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Crypto Discussion Forum => Forum related => Suggestion Box => Topic started by: Lucius on October 05, 2024, 03:38:35 PM
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Given that we have a lot of badges on this forum and that adding new ones is obviously not a problem for the administration, I would suggest that we add a new one that would be temporarily awarded every month to the user who received the most +karma in the past month. Apart from the fact that it would in some way be a recognition for that user, it would certainly motivate other members to try even harder and try to win that badge.
It's no secret that this idea occurred to me because I received the most +karma for last month - but if the proposal were to be accepted, I suggest that the badges be awarded only from next month.
For the official result, we can use the @PX-Z tool -> AltcoinsTalks Top Karma Earners (Monthly Edition) (https://pxzone.online/altt/karma-log)
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Yes support this proposal why not, I don't see how this could be a bad thing at least. I'd be willing to update the user monthly to avoid adding any extra longer-term duties for admin.
adding new ones is obviously not a problem for the administration
Worth pointing out that badges take time to be created though. Last I remember they are created by a third party graphic designer while following the general style of the forum badges. We're still waiting on a dev badge for example which has taken sometime, so while I think this is a good suggestion, it might take a while to implement if approved by admin.
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I like the idea Lucius and, like dragononcrypto, you have my support. I also hope that other users support your idea and that the administrator accepts it (I don't think there will be any problem) but as dragononcrypto says, we will probably have to wait a while until we can see the badge in user profiles, especially if it must be designed by someone outside the forum.
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dragononcrypto & Freemind, thanks for the support - I believe that any additional motivation is welcome - although I didn't know that the badges were so "complicated" in the sense that they are made by someone outside the forum. Somehow it seemed to me that the admin had his own role in this, considering the frequent changes in the forum logo on the occasion of various events that the forum marked.
Anyway, the idea is here, so we can only hope that one day it will come to life :)
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dragononcrypto & Freemind, thanks for the support - I believe that any additional motivation is welcome - although I didn't know that the badges were so "complicated" in the sense that they are made by someone outside the forum. Somehow it seemed to me that the admin had his own role in this, considering the frequent changes in the forum logo on the occasion of various events that the forum marked.
Anyway, the idea is here, so we can only hope that one day it will come to life :)
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From what dragononcrypto said, the "problem" was with the dev badge, but he doesn't mention other badges, so I don't understand what the problem could be, since as you say, the administrator has changed the forum logo many times. I hope that one of them can provide more information on this topic and that your suggestion is accepted.
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I like the idea but it might be hard to track down the Karma earned users list every month unless we use a third-party tool like https://pxzone.online/altt/karma-log?sort=default
And only for the highest karma earner that might make it the rarest badge on this forum so I would say be more generous and award it to the top 5 or 10. :)
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If you can only win the badge one time.
But lead say four months in a year.
what happens the three months that you won. do you give the badge to number two.
and if number two also won three third place wins.
see where am going? after a year do we get 12 badges.
or do only the real leader get a badge so if lucius leads in oct nov and dec.
he gets one and no one else gets one.
I think it needs to be a fixed number which means you win the badge if you get 25 merits in a month and there could be six or eight or ten winners for the month.
I like the idea and gave the op a karma.
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To simplify things, just a "Top Karma Earner" badge that is given to members who got the most karma per month would make the most sense here. If it were awarded to the top 2-3-10 users, it would end up too many users and would dilute the meaning of the badge. Ideally only a handful of users would have this badge, based on the usual top karma earners. Having one badge that changes from user to user per month also sounds like unnecessary maintenance from mod perspective, it'd be better that there is a badge that is earnt and kept. It would mean up to 12 badges distributed per year, but the likelihood is that only a few would earn it per year (based on the usual names at the top of the list). Maybe it'd even encourage healthy competition for the top spot, who knows.
I don't think there should be a badge for users who simply earnt 25/30/50 karma per month... that's kind of like, irrelevant imo.
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To simplify things, just a "Top Karma Earner" badge that is given to members who got the most karma per month would make the most sense here.
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That's the idea from the very beginning - the badge would go to the user who gets the most karma every month - but we could, for example, have a special karma badge for the one who wins in x months. The number of months could be 10 or 12, so that would be a not-so-easy achievement.
By the way, are there any indications that this idea might catch on?
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To simplify things, just a "Top Karma Earner" badge that is given to members who got the most karma per month would make the most sense here.
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That's the idea from the very beginning - the badge would go to the user who gets the most karma every month
But I mean a permanent badge, not temporary, that eventually more than one user would have. Changing the user once a month sounds like too much work in hindsight.
By the way, are there any indications that this idea might catch on?
No not really! Admin is still busy testing karma associated to post (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=324891.0), so to him this proposal is probably considered a non-important pointless badge :)
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By the way, are there any indications that this idea might catch on?
As dragononcrypto says, the admin is working on other things that have been in higher demand among users, but let me tell you one thing. Hope is the last thing that is lost, and as proof I will tell you that three years after I made a suggestion (associating + Karma to rank) it is now when the suggestion begins to move a little among users.. The only thing I can tell you is, patience.
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To simplify things, just a "Top Karma Earner" badge that is given to members who got the most karma per month would make the most sense here.
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That's the idea from the very beginning - the badge would go to the user who gets the most karma every month - but we could, for example, have a special karma badge for the one who wins in x months. The number of months could be 10 or 12, so that would be a not-so-easy achievement.
By the way, are there any indications that this idea might catch on?
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I get that you want it to be more exclusive. My issue is since no one gets 2 or more of the same badge we need a system for people that win 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 months.
I guess there could be a
1 karma win badge
5 karma win badge
10 karma win badge
25 karma win badge
so the system could carry on when someone wins over and over and over.
I frankly would prefer a
25 karma month
50 karma month
100 karma month
but I do like the idea of a karma badge in general
Still if the 5 or 10 guys always finish first it will get a bit boring for the other member.
lets say 100 karma leads most of the time.
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But I mean a permanent badge, not temporary, that eventually more than one user would have. Changing the user once a month sounds like too much work in hindsight.
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I thought we were on the same page regarding that, considering that you wrote earlier that you would take over that job - I think that something like that should not take more than 1-2 minutes every month.
Yes support this proposal why not, I don't see how this could be a bad thing at least. I'd be willing to update the user monthly to avoid adding any extra longer-term duties for admin.
As dragononcrypto says, the admin is working on other things that have been in higher demand among users, but let me tell you one thing. Hope is the last thing that is lost, and as proof I will tell you that three years after I made a suggestion (associating + Karma to rank) it is now when the suggestion begins to move a little among users.. The only thing I can tell you is, patience.
I'm not impatient, on the contrary - and personally I wouldn't have touched this topic if it hadn't been raised by another member. Considering other, much more serious things, a badge really seems trivial :)
@philipma1957, this was an idea more for fun and maybe a little motivation for someone to win something unique every month. I thought when there are already so many badges for everything and anything, one more in a row shouldn't be a problem, right?
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I believe Altcoinstalk's administrator is quite flexible. He is very active, listens to what the community has to say, and is always open to suggestions. Since the forum already has a lot of badges, ranks, and icons, (literally every day, I see new badges which I never saw), I don't think adding one more badge will be any problem.
I support your idea.
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I'm not impatient, on the contrary - and personally I wouldn't have touched this topic if it hadn't been raised by another member. Considering other, much more serious things, a badge really seems trivial :)
I don't think it's trivial or not, not everything is going to be serious things. I think there's always room (when we have time) to do fun things on the forum that make users smile, and I also think it's necessary for mental health. So don't worry, I'll check this thread from time to time so that when the admin has time, he can take a look and see how to make things.
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Given that we have a lot of badges on this forum and that adding new ones is obviously not a problem for the administration, I would suggest that we add a new one that would be temporarily awarded every month to the user who received the most +karma in the past month. Apart from the fact that it would in some way be a recognition for that user, it would certainly motivate other members to try even harder and try to win that badge.
It's no secret that this idea occurred to me because I received the most +karma for last month - but if the proposal were to be accepted, I suggest that the badges be awarded only from next month.
For the official result, we can use the @PX-Z tool -> AltcoinsTalks Top Karma Earners (Monthly Edition) (https://pxzone.online/altt/karma-log)
I think this is a problem when the admin/mods can give multiple karma , like 50+ in a single transaction. While other users can only give 1.
This would be basically someone chosen by the admin to get the badge...
If we had multiple "Karma sources" like in BTT, things would be different imo.
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I think this is a problem when the admin/mods can give multiple karma , like 50+ in a single transaction. While other users can only give 1.
It's only admin and president that give multiple karma in a single transactions, not mods. Admin rarely gives out multiple karma, and president was elected, so I think that's a fair privilege.
If we had multiple "Karma sources" like in BTT, things would be different imo.
While I see the suggestion you are trying to make, we do infact have multiple karma sources, they are all the users who are Senior above. Again, this isn't like BTT, because karma doesn't run out. If there were no merit sources at BTT, then the merit would run out. There are no official "karma sources", and yet karma continues to be issued. I otherwise don't think the solution is to further centralise the distribution of karma among an even smaller group, which is effectively what would happen with these so-called sources. That's the major flaw in the merit system which we should be avoiding, not adopting.
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I think this is a problem when the admin/mods can give multiple karma , like 50+ in a single transaction. While other users can only give 1.
It's only admin and president that give multiple karma in a single transactions, not mods. Admin rarely gives out multiple karma, and president was elected, so I think that's a fair privilege.
Even worse imo. So, the badge would be basically given each month by the admin or the president.
If we had multiple "Karma sources" like in BTT, things would be different imo.
While I see the suggestion you are trying to make, we do infact have multiple karma sources, they are all the users who are Senior above. Again, this isn't like BTT, because karma doesn't run out. If there were no merit sources at BTT, then the merit would run out. There are no official "karma sources", and yet karma continues to be issued. I otherwise don't think the solution is to further centralise the distribution of karma among an even smaller group, which is effectively what would happen with these so-called sources. That's the major flaw in the merit system which we should be avoiding, not adopting.
What you are saying is that you are against a decentralization of the karma distribution system.
For now, we have 2 people that can give dozens/hundreds of karma in a single transaction. Adding more users to that list would make it less centralized
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Even worse imo. So, the badge would be basically given each month by the admin or the president.
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I think you are going too far with something that should have been just a little extra motivation for all forum members. That badge would not carry any extra privileges or benefits, but would only be, let's say, a small recognition of the forum to the person who received the most +karma that month.
I don't know why you think the admin or president would manipulate that election by giving someone extra karma just to get that badge?
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I don't know why you think the admin or president would manipulate that election by giving someone extra karma just to get that badge?
I don't think they will manipulate this election.
I just think that the system requires changes to be allow more meritocracy, as it is far too centralized now..
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If we had multiple "Karma sources" like in BTT, things would be different imo.
While I see the suggestion you are trying to make, we do infact have multiple karma sources, they are all the users who are Senior above. Again, this isn't like BTT, because karma doesn't run out. If there were no merit sources at BTT, then the merit would run out. There are no official "karma sources", and yet karma continues to be issued. I otherwise don't think the solution is to further centralise the distribution of karma among an even smaller group, which is effectively what would happen with these so-called sources. That's the major flaw in the merit system which we should be avoiding, not adopting.
What you are saying is that you are against a decentralization of the karma distribution system.
For now, we have 2 people that can give dozens/hundreds of karma in a single transaction. Adding more users to that list would make it less centralized
That's not what I'm saying no and your math doesn't add up here. Based on karma logs, the number of Freemind gives is only a tiny fraction of the total number of karma issued (maybe 1% let's say).
What you are suggesting is having a smaller group of users, even respectable ones, who send what would likely be the majority of karma issued per month. Assuming that with say 50 merit sources (based on 50+ users that have 250+ karma that could be eligible), then suddenly that 1% could easily become 50% or more. Thus, the majority of karma would likely no longer be from all senior+ members, but instead a small (likely unelected) group of users. That would obviously centralize the distribution, not decentralize it.
Even if it were only 20-40% of karma sent, it would centralize a big chunk of the karma to a smaller group than it currently is. Further decentralization would be something like lowering requirements for eligibility to issue karma, to say full members, then there would be more karma sent from users than there currently are, an increase of 63% issuers to be specific.
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Suggesting a new badge does not imply that one of the “rewards” is that the user receives more additional karma simply for receiving the badge. I can't speak for the admin, but when I give Karma (not related to the D.Team) I always give only one positive point.
The recognition itself or the reward, whatever you want to call it, is the badge itself, nothing more.
Any user can get extra Karma by being part of the D.Team, as you all know
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I agree with bitmover's position here. The karma system is quite messy and undefined, and it should be fixed first, and only then introduce new features related to karma points.
I saw that one of the moderators promises +10 karma points for every find of spammers or plagiarists. That's ok, but if the karma badge would raise interest in it, it would probably result in us having more karma hunters.
Since the initiative Proposal: Karma requirements for ranks (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=326311.0) has been launched, I would rather devote myself to that, as well as the "post karma" feature which is in the process of integration.
Maybe I'm not objective, because I'm already too tired of various icons, and badges, and I'm certainly not a fan of adding new badges. So, I would rather dedicate to raising the quality of the forum, than decorating the forum profile.
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I don't know why you think the admin or president would manipulate that election by giving someone extra karma just to get that badge?
I don't think they will manipulate this election.
I just think that the system requires changes to be allow more meritocracy, as it is far too centralized now..
Too centralized? What should we say about the BTT forum then?
Considering the direction in which the discussion went about something that was supposed to be fun and motivating, I am closing this topic and withdrawing the proposal about the new badge.