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I was having an arguement yesterday with some with AI,he said his friend uses AI to predicts football and it works for him,that his friend won 1.2million,i really disagree with him because if such occurs is luck.
Please let's discuss if truely AI helps in football predictions.
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i do think it is possible that ai can predict how a football match is likely to go because they can be credible when it comes to data and analyzing these said data what they can't foresee though is how an athlete plays and performs and how he may perform when affected by external factors so i would not say that they should all credit it to ai as there is definitely some luck involved and this friend might want to not depend completely on ai otherwise he might regret it
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i do think it is possible that ai can predict how a football match is likely to go because they can be credible when it comes to data and analyzing these said data what they can't foresee though is how an athlete plays and performs and how he may perform when affected by external factors so i would not say that they should all credit it to ai as there is definitely some luck involved and this friend might want to not depend completely on ai otherwise he might regret it
Well said! That is a fallacy. AI cannot provide accurate predictions because many factors influence the outcome of a game, which AI cannot predict. We have yet to see an AI that can predict the future, and whether we believe it or not, making predictions is simply telling the future. I can confidently tell the OP that the story being told is not true.
Probably, the gambler used an AI to collect some data, which, combined with luck, resulted in him winning, and he believes that AI provides accurate predictions. If that were true, such a gambler would win every day and by now be a multimillionaire, but I doubt that is the case.
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For me, AI will not help you predict in any games because AI will based its prediction on history and not on the future so i think your friend is just so lucky that he won that large amount. If AI could help in any sports prediction then all of these bookies will shut down as games will now be predictable.
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If AI could help in any sports prediction then all of these bookies will shut down as games will now be predictable.
Certainly, because they will no longer profit. The betting sites are out there for profit making and so the moment they no longer profit they will either close down or pay heavily to ensure that AI predictions are disable. This is to make sure that they continue to have an edge over gamblers.
Similarly things happen with betting options, there are some options bookies disable the moment they notice that gamblers are having so much winnings from it or maybe increase the high line so it becomes difficult and risky to bet on that option. This is so common in basketball betting.
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I was having an arguement yesterday with some with AI,he said his friend uses AI to predicts football and it works for him,that his friend won 1.2million,i really disagree with him because if such occurs is luck.
Please let's discuss if truely AI helps in football predictions.
What software did he use? If it's just a free website or an unsophisticated product, it's like a coinflip algorithm IMO. You can use FM games instead and get more sophisticated calculations. However, if he uses big data and legit software, I believe the prediction will be better regarding percentage, like 55% home wins, 40% draw, etc. Keep in mind the result would still be in percentage, meaning it's not certain.
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Please let's discuss if truely AI helps in football predictions.
Artificial intelligence can help and assist you in making predictions, but the predictions made are still not guaranteed to be 100 percent correct because AI or artificial intelligence cannot predict the future.
Any attempts by artificial intelligence to predict the future are done based on past data, and we all know that past data most times is not always correct in predicting future outcomes.
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However, if he uses big data and legit software, I believe the prediction will be better regarding percentage, like 55% home wins, 40% draw, etc. Keep in mind the result would still be in percentage, meaning it's not certain.
Then there is no difference between it and the results from other prediction websites. Most of these websites base their predictions on percentages because, as you mentioned, there is no guarantee. We understand how sophisticated AI can be when it comes to information gathering and prediction.
We also expect such sophistication and a very near-perfect prediction, and if that is not what we get, AI has not assisted in any way because information can be obtained from teams' official websites or from football analysts, and if AI can only provide data and analysis, its prediction is not 100% accurate as you mentioned.
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Why not go to https://chatgpt.com/ and test it? Its free to ask. There are plenty of football games ahead. Just ask AI and compare results. Build statistics and get a true answer. That will be easy, isnt it? However AI wont give a direct answer. AI will give overall information only and different variations of "The result will depend on various factors like team form, injuries, tactical approaches, and player performances on the day of the game.".
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Then there is no difference between it and the results from other prediction websites. Most of these websites base their predictions on percentages because, as you mentioned, there is no guarantee. We understand how sophisticated AI can be when it comes to information gathering and prediction.
The difference would be the accuracy, meaning the probability should reflect on the real world, unlike unknown/random results on questionable websites. I tested some sites some time ago and found that it was completely BS as, for example, Man City is mostly the favorite (the algorithm doesn't take into account Rodri's injury and the recent dynamics).
We also expect such sophistication and a very near-perfect prediction, and if that is not what we get, AI has not assisted in any way because information can be obtained from teams' official websites or from football analysts, and if AI can only provide data and analysis, its prediction is not 100% accurate as you mentioned.
Yeah, real-time big data is essential, without good data, it's all meaningless whatever algorithm you use. But to say that it has to be near-perfect, well, I beg to differ. IMO if AI increases the quality of a prediction, it's still beneficial and can complement tipsters' information.
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It could be that your friend uses AI to analyse data for matches and makes his predictions accordingly, a proper analyzing could amplify his winnings bets, of course nothing guaranteed. On it's own AI making prediction and winning a match it's just luck striking.
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Please let's discuss if truely AI helps in football predictions.
I'm not sure if this is possible, except we decide to look at it from different angles. From what I have observed about most of the AI tools around, not all of them are always up-to-date,i.e not all of them have the current/present information. And we all know that (in most cases), football predictions is determined by recent events such as team performance and form, injury worries and other things. But I wonder how some of the AI that uses (maybe 2023 and below) old data to make accurate predictions, which IMO doesn't make sense.
If someone is to use any random AI now to predict a Manchester city game, the AI might likely give the win to Manchester City based on their old dominant performance, which in reality, is not like that. So, I think AI with outdated data won't even come close.
And, assuming the AI has the current information to this very minute, it's not still a guarantee that most of the predictions will be correct. Teams these days don't even play well, so AI prediction is never a guarantee for a win.
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AI can help football prediction if there is one that is dedicated to it. A dedicated AI can analyze team stats, player form, injuries, past match results, weather conditions, and even team strategies but the AI must need to be fed with all the data about football to create a prediction. however, AI prediction will not be always 100% accurate because there are instances where unexpected events can happen during a match. Things like sudden player injuries, red cards, bad referee decisions, or even unexpected weather changes can completely change the outcome of a game.
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I remember that AI agents are built for that, and there's no assurance that you can win, but entertaining yourself with that approach would be fun, IMO. I don't want to spend my money on gambling like that, but it would be nice once in a while. It's a good thing to really go with the flow if you really want to. It's just that you cannot blame the AI if it got it wrong; you should still be accountable for it.
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i do think it is possible that ai can predict how a football match is likely to go because they can be credible when it comes to data and analyzing these said data what they can't foresee though is how an athlete plays and performs and how he may perform when affected by external factors so i would not say that they should all credit it to ai as there is definitely some luck involved and this friend might want to not depend completely on ai otherwise he might regret it
yes agree with you,ai can serve in any other issues but not in football predictions.
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i do think it is possible that ai can predict how a football match is likely to go because they can be credible when it comes to data and analyzing these said data what they can't foresee though is how an athlete plays and performs and how he may perform when affected by external factors so i would not say that they should all credit it to ai as there is definitely some luck involved and this friend might want to not depend completely on ai otherwise he might regret it
Well said! That is a fallacy. AI cannot provide accurate predictions because many factors influence the outcome of a game, which AI cannot predict. We have yet to see an AI that can predict the future, and whether we believe it or not, making predictions is simply telling the future. I can confidently tell the OP that the story being told is not true.
Probably, the gambler used an AI to collect some data, which, combined with luck, resulted in him winning, and he believes that AI provides accurate predictions. If that were true, such a gambler would win every day and by now be a multimillionaire, but I doubt that is the case.
agree,the ai might predict some feautures just as other prediction sites,as you said because predicting unplayed match is equally predicting the feauture as well.
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For me, AI will not help you predict in any games because AI will based its prediction on history and not on the future so i think your friend is just so lucky that he won that large amount. If AI could help in any sports prediction then all of these bookies will shut down as games will now be predictable.
he is just a lucky man that very day,because if an ai can give us an accurate predictions all most everybody involving in gamble will become a billonaire by now,so we strongly disagree.
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AI collects data from the internet and then analyze which team has the highest chances of winning base on their current data which are the team players, points they regularly make and so fort. with these information, although they my not predict how exactly the game will play out, they my still be able to foresee which team COULD win.
all caps because AIs can not guarantee the future result. however what AIs can tell us can serve as a guide to becoming a good bettor in sports.
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I was having an arguement yesterday with some with AI,he said his friend uses AI to predicts football and it works for him,that his friend won 1.2million,i really disagree with him because if such occurs is luck.
Please let's discuss if truely AI helps in football predictions.
If such AI actually exist then the developers should monetize the use of the AI so they can be making money from any one that wants to make use of the application as it will be a money making machine for anyone that is using
This argument is really funny if someone actually made a win using AI related predictions then it's was just the luck factor and should not be generalized that Al predictions actually brings winning this is delusional because such things doesn't work, There's no AI that can actually give an accurate results of what is going to happen the highest they can do is to give you a probability of what is likely to happen based on previous performance of which results can change any time due to the current forms of the team's
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You can still do things without AI but it can help you save time from gathering data for sure. For predicting the outcome? I think AI's guesses is as good as anyone. I would be interested to know the result of those who tried it already. Show us the W/L record for each game predicted by AI. It's possible that only one game was won but has the biggest bet or has the highest odds.
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If AI could help in any sports prediction then all of these bookies will shut down as games will now be predictable.
Certainly, because they will no longer profit. The betting sites are out there for profit making and so the moment they no longer profit they will either close down or pay heavily to ensure that AI predictions are disable. This is to make sure that they continue to have an edge over gamblers.
Similarly things happen with betting options, there are some options bookies disable the moment they notice that gamblers are having so much winnings from it or maybe increase the high line so it becomes difficult and risky to bet on that option. This is so common in basketball betting.
i totally agree with you,if such happens they will no longer profit,and also they will think of bribing them,the true facts is that no body can predicts the future,because if ai can do such the future is been predicted.
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It could be that your friend uses AI to analyse data for matches and makes his predictions accordingly, a proper analyzing could amplify his winnings bets, of course nothing guaranteed. On it's own AI making prediction and winning a match it's just luck striking.
yes i think so,he is using ai to predicts and same time analyzing correctly,even some bet prediction site is same thing as ai in terms of predictions,those predictions is all about gestures and luck.
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If AI could help in any sports prediction then all of these bookies will shut down as games will now be predictable.
Certainly, because they will no longer profit. The betting sites are out there for profit making and so the moment they no longer profit they will either close down or pay heavily to ensure that AI predictions are disable. This is to make sure that they continue to have an edge over gamblers.
Similarly things happen with betting options, there are some options bookies disable the moment they notice that gamblers are having so much winnings from it or maybe increase the high line so it becomes difficult and risky to bet on that option. This is so common in basketball betting.
i totally agree with you,if such happens they will no longer profit,and also they will think of bribing them,the true facts is that no body can predicts the future,because if ai can do such the future is been predicted.
Not just in football, I think AI is taking over the sports as far as prediction goes. I remember one thread in the other community about betting on UFC and having AI as his source of his prediction.
For now it's looks like still 50/50 for me, nevertheless it could be the trend in the next couple of years. But being a old head in sports betting, I wouldn't rely to much on them.
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You can still do things without AI but it can help you save time from gathering data for sure. For predicting the outcome? I think AI's guesses is as good as anyone. I would be interested to know the result of those who tried it already. Show us the W/L record for each game predicted by AI. It's possible that only one game was won but has the biggest bet or has the highest odds.
I agree with you on the issue of time. I think that's the only benefit of using AI to make prediction but when it has to do with accuracy and winning rate, not much can AI do. AI cannot foresee if a team will be awarded a penalty. AI cannot foresee if a player will be given a red card. AI cannot tell if the referee will be bias in the game. AI cannot tell if a key player will have an injury.
These factors mentioned are those factors which have made football prediction so difficult and the fact that gamblers does not have the ability to determine these factors before making a prediction makes football unpredictable and AI cannot also determine the occurrence of these factors in a football match and so cannot also make accurate predictions.
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I was having an arguement yesterday with some with AI,he said his friend uses AI to predicts football and it works for him,that his friend won 1.2million,i really disagree with him because if such occurs is luck.
Please let's discuss if truely AI helps in football predictions.
Well we have have seen amazing and mind blowing technological advancements, there's nothing impossible with technology. But one thing is certain, even if the games are predicted using AI the loss will still be far greater than the wins
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AI collects data from the internet and then analyze which team has the highest chances of winning base on their current data which are the team players, points they regularly make and so fort. with these information, although they my not predict how exactly the game will play out, they my still be able to foresee which team COULD win.
all caps because AIs can not guarantee the future result. however what AIs can tell us can serve as a guide to becoming a good bettor in sports.
You dont need AI for that. Bookkepers and odd already did that. Look at odds and they show who has more chances to win. Like odds, AI wont give a correct prediction, nor predict a correct score. AI will be still guessing the outcome and add that he is not responsible for it, making him not much of a true helper. If AI would really be so helpful, he would predict results and make casinos bankrupt. So far we see opposite picture, number of casinos only grow.
Weather forecasters have huge data bases, we have super technological computers, AI, satellites that see clouds, wind and movement, and still cant predict with 100% if it is going to rain exactly in 24h or not. But people want to predict sports outcomes...
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i do think it is possible that ai can predict how a football match is likely to go because they can be credible when it comes to data and analyzing these said data what they can't foresee though is how an athlete plays and performs and how he may perform when affected by external factors so i would not say that they should all credit it to ai as there is definitely some luck involved and this friend might want to not depend completely on ai otherwise he might regret it
Well said! That is a fallacy. AI cannot provide accurate predictions because many factors influence the outcome of a game, which AI cannot predict. We have yet to see an AI that can predict the future, and whether we believe it or not, making predictions is simply telling the future. I can confidently tell the OP that the story being told is not true.
Probably, the gambler used an AI to collect some data, which, combined with luck, resulted in him winning, and he believes that AI provides accurate predictions. If that were true, such a gambler would win every day and by now be a multimillionaire, but I doubt that is the case.
Your actually right because AI can't predict the outcome of game no matter how good that AI is in data analysis because football is not virtual gambling which is programmed to run in a particular way so if the AI can get that pattern it can be able to predict the outcome of the event but when it comes to real football events the elements of surprise is there so it will be very difficult for an AI to accurately predict the outcome of the game
If actually it worked for someone just say that the person was fortunate and lucky to win but should not be seen or ascribe to AI prediction
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I was having an arguement yesterday with some with AI,he said his friend uses AI to predicts football and it works for him,that his friend won 1.2million,i really disagree with him because if such occurs is luck.
Please let's discuss if truely AI helps in football predictions.
For me yeah I agree with you that it is 100% luck since AI cannot predict future events and stuff. I don't deally believe people telling me they win from gambling just because of using AI it was just a coincidence and not like a hundred percent because of it.
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AI collects data from the internet and then analyze which team has the highest chances of winning base on their current data which are the team players, points they regularly make and so fort. with these information, although they my not predict how exactly the game will play out, they my still be able to foresee which team COULD win.
all caps because AIs can not guarantee the future result. however what AIs can tell us can serve as a guide to becoming a good bettor in sports.
You dont need AI for that. Bookkepers and odd already did that. Look at odds and they show who has more chances to win. Like odds, AI wont give a correct prediction, nor predict a correct score. AI will be still guessing the outcome and add that he is not responsible for it, making him not much of a true helper. If AI would really be so helpful, he would predict results and make casinos bankrupt. So far we see opposite picture, number of casinos only grow.
Weather forecasters have huge data bases, we have super technological computers, AI, satellites that see clouds, wind and movement, and still cant predict with 100% if it is going to rain exactly in 24h or not. But people want to predict sports outcomes...
AI can sort it out faster than doing it by yourself though. of course it will not predict exactly what the outcome. there is no such thing but it will give its user an idea how things could play out. there is already an AI or MMA and boxing which somehow is useful. but then they know there is politics and mafia in these sort of sports. we can't rely to AIs especially to the hyped bouts.
football i think is different due to several athletes re involve. AI can gather which one has injury and which one is not around. so using the AI in real time will be convenient.
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I was having an arguement yesterday with some with AI,he said his friend uses AI to predicts football and it works for him,that his friend won 1.2million,i really disagree with him because if such occurs is luck.
Please let's discuss if truely AI helps in football predictions.
Even someone won by the AI prediction that is nothing but a coincident.
We must keep believing on this gambling result depend on luck otherwise if this is much easier like this There will be no gambling site or a gambling think in the world.
And I also think that artificial intelligent would be only a tool for analysing the team past record nothing but so artificial intelligent isn't not really help any result it just help you only data analysis.
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I remember that AI agents are built for that, and there's no assurance that you can win, but entertaining yourself with that approach would be fun, IMO. I don't want to spend my money on gambling like that, but it would be nice once in a while. It's a good thing to really go with the flow if you really want to. It's just that you cannot blame the AI if it got it wrong; you should still be accountable for it.
yeah there is no guarantee about there predictions,base on my experience you don't have to pick every games predicted there,atleast just a random selection still it might stand as a chance of 50/50.
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Please let's discuss if truely AI helps in football predictions.
I'm not sure if this is possible, except we decide to look at it from different angles. From what I have observed about most of the AI tools around, not all of them are always up-to-date,i.e not all of them have the current/present information. And we all know that (in most cases), football predictions is determined by recent events such as team performance and form, injury worries and other things. But I wonder how some of the AI that uses (maybe 2023 and below) old data to make accurate predictions, which IMO doesn't make sense.
If someone is to use any random AI now to predict a Manchester city game, the AI might likely give the win to Manchester City based on their old dominant performance, which in reality, is not like that. So, I think AI with outdated data won't even come close.
And, assuming the AI has the current information to this very minute, it's not still a guarantee that most of the predictions will be correct. Teams these days don't even play well, so AI prediction is never a guarantee for a win.
yes i agree with you,there predictions are not up to date,there predictions is based on the statistics of the team and also there last performance of there previous match,the predictions is made by gestures.
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AI can help football prediction if there is one that is dedicated to it. A dedicated AI can analyze team stats, player form, injuries, past match results, weather conditions, and even team strategies but the AI must need to be fed with all the data about football to create a prediction. however, AI prediction will not be always 100% accurate because there are instances where unexpected events can happen during a match. Things like sudden player injuries, red cards, bad referee decisions, or even unexpected weather changes can completely change the outcome of a game.
I agree with you,there predicrions will still serve but not 100% sure,in some cases i have gone through other predictions site atleast they are trying but still is not 100% guarantee,if your lucky the selection made might give you a wining ticket.
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AI can help in football predictions, but it is not certain or guaranteed that one will win it. AI can predict what is likely to happen in the future, which may even go in the opposite direction. AI sometimes does not take into consideration what has happened in the past to make its predictions, so how can it be trusted. Since it does not determine how teams and players play in a match, how can it predict accurately the scores in a match. It just happened that your friend won the game for that day.