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Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
« Reply #90 on: February 04, 2025, 03:38:56 PM »
Trading with risk management is profitable to those who knows the importance of managing the capital in their portfolio, and knowing how it is before having such capital.
But too much confidence also can lose that much trading capital. That's why many traders lose because they thought that they are confident with their strength in trading and the skills that they have. But the reality gets them wrong that it's not for everybody. Even how good you are in trading, there will be the days that are going to be bloody and will incur losses. This is the sad reality in trading and that's why many still lose but I agree that with risk management and being content with how much profit made is going to make a trader farther with better results.

In plainness of speech and accepting reality, there is always losses. Losses and gains works together in businesses and even in investment, and that doesn't exclude it from happening in all forms of online trading. With the presences of losses, there will be respect for profits and that will give need for loss management being put into plan and consideration.

When there is too much confidence, important things are being let lose, which then brings closer to facing a huge loss, and which could cause crippling of one's trading account.
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Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
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Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
« Reply #91 on: February 05, 2025, 11:40:49 PM »
Trading with risk management is profitable to those who knows the importance of managing the capital in their portfolio, and knowing how it is before having such capital.
But too much confidence also can lose that much trading capital. That's why many traders lose because they thought that they are confident with their strength in trading and the skills that they have. But the reality gets them wrong that it's not for everybody. Even how good you are in trading, there will be the days that are going to be bloody and will incur losses. This is the sad reality in trading and that's why many still lose but I agree that with risk management and being content with how much profit made is going to make a trader farther with better results.

In plainness of speech and accepting reality, there is always losses. Losses and gains works together in businesses and even in investment, and that doesn't exclude it from happening in all forms of online trading. With the presences of losses, there will be respect for profits and that will give need for loss management being put into plan and consideration.

When there is too much confidence, important things are being let lose, which then brings closer to facing a huge loss, and which could cause crippling of one's trading account.
In trading or investment we will always face profits and losses, but with the knowledge and experience we have, we can minimize losses and gain profits. I also sometimes lose and will continue to rise to find profits to cover my losses with more focus and caution.

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Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
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Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
« Reply #92 on: February 06, 2025, 02:52:46 PM »
In trading or investment we will always face profits and losses, but with the knowledge and experience we have, we can minimize losses and gain profits. I also sometimes lose and will continue to rise to find profits to cover my losses with more focus and caution.

The profit will come from in-depth analysis. Without a doubt, profit is what drives all trading, but a trader should not focus solely on profit and ignore his analysis. Since analysis is what generates profits, a lack of thorough analysis may prevent a trader from making well-informed decisions. 

Instead of freaking out over losses, I believe a trader should learn from them. In trading, losses are inevitable. Even though a trader wants to make money, they must also be prepared to lose because things will not always go as planned. 

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Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
« Reply #93 on: February 06, 2025, 03:41:12 PM »
In trading or investment we will always face profits and losses, but with the knowledge and experience we have, we can minimize losses and gain profits. I also sometimes lose and will continue to rise to find profits to cover my losses with more focus and caution.

The profit will come from in-depth analysis. Without a doubt, profit is what drives all trading, but a trader should not focus solely on profit and ignore his analysis. Since analysis is what generates profits, a lack of thorough analysis may prevent a trader from making well-informed decisions. 

Instead of freaking out over losses, I believe a trader should learn from them. In trading, losses are inevitable. Even though a trader wants to make money, they must also be prepared to lose because things will not always go as planned.
losses can never be separated from trading, at least that's what we always remind ourselves. Because it is impossible to eliminate losses, even very professional people will never be free from losses.

As you said, every loss that is felt must be an experience and a lesson that we must take to make the next trade.

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Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
« Reply #94 on: February 06, 2025, 05:57:39 PM »
losses can never be separated from trading, at least that's what we always remind ourselves. Because it is impossible to eliminate losses, even very professional people will never be free from losses.

As you said, every loss that is felt must be an experience and a lesson that we must take to make the next trade.

I think the problem is not the losses, as all traders understand how trading works, but rather the possibility of still profiting after a series of losses. This is also what distinguishes a professional trader. As you mentioned, even professionals experience losses, but these losses do not deter the trader because every good trader knows that he will profit and would only hope that the profits from trading are sufficient to offset the losses. The joy of trading is to always be in profit.

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Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
« Reply #95 on: February 06, 2025, 06:36:47 PM »
Trading with risk management is profitable to those who knows the importance of managing the capital in their portfolio, and knowing how it is before having such capital.
But too much confidence also can lose that much trading capital. That's why many traders lose because they thought that they are confident with their strength in trading and the skills that they have. But the reality gets them wrong that it's not for everybody. Even how good you are in trading, there will be the days that are going to be bloody and will incur losses. This is the sad reality in trading and that's why many still lose but I agree that with risk management and being content with how much profit made is going to make a trader farther with better results.

In plainness of speech and accepting reality, there is always losses. Losses and gains works together in businesses and even in investment, and that doesn't exclude it from happening in all forms of online trading. With the presences of losses, there will be respect for profits and that will give need for loss management being put into plan and consideration.

When there is too much confidence, important things are being let lose, which then brings closer to facing a huge loss, and which could cause crippling of one's trading account.
I agree about having the presence of losses. This makes us even wiser when we are encountering some matters in the market and when it's crucial, We consider taking profits because we have experienced losing before and that should be avoided when we bounce back. That mistake is being learned by many right now and those that didn't take their profits on 2021. And for thi year of 2024 and 2025, for sure that many have taken theirs already even this cycle hasn't ended yet.

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Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
« Reply #96 on: February 06, 2025, 07:13:49 PM »
Trading with risk management is profitable to those who knows the importance of managing the capital in their portfolio, and knowing how it is before having such capital.
But too much confidence also can lose that much trading capital. That's why many traders lose because they thought that they are confident with their strength in trading and the skills that they have. But the reality gets them wrong that it's not for everybody. Even how good you are in trading, there will be the days that are going to be bloody and will incur losses. This is the sad reality in trading and that's why many still lose but I agree that with risk management and being content with how much profit made is going to make a trader farther with better results.

In plainness of speech and accepting reality, there is always losses. Losses and gains works together in businesses and even in investment, and that doesn't exclude it from happening in all forms of online trading. With the presences of losses, there will be respect for profits and that will give need for loss management being put into plan and consideration.

When there is too much confidence, important things are being let lose, which then brings closer to facing a huge loss, and which could cause crippling of one's trading account.
I agree about having the presence of losses. This makes us even wiser when we are encountering some matters in the market and when it's crucial, We consider taking profits because we have experienced losing before and that should be avoided when we bounce back. That mistake is being learned by many right now and those that didn't take their profits on 2021. And for thi year of 2024 and 2025, for sure that many have taken theirs already even this cycle hasn't ended yet.
A trader does not stop trading until he has capital.  I have a friend who does short trading and that is futures trading.  And from there he profits 2-10$ per trade.  But he is not satisfied with that profit.  From trading again and again he lost his profit and his own funds completely.  Those who trade short gradually lose control of themselves and become greedy.  So in the last stage loss amount is seen more than profit in them.
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Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
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Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
« Reply #97 on: February 07, 2025, 12:12:00 PM »
Trading with risk management is profitable to those who knows the importance of managing the capital in their portfolio, and knowing how it is before having such capital.
But too much confidence also can lose that much trading capital. That's why many traders lose because they thought that they are confident with their strength in trading and the skills that they have. But the reality gets them wrong that it's not for everybody. Even how good you are in trading, there will be the days that are going to be bloody and will incur losses. This is the sad reality in trading and that's why many still lose but I agree that with risk management and being content with how much profit made is going to make a trader farther with better results.

In plainness of speech and accepting reality, there is always losses. Losses and gains works together in businesses and even in investment, and that doesn't exclude it from happening in all forms of online trading. With the presences of losses, there will be respect for profits and that will give need for loss management being put into plan and consideration.

When there is too much confidence, important things are being let lose, which then brings closer to facing a huge loss, and which could cause crippling of one's trading account.
In trading or investment we will always face profits and losses, but with the knowledge and experience we have, we can minimize losses and gain profits. I also sometimes lose and will continue to rise to find profits to cover my losses with more focus and caution.
Profits and loses on which these are the only things on which you will really be able to experience when you are doing trading. Skills will be that differ into each other because not all traders will be having on the same skill level and capacity on how to deal up with this volatile market on which we know that its never been that easy. If you are someone who doesnt really like to deal up with loses then trading isnt for you because once you do step your foot into this volatile market then it is really that normal that you will be facing up these situation and this will really be that survival of the fittest if we do speak about money making but its part that loses will really be on the way. Thing here is on how you do sustain yourself on this market.

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Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
« Reply #98 on: February 07, 2025, 12:23:12 PM »
losses can never be separated from trading, at least that's what we always remind ourselves. Because it is impossible to eliminate losses, even very professional people will never be free from losses.

As you said, every loss that is felt must be an experience and a lesson that we must take to make the next trade.

I think the problem is not the losses, as all traders understand how trading works, but rather the possibility of still profiting after a series of losses. This is also what distinguishes a professional trader. As you mentioned, even professionals experience losses, but these losses do not deter the trader because every good trader knows that he will profit and would only hope that the profits from trading are sufficient to offset the losses. The joy of trading is to always be in profit.

Traders that are new to the sphere are probably having more losses than profits, if not most of them.
If they would work out and properly manage risks, they would drop said losses down, increasing their profits and driving themselves to new heights. Even if they make 60/40 ratio of good positions over bad ones, they would still be in a good shape to move forward.

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Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
« Reply #99 on: February 07, 2025, 02:08:53 PM »
I have noticed this behaviour amongst beginner traders, in any bull market period you can make plenty money without being knowledgeable about trading, the hard part is once this period ends and you continue trading, you'll start losing.

..and I am not sure under which category this behaviour falls in. Is it impatience, greed or fomo?

It is the inability to accept reality.

I trade kind of but I have a five part plan of trade.

pretend I have 100,000 usd to work with along with 30,000 in mining gear. grand total of 130,000

33,000 in cash on the side lines
33,000 in btc on the side lines

34,000 is the working amount. that is at risk

along with 30,000 in mining gear.


take 10,000 of the 34,000 working mount as cash

set up a buy ladder down

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all the way to
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keep 14,000 in btc as your mining hodl and when coins are 90 to 110k stack stack stack stack stack and hodl that pile.


set up a sell ladder up.

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all the way to
161k in 200$ steps.

what are your risks

 well the exchange could be robbed I use coins the the cash on coinbase is insured but you could lose the coins around 17k in coins maybe 14k


the miner host could burn down and you could lose 30k in gear.


so of the 130,000 in value dedicated to crypto on any day you could lose maybe 45k.

other risk a super crash could devalue your coins maybe 50k


but the example above that entire 130k is all profit and it in the event of a super worst case drops to 33k in sidelines cash plus a cash claim on coinbase of maybe 17k

so the works case it the 130k becomes 50k. it is still all profit.

Sideways in the 90-110 slot works best as you grow your stack.


and the pair of aces in the hole are selling stuff on ebay along with posting here and bitcointalk to earn more.

My biggest danger is to go off track and over expand the mining which exposes me to my host going bad.

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Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
« Reply #100 on: February 07, 2025, 04:15:27 PM »
losses can never be separated from trading, at least that's what we always remind ourselves. Because it is impossible to eliminate losses, even very professional people will never be free from losses.

As you said, every loss that is felt must be an experience and a lesson that we must take to make the next trade.

I think the problem is not the losses, as all traders understand how trading works, but rather the possibility of still profiting after a series of losses. This is also what distinguishes a professional trader. As you mentioned, even professionals experience losses, but these losses do not deter the trader because every good trader knows that he will profit and would only hope that the profits from trading are sufficient to offset the losses. The joy of trading is to always be in profit.
In other words, you can recover from the losses you experience and in the next trade you must make a profit. You are right, this is what really differentiates a professional trader from a non-professional, especially if it is a beginner.

Mentality and experience will speak here, because those who are professional will know what to do when they feel a loss and that is certainly the main thing.

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Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
« Reply #101 on: February 07, 2025, 09:50:55 PM »
losses can never be separated from trading, at least that's what we always remind ourselves. Because it is impossible to eliminate losses, even very professional people will never be free from losses.

As you said, every loss that is felt must be an experience and a lesson that we must take to make the next trade.

I think the problem is not the losses, as all traders understand how trading works, but rather the possibility of still profiting after a series of losses. This is also what distinguishes a professional trader. As you mentioned, even professionals experience losses, but these losses do not deter the trader because every good trader knows that he will profit and would only hope that the profits from trading are sufficient to offset the losses. The joy of trading is to always be in profit.
In other words, you can recover from the losses you experience and in the next trade you must make a profit. You are right, this is what really differentiates a professional trader from a non-professional, especially if it is a beginner.

Mentality and experience will speak here, because those who are professional will know what to do when they feel a loss and that is certainly the main thing.
A newbie will panic when experiencing a loss, but an experienced person will feel calm and more focused on making a profit, with the aim of covering the losses that have been suffered.
This is not easy because it takes experience and skills in making analysis and formulating the right strategy.
in trading it takes a long time to have experience and expertise.

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Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
« Reply #102 on: February 07, 2025, 09:53:11 PM »

Profits and loses on which these are the only things on which you will really be able to experience when you are doing trading. Skills will be that differ into each other because not all traders will be having on the same skill level and capacity on how to deal up with this volatile market on which we know that its never been that easy. If you are someone who doesnt really like to deal up with loses then trading isnt for you because once you do step your foot into this volatile market then it is really that normal that you will be facing up these situation and this will really be that survival of the fittest if we do speak about money making but its part that loses will really be on the way. Thing here is on how you do sustain yourself on this market.
If you don't want to experience losses, buy bitcoin during the bearish season and hold it until the bullish season, we will benefit from it.
while in trading we will always be faced with a very volatile crypto market, so losses will always be there because our analysis and strategy may be wrong and we will experience losses.

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Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
« Reply #103 on: February 08, 2025, 04:34:45 AM »
Mentality and experience will speak here, because those who are professional will know what to do when they feel a loss and that is certainly the main thing.
One of the things that you have to be careful about is that, knowing how to handle losses when trading, some people can't stand it and never trade again, and that's something that shouldn't be the case, both trading and other activities like gambling need to be able to handle losses very well, it's difficult but it's possible, so the important thing about trading is trying to keep a more positive balance than a negative one. Being profitable in trading is difficult, but not impossible.
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Re: Why people loose more than gaining in trading.
« Reply #104 on: February 08, 2025, 06:01:00 AM »
Question itself the answer many history data clear the answer that the trader at last get loses due to overtrade or over quantity position in future.

For minimize loss we have to follow strategy and strictly apply stop loss while trading. Also need to trade with minimum fund which can not affect your mental health.

 

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