
In fact, this is how Bitcoin makes the investment feel like an uncertain roller coaster and basing profits on the bull runs is still a waiting game. There are no such assurances, of course, but faith in Bitcoin’s future, and thus possibility of a repeat of such massive sales, is a reason for us to wait patiently. In most of the situations, the price of Bitcoin increases even when it cannot be considered as a drastic move in the BTC means that Bitcoin has the potential to move up progressively. It is for this reason that many people are confident that the Bitcoin price will rise higher still if the need arises yet with out having to push it up by doing a bull run. Unfortunately, with this patience and belief we are also able to see positive prospects even in what seems to be fluctuations.
Investing in Bitcoin can be unpredictable and risky but many experts think it is worth it because they believe its value will increase in long run. By the way there are no guarantees investors are hopeful about Bitcoin future and wait patiently. Historically, Bitcoin price has gone up over time showing it has potential for continued growth. Some predictions say Bitcoin's price could reach $85000 by 2024 and $160000 by 2030. However others think it might drop to $38000 before rising again. Some experts, like Cathie Wood even predict Bitcoin could reach $1.5 million by 2030. So let's see what will happen after US elections and by the end of year.
We will see the end of this year, after the US presidential election results we will see the movement of bitcoin prices in the market if the price of bitcoin can reach $ 85K by the end of this year it is likely that bitcoin will touch ATH next year, Q1 or Q2 next year.
Many predictions about the price of bitcoin I only focus on getting reasonable profits and not targeting too high.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: MRY on November 06, 2024, 11:41:26 AM
In fact, this is how Bitcoin makes the investment feel like an uncertain roller coaster and basing profits on the bull runs is still a waiting game. There are no such assurances, of course, but faith in Bitcoin’s future, and thus possibility of a repeat of such massive sales, is a reason for us to wait patiently. In most of the situations, the price of Bitcoin increases even when it cannot be considered as a drastic move in the BTC means that Bitcoin has the potential to move up progressively. It is for this reason that many people are confident that the Bitcoin price will rise higher still if the need arises yet with out having to push it up by doing a bull run. Unfortunately, with this patience and belief we are also able to see positive prospects even in what seems to be fluctuations.
Investing in Bitcoin can be unpredictable and risky but many experts think it is worth it because they believe its value will increase in long run. By the way there are no guarantees investors are hopeful about Bitcoin future and wait patiently. Historically, Bitcoin price has gone up over time showing it has potential for continued growth. Some predictions say Bitcoin's price could reach $85000 by 2024 and $160000 by 2030. However others think it might drop to $38000 before rising again. Some experts, like Cathie Wood even predict Bitcoin could reach $1.5 million by 2030. So let's see what will happen after US elections and by the end of year.
We will see the end of this year, after the US presidential election results we will see the movement of bitcoin prices in the market if the price of bitcoin can reach $ 85K by the end of this year it is likely that bitcoin will touch ATH next year, Q1 or Q2 next year.
Many predictions about the price of bitcoin I only focus on getting reasonable profits and not targeting too high.
Since it is election time in the US, it should be the right time to look for profit because people always have groups of whales to pump the price of Bitcoin up or there may be a team that closes the bottom when there is a feeling of disappointment in one of the candidates. Actually, I like to hold regardless the scenario there is an election or there isn’t because in my strategy I long term Bitcoin.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: Gurujebs on November 06, 2024, 12:56:35 PM
There is definitely a feeling of disappointment, but what can I do, this session might be bitter if the bull run fails to come, where the purpose of having BTC is to make a profit, I personally will wait for that mass because I believe BTC can create a higher price than before without having to bull run again,

Disappoint is a part of blessing they say right. So far, I'm satisfied with what Bitcoin has did so far and judging by the last bullrun, this was the quickest because bull run doesn't happen immediately after the bull run, there is usually a break before another run after the halving but this has never go down since we did halving back in April-May.

I just hope we don't get played with politics, Trump has won as it was predicted and he promised to provide a safe place for crypto in his 100 days in office, I hope he doesn't change his mind later or perhaps stay mute on crypto and focus on the internal matters.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: Faisal2202 on November 06, 2024, 04:36:30 PM
All options are possible, although it would really be quite strange if we don't reach at least $100k in this cycle - because that would mean that the halving no longer has an impact on the price. I would say that the chances that a big bull run will happen are about 70%, while there is a 30% (which is still a lot) chance that it will not happen.

It should be kept in mind that from this year we also have spot ETFs in the equation - and the amount of BTC that investors bought through in less than a year is impressive. Of course, such funds also have their negatives (risks), given that only Fidelity (if I'm not mistaken) has self-custody, while all the others use custody options.
You are right, it would be really strange if BTC would not even touch $100k this year, if we saw how much it made in its last bull runs then we will become 100% confident that it will cross $100k easily. Like in 2017 to 2019 it made an ATH of 20k (If I am not wrong, as I read it on several blogs) and back in 2021 it reach 67k and now it have to make double of what it made in last bull run.

Most people now a days don't care about the nature of the ETF either its custodial or non custodial they will prefer custodial as they don't want to take responsibility of their assets instead they want insurance on their funds that they invested so when anything happens to funds just like other exchanges (MT Gox, FTX etc.) they would get recoveries options.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: Bobcrypto on November 06, 2024, 05:03:13 PM

 I'd be disappointed. What is seemingly a good time to invest because the year is a halving year turned out to be a no profit year. Just thinking about how much time wasted when I could have just invest in gold because its price is more profitable.

When somebody said this election is all about crypto, I thought price could go up because of it. So we still have about few months to find out.

You shouldn't be discouraged on your crypto investments because market has not started moving in your favor, just remember that patience remains the key for all investments. I think with good knowledge about how the market works, you should understand that Bitcoin has a four year circle and within this four years, the market will put up a bullish momentum that will yield a good returns.

In addition, the reason the US election is tie to the crypto market this year is because Donald Trump, one of the presidential candidates has made several promises about bitcoin developments if elected the president. On this note, many crypto enthusiast has been expecting this election to come his to favor, and i know that many people are waiting  upon this hope.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: Lucius on November 06, 2024, 05:20:04 PM
You are right, it would be really strange if BTC would not even touch $100k this year, if we saw how much it made in its last bull runs then we will become 100% confident that it will cross $100k easily. Like in 2017 to 2019 it made an ATH of 20k (If I am not wrong, as I read it on several blogs) and back in 2021 it reach 67k and now it have to make double of what it made in last bull run.

At the time of the halving in 2016, the price of BTC was around $400, and by the end of that year we had an increase to $1000, and then by the end of 2018, almost $20 000. However, at that time BTC was still under the radar of many investors today - Saylor thought it was on the way to disappear, the guys from Black Rock considered it a money laundering machine (or something similar), and those who supported it in any way did not were popular in the media and in general in their environment if they talked about it.

Most people now a days don't care about the nature of the ETF either its custodial or non custodial they will prefer custodial as they don't want to take responsibility of their assets instead they want insurance on their funds that they invested so when anything happens to funds just like other exchanges (MT Gox, FTX etc.) they would get recoveries options.

Their money, their risk - although I don't consider myself to have BTC if someone else keeps it for me, or if I share private keys with someone - so it all comes down to one company trusting another and hoping that everything will be as agreed. I hope that those who keep BTC for ETFs will not become victims of hacking, because then there will be chaos for which Mt.Gox and FTX together will be just naughty child's play.

+1
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: NotATether on November 07, 2024, 10:43:00 AM
You are right, it would be really strange if BTC would not even touch $100k this year, if we saw how much it made in its last bull runs then we will become 100% confident that it will cross $100k easily. Like in 2017 to 2019 it made an ATH of 20k (If I am not wrong, as I read it on several blogs) and back in 2021 it reach 67k and now it have to make double of what it made in last bull run.

At the time of the halving in 2016, the price of BTC was around $400, and by the end of that year we had an increase to $1000, and then by the end of 2018, almost $20 000. However, at that time BTC was still under the radar of many investors today - Saylor thought it was on the way to disappear, the guys from Black Rock considered it a money laundering machine (or something similar), and those who supported it in any way did not were popular in the media and in general in their environment if they talked about it.

Well, the big bad bull run is here, and it's taking everyone with it whether they like it or not. :)

Did anyone really think that a bull run would not happen soon? Seriously?

2017/2018 was an anomaly, however, considering that Bitcoin went all the way to $17000 or something, almost to $18000, and then lost most of that value in a few weeks. But it has later been proven that it is not the norm.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: Faisal2202 on November 07, 2024, 05:04:20 PM
At the time of the halving in 2016, the price of BTC was around $400, and by the end of that year we had an increase to $1000, and then by the end of 2018, almost $20 000. However, at that time BTC was still under the radar of many investors today - Saylor thought it was on the way to disappear, the guys from Black Rock considered it a money laundering machine (or something similar), and those who supported it in any way did not were popular in the media and in general in their environment if they talked about it.
I did not see the 2018 bull run,, so I don't know much about it, I just can't get rid of this feeling now that in 2016 1 BTC was worth only $400. I mean, that's not too old, I was in my full consciousness then, if I had this much knowledge that time then I must have taken a loan even to take entries. I don't know the future now but I am sure we will see the same results (maybe a little less) in upcoming bull runs but don't know what's stopping me to take loan now to invest. These people were not supporting BTC and it grew this much and now these influential parties are invested and interested in BTC, it means BTC will definitely grow more.
Their money, their risk - although I don't consider myself to have BTC if someone else keeps it for me, or if I share private keys with someone - so it all comes down to one company trusting another and hoping that everything will be as agreed. I hope that those who keep BTC for ETFs will not become victims of hacking, because then there will be chaos for which Mt.Gox and FTX together will be just naughty child's play.
If they become victims of hacking, I think ETF platforms have to provide their users with money like FTX has assured they will repay the victims. But yeah these ETF platforms have inflow in billions and the amount is too big that if they got hacked then a big chaos will come.  +1
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: Lucius on November 07, 2024, 05:54:33 PM
~snip~
2017/2018 was an anomaly, however, considering that Bitcoin went all the way to $17000 or something, almost to $18000, and then lost most of that value
in a few weeks. But it has later been proven that it is not the norm.

I wouldn't call it an anomaly, unless you go back even further and also call an anomaly what happened after the first halving when the price crossed $1000 for the first time. What happened in 2017 was just a continuation of the great expectations that were further fueled by the huge influx of money that went in the direction of cryptocurrencies and the great media hype that only added fuel to the fire.



I did not see the 2018 bull run,, so I don't know much about it, I just can't get rid of this feeling now that in 2016 1 BTC was worth only $400. I mean, that's not too old, I was in my full consciousness then, if I had this much knowledge that time then I must have taken a loan even to take entries. I don't know the future now but I am sure we will see the same results (maybe a little less) in upcoming bull runs but don't know what's stopping me to take loan now to invest. These people were not supporting BTC and it grew this much and now these influential parties are invested and interested in BTC, it means BTC will definitely grow more.
~snip~


If you go back just 1 year, you would see that during the whole year the price was just above $200, and I remember very well that back then I could collect 1BTC in a couple of months only through faucets and that in a very easy way without any short links and similar nonsense. Back then, many people said that BTC would never reach $1000 again and that it was actually game over - but today we see how wrong they were.

Therefore, although I am a realist and I don't really like some random speculation about the price, I will just say that in 10 years I will not be at all surprised if 1 BTC is worth ten times more than today. Of course, $700 000 is a very large amount for 1 BTC, but it should also be taken into account that the purchasing power of that money will be considerably less than today.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: target on November 09, 2024, 03:53:26 PM

 I'd be disappointed. What is seemingly a good time to invest because the year is a halving year turned out to be a no profit year. Just thinking about how much time wasted when I could have just invest in gold because its price is more profitable.

When somebody said this election is all about crypto, I thought price could go up because of it. So we still have about few months to find out.

You shouldn't be discouraged on your crypto investments because market has not started moving in your favor, just remember that patience remains the key for all investments. I think with good knowledge about how the market works, you should understand that Bitcoin has a four year circle and within this four years, the market will put up a bullish momentum that will yield a good returns.

In addition, the reason the US election is tie to the crypto market this year is because Donald Trump, one of the presidential candidates has made several promises about bitcoin developments if elected the president. On this note, many crypto enthusiast has been expecting this election to come his to favor, and i know that many people are waiting  upon this hope.

It hasn't reached the 100k yet but it's worth it now. Crypto market place will not disappoint us in the long run I was just thinking if the big bull run won't come as described by OP.

It could come to a point an investor will fold their card when disappointed for a extended period of time and not meeting the expectation. The short term investor would actually give up when nothing is happening, it will just be what kind of investor we are.


Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: satpol_PP on November 09, 2024, 09:59:47 PM

 I'd be disappointed. What is seemingly a good time to invest because the year is a halving year turned out to be a no profit year. Just thinking about how much time wasted when I could have just invest in gold because its price is more profitable.

When somebody said this election is all about crypto, I thought price could go up because of it. So we still have about few months to find out.

You shouldn't be discouraged on your crypto investments because market has not started moving in your favor, just remember that patience remains the key for all investments. I think with good knowledge about how the market works, you should understand that Bitcoin has a four year circle and within this four years, the market will put up a bullish momentum that will yield a good returns.

In addition, the reason the US election is tie to the crypto market this year is because Donald Trump, one of the presidential candidates has made several promises about bitcoin developments if elected the president. On this note, many crypto enthusiast has been expecting this election to come his to favor, and i know that many people are waiting  upon this hope.

It hasn't reached the 100k yet but it's worth it now. Crypto market place will not disappoint us in the long run I was just thinking if the big bull run won't come as described by OP.

It could come to a point an investor will fold their card when disappointed for a extended period of time and not meeting the expectation. The short term investor would actually give up when nothing is happening, it will just be what kind of investor we are.
If you buy bitcoin and have a plan to invest, the most suitable is long-term investment. Be patient and always calm in facing the highly volatile crypto market, we don't need to be disappointed when the crypto market goes down because the market will go up again. That's the habit of the crypto market that makes many investors interested in investing in crypto.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: Blaze on November 11, 2024, 11:59:14 PM

 I'd be disappointed. What is seemingly a good time to invest because the year is a halving year turned out to be a no profit year. Just thinking about how much time wasted when I could have just invest in gold because its price is more profitable.

When somebody said this election is all about crypto, I thought price could go up because of it. So we still have about few months to find out.

You shouldn't be discouraged on your crypto investments because market has not started moving in your favor, just remember that patience remains the key for all investments. I think with good knowledge about how the market works, you should understand that Bitcoin has a four year circle and within this four years, the market will put up a bullish momentum that will yield a good returns.

In addition, the reason the US election is tie to the crypto market this year is because Donald Trump, one of the presidential candidates has made several promises about bitcoin developments if elected the president. On this note, many crypto enthusiast has been expecting this election to come his to favor, and i know that many people are waiting  upon this hope.

It hasn't reached the 100k yet but it's worth it now. Crypto market place will not disappoint us in the long run I was just thinking if the big bull run won't come as described by OP.

It could come to a point an investor will fold their card when disappointed for a extended period of time and not meeting the expectation. The short term investor would actually give up when nothing is happening, it will just be what kind of investor we are.
If you buy bitcoin and have a plan to invest, the most suitable is long-term investment. Be patient and always calm in facing the highly volatile crypto market, we don't need to be disappointed when the crypto market goes down because the market will go up again. That's the habit of the crypto market that makes many investors interested in investing in crypto.
That is right to say that Bitcoin is more appropriate to invest if we have long-term perspective and high level of patience. During this investment period, patience is highly important since volatile trends in the market are characteristic of high volatility at times. This is because we do not have to act erratically and without caution whenever the market dwindles, but at the same time get to have more opportunities and expand when the market starts to gain strength again and starts to boom. But swings like this are familiar and are, in fact the primary reason many investors still maintain hope and faith in the future of crypto given that always opportunities that come over time.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: Lucius on November 16, 2024, 06:29:40 PM
That is right to say that Bitcoin is more appropriate to invest if we have long-term perspective and high level of patience. During this investment period, patience is highly important since volatile trends in the market are characteristic of high volatility at times.
~snip~


If you invest money that you are ready to lose at any moment and you do not need that money for everyday living expenses, then it is much easier to endure periods of price correction and bear markets. If, in addition to all that, you understand Bitcoin in its most essential basics, then you will not have those basic doubts and fears that run through the market every time the same market finds itself in the red.

Bitcoin is not for those who act like children and are fascinated at one moment because they "profit" 10% in one day, and are in total panic when they "lose" 5% the next day.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: SamReomo on November 16, 2024, 06:41:10 PM
Bitcoin is not for those who act like children and are fascinated at one moment because they "profit" 10% in one day, and are in total panic when they "lose" 5% the next day.
Very true, Bitcoin is mainly for Hodlers who hold their investment and make profits from it when it goes 100% up or more, and some people are even Hodling it for long term like 5 to 10 years. Although, the traders do make profit when Bitcoin moves up 5% or more and some traders just want it to move 1% and they use compounding to grow their capital but the best way to see Bitcoin is by Holding it not trading it for 1% to 10% gain.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: Bobcrypto on November 16, 2024, 07:35:26 PM
Bitcoin is not for those who act like children and are fascinated at one moment because they "profit" 10% in one day, and are in total panic when they "lose" 5% the next day.
Very true, Bitcoin is mainly for Hodlers who hold their investment and make profits from it when it goes 100% up or more, and some people are even Hodling it for long term like 5 to 10 years. Although, the traders do make profit when Bitcoin moves up 5% or more and some traders just want it to move 1% and they use compounding to grow their capital but the best way to see Bitcoin is by Holding it not trading it for 1% to 10% gain.

As a matter of facts Bitcoin is for everyone, investors, traders, Holders, and online users. Traders, Holders, investors are part takers of the Bitcoin ecosystem and there  no proven facts among these three group of persons that is most important.
As a trader, I feel that traders activities help the crypto market uptrends, through regular demands, however Holders can also proof that they're the major market makers, while the investor could claim to be the major market movers through their consistency investments. I think that these group of users are very important, and they coesist on the Bitcoin ecosystem to boost market price, growth and developments.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: doc on November 16, 2024, 10:38:10 PM
Bitcoin is not for those who act like children and are fascinated at one moment because they "profit" 10% in one day, and are in total panic when they "lose" 5% the next day.
Very true, Bitcoin is mainly for Hodlers who hold their investment and make profits from it when it goes 100% up or more, and some people are even Hodling it for long term like 5 to 10 years. Although, the traders do make profit when Bitcoin moves up 5% or more and some traders just want it to move 1% and they use compounding to grow their capital but the best way to see Bitcoin is by Holding it not trading it for 1% to 10% gain.

As a matter of facts Bitcoin is for everyone, investors, traders, Holders, and online users. Traders, Holders, investors are part takers of the Bitcoin ecosystem and there  no proven facts among these three group of persons that is most important.
As a trader, I feel that traders activities help the crypto market uptrends, through regular demands, however Holders can also proof that they're the major market makers, while the investor could claim to be the major market movers through their consistency investments. I think that these group of users are very important, and they coesist on the Bitcoin ecosystem to boost market price, growth and developments.
All play a good role, as holders, investors and traders they play their respective roles. I am a trader, I play a role as an active person in trading the coin. but actually in trading we see the movement of trading volume will increase if large capital investors buy bitcoins in large quantities to increase bitcoin demand. If demand increases the price of bitcoin will also increase.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: lombok on November 17, 2024, 02:41:16 PM
Bitcoin is not for those who act like children and are fascinated at one moment because they "profit" 10% in one day, and are in total panic when they "lose" 5% the next day.
Very true, Bitcoin is mainly for Hodlers who hold their investment and make profits from it when it goes 100% up or more, and some people are even Hodling it for long term like 5 to 10 years. Although, the traders do make profit when Bitcoin moves up 5% or more and some traders just want it to move 1% and they use compounding to grow their capital but the best way to see Bitcoin is by Holding it not trading it for 1% to 10% gain.

As a matter of facts Bitcoin is for everyone, investors, traders, Holders, and online users. Traders, Holders, investors are part takers of the Bitcoin ecosystem and there  no proven facts among these three group of persons that is most important.
As a trader, I feel that traders activities help the crypto market uptrends, through regular demands, however Holders can also proof that they're the major market makers, while the investor could claim to be the major market movers through their consistency investments. I think that these group of users are very important, and they coesist on the Bitcoin ecosystem to boost market price, growth and developments.
All play a good role, as holders, investors and traders they play their respective roles. I am a trader, I play a role as an active person in trading the coin. but actually in trading we see the movement of trading volume will increase if large capital investors buy bitcoins in large quantities to increase bitcoin demand. If demand increases the price of bitcoin will also increase.
Every participant in the crypto market makes a colossal impact on market volatility. Being traders, our main advantage is that we can react immediately to the changes in the market and also react to fluctuating prices. This role gets even more important in managing the increased activity seen in the level of trading volumes. The relationship between big buyers and the market give both benefits and drawbacks on where we are capable to work on the approaches applied in our ordinary selling.

But we have to be conscious that prices are not the sum of a single element like demand but is also influenced any other factors like global sentiment, economic news and many other regulatory policies. By this we can enhance the probability of arriving at better decisions due to having understood a larger picture. This enables us not only respond to the market tensions but also better provide the more mature steps on how to sustain the sensible profitability over time.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: dekafee79 on November 17, 2024, 05:52:53 PM
Bitcoin is not for those who act like children and are fascinated at one moment because they "profit" 10% in one day, and are in total panic when they "lose" 5% the next day.
Very true, Bitcoin is mainly for Hodlers who hold their investment and make profits from it when it goes 100% up or more, and some people are even Hodling it for long term like 5 to 10 years. Although, the traders do make profit when Bitcoin moves up 5% or more and some traders just want it to move 1% and they use compounding to grow their capital but the best way to see Bitcoin is by Holding it not trading it for 1% to 10% gain.
I agree with you the best way to profit from bitcoin is to hold it, I choose altcoin to trade instead of bitcoin because I see altcoin is more volatile on certain coins and at certain times.
I also hold my bitcoin, just to hold and sell it during the bullish season. But there are friends who use big capital to trade with bitcoin and they enjoy it. Actually, everyone has their own considerations in seeking profit in the crypto world, and sometimes we have different thoughts and strategies with them, that's normal.
Title: Re: What if the big bull run doesn't happen?
Post by: Lucius on November 18, 2024, 04:27:38 PM
Bitcoin is not for those who act like children and are fascinated at one moment because they "profit" 10% in one day, and are in total panic when they "lose" 5% the next day.
Very true, Bitcoin is mainly for Hodlers who hold their investment and make profits from it when it goes 100% up or more, and some people are even Hodling it for long term like 5 to 10 years. Although, the traders do make profit when Bitcoin moves up 5% or more and some traders just want it to move 1% and they use compounding to grow their capital but the best way to see Bitcoin is by Holding it not trading it for 1% to 10% gain.

I would like to point out that BTC is not only for those who invest in it only for profit, but also for those who use it as a cryptocurrency and a hedge against inflation and the loss of value of their national currencies.

However, everyone chooses their own way of using BTC, and the combination of all that ultimately results in its value, which we see over the years. Despite the doubts that always exist, it seems that BTC will not disappoint even this year/next year :)