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Title: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: Penlex_Writer on December 24, 2024, 12:01:04 AM
First; we all must understand that trading is something of patience,we needs more time to study the market,traders losses more because of impatient,greed,and also fear of loosing,the moments you start exhibiting this unethical behaviour in trading you stand the chance to loose than profiting.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: Hatchy on December 24, 2024, 01:58:26 AM
Like I will always say to new traders, don't rush the process, you can't turn into a profitable traders over night. Trading is a marathon not a sprint. We should try to understand the process first before jumping into becoming profitable. Why most traders who have been trading for years still make some unfortunate losses is because they don't manage their risk properly. Risk management help a lot to grow from a small trader to a big one.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: milewilda on December 24, 2024, 03:08:23 AM
First; we all must understand that trading is something of patience,we needs more time to study the market,traders losses more because of impatient,greed,and also fear of loosing,the moments you start exhibiting this unethical behaviour in trading you stand the chance to loose than profiting.
Loses are inevitable on which its normal that you will be able to experience up this stuff because there's no way that you can be profitable always with trading and no matter how good or professional you are but still loses will really be that next in line. So better be at least realistic into the things that you are dealing into because if you do want to be perfect then it will really be just that leading into desperation. This is why its important that you do at least know on the things you've been dealing into. Trading could be handled up well but it will be basing up on how good you are on making trades.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: Asiska02 on December 24, 2024, 05:17:24 AM
First; we all must understand that trading is something of patience,we needs more time to study the market,traders losses more because of impatient,greed,and also fear of loosing,the moments you start exhibiting this unethical behaviour in trading you stand the chance to loose than profiting.

You already answered your question by yourself. Trading is not a get rich quick scheme and so it requires to put in the hardwork, follow the process of becoming better in it gradually. If is sounds too easy to achieve, I don’t think it will be worth it. You need to learn how to have total control of many things when trading and those cannot be achieved within a short time in the market and without you achieving them, you cannot be able to trade the market more efficiently without incurring plenty of losses than you’ll gain when you’ve already mastered the market.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: libert19 on December 24, 2024, 06:25:16 AM
I have noticed this behaviour amongst beginner traders, in any bull market period you can make plenty money without being knowledgeable about trading, the hard part is once this period ends and you continue trading, you'll start losing.

..and I am not sure under which category this behaviour falls in. Is it impatience, greed or fomo?
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: DragonF on December 24, 2024, 09:47:23 AM
Ideally, a beginner should learn the fundamentals of trading before considering making profits from it, but this is not what most beginners do. Most beginners enter trading with the expectation of making money right away. This zeal is understandable given that many traders' primary goal is to profit from trading.

However, gains are derived from learning. Patience is essential for learning. Only a patient beginner will be eager to learn trading from an expert trader. Trading is similar to school; you do not start today and expect to graduate today. It is a gradual process; you must learn before you can gain, and learning often includes losses. 
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: JusticeDeGreat on December 24, 2024, 10:49:46 AM
People loose more in trading than gaining for different reasons, depending on your disposition, courage, and attitude navigating through it. People loose because they do not understand the volatility of the market. People can loose because of fear of going into the market. Sometimes lack of financial planning. Entering the market with all your capital,  without having reserves so that when the market turns out to be unprofitable. You have were to reckon on.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: TomPluz on December 24, 2024, 12:41:54 PM


So why do people lose money in trading? There are many factors that can lead for someone to failure in this endeavor and one reason on that is the lack of preparation as well as lack of emotional control. Of course, one has to learn the basic ins and outs of trading otherwise risks will be standing in the way towards success. One has to develop his strategies and techniques suited to his specific condition and taste and not be easily lead by FOMO - which is so important if one is into crypto trading. Trading can be life-changing if done the right way where the risks are minimized and profits are maximized.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: Findingnemo on December 24, 2024, 02:37:31 PM
Someone has to lose in trading for others to make profits that's how trading works. So if they don't want to be on the losing side it's necessary to practice patience while making the decisions which gives time to assess the situation and act accordingly. People also lose due to the wrong choice of coins, they see a trending coin and go all in by that time the whales will dump it hardly.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: MrSpasybo on December 24, 2024, 04:13:24 PM
First; we all must understand that trading is something of patience,we needs more time to study the market,traders losses more because of impatient,greed,and also fear of loosing,the moments you start exhibiting this unethical behaviour in trading you stand the chance to loose than profiting.
Well, the issue related to profit-loss distribution not only depends on the traders ability, it is the nature of the financial market.

If the majority gains profits, then the market will not have enough money to pay them, if many whales lose, then the whales will leave the market and the market will soon disappear. Conversely, if the majority loses to create profits for the minority, then the market can exist, at the same time, the story of someone becoming rich from crypto will attract attention and encourage more investors to join the market.

Traders participate in the market not with the goal of bringing profits to the majority, but to make it easier for themselves to belong to the minority group that has profits. Psychology management, capital management, and market analysis are the tools for them to achieve that goal.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 24, 2024, 04:29:36 PM
The main reason for this is that they always want to win and as a consequence when they want to win all the time and every operation they focus and it can cause stress when the opposite happens and this is bad because the mentality of a person starting out is strong , if they start to look at social networks and other things, then they realize that this is very relevant and when they see it like that, then they will concentrate only on that part , therefore when they focus on their trades and look for the results of others and they don't get them, then they lose, they have no self-control and they don't have that mentality of what trading really means, trading is winning and losing, what you should try to do is maintain a more positive balance result than negative.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: Azharul on December 24, 2024, 04:54:49 PM
First; we all must understand that trading is something of patience,we needs more time to study the market,traders losses more because of impatient,greed,and also fear of loosing,the moments you start exhibiting this unethical behaviour in trading you stand the chance to loose than profiting.
Trading is one of the best profitable source in crypto currency market. Because we can earn best profit from cryptocurrency market for trading. But we should be understand in cryptocurrency market and trading system. Because if we success in trading, we must remain acquire knowledge for trading. We should study in cryptocurrency world. Because without knowledge in cryptocurrency trading, we must face losses from trading. So knowledge is very important for crypto trading.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: hugeblack on December 24, 2024, 05:26:48 PM
In conclusion, trading should not be unprofitable if your strategy is low risk, so without a clear trading strategy, trading will be a loss, and with a clear and low risk strategy, the profit percentage will most likely be higher.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: _act_ on December 24, 2024, 05:58:09 PM
First; we all must understand that trading is something of patience,we needs more time to study the market,traders losses more because of impatient,greed,and also fear of loosing,the moments you start exhibiting this unethical behaviour in trading you stand the chance to loose than profiting.

Many people going into trading were doing that out of passion and they lack the right understanding to how they should first started, trading is never a big deal to do, but some of us may not really have the idea of running the perfect trading pattern that will make us get it right, its more better not to have started than starting what we don't know about and be on losses at the end of the day.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: ZAINmalik75 on December 24, 2024, 07:35:20 PM
First; we all must understand that trading is something of patience,we needs more time to study the market,traders losses more because of impatient,greed,and also fear of loosing,the moments you start exhibiting this unethical behaviour in trading you stand the chance to loose than profiting.
We should do analysis in all situations like when we are making profit, or loss and do not have funds then we should be making an analysis because a good analysis can bring us good opportunities and that can motivate us to arrange enough capital to invest. For example most of us have BTC and we can sell them to take better profit from alts if a good opportunity will be found.

The deal is we have to make analysis in all situations. After making the trade we should not think that giving a second thought to our analysis is a bad idea although it can create fear of losing or fear of missing out but if you analyze correctly you can build more confident too.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: alltalk on December 24, 2024, 10:23:08 PM
How do you know people tend to lose money than to gain money in trading? Did you hold a research? Or you get the data from a valid source? Kindly enclose the link of the source if you get the data from somewhere.

I think it is quite difficult to determine most people get profits or get losses in trading. I even think we should have a bigger chance for profits because we have so many sources to learn about trading nowadays. We can watch YT videos and read articles from many valid sources. If we have many sources to improve our knowledge and skills in trading, ideally it raises the chance of gaining profits, right? However, I admit that it all depends on the capability of the traders itself.


Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: milewilda on December 25, 2024, 02:37:29 PM
First; we all must understand that trading is something of patience,we needs more time to study the market,traders losses more because of impatient,greed,and also fear of loosing,the moments you start exhibiting this unethical behaviour in trading you stand the chance to loose than profiting.

Many people going into trading were doing that out of passion and they lack the right understanding to how they should first started, trading is never a big deal to do, but some of us may not really have the idea of running the perfect trading pattern that will make us get it right, its more better not to have started than starting what we don't know about and be on losses at the end of the day.
When we are still a noob then we do really that having that high hopes that we can do trading in easy way on which we do really think that we can be able to do the same stuff on what those other traders been able to do on which at the time that you will be doing up some trading then this is where you do make out these kind of realizations that it was never been easy. Its normal for us to have those loses because we do know that there's no such thing about perfect traders or investors on which the market is that unpredictable and there's no way that you can be able to predict on where it would be going. The best thing on here is that you do really know on what you are doing and made out some adjustments accordingly.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: gunhell16 on December 25, 2024, 03:36:27 PM
Some people trade because they think they are capable of making a profit from it, and some people participate, and some people try to trade to experience the feeling of making an actual trade either buy or sell.

Now, all I mentioned is that the majority are stressed because they are not able to obtain passive income from the trading activity they are doing, despite the fact that they have enough knowledge about trading and yet they still make zero profit in the end. And probably, that's because the analysis they are doing is always wrong.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: Faisal2202 on December 25, 2024, 08:09:22 PM
First; we all must understand that trading is something of patience,we needs more time to study the market,traders losses more because of impatient,greed,and also fear of loosing,the moments you start exhibiting this unethical behaviour in trading you stand the chance to loose than profiting.
I can't agree more with you because these points you have discussed are definitely coming from experience, of which I suppose you have a lot. Because as a trader I most lose due to greed and fear of missing out, and TBH I am still fearing to miss out on the profit I am making from my trades in alts because I fear the alts will bleed again.

Besides self-analysis, there are many shows on YT which we should watch to see what coins they are trading and what coins they think will perform well. I won't name any show or person, as it's just an idea to get idea for ourselfs and to get a second opinion on our trades as well to see if we are on the right track otherwise market will show us the right one the hard way hehe.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: satpol_PP on December 25, 2024, 09:32:08 PM
Some people trade because they think they are capable of making a profit from it, and some people participate, and some people try to trade to experience the feeling of making an actual trade either buy or sell.

Now, all I mentioned is that the majority are stressed because they are not able to obtain passive income from the trading activity they are doing, despite the fact that they have enough knowledge about trading and yet they still make zero profit in the end. And probably, that's because the analysis they are doing is always wrong.
Many have been trading for a long time but their ability to make analysis is not right and that is what makes them unable to get passive income.
I am not so focused on trading, I only do it sometimes in my free time.
So trading for me is a way to get additional income, because I also have a business in the real world.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: electronicash on December 25, 2024, 10:08:46 PM
Some people trade because they think they are capable of making a profit from it, and some people participate, and some people try to trade to experience the feeling of making an actual trade either buy or sell.

Now, all I mentioned is that the majority are stressed because they are not able to obtain passive income from the trading activity they are doing, despite the fact that they have enough knowledge about trading and yet they still make zero profit in the end. And probably, that's because the analysis they are doing is always wrong.
Many have been trading for a long time but their ability to make analysis is not right and that is what makes them unable to get passive income.
I am not so focused on trading, I only do it sometimes in my free time.
So trading for me is a way to get additional income, because I also have a business in the real world.

crypto market is difficult to predict than the regulated stock and Forex market. the crypto market although almost regulated the whales are still manipulating the market while the government is also playing its part in manipulating is fundamental news.

can't just say they are not knowledgeable in what they do. if they are just relying on technical analysis, these traders might just be as successful in making its passive income. yet its not that simple. just look at what Elon can do with just one tweet.

All will be hyped when BTC goes really high up to $200 but once Trump does something else contrary to his first stance, this will take a dive.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: vegasus on December 25, 2024, 10:42:11 PM
Some people trade because they think they are capable of making a profit from it, and some people participate, and some people try to trade to experience the feeling of making an actual trade either buy or sell.

Now, all I mentioned is that the majority are stressed because they are not able to obtain passive income from the trading activity they are doing, despite the fact that they have enough knowledge about trading and yet they still make zero profit in the end. And probably, that's because the analysis they are doing is always wrong.
And many beginners do crypto trading because of their desire to get profits quickly through trading, as obtained by professional traders so far. In fact, their capacity is very different, pro traders are very reasonable when they can get higher gains than the loss. But beginners? when they don't really understand about trading and are only carried away by FOMO to join in crypto trading, the results will be mediocre, even if they carelessly use leverage, it can really damage the condition and make losing money much easier. That is why if we are really going to trade cryptocurrency, we must ensure that we are really ready with all preparations needed, not only about the money as the caputal for traidng, but also knowledge and the readiness of our mental and emotional management.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: Crypto Library on December 25, 2024, 10:58:21 PM
First; we all must understand that trading is something of patience,we needs more time to study the market,traders losses more because of impatient,greed,and also fear of loosing,the moments you start exhibiting this unethical behaviour in trading you stand the chance to loose than profiting.
Because those who come to trade are not professional traders, not everyone who comes to trade understands the psychology of this market, cannot do market analysis, and many have neither fundamental knowledge nor technical knowledge. And since their number is several times higher than professional traders in the trading world, it is natural that most people will suffer losses most of the time while trading.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: philipma1957 on December 25, 2024, 11:05:18 PM
First; we all must understand that trading is something of patience,we needs more time to study the market,traders losses more because of impatient,greed,and also fear of loosing,the moments you start exhibiting this unethical behaviour in trading you stand the chance to loose than profiting.

You pay fees on trades.

so more trades cost more to do. So trading often gambling on leverage all cost money,to,do.

Even when you pick,right,you,pay,more fees.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: Chilwell on December 26, 2024, 10:27:44 AM
First; we all must understand that trading is something of patience,we needs more time to study the market,traders losses more because of impatient,greed,and also fear of loosing,the moments you start exhibiting this unethical behaviour in trading you stand the chance to loose than profiting.
Many traders lack patience and focus solely on making huge profits. This eagerness and willingness to succeed lead them to make impulsive decisions without carefully considering the consequences. Ultimately, they often lose significant amounts of money without understanding the causes of their failures.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: enwi on December 26, 2024, 03:56:40 PM
First; we all must understand that trading is something of patience,we needs more time to study the market,traders losses more because of impatient,greed,and also fear of loosing,the moments you start exhibiting this unethical behaviour in trading you stand the chance to loose than profiting.
Many traders lack patience and focus solely on making huge profits. This eagerness and willingness to succeed lead them to make impulsive decisions without carefully considering the consequences. Ultimately, they often lose significant amounts of money without understanding the causes of their failures.
Many times, trading success is born out of experience since one takes iterative and deliberate actions. In any decision that one has to make there is so much merit in sitting down and be able to go through all the possibilities of the results that may be expected. When we let patience into the equation, the mind is able to get out of the autopilot and focus more, meaning that every move made is purposeful and part of a plan. Adopting a standard practice also enables us to transform the brain by establishing ways in which one can be protected from change or shock. In general, defeats can be viewed as a source of purely positive factors that can positively help to comprehend the further actions of competitors and transform the material received into capital. In this way, success appears to be more effective and realistic as an endless cycle continues.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: Bobcrypto on December 27, 2024, 07:21:31 AM
First; we all must understand that trading is something of patience,we needs more time to study the market,traders losses more because of impatient,greed,and also fear of loosing,the moments you start exhibiting this unethical behaviour in trading you stand the chance to loose than profiting.

Well, i am writing based on your topic. I doubt if there are substantial evidence to show that traders on all trading options loses more than gaining. A loss on sport trading options are not yet a loss except a trader closes his position during a down trends movements for fear of losing all if the market dumps. A spot trader who is patience, not emotional can hit a good profit once the market bounces back.
Now, other trading options may loss more than gain because of some reason, for example, future and margin traders are open to loses especially when they over leverages their funds. I think this is the area you might be referring when you talked about people losing more than gaining. For instance, some experts published a report few days ago that about $1.2b were liquidated on both the long and short positions on the future) margin markets. A similar situation also occurred last week were many long positions on the future trading options were also liquidated
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: LogitechMouse on December 27, 2024, 07:44:05 AM
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Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
I believe there are many reasons, but here are the 3 that comes to my mind.
1. Risk Management - no stop-loss, always overleveraging and many more. These are just some of the proofs that the trader has poor risk management and because of this, the chances of him losing would be higher.
2. Lack of knowledge - I guess there's no need for me to explain on this one. The lesser your knowledge is, the higher the chance of you losing your money.
3. Lack of Discipline - don't let your emotions trade for you because there's a huge chance that you will lose your money if that happens. Always, always stick to your strategy, and be disciplined enough to follow your strategy.

There are many reasons why traders are losing more than gaining. At the end of the day, experience will still be the key towards our success in trading.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: jeraldskie11 on December 27, 2024, 07:57:23 AM
First; we all must understand that trading is something of patience,we needs more time to study the market,traders losses more because of impatient,greed,and also fear of loosing,the moments you start exhibiting this unethical behaviour in trading you stand the chance to loose than profiting.
We need patience in trading, but this is not what we only need to be survive and become profitable. We should have a trading plan and back test it before we enter with a real account. If we can make profit in demo, we can also make it with real account. However, we should consider our emotion when we trade because normally it happens when money is involve. If we are so emotional because of losses or any circumstances we should have to avoid trading and come back when you're okay.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: Rruchi man on December 28, 2024, 11:19:39 PM
First; we all must understand that trading is something of patience,we needs more time to study the market,traders losses more because of impatient,greed,and also fear of loosing,the moments you start exhibiting this unethical behaviour in trading you stand the chance to loose than profiting.
Losing is normal in trading, but when you lose more than you are gaining, it shows that there is an error and that the amount of knowledge you have is not yet sufficient to keep you at a sustainable level where you are consistently making profits. You should gain more than you lose in trading, and you can achieve that with proper knowledge of risk management and taking time to observe the other weaknesses you have so you can strengthen them.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: sampoerna on December 28, 2024, 11:33:58 PM
First; we all must understand that trading is something of patience,we needs more time to study the market,traders losses more because of impatient,greed,and also fear of loosing,the moments you start exhibiting this unethical behaviour in trading you stand the chance to loose than profiting.
because not a few beginners in crypto trading start trading with the wrong goals and perspectives. many think that trading is a quick and instant way to get money many times over. there are also those who think that trading is just buying at a low price and selling at a high price, without thinking that the market will always change and not knowing when the price will go up again.

then what happens most often is the fact that some of them trade without proper preparation, especially in terms of knowledge, mental readiness. and also risk management. yes, this happens because they just follow people or some signal trading groups that show off profits many times over or even hundreds of percent of trading profits in crypto. This is bad, because they don't even understand crypto trading and only base it on crypto signals from certain groups.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: Didia Sofunichi on December 29, 2024, 07:58:42 AM
Trading which has to do with the act of buying and selling in other to make profit is not an easy venture. Success in trade requires lots of patience, sacrifices and commitment.

Once of the reasons why people loose more than gaining is because people now venture in to areas of trade they know nothing about. In the early years of my life I saw the organized Igbo apprentice system, where people serve their masters for many years after which they are settled to start up theirs.

But now nobody wants to serve. Another reason is impatient, a lot of people want to start trading today and become millionaires over night
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: Rubel007 on December 29, 2024, 07:00:19 PM
I consider it normal to lose in trading. Traders will definitely lose and they will also make profits. If you trade only for profit, the chances of loss will increase. A trader needs to gain sufficient knowledge at the beginning so that he can gain good knowledge about good and bad, otherwise he will face losses by investing in the wrong platform. Trading is a platform for skilled and experienced people where every moment has to be given importance. Especially, the knowledge related to trading has to be kept up to date, otherwise the chances of loss in trading will increase. The trader must do adequate research before each trade. Sometimes, even after doing good research, there will be losses, but if you have patience there will be more chance to make profit.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: bayu7adi on December 31, 2024, 04:37:03 AM
Once of the reasons why people loose more than gaining is because people now venture in to areas of trade they know nothing about. In the early years of my life I saw the organized Igbo apprentice system, where people serve their masters for many years after which they are settled to start up theirs.
Losing is something painful and actually to really know the cause of each person's loss, it can indeed be a lesson for us so that we do not make the same mistake... someone who loses in trading should improve and start considering the strategy he uses...

I am sure that mistakes in trading will indeed occur every day, but that is what makes us always have to be alert and be able to take advantage of the big opportunities that are in front of us... trading is a continuous activity, even if you have the perfect candlestick formula, it is still possible to make a wrong prediction.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: Stuart on December 31, 2024, 04:26:49 PM
First; we all must understand that trading is something of patience,we needs more time to study the market,traders losses more because of impatient,greed,and also fear of loosing,the moments you start exhibiting this unethical behaviour in trading you stand the chance to loose than profiting.

It is one thing certain when it comes to trading, that losses are inevitable even as a professional trader. New traders needs to take time to educate themselves before jumping in. This self education doesn't mean losses won't come, it's just that, it will give you an edge over some unnecessary losses that can be easily avoided as a new trader.

The crypto market is very volatile and every means needed to manage the losses is what traders are looking out for, while chasing for profits.
Impatient, greed and fear are the basic important things that one must understand. Yet, experience ends up teaching us practically in the market. If impatient, greed and fear is put under control, then losses can be easily managed, without losing everything to the market.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: albon on December 31, 2024, 04:51:35 PM
Any business has risks and losses so trading is the same because most of the time the initial trading losses are more. The biggest reason for loss in trading is lack of adequate knowledge about the subject matter of trading. This loss calculation starts when any of your entries goes against the market trend. It is normal that the trend will change anytime and you also have to keep up with this changing trend. If you get knocked out immediately then you will go towards loss. Beginners have the least patience so after a few days of practice trading, they come to trade in the real market. After trading for a few days the final result is the loss.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: kulkhan on January 02, 2025, 09:39:12 PM
I will tell it is true, people are loosing more than gaining. We know trading is very risky but who are being educated on trading they are being profitable in trading. But who has no proper knowledge about trading they being looser. So every traders need gather knowledge about trading and after that they can start trading. Otherwise they will loose his valuable fund. And finally i am agree with you most people are loosing more than gaining.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: Chilwell on January 11, 2025, 10:42:40 PM
First; we all must understand that trading is something of patience,we needs more time to study the market,traders losses more because of impatient,greed,and also fear of loosing,the moments you start exhibiting this unethical behaviour in trading you stand the chance to loose than profiting.
We need patience in trading, but this is not what we only need to be survive and become profitable. We should have a trading plan and back test it before we enter with a real account. If we can make profit in demo, we can also make it with real account. However, we should consider our emotion when we trade because normally it happens when money is involve. If we are so emotional because of losses or any circumstances we should have to avoid trading and come back when you're okay.
To achieve success as a trader, it's essential to exercise patience in two key areas: market fluctuations and customer interactions. Markets can be unpredictable, and prices may rise or fall rapidly. Similarly, some customers can be challenging to deal with. However, it's crucial to remain patient and composed when interacting with them.

Customer satisfaction is vital to the success of your trading business. Customers are the lifeblood of your enterprise, and their referrals can significantly impact your reputation. If you treat them with respect and professionalism, they will likely recommend your services to others. Conversely, if you mishandle customer interactions, it can harm your reputation and ultimately, your business.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: rizqillah on January 12, 2025, 01:14:03 PM
I will tell it is true, people are loosing more than gaining. We know trading is very risky but who are being educated on trading they are being profitable in trading. But who has no proper knowledge about trading they being looser. So every traders need gather knowledge about trading and after that they can start trading. Otherwise they will loose his valuable fund. And finally i am agree with you most people are loosing more than gaining.
It all depends on our ability in trading, if we have good skills and experience in trading we can get more profit than loss. To be honest in trading I get more profit than loss, if I often lose, I will stop trading.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: enwi on January 15, 2025, 12:30:16 PM
I will tell it is true, people are loosing more than gaining. We know trading is very risky but who are being educated on trading they are being profitable in trading. But who has no proper knowledge about trading they being looser. So every traders need gather knowledge about trading and after that they can start trading. Otherwise they will loose his valuable fund. And finally i am agree with you most people are loosing more than gaining.
True, one runs a very high risk of being a loser in trading, if one does not understand what is involved and that is why it is very essential to have some basic understanding of how the market place operates. Also trading is not about being lucky, there is so many details that one has to study in order to make a right choice. If we give our best to gain some knowledge of the market then our odds of gaining better results improve. On the other hand, making decisions to start trading without knowledge would only mean that such trading is done randomly and therefore is likely to result in a number of avoidable losses. However, gaining the knowledge that is required in trading is one of the most important basic steps when starting with trading.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: taufik123 on January 15, 2025, 09:55:00 PM
It all depends on our ability in trading, if we have good skills and experience in trading we can get more profit than loss. To be honest in trading I get more profit than loss, if I often lose, I will stop trading.
But it is possible that people who already have the skills and know how trading works will suffer losses that they didn't even expect.
It is also about how one conducts management and strategy and regulates their trading psychology.

The person who profits more has certainly followed the strategy of how he trades, such as saying more wins than losses, you need to maintain.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: TomPluz on January 16, 2025, 08:12:37 AM

Trading is considered as one of the best ways to make money and in today's world you can trade offline or online but since we are already in a high-tech age we usually associate trading with investment vehicles like stocks, forex, crypto and the likes. Trading can actually be considered as a business and many traders gained immense success since time immemorial while there are also many others whom trading is not their cup of tea hence they lose some money. Trading is an open business but trading may not be for everyone. Here there are risks involved and if one is not careful and lucky enough loses can pile up and can result to financial devastation In today's crypto market, everyday and every hour and even every minute the opportunity to trade is perennially offered to all of us but we must be prepared and must learn all the necessary things to learn...hence education is a must. We must understand that in any business if there can be lack of preparation there will surely be difficulties and that can be true in trading.

Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: milewilda on January 16, 2025, 08:28:20 AM

Trading is considered as one of the best ways to make money and in today's world you can trade offline or online but since we are already in a high-tech age we usually associate trading with investment vehicles like stocks, forex, crypto and the likes. Trading can actually be considered as a business and many traders gained immense success since time immemorial while there are also many others whom trading is not their cup of tea hence they lose some money. Trading is an open business but trading may not be for everyone. Here there are risks involved and if one is not careful and lucky enough loses can pile up and can result to financial devastation In today's crypto market, everyday and every hour and even every minute the opportunity to trade is perennially offered to all of us but we must be prepared and must learn all the necessary things to learn...hence education is a must. We must understand that in any business if there can be lack of preparation there will surely be difficulties and that can be true in trading.
Yes, it is indeed the best way but you should be that considerate about into the risks involved because at the moment that you will be that too optimistic on things about making profits but of course you should be that sensible about into the possibilities that you will be losing up money too and not everything will really be that always talks about making money because on the moment that you do expect too much then it will be potentially be bringing out that huge disappointment. This is why it is really that important that you are wary about into this aspect.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: tequilla_sunset on January 16, 2025, 11:18:41 AM
But it is possible that people who already have the skills and know how trading works will suffer losses that they didn't even expect.
It is also about how one conducts management and strategy and regulates their trading psychology.

The person who profits more has certainly followed the strategy of how he trades, such as saying more wins than losses, you need to maintain.

Risk management => means more profits to fix and get.
No matter what, greed ruins any strategy,  - good or bad.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: JISAN on January 16, 2025, 04:26:31 PM
First; we all must understand that trading is something of patience,we needs more time to study the market,traders losses more because of impatient,greed,and also fear of loosing,the moments you start exhibiting this unethical behaviour in trading you stand the chance to loose than profiting.
It is not enough for short term traders when they have some profit but they face panic when they have some loss.  Especially those who don't know good analysis then think that the price of that token may go down further and then they sell it at a loss to buy it lower. But when they see that the price of that token starts to rise again they panic buy again. Thus they keep losing along with the volatility of the market. And most of the traders start to think of themselves as experts even though they are new and they are the ones who lose the most. Except for some professional traders, all short term traders will lose
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: rizqillah on January 17, 2025, 10:45:35 PM
First; we all must understand that trading is something of patience,we needs more time to study the market,traders losses more because of impatient,greed,and also fear of loosing,the moments you start exhibiting this unethical behaviour in trading you stand the chance to loose than profiting.
It is not enough for short term traders when they have some profit but they face panic when they have some loss.  Especially those who don't know good analysis then think that the price of that token may go down further and then they sell it at a loss to buy it lower. But when they see that the price of that token starts to rise again they panic buy again. Thus they keep losing along with the volatility of the market. And most of the traders start to think of themselves as experts even though they are new and they are the ones who lose the most. Except for some professional traders, all short term traders will lose
Short-term trading is riskier and it requires knowledge and experience in doing so. If we are newbies, it is better not to do short-term trading, because the crypto market is very volatile. They will panic when buying coins and suddenly go down and then do cutloss. the loss that he will get, because it takes expertise in making analysis of funds and strategies in short-term trading.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: milewilda on January 18, 2025, 07:42:44 PM
First; we all must understand that trading is something of patience,we needs more time to study the market,traders losses more because of impatient,greed,and also fear of loosing,the moments you start exhibiting this unethical behaviour in trading you stand the chance to loose than profiting.
It is not enough for short term traders when they have some profit but they face panic when they have some loss.  Especially those who don't know good analysis then think that the price of that token may go down further and then they sell it at a loss to buy it lower. But when they see that the price of that token starts to rise again they panic buy again. Thus they keep losing along with the volatility of the market. And most of the traders start to think of themselves as experts even though they are new and they are the ones who lose the most. Except for some professional traders, all short term traders will lose
Short-term trading is riskier and it requires knowledge and experience in doing so. If we are newbies, it is better not to do short-term trading, because the crypto market is very volatile. They will panic when buying coins and suddenly go down and then do cutloss. the loss that he will get, because it takes expertise in making analysis of funds and strategies in short-term trading.
Day trading, scalping or short term trading is really indeed the hardest way on doing trades on which you will really be that definitely be having that higher risks on busting up all over your trading capital and this will really be that needing that intensive dealing or simply needing up that full time with having that sufficient skills on trying out to handle this market volatility on active manner. If we do really tend to look up on how many traders did really make out such decision on trying out to hover this this kind of trading then only a few could be able to sustain up this kind of trading way because we do know that this isnt something that will be simple that you can be able to handle it out. If ever you do succeed out such approach then it will really be that up to you on how to bare up with it but of course if you can be able to handle it out then this will be meaning up that you can really that have the advantage.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: dekafee79 on January 18, 2025, 10:09:12 PM

Day trading, scalping or short term trading is really indeed the hardest way on doing trades on which you will really be that definitely be having that higher risks on busting up all over your trading capital and this will really be that needing that intensive dealing or simply needing up that full time with having that sufficient skills on trying out to handle this market volatility on active manner. If we do really tend to look up on how many traders did really make out such decision on trying out to hover this this kind of trading then only a few could be able to sustain up this kind of trading way because we do know that this isnt something that will be simple that you can be able to handle it out. If ever you do succeed out such approach then it will really be that up to you on how to bare up with it but of course if you can be able to handle it out then this will be meaning up that you can really that have the advantage.
Short term or day trading requires time to focus on doing it, for those who have real world activities will have difficulty doing it. I am not a day trader, but only trade when I have free time and the market is in good condition. Because when [the crypto market is experiencing a positive trend I will try to trade
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: enwi on January 19, 2025, 07:40:04 AM
First; we all must understand that trading is something of patience,we needs more time to study the market,traders losses more because of impatient,greed,and also fear of loosing,the moments you start exhibiting this unethical behaviour in trading you stand the chance to loose than profiting.
It is not enough for short term traders when they have some profit but they face panic when they have some loss.  Especially those who don't know good analysis then think that the price of that token may go down further and then they sell it at a loss to buy it lower. But when they see that the price of that token starts to rise again they panic buy again. Thus they keep losing along with the volatility of the market. And most of the traders start to think of themselves as experts even though they are new and they are the ones who lose the most. Except for some professional traders, all short term traders will lose
Short-term trading is riskier and it requires knowledge and experience in doing so. If we are newbies, it is better not to do short-term trading, because the crypto market is very volatile. They will panic when buying coins and suddenly go down and then do cutloss. the loss that he will get, because it takes expertise in making analysis of funds and strategies in short-term trading.
Day trading, scalping or short term trading is really indeed the hardest way on doing trades on which you will really be that definitely be having that higher risks on busting up all over your trading capital and this will really be that needing that intensive dealing or simply needing up that full time with having that sufficient skills on trying out to handle this market volatility on active manner. If we do really tend to look up on how many traders did really make out such decision on trying out to hover this this kind of trading then only a few could be able to sustain up this kind of trading way because we do know that this isnt something that will be simple that you can be able to handle it out. If ever you do succeed out such approach then it will really be that up to you on how to bare up with it but of course if you can be able to handle it out then this will be meaning up that you can really that have the advantage.
Well, Day trading or scalping does demand most attention and one must know how to manage risk appropriately. This activity sometimes involve us has to track the movement of the market and make the decisions very fast. This is not feasible to execute by all because the level of volatility that one can handle may be very demanding. But at the same time for those who will be enhancing the appropriate skills and appropriate methods of the strategic implementation there is a possibility to yield profit. The most important thing is to ensure that we take our time and do not jeopardise the balances when it comes to handling the capital is have. Using this strategy, it is still one of the ways of realising the expected results given that there is a real understanding and experience that remains to be enhanced.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: Bobcrypto on January 20, 2025, 12:10:27 PM
I have noticed this behaviour amongst beginner traders, in any bull market period you can make plenty money without being knowledgeable about trading, the hard part is once this period ends and you continue trading, you'll start losing.

..and I am not sure under which category this behaviour falls in. Is it impatience, greed or fomo?

In crypto trading, nobody has the ultimate knowledge of the crypto market in totality, even the expert traders losses whether during the bear or bull runs respectively. Some times everyone seems to be a winner during the bull but that does not means that only the newbies encountered losses, it is a generally scenario especially if there is market dumps

Now, there are traders who are highly experienced on trading, it is not difficult for some of this traders to earn profit during the bear run. It is therefore good to learn the trading skills to boost your experience.
Again, impatient, FOMO, greed, are not necessarily the reason for losses but it is basically the lact of experience and good knowledge of the market.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: JISAN on January 20, 2025, 03:19:49 PM
First; we all must understand that trading is something of patience,we needs more time to study the market,traders losses more because of impatient,greed,and also fear of loosing,the moments you start exhibiting this unethical behaviour in trading you stand the chance to loose than profiting.
It is not enough for short term traders when they have some profit but they face panic when they have some loss.  Especially those who don't know good analysis then think that the price of that token may go down further and then they sell it at a loss to buy it lower. But when they see that the price of that token starts to rise again they panic buy again. Thus they keep losing along with the volatility of the market. And most of the traders start to think of themselves as experts even though they are new and they are the ones who lose the most. Except for some professional traders, all short term traders will lose
Short-term trading is riskier and it requires knowledge and experience in doing so. If we are newbies, it is better not to do short-term trading, because the crypto market is very volatile. They will panic when buying coins and suddenly go down and then do cutloss. the loss that he will get, because it takes expertise in making analysis of funds and strategies in short-term trading.
Day trading, scalping or short term trading is really indeed the hardest way on doing trades on which you will really be that definitely be having that higher risks on busting up all over your trading capital and this will really be that needing that intensive dealing or simply needing up that full time with having that sufficient skills on trying out to handle this market volatility on active manner. If we do really tend to look up on how many traders did really make out such decision on trying out to hover this this kind of trading then only a few could be able to sustain up this kind of trading way because we do know that this isnt something that will be simple that you can be able to handle it out. If ever you do succeed out such approach then it will really be that up to you on how to bare up with it but of course if you can be able to handle it out then this will be meaning up that you can really that have the advantage.
Well, Day trading or scalping does demand most attention and one must know how to manage risk appropriately. This activity sometimes involve us has to track the movement of the market and make the decisions very fast. This is not feasible to execute by all because the level of volatility that one can handle may be very demanding. But at the same time for those who will be enhancing the appropriate skills and appropriate methods of the strategic implementation there is a possibility to yield profit. The most important thing is to ensure that we take our time and do not jeopardise the balances when it comes to handling the capital is have. Using this strategy, it is still one of the ways of realising the expected results given that there is a real understanding and experience that remains to be enhanced.
Those who frequently truck the market will panic at the volatility of the market.  And that's exactly what happens with day traders. Day Traders frequently track the market and when they see they are at a loss they panic and sell them at a loss and many spot losses sell them at a loss and take futures entries with high leverage. And there they liquidate their funds. a lot of things happen with traders and that's why traders loss more then gaining in trading
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: milewilda on January 21, 2025, 07:05:03 AM
First; we all must understand that trading is something of patience,we needs more time to study the market,traders losses more because of impatient,greed,and also fear of loosing,the moments you start exhibiting this unethical behaviour in trading you stand the chance to loose than profiting.
It is not enough for short term traders when they have some profit but they face panic when they have some loss.  Especially those who don't know good analysis then think that the price of that token may go down further and then they sell it at a loss to buy it lower. But when they see that the price of that token starts to rise again they panic buy again. Thus they keep losing along with the volatility of the market. And most of the traders start to think of themselves as experts even though they are new and they are the ones who lose the most. Except for some professional traders, all short term traders will lose
Short-term trading is riskier and it requires knowledge and experience in doing so. If we are newbies, it is better not to do short-term trading, because the crypto market is very volatile. They will panic when buying coins and suddenly go down and then do cutloss. the loss that he will get, because it takes expertise in making analysis of funds and strategies in short-term trading.
Day trading, scalping or short term trading is really indeed the hardest way on doing trades on which you will really be that definitely be having that higher risks on busting up all over your trading capital and this will really be that needing that intensive dealing or simply needing up that full time with having that sufficient skills on trying out to handle this market volatility on active manner. If we do really tend to look up on how many traders did really make out such decision on trying out to hover this this kind of trading then only a few could be able to sustain up this kind of trading way because we do know that this isnt something that will be simple that you can be able to handle it out. If ever you do succeed out such approach then it will really be that up to you on how to bare up with it but of course if you can be able to handle it out then this will be meaning up that you can really that have the advantage.
Well, Day trading or scalping does demand most attention and one must know how to manage risk appropriately. This activity sometimes involve us has to track the movement of the market and make the decisions very fast. This is not feasible to execute by all because the level of volatility that one can handle may be very demanding. But at the same time for those who will be enhancing the appropriate skills and appropriate methods of the strategic implementation there is a possibility to yield profit. The most important thing is to ensure that we take our time and do not jeopardise the balances when it comes to handling the capital is have. Using this strategy, it is still one of the ways of realising the expected results given that there is a real understanding and experience that remains to be enhanced.
Those who frequently truck the market will panic at the volatility of the market.  And that's exactly what happens with day traders. Day Traders frequently track the market and when they see they are at a loss they panic and sell them at a loss and many spot losses sell them at a loss and take futures entries with high leverage. And there they liquidate their funds. a lot of things happen with traders and that's why traders loss more then gaining in trading
When it comes to trading then losing is normal on which no matter how you will be that so good or professional when it comes to trading but still you are that prone to loses on which its normal. The thing you should be having this kind of consideration and preparedness about these situations on which at the moment that you will be having such experience then  you do know on what you should gonna do. Its really that important on having that versatility when you do get involved with trading because not everything will really be just that talking about making profits but also you should consider out on losing money too and this is something that you do really need up to think too.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: omori on January 21, 2025, 11:27:58 AM
I have noticed this behaviour amongst beginner traders, in any bull market period you can make plenty money without being knowledgeable about trading, the hard part is once this period ends and you continue trading, you'll start losing.

..and I am not sure under which category this behaviour falls in. Is it impatience, greed or fomo?

In crypto trading, nobody has the ultimate knowledge of the crypto market in totality, even the expert traders losses whether during the bear or bull runs respectively. Some times everyone seems to be a winner during the bull but that does not means that only the newbies encountered losses, it is a generally scenario especially if there is market dumps

Now, there are traders who are highly experienced on trading, it is not difficult for some of this traders to earn profit during the bear run. It is therefore good to learn the trading skills to boost your experience.
Again, impatient, FOMO, greed, are not necessarily the reason for losses but it is basically the lact of experience and good knowledge of the market.

We can only speculate on anything, but in the end, we should do it responsibly too.
Once we are consumed by the things you mentioned, alongside rushing things out without the needed knowledge, - we are nothing short of a prey for the market.
That's why to enter something risky, we must be ready for anything, especially for a loss.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: JoyMarsha on January 21, 2025, 08:58:04 PM
Another reason why traders lose in trading is having overconfidence that their abilities in trading will pay off for them if they are taking on excessive risk. This mindset of taking excessive risk have deceive many not to know that, trading is not what to thought of taking excessive risk in without setting up proper stop losses, developing a trading plan and not allowing their emotions to rule over them rather than sticking to their trading strategies of not being fearful and greed
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: legend45 on January 21, 2025, 10:31:45 PM
Another reason why traders lose in trading is having overconfidence that their abilities in trading will pay off for them if they are taking on excessive risk. This mindset of taking excessive risk have deceive many not to know that, trading is not what to thought of taking excessive risk in without setting up proper stop losses, developing a trading plan and not allowing their emotions to rule over them rather than sticking to their trading strategies of not being fearful and greed
being too confident and taking too big a risk if you don't have enough knowledge and experience will make us lose big. In trading, risk management is very much needed, this is what should make us able to choose the smallest risk by getting the biggest profit.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: Penlex_Writer on January 22, 2025, 12:33:44 AM
The main reason for this is that they always want to win and as a consequence when they want to win all the time and every operation they focus and it can cause stress when the opposite happens and this is bad because the mentality of a person starting out is strong , if they start to look at social networks and other things, then they realize that this is very relevant and when they see it like that, then they will concentrate only on that part , therefore when they focus on their trades and look for the results of others and they don't get them, then they lose, they have no self-control and they don't have that mentality of what trading really means, trading is winning and losing, what you should try to do is maintain a more positive balance result than negative.
yeah i agree with you,as we all known trading is all about loosing and wining,but let your mindset always be positive than negative,positve mindset makes you to put more effort in your weaking areas.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: Penlex_Writer on January 22, 2025, 12:42:07 AM
Someone has to lose in trading for others to make profits that's how trading works. So if they don't want to be on the losing side it's necessary to practice patience while making the decisions which gives time to assess the situation and act accordingly. People also lose due to the wrong choice of coins, they see a trending coin and go all in by that time the whales will dump it hardly.
in trading never you have the mindset of involving because mr B is trading,what comes to your mind is what effort am i to make here or what strategies are the best solution in trading,that positive taught should be there,try to make a difference,and secondly never you be in a competition always be focused and observants.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: bayu7adi on January 22, 2025, 07:20:54 AM
First; we all must understand that trading is something of patience,we needs more time to study the market,traders losses more because of impatient,greed,and also fear of loosing,the moments you start exhibiting this unethical behaviour in trading you stand the chance to loose than profiting.
It usually happens to traders who are not used to the market, they are still influenced by emotions that make their analysis messy. I have experienced defeat in trading just because my emotions were too chaotic, fear is really the first test for newcomers, because in fact the big media and news portals that we commonly see on the internet manipulate our emotions into fear with their news titles.

The more news like that you consume, the more accustomed your emotions will be to being easy to control... if someone still persists in trading to evaluate decisions based on their previous emotions... they will start to step higher until they will no longer involve emotions in cryptocurrency trading.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: bitterguy28 on January 22, 2025, 07:43:38 AM
as we all known trading is all about loosing and wining,
it is natural to spend some money or lose money as we say because you cant start trading without any capital but in order for you to 'win' you need to make sure that you are making more than you spent for your capital
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but let your mindset always be positive than negative,positve mindset makes you to put more effort in your weaking areas.
you just have to be objective and find areas where you are at the strongest and areas where you are the weakest too much positivity may lead you to more losses if you do not at least see where you can improve at before you continue
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: Hisbullah on January 22, 2025, 12:55:48 PM
First; we all must understand that trading is something of patience,we needs more time to study the market,traders losses more because of impatient,greed,and also fear of loosing,the moments you start exhibiting this unethical behaviour in trading you stand the chance to loose than profiting.
It usually happens to traders who are not used to the market, they are still influenced by emotions that make their analysis messy. I have experienced defeat in trading just because my emotions were too chaotic, fear is really the first test for newcomers, because in fact the big media and news portals that we commonly see on the internet manipulate our emotions into fear with their news titles.

The more news like that you consume, the more accustomed your emotions will be to being easy to control... if someone still persists in trading to evaluate decisions based on their previous emotions... they will start to step higher until they will no longer involve emotions in cryptocurrency trading.
Emotional control in trading is very important because sometimes we read news that makes us panic, especially when we first start trading, this will make us lose. But after having good experience and knowledge in trading, we can be calmer in facing it.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: tequilla_sunset on January 22, 2025, 01:26:21 PM
as we all known trading is all about loosing and wining,
it is natural to spend some money or lose money as we say because you cant start trading without any capital but in order for you to 'win' you need to make sure that you are making more than you spent for your capital

In order to do so, you must stay responsible.
Stay true to yourself, the facts, and your depo - and you won't be deep to say it's over for you on the market.
If done and managed correctly, risks would still be there, but they would be minimal.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 23, 2025, 03:40:52 PM
yeah i agree with you,as we all known trading is all about loosing and wining,but let your mindset always be positive than negative,positve mindset makes you to put more effort in your weaking areas.

The truth is that I hadn't seen it that way, but sometimes I consider that in any case maintaining a positive mentality helps especially when I have losses, in many cases I have done scalping and I have not been able to recover money that I lost some time ago, the worst thing is that when I win once it is not enough to cover what I previously lost, but I have to achieve it little by little, only that little by little takes a long time and sometimes what plays in another way is that it tries to give anxiety, where I had a negative mindset I am sure I would not have the patience to wait.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: kulkhan on January 23, 2025, 08:26:28 PM
First; we all must understand that trading is something of patience,we needs more time to study the market,traders losses more because of impatient,greed,and also fear of loosing,the moments you start exhibiting this unethical behaviour in trading you stand the chance to loose than profiting.
It usually happens to traders who are not used to the market, they are still influenced by emotions that make their analysis messy. I have experienced defeat in trading just because my emotions were too chaotic, fear is really the first test for newcomers, because in fact the big media and news portals that we commonly see on the internet manipulate our emotions into fear with their news titles.

The more news like that you consume, the more accustomed your emotions will be to being easy to control... if someone still persists in trading to evaluate decisions based on their previous emotions... they will start to step higher until they will no longer involve emotions in cryptocurrency trading.
Emotional control in trading is very important because sometimes we read news that makes us panic, especially when we first start trading, this will make us lose. But after having good experience and knowledge in trading, we can be calmer in facing it.
We are seeing huge people lossing his valuable fund from trading and invest on cryptocurrency. There has many causes for losses. Main causes is lack of proper knowledge. Without proper knowledge. Even we can't able to control our emotion so we are lossing in trading. If we learn properly and gether knowledge then we able to profit in trading.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: Gurujebs on January 23, 2025, 09:29:25 PM
In order to do so, you must stay responsible.
Stay true to yourself, the facts, and your depo - and you won't be deep to say it's over for you on the market.
If done and managed correctly, risks would still be there, but they would be minimal.

One funny thing about trading is that you can still follow what you said and you will get lost that you have never expected. The thing is that in trading you are going to make loss and you might lose few but your priorities should be how you have to maximize profits and make more money, when you later deduct the loss from the profit you will have enough over your head.

A trader must also not be emotional attached to the market, it is bullish and all that but it can turn the other way the next day and you wouldn't know about it. Don't fall for any project, because they say it will do that doesn't mean it will, the coin might not leave to see the next hull run, this is how you win in the crypto market.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: sampoerna on January 24, 2025, 11:59:20 PM
A trader must also not be emotional attached to the market, it is bullish and all that but it can turn the other way the next day and you wouldn't know about it. Don't fall for any project, because they say it will do that doesn't mean it will, the coin might not leave to see the next hull run, this is how you win in the crypto market.
Being more emotional and also unable to control oneself due to too much emotion is one of the things that must be avoided when trading. Because, being too much emotional will make us rush in considering decisions, in looking for coins, and so on. Moreover, it is precisely the trigger for panic selling that is not right, causing great losses. Therefore, when trading, not only capital and knowledge are prepared, but also emotional management and mental strength to do it.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: Gposas on January 25, 2025, 07:01:15 AM
First; we all must understand that trading is something of patience,we needs more time to study the market,traders losses more because of impatient,greed,and also fear of loosing,the moments you start exhibiting this unethical behaviour in trading you stand the chance to loose than profiting.
Anxiety is another factor that causes loss, when traders starts loosing, they wouldn't want to hold on and figure out the reason for their loss rather they want to keep placing trades as long as they can get some capitals to trade, and they now view trading as gambling and just like that they keep loosing funds all because of Get-Rich-Quick syndrome.

I come to see that experience is one major factor that determines how profitable a trader can be.
It is always said that you have to spend much time to learn and understand how the market trends but at a critical view, experience is most likely what brings and unforgettable knowledge.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 28, 2025, 01:02:17 AM
For me the reason is simple, they don't manage their emotions and they don't have control over their money, I'm bad at controlling emotions, but I developed my strategy to control emotions within the money plane, and it's simple, only use the money that you are willing to lose , if you do that, you're all set, there's no need to worry about anything, you just have to have the discipline to be able to accomplish the things we set out to do, follow the plan and know how to say no to ourselves, so as not to continue risking and losing money, for me the key is there, of course it's also in continuing to learn every day.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: milewilda on January 28, 2025, 05:05:40 AM
A trader must also not be emotional attached to the market, it is bullish and all that but it can turn the other way the next day and you wouldn't know about it. Don't fall for any project, because they say it will do that doesn't mean it will, the coin might not leave to see the next hull run, this is how you win in the crypto market.
Being more emotional and also unable to control oneself due to too much emotion is one of the things that must be avoided when trading. Because, being too much emotional will make us rush in considering decisions, in looking for coins, and so on. Moreover, it is precisely the trigger for panic selling that is not right, causing great losses. Therefore, when trading, not only capital and knowledge are prepared, but also emotional management and mental strength to do it.
Trading skill isnt something that will really be that easy for you to be able to learn in a short period of time on which there's no way that you can be able to make yourself that able to handle on whatever the challenges that you will be able to encounter along the way. Losing is part of trading and this is something which is really that in default and something that you do need up to consider or think about. If you are really that having such positivity but ending up on having that disappointment then it will really be causing up that bad decisions in regarding on your trading on which this is the viable approach that you will be needing up to do when you are on such situation.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: JerryBB on January 28, 2025, 05:12:46 AM
Because the industry has more gamblers than traders.

Emotions come before skill which means losing is close.

Traders are in a rush to make money when this is far from reality.

Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: bayu7adi on January 28, 2025, 06:58:25 AM
Because the industry has more gamblers than traders.

Emotions come before skill which means losing is close.

Traders are in a rush to make money when this is far from reality.
Looking at the current condition of the community, it seems like that... we see more people who like speculation than studying the use case of the coins they have... the orientation towards profit is more than the orientation towards function and development... and that is happening right now...

However, I do not blame conditions like this, because we all know that coins also need investors... from there the development of the platform can move in a better direction... and we can also see better growth with investors...

So the existence of people who only focus on getting money instantly, is actually also needed by the platform and community,,, just to encourage the acceleration of the growth of the project being worked on.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: Celsius on January 30, 2025, 02:51:33 AM
First; we all must understand that trading is something of patience,we needs more time to study the market,traders losses more because of impatient,greed,and also fear of loosing,the moments you start exhibiting this unethical behaviour in trading you stand the chance to loose than profiting.
Here, the amount of losses is greater than the amount of profits in trading for several reasons. If someone does not have the ability to control emotions, then of course the amount of losses will be greater than the amount of profits. There may also be those who cannot control their greed, meaning that they were profitable while trading but faced losses while repeatedly making unnecessary trades due to excessive greed.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on January 30, 2025, 03:30:29 PM
          -     Because until now, Fomo has always been carried away, which is when the price of bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies has rallied strongly, they think that the price will continue, but suddenly the price drops, so they buy.

Many people make mistakes in these market events, which is why they often lose or lose money, or if not, because they have been carried away by Fomo, their assets are stuck because when they sell, they still lose.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: dekafee79 on January 30, 2025, 11:56:08 PM
          -     Because until now, Fomo has always been carried away, which is when the price of bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies has rallied strongly, they think that the price will continue, but suddenly the price drops, so they buy.

Many people make mistakes in these market events, which is why they often lose or lose money, or if not, because they have been carried away by Fomo, their assets are stuck because when they sell, they still lose.
Don't be influenced by FOMO if you don't want to experience losses, we must do research and make our own analysis to know where the market trend is going. Because many have lost their capital because of FOMO. for those who have long invested in crypto understand this, they will choose long-term hold. Because long-term hold is safer even though it is not as much profit as trading.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: Stuart on January 31, 2025, 05:22:34 AM
Another reason why traders lose in trading is having overconfidence that their abilities in trading will pay off for them if they are taking on excessive risk. This mindset of taking excessive risk have deceive many not to know that, trading is not what to thought of taking excessive risk in without setting up proper stop losses, developing a trading plan and not allowing their emotions to rule over them rather than sticking to their trading strategies of not being fearful and greed

Self confidence is good, this will help us try new things, and in trading it is also good if we can apply safety to reduce the reaction. If proper risk management is not applied, then the chances of Lossing big is very high. But when there is proper risk management, then we can make good returns when the market goes in for us, or reduced losses, when the market goes against our trade.

Trading with risk management is profitable to those who knows the importance of managing the capital in their portfolio, and knowing how it is before having such capital.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: Gurujebs on January 31, 2025, 05:32:46 AM
Don't be influenced by FOMO if you don't want to experience losses, we must do research and make our own analysis to know where the market trend is going. Because many have lost their capital because of FOMO. for those who have long invested in crypto understand this, they will choose long-term hold. Because long-term hold is safer even though it is not as much profit as trading.

No matter how you don't want to be influenced by fomo, it's what really drives the market, you just have to step into some opportunities but don't do that with meme coins, majority of them are potential dump coin that don't go anywhere, you will be trapped and either hold forever or move on with your life, because a coin pump and dump don't have a second time.

Some coins fomo and hype do make people a lot of money. If you remember hyperliquid when the coin was launched airdrop, people made a lot of money and after some days, the pump went more massive and made people alot of money.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: DragonF on January 31, 2025, 07:10:18 AM
Here, the amount of losses is greater than the amount of profits in trading for several reasons. If someone does not have the ability to control emotions, then of course the amount of losses will be greater than the amount of profits. There may also be those who cannot control their greed, meaning that they were profitable while trading but faced losses while repeatedly making unnecessary trades due to excessive greed.

Truly, a greedy person cannot be a successful trader because he will never be satisfied with his earnings. A trader must have a benchmark of what he wants to achieve and work within that framework. Making money from trading can be deceptive in that when a person is making money from trading, he becomes selfish and wants to keep making more money from trading and so he relies on trading without diversifying, and due to the volatile nature of the market, such a trader may lose all of his profit in the blink of an eye because of that selfish desire to reinvent all profit since the profit is not huge enough for him.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: Primo1760 on January 31, 2025, 06:40:17 PM
First; we all must understand that trading is something of patience,we needs more time to study the market,traders losses more because of impatient,greed,and also fear of loosing,the moments you start exhibiting this unethical behaviour in trading you stand the chance to loose than profiting.
Trading platform is a very risky platform, there is more chance of losing than profit on this platform. People lose the most on trading platforms because of their greed. If a trader can keep greed away from his mind, then he will not be easily damaged on the trading platform. I have seen in trading that in the first stage, there is profit in trading, if you are satisfied with that profit and sell the trading, then you will definitely get success there, and if you sit with greed to make more profit, then it is seen that later there is a lot of loss in that trading, so greed is mostly responsible for losing on the trading platform.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: rizqillah on February 01, 2025, 10:47:16 PM
First; we all must understand that trading is something of patience,we needs more time to study the market,traders losses more because of impatient,greed,and also fear of loosing,the moments you start exhibiting this unethical behaviour in trading you stand the chance to loose than profiting.
Trading platform is a very risky platform, there is more chance of losing than profit on this platform. People lose the most on trading platforms because of their greed. If a trader can keep greed away from his mind, then he will not be easily damaged on the trading platform. I have seen in trading that in the first stage, there is profit in trading, if you are satisfied with that profit and sell the trading, then you will definitely get success there, and if you sit with greed to make more profit, then it is seen that later there is a lot of loss in that trading, so greed is mostly responsible for losing on the trading platform.
Greed is a bad emotion because it will eliminate our chances of making a profit. Trading is not something that brings more losses, but in my opinion it brings more profits because I have been focusing on trading for a long time and have made a lot of profit from trading. Until I can have several assets in the real world.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: Mia Chloe on February 01, 2025, 10:58:53 PM
Greed is a bad emotion because it will eliminate our chances of making a profit. Trading is not something that brings more losses, but in my opinion it brings more profits because I have been focusing on trading for a long time and have made a lot of profit from trading. Until I can have several assets in the real world.
The fact is that it's not just only about greed. Actually many traders out there are not actually profitable. One major thing that actually constitutes profitable trading is having a working strategy and that is where the problem is. Many traders are there don't have a real technical strategy that works majority of time on the market so a busy copying signals and some gambling on the market.

The problem of profitability ties a huge number of traders and that is basically why there are more losing traders than profitable ones out there.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: bhadz on February 01, 2025, 11:49:02 PM
Trading with risk management is profitable to those who knows the importance of managing the capital in their portfolio, and knowing how it is before having such capital.
But too much confidence also can lose that much trading capital. That's why many traders lose because they thought that they are confident with their strength in trading and the skills that they have. But the reality gets them wrong that it's not for everybody. Even how good you are in trading, there will be the days that are going to be bloody and will incur losses. This is the sad reality in trading and that's why many still lose but I agree that with risk management and being content with how much profit made is going to make a trader farther with better results.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: New Ranger on February 02, 2025, 10:23:21 AM
But too much confidence also can lose that much trading capital. That's why many traders lose because they thought that they are confident with their strength in trading and the skills that they have. But the reality gets them wrong that it's not for everybody. Even how good you are in trading, there will be the days that are going to be bloody and will incur losses. This is the sad reality in trading and that's why many still lose but I agree that with risk management and being content with how much profit made is going to make a trader farther with better results.

We are still facing uncertain conditions, where many Coins and altcoins are moving in unclear directions. Many whipsaw patterns are formed, and frauds occur to liquidate or chase stop losses. A few days ago Mr. Powell speak and it is important for us to understand the US economic conditions so that the market direction will be clearer. Volatility will be crazy before and after the speech.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: New Ranger on February 02, 2025, 10:36:15 AM
Maybe some are still holding on and maybe some have made temporary decisions and I remember At that time many were very sure that the price of bitcoin would immediately jump again above the price of 109K and followed by the price of altcoin, all positions were held and did not take any profit at all. Greed made us lose profit and maybe some of these positions became negative floating. This is an important lesson for us, always take profit to make our balance grow no matter it shows slow progress.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: bitbit97 on February 02, 2025, 10:45:45 AM
Gambling has only two options, win or lose, trading has similar two options (sell with or without profit) but also allow holding. I would say that gambling is 50/50 chance to lose, when trading its +1/3 chance to lose money. And it is obvious that it is easier to start gambling, than to start trading. Even registering and first steps in gambling are easier than in on any trading platform, if you are totally new and start with fiat.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: Chilwell on February 02, 2025, 12:50:43 PM
Trading platform is a very risky platform, there is more chance of losing than profit on this platform. People lose the most on trading platforms because of their greed. If a trader can keep greed away from his mind, then he will not be easily damaged on the trading platform. I have seen in trading that in the first stage, there is profit in trading, if you are satisfied with that profit and sell the trading, then you will definitely get success there, and if you sit with greed to make more profit, then it is seen that later there is a lot of loss in that trading, so greed is mostly responsible for losing on the trading platform.
A lot of professional traders has been advising people on this and also the forum members. and now you also say the same thing, this show that greediness really has a greatest effect on traders. You may be a looser due to greediness, patients is the key to success in every aspect of life, including trading.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: MUGNIA on February 02, 2025, 04:13:22 PM
First; we all must understand that trading is something of patience,we needs more time to study the market,traders losses more because of impatient,greed,and also fear of loosing,the moments you start exhibiting this unethical behaviour in trading you stand the chance to loose than profiting.

profit, loss, win, lose is the law in everyday life so if we get a loss from one event such as trading is a natural thing in my opinion because we don't always have to be lucky, in my opinion in one trade it takes patience and timeliness so that we do not experience losses where if we feel sure about one trade and profit target then if one currency goes down we should not panic and rashly sell our assets, because where there is a decline one day there will definitely be an increase even though it takes a long time,
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: bhadz on February 02, 2025, 07:43:05 PM
But too much confidence also can lose that much trading capital. That's why many traders lose because they thought that they are confident with their strength in trading and the skills that they have. But the reality gets them wrong that it's not for everybody. Even how good you are in trading, there will be the days that are going to be bloody and will incur losses. This is the sad reality in trading and that's why many still lose but I agree that with risk management and being content with how much profit made is going to make a trader farther with better results.

We are still facing uncertain conditions, where many Coins and altcoins are moving in unclear directions. Many whipsaw patterns are formed, and frauds occur to liquidate or chase stop losses. A few days ago Mr. Powell speak and it is important for us to understand the US economic conditions so that the market direction will be clearer. Volatility will be crazy before and after the speech.
Volatility is uncontrollable but they are influential enough to make it in the way where they want it to be. And for that reason, those that have been trading for so long understands that whatever is the fundamentals, that's how they will go with because it's also a factor that's very affecting the market.  Whoever can stand with the volatility of the crypto market will survive and profit but as I have said, not everyone.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: rizqillah on February 02, 2025, 11:04:53 PM

Volatility is uncontrollable but they are influential enough to make it in the way where they want it to be. And for that reason, those that have been trading for so long understands that whatever is the fundamentals, that's how they will go with because it's also a factor that's very affecting the market.  Whoever can stand with the volatility of the crypto market will survive and profit but as I have said, not everyone.
Crypto market volatility is indeed something that no one can control, but we can profit from it by trading, I agree with you for those who can survive and take advantage of this crypto volatility, they will profit. This is what is interesting in crypto trading. It takes expertise in making the right analysis and strategy.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: UNIVERSE on February 02, 2025, 11:15:26 PM
Crypto market volatility is indeed something that no one can control, but we can profit from it by trading, I agree with you for those who can survive and take advantage of this crypto volatility, they will profit. This is what is interesting in crypto trading. It takes expertise in making the right analysis and strategy.
Of course, no one can control crypto market. No one can control the prices of crypto coins. And no one can control the volatility of the crypto coin prices. What we can do is to deal with the volatility, we can take the advantage from the volatility. Because of the volatility, we can buy at a very cheap price and we can sell at a very high price. Without the volatility, we never have the chance to get a very significant profit. Sure, this makes crypto investment to be interesting. So, the volatility is something important in crypto.

Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: DavetJack on February 03, 2025, 11:49:28 AM
First; we all must understand that trading is something of patience,we needs more time to study the market,traders losses more because of impatient,greed,and also fear of loosing,the moments you start exhibiting this unethical behaviour in trading you stand the chance to loose than profiting.

Many people going into trading were doing that out of passion and they lack the right understanding to how they should first started, trading is never a big deal to do, but some of us may not really have the idea of running the perfect trading pattern that will make us get it right, its more better not to have started than starting what we don't know about and be on losses at the end of the day.

Actually, it would be wrong to say that trading is not that easy or that difficult. Because when we see someone trading and he makes a profit, we think that if I also trade, maybe I can do so much. Thinking about this, we also go into trading without knowing about the market. After coming into trading like this, when we lose, we regret it. But brother, in trading like this, we will actually lose 100%. That is why if we are going to move forward in something, then first we have to know everything about it, understand it, and then maybe we will move forward. This trading subject is that first we have to know the market. There are many more logics, we need to know about the logics. And if you have an idea about cryptocurrency and have an idea about the market, have an idea about logic, then you can start from a limited point.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: JISAN on February 03, 2025, 05:11:54 PM
Crypto market volatility is indeed something that no one can control, but we can profit from it by trading, I agree with you for those who can survive and take advantage of this crypto volatility, they will profit. This is what is interesting in crypto trading. It takes expertise in making the right analysis and strategy.
Of course, no one can control crypto market. No one can control the prices of crypto coins. And no one can control the volatility of the crypto coin prices. What we can do is to deal with the volatility, we can take the advantage from the volatility. Because of the volatility, we can buy at a very cheap price and we can sell at a very high price. Without the volatility, we never have the chance to get a very significant profit. Sure, this makes crypto investment to be interesting. So, the volatility is something important in crypto.
How do you identify when a price is a chip for a coin? Like today suddenly the market took a big down and Altcoins down more than 25% how do you know which coin you should buy at what price. Those who do short trading thus make large losses due to various unusual movements in the market. They may make small profits at times but lose on average by taking big losses at once. so no matter how professional a short term trader is they cannot make much profit on average
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: Stuart on February 04, 2025, 03:38:56 PM
Trading with risk management is profitable to those who knows the importance of managing the capital in their portfolio, and knowing how it is before having such capital.
But too much confidence also can lose that much trading capital. That's why many traders lose because they thought that they are confident with their strength in trading and the skills that they have. But the reality gets them wrong that it's not for everybody. Even how good you are in trading, there will be the days that are going to be bloody and will incur losses. This is the sad reality in trading and that's why many still lose but I agree that with risk management and being content with how much profit made is going to make a trader farther with better results.

In plainness of speech and accepting reality, there is always losses. Losses and gains works together in businesses and even in investment, and that doesn't exclude it from happening in all forms of online trading. With the presences of losses, there will be respect for profits and that will give need for loss management being put into plan and consideration.

When there is too much confidence, important things are being let lose, which then brings closer to facing a huge loss, and which could cause crippling of one's trading account.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: rizqillah on February 05, 2025, 11:40:49 PM
Trading with risk management is profitable to those who knows the importance of managing the capital in their portfolio, and knowing how it is before having such capital.
But too much confidence also can lose that much trading capital. That's why many traders lose because they thought that they are confident with their strength in trading and the skills that they have. But the reality gets them wrong that it's not for everybody. Even how good you are in trading, there will be the days that are going to be bloody and will incur losses. This is the sad reality in trading and that's why many still lose but I agree that with risk management and being content with how much profit made is going to make a trader farther with better results.

In plainness of speech and accepting reality, there is always losses. Losses and gains works together in businesses and even in investment, and that doesn't exclude it from happening in all forms of online trading. With the presences of losses, there will be respect for profits and that will give need for loss management being put into plan and consideration.

When there is too much confidence, important things are being let lose, which then brings closer to facing a huge loss, and which could cause crippling of one's trading account.
In trading or investment we will always face profits and losses, but with the knowledge and experience we have, we can minimize losses and gain profits. I also sometimes lose and will continue to rise to find profits to cover my losses with more focus and caution.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: DragonF on February 06, 2025, 02:52:46 PM
In trading or investment we will always face profits and losses, but with the knowledge and experience we have, we can minimize losses and gain profits. I also sometimes lose and will continue to rise to find profits to cover my losses with more focus and caution.

The profit will come from in-depth analysis. Without a doubt, profit is what drives all trading, but a trader should not focus solely on profit and ignore his analysis. Since analysis is what generates profits, a lack of thorough analysis may prevent a trader from making well-informed decisions. 

Instead of freaking out over losses, I believe a trader should learn from them. In trading, losses are inevitable. Even though a trader wants to make money, they must also be prepared to lose because things will not always go as planned. 
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: ajiz138 on February 06, 2025, 03:41:12 PM
In trading or investment we will always face profits and losses, but with the knowledge and experience we have, we can minimize losses and gain profits. I also sometimes lose and will continue to rise to find profits to cover my losses with more focus and caution.

The profit will come from in-depth analysis. Without a doubt, profit is what drives all trading, but a trader should not focus solely on profit and ignore his analysis. Since analysis is what generates profits, a lack of thorough analysis may prevent a trader from making well-informed decisions. 

Instead of freaking out over losses, I believe a trader should learn from them. In trading, losses are inevitable. Even though a trader wants to make money, they must also be prepared to lose because things will not always go as planned.
losses can never be separated from trading, at least that's what we always remind ourselves. Because it is impossible to eliminate losses, even very professional people will never be free from losses.

As you said, every loss that is felt must be an experience and a lesson that we must take to make the next trade.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: DragonF on February 06, 2025, 05:57:39 PM
losses can never be separated from trading, at least that's what we always remind ourselves. Because it is impossible to eliminate losses, even very professional people will never be free from losses.

As you said, every loss that is felt must be an experience and a lesson that we must take to make the next trade.

I think the problem is not the losses, as all traders understand how trading works, but rather the possibility of still profiting after a series of losses. This is also what distinguishes a professional trader. As you mentioned, even professionals experience losses, but these losses do not deter the trader because every good trader knows that he will profit and would only hope that the profits from trading are sufficient to offset the losses. The joy of trading is to always be in profit.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: bhadz on February 06, 2025, 06:36:47 PM
Trading with risk management is profitable to those who knows the importance of managing the capital in their portfolio, and knowing how it is before having such capital.
But too much confidence also can lose that much trading capital. That's why many traders lose because they thought that they are confident with their strength in trading and the skills that they have. But the reality gets them wrong that it's not for everybody. Even how good you are in trading, there will be the days that are going to be bloody and will incur losses. This is the sad reality in trading and that's why many still lose but I agree that with risk management and being content with how much profit made is going to make a trader farther with better results.

In plainness of speech and accepting reality, there is always losses. Losses and gains works together in businesses and even in investment, and that doesn't exclude it from happening in all forms of online trading. With the presences of losses, there will be respect for profits and that will give need for loss management being put into plan and consideration.

When there is too much confidence, important things are being let lose, which then brings closer to facing a huge loss, and which could cause crippling of one's trading account.
I agree about having the presence of losses. This makes us even wiser when we are encountering some matters in the market and when it's crucial, We consider taking profits because we have experienced losing before and that should be avoided when we bounce back. That mistake is being learned by many right now and those that didn't take their profits on 2021. And for thi year of 2024 and 2025, for sure that many have taken theirs already even this cycle hasn't ended yet.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: JISAN on February 06, 2025, 07:13:49 PM
Trading with risk management is profitable to those who knows the importance of managing the capital in their portfolio, and knowing how it is before having such capital.
But too much confidence also can lose that much trading capital. That's why many traders lose because they thought that they are confident with their strength in trading and the skills that they have. But the reality gets them wrong that it's not for everybody. Even how good you are in trading, there will be the days that are going to be bloody and will incur losses. This is the sad reality in trading and that's why many still lose but I agree that with risk management and being content with how much profit made is going to make a trader farther with better results.

In plainness of speech and accepting reality, there is always losses. Losses and gains works together in businesses and even in investment, and that doesn't exclude it from happening in all forms of online trading. With the presences of losses, there will be respect for profits and that will give need for loss management being put into plan and consideration.

When there is too much confidence, important things are being let lose, which then brings closer to facing a huge loss, and which could cause crippling of one's trading account.
I agree about having the presence of losses. This makes us even wiser when we are encountering some matters in the market and when it's crucial, We consider taking profits because we have experienced losing before and that should be avoided when we bounce back. That mistake is being learned by many right now and those that didn't take their profits on 2021. And for thi year of 2024 and 2025, for sure that many have taken theirs already even this cycle hasn't ended yet.
A trader does not stop trading until he has capital.  I have a friend who does short trading and that is futures trading.  And from there he profits 2-10$ per trade.  But he is not satisfied with that profit.  From trading again and again he lost his profit and his own funds completely.  Those who trade short gradually lose control of themselves and become greedy.  So in the last stage loss amount is seen more than profit in them.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: milewilda on February 07, 2025, 12:12:00 PM
Trading with risk management is profitable to those who knows the importance of managing the capital in their portfolio, and knowing how it is before having such capital.
But too much confidence also can lose that much trading capital. That's why many traders lose because they thought that they are confident with their strength in trading and the skills that they have. But the reality gets them wrong that it's not for everybody. Even how good you are in trading, there will be the days that are going to be bloody and will incur losses. This is the sad reality in trading and that's why many still lose but I agree that with risk management and being content with how much profit made is going to make a trader farther with better results.

In plainness of speech and accepting reality, there is always losses. Losses and gains works together in businesses and even in investment, and that doesn't exclude it from happening in all forms of online trading. With the presences of losses, there will be respect for profits and that will give need for loss management being put into plan and consideration.

When there is too much confidence, important things are being let lose, which then brings closer to facing a huge loss, and which could cause crippling of one's trading account.
In trading or investment we will always face profits and losses, but with the knowledge and experience we have, we can minimize losses and gain profits. I also sometimes lose and will continue to rise to find profits to cover my losses with more focus and caution.
Profits and loses on which these are the only things on which you will really be able to experience when you are doing trading. Skills will be that differ into each other because not all traders will be having on the same skill level and capacity on how to deal up with this volatile market on which we know that its never been that easy. If you are someone who doesnt really like to deal up with loses then trading isnt for you because once you do step your foot into this volatile market then it is really that normal that you will be facing up these situation and this will really be that survival of the fittest if we do speak about money making but its part that loses will really be on the way. Thing here is on how you do sustain yourself on this market.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: dave_strider on February 07, 2025, 12:23:12 PM
losses can never be separated from trading, at least that's what we always remind ourselves. Because it is impossible to eliminate losses, even very professional people will never be free from losses.

As you said, every loss that is felt must be an experience and a lesson that we must take to make the next trade.

I think the problem is not the losses, as all traders understand how trading works, but rather the possibility of still profiting after a series of losses. This is also what distinguishes a professional trader. As you mentioned, even professionals experience losses, but these losses do not deter the trader because every good trader knows that he will profit and would only hope that the profits from trading are sufficient to offset the losses. The joy of trading is to always be in profit.

Traders that are new to the sphere are probably having more losses than profits, if not most of them.
If they would work out and properly manage risks, they would drop said losses down, increasing their profits and driving themselves to new heights. Even if they make 60/40 ratio of good positions over bad ones, they would still be in a good shape to move forward.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: philipma1957 on February 07, 2025, 02:08:53 PM
I have noticed this behaviour amongst beginner traders, in any bull market period you can make plenty money without being knowledgeable about trading, the hard part is once this period ends and you continue trading, you'll start losing.

..and I am not sure under which category this behaviour falls in. Is it impatience, greed or fomo?

It is the inability to accept reality.

I trade kind of but I have a five part plan of trade.

pretend I have 100,000 usd to work with along with 30,000 in mining gear. grand total of 130,000

33,000 in cash on the side lines
33,000 in btc on the side lines

34,000 is the working amount. that is at risk

along with 30,000 in mining gear.


take 10,000 of the 34,000 working mount as cash

set up a buy ladder down

89.1
87.1
85.1
83.1
81.1
79.1
all the way to
42.1  in $200 dollar steps

keep 14,000 in btc as your mining hodl and when coins are 90 to 110k stack stack stack stack stack and hodl that pile.


set up a sell ladder up.

111k
113k
115k
117k
119k
121k
all the way to
161k in 200$ steps.

what are your risks

 well the exchange could be robbed I use coins the the cash on coinbase is insured but you could lose the coins around 17k in coins maybe 14k


the miner host could burn down and you could lose 30k in gear.


so of the 130,000 in value dedicated to crypto on any day you could lose maybe 45k.

other risk a super crash could devalue your coins maybe 50k


but the example above that entire 130k is all profit and it in the event of a super worst case drops to 33k in sidelines cash plus a cash claim on coinbase of maybe 17k

so the works case it the 130k becomes 50k. it is still all profit.

Sideways in the 90-110 slot works best as you grow your stack.


and the pair of aces in the hole are selling stuff on ebay along with posting here and bitcointalk to earn more.

My biggest danger is to go off track and over expand the mining which exposes me to my host going bad.

Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: ajiz138 on February 07, 2025, 04:15:27 PM
losses can never be separated from trading, at least that's what we always remind ourselves. Because it is impossible to eliminate losses, even very professional people will never be free from losses.

As you said, every loss that is felt must be an experience and a lesson that we must take to make the next trade.

I think the problem is not the losses, as all traders understand how trading works, but rather the possibility of still profiting after a series of losses. This is also what distinguishes a professional trader. As you mentioned, even professionals experience losses, but these losses do not deter the trader because every good trader knows that he will profit and would only hope that the profits from trading are sufficient to offset the losses. The joy of trading is to always be in profit.
In other words, you can recover from the losses you experience and in the next trade you must make a profit. You are right, this is what really differentiates a professional trader from a non-professional, especially if it is a beginner.

Mentality and experience will speak here, because those who are professional will know what to do when they feel a loss and that is certainly the main thing.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: rizqillah on February 07, 2025, 09:50:55 PM
losses can never be separated from trading, at least that's what we always remind ourselves. Because it is impossible to eliminate losses, even very professional people will never be free from losses.

As you said, every loss that is felt must be an experience and a lesson that we must take to make the next trade.

I think the problem is not the losses, as all traders understand how trading works, but rather the possibility of still profiting after a series of losses. This is also what distinguishes a professional trader. As you mentioned, even professionals experience losses, but these losses do not deter the trader because every good trader knows that he will profit and would only hope that the profits from trading are sufficient to offset the losses. The joy of trading is to always be in profit.
In other words, you can recover from the losses you experience and in the next trade you must make a profit. You are right, this is what really differentiates a professional trader from a non-professional, especially if it is a beginner.

Mentality and experience will speak here, because those who are professional will know what to do when they feel a loss and that is certainly the main thing.
A newbie will panic when experiencing a loss, but an experienced person will feel calm and more focused on making a profit, with the aim of covering the losses that have been suffered.
This is not easy because it takes experience and skills in making analysis and formulating the right strategy.
in trading it takes a long time to have experience and expertise.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: dekafee79 on February 07, 2025, 09:53:11 PM

Profits and loses on which these are the only things on which you will really be able to experience when you are doing trading. Skills will be that differ into each other because not all traders will be having on the same skill level and capacity on how to deal up with this volatile market on which we know that its never been that easy. If you are someone who doesnt really like to deal up with loses then trading isnt for you because once you do step your foot into this volatile market then it is really that normal that you will be facing up these situation and this will really be that survival of the fittest if we do speak about money making but its part that loses will really be on the way. Thing here is on how you do sustain yourself on this market.
If you don't want to experience losses, buy bitcoin during the bearish season and hold it until the bullish season, we will benefit from it.
while in trading we will always be faced with a very volatile crypto market, so losses will always be there because our analysis and strategy may be wrong and we will experience losses.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on February 08, 2025, 04:34:45 AM
Mentality and experience will speak here, because those who are professional will know what to do when they feel a loss and that is certainly the main thing.
One of the things that you have to be careful about is that, knowing how to handle losses when trading, some people can't stand it and never trade again, and that's something that shouldn't be the case, both trading and other activities like gambling need to be able to handle losses very well, it's difficult but it's possible, so the important thing about trading is trying to keep a more positive balance than a negative one. Being profitable in trading is difficult, but not impossible.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: sagarmota10 on February 08, 2025, 06:01:00 AM
Question itself the answer many history data clear the answer that the trader at last get loses due to overtrade or over quantity position in future.

For minimize loss we have to follow strategy and strictly apply stop loss while trading. Also need to trade with minimum fund which can not affect your mental health.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: bhadz on February 08, 2025, 08:03:29 AM
I agree about having the presence of losses. This makes us even wiser when we are encountering some matters in the market and when it's crucial, We consider taking profits because we have experienced losing before and that should be avoided when we bounce back. That mistake is being learned by many right now and those that didn't take their profits on 2021. And for thi year of 2024 and 2025, for sure that many have taken theirs already even this cycle hasn't ended yet.
A trader does not stop trading until he has capital.  I have a friend who does short trading and that is futures trading.  And from there he profits 2-10$ per trade.  But he is not satisfied with that profit.  From trading again and again he lost his profit and his own funds completely.  Those who trade short gradually lose control of themselves and become greedy.  So in the last stage loss amount is seen more than profit in them.
That is because of greed and if your friend wasn't greedy at all and became consistent doing what he has to do, it is for sure that he'd not make a mistake. Being consistent for $2 to $10 profit per trade is already a lot when he's consistent. Considering if he had made around 5-10 trades per day, that's a lot of extra money already that he can reinvest to the market and make some more through reinvesting that profit into capital for buying BTC.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: Crypto Library on February 08, 2025, 09:16:13 AM
That is because of greed and if your friend wasn't greedy at all and became consistent doing what he has to do, it is for sure that he'd not make a mistake. Being consistent for $2 to $10 profit per trade is already a lot when he's consistent. Considering if he had made around 5-10 trades per day, that's a lot of extra money already that he can reinvest to the market and make some more through reinvesting that profit into capital for buying BTC.
The most important thing is whether he is actually making two to ten dollars a day in profit by trading futures, is he actually doing it with his analysis skills or the trading skills, or is he just using his 6th sense to take trades, which I would call less trading and more gambling.
If he uses his trading skills and makes a profit of 5 to 10 dollars, then I think it is quite enough amount for starting. But here we have to control our greed and think realistically, otherwise we will face losses by investing all the funds together like that person.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: bitcoin-shark on February 08, 2025, 12:50:40 PM
Before starting such a risky activity as trading, people should research well on how it works, study the subject in depth, the market trend and the graphs otherwise losses are almost inevitable.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: milewilda on February 08, 2025, 02:16:38 PM
Before starting such a risky activity as trading, people should research well on how it works, study the subject in depth, the market trend and the graphs otherwise losses are almost inevitable.
Loses is indeed completely inevitable on which there's no way that you can make yourself having no loses or will be making up such perfect trades on which we know that this cant be possible. No matter how good you are or how professional you are but still you are that prone to loses on which it will be that understandable because the market really that unpredictable and there's no way that you can be able to make yourself that know on what will happen into this market. The important thing on here is that you do really know on what you should gonna do whatever the market owuld really be that having whether bearish or bullish sentiment.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: ajiz138 on February 08, 2025, 04:14:19 PM
Mentality and experience will speak here, because those who are professional will know what to do when they feel a loss and that is certainly the main thing.
One of the things that you have to be careful about is that, knowing how to handle losses when trading, some people can't stand it and never trade again, and that's something that shouldn't be the case, both trading and other activities like gambling need to be able to handle losses very well, it's difficult but it's possible, so the important thing about trading is trying to keep a more positive balance than a negative one. Being profitable in trading is difficult, but not impossible.
It requires very good financial management, and it also requires risk management, because when someone feels a loss, usually it is all from their capital, this is something that should not happen, because to return to trading they need time to collect capital again.

By implementing risk management, all of that can be avoided because we can minimize losses so that they are not too big and burdensome for us.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: Vx1 on February 08, 2025, 06:15:34 PM
First; we all must understand that trading is something of patience,we needs more time to study the market,traders losses more because of impatient,greed,and also fear of loosing,the moments you start exhibiting this unethical behaviour in trading you stand the chance to loose than profiting.
Actually, there is not more loss than profit in crypto trading, but if we are reckless in making trading transactions, I believe that we will lose more. In crypto trading, experience, patience are very much needed.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: UNIVERSE on February 08, 2025, 11:17:27 PM
Actually, there is not more loss than profit in crypto trading, but if we are reckless in making trading transactions, I believe that we will lose more. In crypto trading, experience, patience are very much needed.
If you have no good skills in trading, it is possible that you have more losses than profits in trading. But if you must have more profits if you have sufficient knowledge, experience, and ability. It depends on those basic matters, trading isn't about luck. However, it means the chance for profits can be higher if we make serious efforts in learning trading. That's why we must spend time for take lesson on the basic things in trading when we are newbies. It is because the importance of knowledge.


Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: MUGNIA on February 09, 2025, 01:39:06 PM
Before starting such a risky activity as trading, people should research well on how it works, study the subject in depth, the market trend and the graphs otherwise losses are almost inevitable.
This way of working is what often makes us trapped in trading, taking the wrong steps in choosing coins, not to mention we don't understand the right time to buy and sell the coins we have, but in trading if you don't experience a loss it is impossible, so here we have to keep learning how to minimize that loss, everyone keeps learning
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: rizqillah on February 09, 2025, 05:51:28 PM
Before starting such a risky activity as trading, people should research well on how it works, study the subject in depth, the market trend and the graphs otherwise losses are almost inevitable.
This way of working is what often makes us trapped in trading, taking the wrong steps in choosing coins, not to mention we don't understand the right time to buy and sell the coins we have, but in trading if you don't experience a loss it is impossible, so here we have to keep learning how to minimize that loss, everyone keeps learning
You are right in trading we will experience loss, and from that mistake we must learn and always practice so that the same mistake is not repeated.
It takes experience and skills in trading to become a professional, but unfortunately I don't have much time to learn trading to become a professional.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: Marivic27 on February 11, 2025, 12:51:54 PM
Many trader loss on trading because they don't have patience, and most of the trader also are greedy, it is normal because we always wanted to have a big profit, so we don't stop trading until we loss at the end and regret for not getting the small profit that we already earn earlier that was maybe the main reason.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: Vx1 on February 11, 2025, 05:16:43 PM
Many trader loss on trading because they don't have patience, and most of the trader also are greedy, it is normal because we always wanted to have a big profit, so we don't stop trading until we loss at the end and regret for not getting the small profit that we already earn earlier that was maybe the main reason.
On average, that's why personal experience is needed if we want to succeed in this crypto trading. At the beginning of trading, we must have experienced it, loss, impatience, greedy wanting to get more profit but not big profit that we get but loss. From that experience I think we will learn to be better in the next trade.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: enwi on February 11, 2025, 11:35:34 PM
Many trader loss on trading because they don't have patience, and most of the trader also are greedy, it is normal because we always wanted to have a big profit, so we don't stop trading until we loss at the end and regret for not getting the small profit that we already earn earlier that was maybe the main reason.
On average, that's why personal experience is needed if we want to succeed in this crypto trading. At the beginning of trading, we must have experienced it, loss, impatience, greedy wanting to get more profit but not big profit that we get but loss. From that experience I think we will learn to be better in the next trade.
There will always be a time where you will be in a situation in your crypto trading especially when you are new in it. Indeed, there are moments of overconfidence, when it is desired to continue increasing profits and not entertain the idea about potential losses, which might happen in a business. But in each of these situations, one gets a chance to learn, develop and enhance the ways in which one can make decisions to be wiser in future. Two of them are patience and self-control because if one lacks them it merely brings stagnation. Hence, the following proposition presents the need for continuing to learn from each incident, so as to be prepared for various market conditions that are ever changing.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: vegasus on February 11, 2025, 11:47:54 PM
Before starting such a risky activity as trading, people should research well on how it works, study the subject in depth, the market trend and the graphs otherwise losses are almost inevitable.
Exactly, and this has often been conveyed in various opportunities and information. It's just that why do people still experience high losses, especially when trading, and there are even those who really like gambling, because they don't start it well. They may not do in-depth research, prepare understanding in terms of knowledge, and also prepare mentally and emotionally when trading. So when trading, it's just haphazard and has a very high risk of losing money very easily.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: Celph on February 12, 2025, 01:02:24 AM
First; we all must understand that trading is something of patience,we needs more time to study the market,traders losses more because of impatient,greed,and also fear of loosing,the moments you start exhibiting this unethical behaviour in trading you stand the chance to loose than profiting.
I think what influences losses mostly while trading is fear and greed.
    These two agents have a compatible way of influencing the mindset of  most traders which basically incures losses while investing.i see greed itself as the most powerful factor between the both mainly cause of the sole factor of the human nature which partains to always want more,we are never okay and that’s just what incures losses while investing too.Trading is basically a ground for earning while investing with the right decisions and when most investors stars to see this,they tend to think earjongs always comes easily thereby risking more even without making the right investment decision in a bid to make more profits. 
    On the aspect of fear,people who have to been bred into the ups and downs of the market tends to get emotional disbalances though any slight movement in the market and might make certain decisions as a result of not wanting to incure losses at all.i think under this factor(fear) we see the concept or not having proper risk management.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: omori on February 12, 2025, 01:16:46 PM
Exactly, and this has often been conveyed in various opportunities and information. It's just that why do people still experience high losses, especially when trading, and there are even those who really like gambling, because they don't start it well. They may not do in-depth research, prepare understanding in terms of knowledge, and also prepare mentally and emotionally when trading. So when trading, it's just haphazard and has a very high risk of losing money very easily.

For people like that, the market becomes the predator, not the prey.
And rightfully so - if you don't look at risks clearly, you can't hope to see profits for yourself in the end.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: bitterguy28 on February 12, 2025, 02:20:18 PM
There will always be a time where you will be in a situation in your crypto trading especially when you are new in it. Indeed, there are moments of overconfidence, when it is desired to continue increasing profits and not entertain the idea about potential losses, which might happen in a business.
overconfidence can be a result of some luck and good execution from the trader a newbie may get lucky with timing so even if he only knows very basic foundation of trading he was able to make some good profit but sometimes the market is a lot trickier than this and would require far more advanced skills and tools which a newbie may not have so the next time a challenge is faced by a trader they do not know what to do and they never bothered to learn since at this point they were already too confident
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: vegasus on February 13, 2025, 10:37:20 PM
Exactly, and this has often been conveyed in various opportunities and information. It's just that why do people still experience high losses, especially when trading, and there are even those who really like gambling, because they don't start it well. They may not do in-depth research, prepare understanding in terms of knowledge, and also prepare mentally and emotionally when trading. So when trading, it's just haphazard and has a very high risk of losing money very easily.

For people like that, the market becomes the predator, not the prey.
And rightfully so - if you don't look at risks clearly, you can't hope to see profits for yourself in the end.
Yes, because understanding the risks that exist can make us aware and try to manage the risks, and equip ourselves with good knowledge to avoid or at least minimize much higher risks. Indeed, crypto trading is not something easy, not something that only sets a buy price and then sells at a high price. The basic concept may be like that, but in practice, it is much more complicated than just buying at a low price and selling at a high price. Because we have to analyze first what coins are potential, and at what rate it is possible to buy, then if for trading, then also think about the SL that will be set to avoid greater losses, and also profit at some target to avoid greed.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: albon on February 14, 2025, 11:10:13 AM
Many trader loss on trading because they don't have patience, and most of the trader also are greedy, it is normal because we always wanted to have a big profit, so we don't stop trading until we loss at the end and regret for not getting the small profit that we already earn earlier that was maybe the main reason.

We often discuss with ambitious traders about the possibility of success and sustainable profits in the financial market. Many people are curious about trading success rates and it is worth investing in time and energy to learn how to trade. Some people think that entering the market should be easy and as a businessman should be rich as a businessman, especially if they find a profitable trading system where others have succeeded. You should try with small money for each practice and you can do trading with big money whenever you go to profit at each step.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: CoinHolder on February 14, 2025, 02:40:07 PM
If you take some important aspects in trading, it becomes very easy to achieve the success of training. Trading is really a patient activity, and it takes time to understand market variability and analyze the situation correctly. Most businessmen decide quickly due to greed or fear, which can lead to their loss. To succeed in trading, we need to maintain mental stability and monitor the market from a long-term perspective. Hey, if you can control all these things correctly, you will be successful in trading inshaAllah. So you’ll always work with cold heads, of course you’ll be all good and save all the time.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on February 14, 2025, 11:03:13 PM
For me it is simple, it is because of desperation and poor management of information, so given these things we always fall into what some youtubers, Gurus and others Say, I think that this eagerness is what makes most people lose.

If we accepted that trading should be seen as a business, Everything would improve Significantly, and that is a fact that can happen like this, Misinformation is what makes people fail a lot and makes people not want to study.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: alltalk on February 14, 2025, 11:16:16 PM
Many trader loss on trading because they don't have patience, and most of the trader also are greedy, it is normal because we always wanted to have a big profit, so we don't stop trading until we loss at the end and regret for not getting the small profit that we already earn earlier that was maybe the main reason.
Basically, the traders who have no patience and become greedy, they have no good understanding about trading. If they understand well trading, they will never try to be greedy because it is an obstacle to succeed in trading. They must also to be patient because they never become professional traders if they have no patience. These are actually the basic things in trading and investment.  :)


Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: dekafee79 on February 14, 2025, 11:50:15 PM
For me it is simple, it is because of desperation and poor management of information, so given these things we always fall into what some youtubers, Gurus and others Say, I think that this eagerness is what makes most people lose.

If we accepted that trading should be seen as a business, Everything would improve Significantly, and that is a fact that can happen like this, Misinformation is what makes people fail a lot and makes people not want to study.
we must be smart in receiving information and do not be influenced if we have not done research and analysis.
because there is a lot of FUD being spread. We must be able to distinguish between good news and bad news so that we do not panic or become greedy. So that we trade according to the strategy we have created.
many people experience losses due to lack of knowledge and expertise in formulating strategies in investment.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: Didia Sofunichi on February 15, 2025, 07:48:53 PM
There's so much greed now in business, a lot of traders are interested in maximizing profit instead of profit making and it's a problem. When some traders apply lots of greed they end up paying dearly by loosing
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: Didia Sofunichi on February 15, 2025, 07:51:07 PM
Ideally, a beginner should learn the fundamentals of trading before considering making profits from it, but this is not what most beginners do. Most beginners enter trading with the expectation of making money right away. This zeal is understandable given that many traders' primary goal is to profit from trading.

However, gains are derived from learning. Patience is essential for learning. Only a patient beginner will be eager to learn trading from an expert trader. Trading is similar to school; you do not start today and expect to graduate today. It is a gradual process; you must learn before you can gain, and learning often includes losses.

Yes, because they want to make profit right away they become impatient and they don't have the ability to read the market and know when to invest and withdraw. Its a common problem among beginers and greedy traders
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on February 17, 2025, 04:08:37 PM
many people experience losses due to lack of knowledge and expertise in formulating strategies in investment.

This is very common nowadays, generally people who are looking for information on how to win in trading, how to become a little more profitable can come across many trading gurus, where they make it seem like they have a life full of luxuries and many other things, obviously everyone wants to do that and have a life like that and it is the easiest way they fall, through ignorance and by taking Advantage of those illusions, that is what Everyone Should take care of , and not Fall for so many False things , that is the main problem there is.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: bitbit97 on February 17, 2025, 04:29:12 PM
The answer is simple, greed and market does not generate money itself. There will never be situation when there are only gainers. Someone must bring money and lose them. The more money a person has, the more chance to speculate and influence on the price he has. Since not every single one is a multi billionaire and there are only individuals (or large companies), they force to sell with a loss by manipulating price. That is why there are more of those who lose and little of those who earn.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: Nheer on February 17, 2025, 08:03:13 PM
There's so much greed now in business, a lot of traders are interested in maximizing profit instead of profit making and it's a problem. When some traders apply lots of greed they end up paying dearly by loosing
Greediness is really a very big problem most new traders are facing they want to get all the big bag so fast that they end up losing and losing their capital and after that many new traders don’t come to trading again they find another source of income which they don’t know that it a lesson so when they return with new capital they will learn risk management and take profits no matter how little it is. Slowly but surely the capital will grow it just needs Patience and consistency which many new traders lack.
Try not to get greedy and accumulate the little profits and not make the market turn against you.  After a better analysis of market and thorough research you can hold for long and accumulate bigger profits. Apply risk management.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: milewilda on February 17, 2025, 08:35:03 PM
many people experience losses due to lack of knowledge and expertise in formulating strategies in investment.

This is very common nowadays, generally people who are looking for information on how to win in trading, how to become a little more profitable can come across many trading gurus, where they make it seem like they have a life full of luxuries and many other things, obviously everyone wants to do that and have a life like that and it is the easiest way they fall, through ignorance and by taking Advantage of those illusions, that is what Everyone Should take care of , and not Fall for so many False things , that is the main problem there is.
You would really be that distracted in lots of things when you are trying out to find up those things on which in related on how to make easy money with trading. You would really be ending up on going into those gurus and other groups on which sharing up those trading tips on which you do easily believe that it could work but actually it doesnt or simply there's no such thing about assurance or sure thing about gains or profitable trades. Market is unpredictable and there's no way that you can be able to assure out on being profitable but the best way is that you do able to learn up trading skills on which this is a life time skill that no one could be able to take it from you.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on February 17, 2025, 10:02:57 PM
The answer is simple, greed and market does not generate money itself. There will never be situation when there are only gainers. Someone must bring money and lose them. The more money a person has, the more chance to speculate and influence on the price he has. Since not every single one is a multi billionaire and there are only individuals (or large companies), they force to sell with a loss by manipulating price. That is why there are more of those who lose and little of those who earn.

If in part things are always very good when it comes to realizing Our mistakes, greed is the biggest of all the unbalancers in our trading, because we all always want more , it is something that is very difficult to get out of our heads, however when we are putting other things in Context it can be seen that when we manage to handle that small feeling of greed everything improves, but for that a Previous money management plan is needed and to fully comply with it, if it is not done, then Unfortunately there will be no good results.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: Gurujebs on February 17, 2025, 10:48:00 PM
On average, that's why personal experience is needed if we want to succeed in this crypto trading. At the beginning of trading, we must have experienced it, loss, impatience, greedy wanting to get more profit but not big profit that we get but loss. From that experience I think we will learn to be better in the next trade.

Some people don't know that there are difference between real trading and demo trading. When you trade on demo, you have confidence to do anything on the chart and take any trades that you like but the moment you start doing real trading, emotions comes in and everything you do in the test phase disappear, this is why you need real experience than the demo trading.

Having experience don't juts gives you confidence of trading, the experience gives you the knowledge required to move around the crypto market, it saves you from the things you have seen before because as they say, knowledge is everything.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: enwi on February 19, 2025, 11:18:32 AM
On average, that's why personal experience is needed if we want to succeed in this crypto trading. At the beginning of trading, we must have experienced it, loss, impatience, greedy wanting to get more profit but not big profit that we get but loss. From that experience I think we will learn to be better in the next trade.

Some people don't know that there are difference between real trading and demo trading. When you trade on demo, you have confidence to do anything on the chart and take any trades that you like but the moment you start doing real trading, emotions comes in and everything you do in the test phase disappear, this is why you need real experience than the demo trading.

Having experience don't juts gives you confidence of trading, the experience gives you the knowledge required to move around the crypto market, it saves you from the things you have seen before because as they say, knowledge is everything.
The way of implementing patterns, and testing strategies while using a demo account has no risk involved, but it does not mimic actual trading environment. Real money trading introduce emotions which are normally frozen during simulation, so having experience helps to determine how one is going to handle various incidences in the trading period. Practical experience is valuable as it gives an individual a better feel of how they are going to handle pressure, how to deal with risks, and how one is going to adapt to fluctuation. Experience on the other hand makes it easy for you to handle events related to that particular course due to past happening. Being aware and having good preparation in each and every move that one has to make enhances the confidence and the decision making process. Consequently, it downplays the idea that trade liberalisation is enough to bring about economic development since there are various challenges found online in the world of crypto trading.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on February 19, 2025, 04:42:00 PM
       -      It is said, right, that when a school has an exam for students, if they don't study, they definitely don't know the correct answer to the paper exam they will take. This means that the students didn't study or studied well, so they failed the exam.

The same is true here in trading, if you want to make a profit here, you should study and you should also know the basics so that we don't burn the capital
that we will use in trading activities.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: milewilda on February 21, 2025, 06:20:05 PM
On average, that's why personal experience is needed if we want to succeed in this crypto trading. At the beginning of trading, we must have experienced it, loss, impatience, greedy wanting to get more profit but not big profit that we get but loss. From that experience I think we will learn to be better in the next trade.

Some people don't know that there are difference between real trading and demo trading. When you trade on demo, you have confidence to do anything on the chart and take any trades that you like but the moment you start doing real trading, emotions comes in and everything you do in the test phase disappear, this is why you need real experience than the demo trading.

Having experience don't juts gives you confidence of trading, the experience gives you the knowledge required to move around the crypto market, it saves you from the things you have seen before because as they say, knowledge is everything.
The way of implementing patterns, and testing strategies while using a demo account has no risk involved, but it does not mimic actual trading environment. Real money trading introduce emotions which are normally frozen during simulation, so having experience helps to determine how one is going to handle various incidences in the trading period. Practical experience is valuable as it gives an individual a better feel of how they are going to handle pressure, how to deal with risks, and how one is going to adapt to fluctuation. Experience on the other hand makes it easy for you to handle events related to that particular course due to past happening. Being aware and having good preparation in each and every move that one has to make enhances the confidence and the decision making process. Consequently, it downplays the idea that trade liberalisation is enough to bring about economic development since there are various challenges found online in the world of crypto trading.
When you are just that starting up with trading then having that demo trading is recommended but just like been said that its not something complete because the primary issue with demo is that you wont really be able to enhance up your emotion control and this is why at the time or moment you do deal up with live trading then this would really be that a huge problem because when you are really that dealing with the price volatility and using up your own money and seeing to be negative then it will be that giving that negativity on which this will be causing up that negativity and this can cause up some panic. This is why whenever you do already have that good grasps into the theories and terms then go directly with live trading as you do enhance your skills even more.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: rizqillah on February 21, 2025, 11:17:45 PM
       -      It is said, right, that when a school has an exam for students, if they don't study, they definitely don't know the correct answer to the paper exam they will take. This means that the students didn't study or studied well, so they failed the exam.

The same is true here in trading, if you want to make a profit here, you should study and you should also know the basics so that we don't burn the capital
that we will use in trading activities.
Good analogy, in exams we have to study in order to be able to work on the questions. And in trading we have to always study and practice in order to have knowledge and experience in trading so that we can maximize the profits we can get.
in trading requires analysis and sy=strategy, how to read charts and predict crypto market trends.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: enwi on February 24, 2025, 09:31:21 PM
       -      It is said, right, that when a school has an exam for students, if they don't study, they definitely don't know the correct answer to the paper exam they will take. This means that the students didn't study or studied well, so they failed the exam.

The same is true here in trading, if you want to make a profit here, you should study and you should also know the basics so that we don't burn the capital
that we will use in trading activities.
Good analogy, in exams we have to study in order to be able to work on the questions. And in trading we have to always study and practice in order to have knowledge and experience in trading so that we can maximize the profits we can get.
in trading requires analysis and sy=strategy, how to read charts and predict crypto market trends.
Yes, training and repetition can be defined as an integral part of any task we want to achieve, including the world of trading. The market is dynamic and does not operate in a normal cycle and this is why a knowledge of the pattern of the market price will enhance the decision making process. Effective analysis enables one to be more equipped to deal with occurrences that take place while choice of appropriate strategy plays a part in handling steps avoiding being a subject to Market variation. Also, flexibility and perseverance are also relevant aspects that must not be rushed into so that we do not make wrong decisions centring the outcomes. It also resulted in making us more confident and capable of facing any market situation since we constantly enhance our knowledge and expertise.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on February 26, 2025, 12:38:02 AM

Good analogy, in exams we have to study in order to be able to work on the questions. And in trading we have to always study and practice in order to have knowledge and experience in trading so that we can maximize the profits we can get.
in trading requires analysis and sy=strategy, how to read charts and predict crypto market trends.

For me all that is needed for trading , the more information we have, the more analysis and the better vision of the market we have, it is Nothing when you have many analysis tools when you do not even understand what is happening in the Market, it is difficult, when we determine that the market is in a stage of accumulation and we are Analyzing through a method it is much more viable, I think that there we are better off grabbing and Holding on to a market that can give us profits, of course everything depends on the way that people see the market.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: bitterguy28 on February 26, 2025, 06:43:35 AM
Good analogy, in exams we have to study in order to be able to work on the questions. And in trading we have to always study and practice in order to have knowledge and experience in trading so that we can maximize the profits we can get.
in trading requires analysis and sy=strategy, how to read charts and predict crypto market trends.
just shows how not everything you learn in school is completely useless lol but seriously speaking learning doesn’t stop in school or when you have exams in life it is constant and we are always on the process of learning whether it’s information we have to take somewhere intentionally or experiences we go through in life
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: yhiaali3 on February 26, 2025, 06:06:44 PM
For me all that is needed for trading , the more information we have, the more analysis and the better vision of the market we have, it is Nothing when you have many analysis tools when you do not even understand what is happening in the Market, it is difficult, when we determine that the market is in a stage of accumulation and we are Analyzing through a method it is much more viable, I think that there we are better off grabbing and Holding on to a market that can give us profits, of course everything depends on the way that people see the market.
Your words are correct in principle, but in reality we see that most people are heading towards quick profit, so most of them do not rely on analysis, but rather rely on recommendations in groups or trading bots, copy bots and sniping.

In addition, after the unnatural spread of meme coins, trading has become a stroke of luck because meme trading either makes huge profits or loses everything you have, there is no analysis in this type of trading, but rather it is a stroke of luck.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 04, 2025, 01:10:19 AM

Your words are correct in principle, but in reality we see that most people are heading towards quick profit, so most of them do not rely on analysis, but rather rely on recommendations in groups or trading bots, copy bots and sniping.

In addition, after the unnatural spread of meme coins, trading has become a stroke of luck because meme trading either makes huge profits or loses everything you have, there is no analysis in this type of trading, but rather it is a stroke of luck.

Well, when I was starting out in trading , I knew that scalping trading gave quick results, but what I didn't like was that I had to put in a lot of money, so I started trading long-term, medium-term, and well, I was learning, this is the date and I'm still Learning some fundamentals for trading futures, 1-minute trading, all this, because for each Temperature things changed, and that's what one must be clear about when trading, some things come true, others Don't.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: doc on March 04, 2025, 03:05:14 PM
For me all that is needed for trading , the more information we have, the more analysis and the better vision of the market we have, it is Nothing when you have many analysis tools when you do not even understand what is happening in the Market, it is difficult, when we determine that the market is in a stage of accumulation and we are Analyzing through a method it is much more viable, I think that there we are better off grabbing and Holding on to a market that can give us profits, of course everything depends on the way that people see the market.
Your words are correct in principle, but in reality we see that most people are heading towards quick profit, so most of them do not rely on analysis, but rather rely on recommendations in groups or trading bots, copy bots and sniping.

In addition, after the unnatural spread of meme coins, trading has become a stroke of luck because meme trading either makes huge profits or loses everything you have, there is no analysis in this type of trading, but rather it is a stroke of luck.
I agree with you, trading with meme coins really rely on analysis and is more inclined to luck. I am not or whether this is true, because this is what I feel many times to age with meme coins.
trading coins memes must be fast, if the coin is no longer hype we will lose the opportunity to get a profit
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: yhiaali3 on March 04, 2025, 05:51:40 PM
trading coins memes must be fast, if the coin is no longer hype we will lose the opportunity to get a profit
The life cycle of meme coins is very short so whoever buys at the beginning will win and whoever buys later, especially towards the end, will lose, this is the simple rule.

Of course there are some exceptions that can happen with some memes that gain popularity and their life cycle lasts longer than usual and there can be some ups and downs where speculators profit from them, but the main rule in memes is "hit and run".
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: Gposas on March 04, 2025, 06:29:52 PM
trading coins memes must be fast, if the coin is no longer hype we will lose the opportunity to get a profit
The life cycle of meme coins is very short so whoever buys at the beginning will win and whoever buys later, especially towards the end, will lose, this is the simple rule.

Of course there are some exceptions that can happen with some memes that gain popularity and their life cycle lasts longer than usual and there can be some ups and downs where speculators profit from them, but the main rule in memes is "hit and run".
Your right, memecoins don't profit a long time stay in the market, I've observed that... It is much profitable with the "Hit and Run" principle especially when trading with leverage.
Memecoins can also be frustrating most times during it's dump if a trader doesn't notice quickly from the change in market trend.

In all trading can be fun and can also be frustrating too... But it's always said Trade as much as you can afford to loss and besides that, having the knowledge is a principal thing which can never be neglected by a true trader.
Title: Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
Post by: Gurujebs on March 04, 2025, 06:46:45 PM
Good analogy, in exams we have to study in order to be able to work on the questions. And in trading we have to always study and practice in order to have knowledge and experience in trading so that we can maximize the profits we can get.
in trading requires analysis and sy=strategy, how to read charts and predict crypto market trends.

It's the same way you study for exam and reach the exam hall and not see what you study in the question is similar thing to when you study all the technical and fundamentals of trading only to end up making nothing because the market is unpredictable, you don't know when it will do well all the time even though you did everything correctly according to your understanding.

Look what happen on the 2 second of match when everyone thought the market is going down, the Trump made some calls and all short were liquidated..and again, since yesterday the market is liquidating long market since yesterday, sometimes you don't know just know where the market is going.