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Re: Does AI helps in football prediction
« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2025, 09:28:51 PM »
i do think it is possible that ai can predict how a football match is likely to go because they can be credible when it comes to data and analyzing these said data what they can't foresee though is how an athlete plays and performs and how he may perform when affected by external factors so i would not say that they should all credit it to ai as there is definitely some luck involved and this friend might want to not depend completely on ai otherwise he might regret it

Well said! That is a fallacy. AI cannot provide accurate predictions because many factors influence the outcome of a game, which AI cannot predict. We have yet to see an AI that can predict the future, and whether we believe it or not, making predictions is simply telling the future. I can confidently tell the OP that the story being told is not true.

Probably, the gambler used an AI to collect some data, which, combined with luck, resulted in him winning, and he believes that AI provides accurate predictions. If that were true, such a gambler would win every day and by now be a multimillionaire, but I doubt that is the case.
agree,the ai might predict some feautures just as other prediction sites,as you said because predicting unplayed match is equally predicting the feauture as well.
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Re: Does AI helps in football prediction
« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2025, 09:32:48 PM »
For me, AI will not help you predict in any games because AI will based its prediction on history and not on the future so i think your friend is just so lucky that he won that large amount. If AI could help in any sports prediction then all of these bookies will shut down as games will now be predictable.
he is just a lucky man that very day,because if an ai can give us an accurate predictions all most everybody involving in gamble will become a billonaire by now,so we strongly disagree.
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Re: Does AI helps in football prediction
« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2025, 09:34:23 PM »
AI collects data from the internet and then analyze which team has the highest chances of winning base on their current data which are the team players, points they regularly make and so fort.  with these information, although they my not predict how exactly the game will play out, they my still be able to foresee which team COULD win.

all caps because AIs can not guarantee the future result. however what AIs can tell us can serve as a guide to becoming a good bettor in sports.

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Re: Does AI helps in football prediction
« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2025, 09:53:22 PM »
I was having an arguement yesterday with some with AI,he said his friend uses AI to predicts football and it works for him,that his friend won 1.2million,i really disagree with him because if such occurs is luck.
Please let's discuss if truely AI helps in football predictions.
If such AI actually exist then the developers should monetize the use of the AI so they can be making money from any one that wants to make use of the application as it will be a money making machine for anyone that is using

This argument is really funny if someone actually made a win using AI related predictions then it's was just the luck factor and should not be generalized that Al predictions actually brings winning this is delusional because such things doesn't work, There's no AI that can actually give an accurate results of what is going to happen the highest they can do is to give you a probability of what is likely to happen based on previous performance of which results can change any time due to the current forms of the team's

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Re: Does AI helps in football prediction
« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2025, 09:55:42 PM »
You can still do things without AI but it can help you save time from gathering data for sure. For predicting the outcome? I think AI's guesses is as good as anyone. I would be interested to know the result of those who tried it already. Show us the W/L record for each game predicted by AI. It's possible that only one game was won but has the biggest bet or has the highest odds.

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Re: Does AI helps in football prediction
« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2025, 10:46:50 PM »
If AI could help in any sports prediction then all of these bookies will shut down as games will now be predictable.

Certainly, because they will no longer profit. The betting sites are out there for profit making and so the moment they no longer profit they will either close down or pay heavily to ensure that AI predictions are disable. This is to make sure that they continue to have an edge over gamblers.

Similarly things happen with betting options, there are some options bookies disable the moment they notice that gamblers are having so much winnings from it or maybe increase the high line so it becomes difficult and risky to bet on that option. This is so common in basketball betting.
i totally agree with you,if such happens they will no longer profit,and also they will think of bribing them,the true facts is that no body can predicts the future,because if ai can do such the future is been predicted.
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Re: Does AI helps in football prediction
« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2025, 10:51:04 PM »
It could be that your friend uses AI to analyse data for matches and makes his predictions accordingly, a proper analyzing could amplify his winnings bets, of course nothing guaranteed. On it's own AI making prediction and winning a match it's just luck striking.
yes i think so,he is using ai to predicts and same time analyzing correctly,even some bet prediction site is same thing as ai in terms of predictions,those predictions is all about gestures and luck.
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Re: Does AI helps in football prediction
« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2025, 12:04:27 AM »
If AI could help in any sports prediction then all of these bookies will shut down as games will now be predictable.

Certainly, because they will no longer profit. The betting sites are out there for profit making and so the moment they no longer profit they will either close down or pay heavily to ensure that AI predictions are disable. This is to make sure that they continue to have an edge over gamblers.

Similarly things happen with betting options, there are some options bookies disable the moment they notice that gamblers are having so much winnings from it or maybe increase the high line so it becomes difficult and risky to bet on that option. This is so common in basketball betting.
i totally agree with you,if such happens they will no longer profit,and also they will think of bribing them,the true facts is that no body can predicts the future,because if ai can do such the future is been predicted.

Not just in football, I think AI is taking over the sports as far as prediction goes. I remember one thread in the other community about betting on UFC and having AI as his source of his prediction.

For now it's looks like still 50/50 for me, nevertheless it could be the trend in the next couple of years. But being a old head in sports betting, I wouldn't rely to much on them.

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Re: Does AI helps in football prediction
« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2025, 12:25:47 AM »
You can still do things without AI but it can help you save time from gathering data for sure. For predicting the outcome? I think AI's guesses is as good as anyone. I would be interested to know the result of those who tried it already. Show us the W/L record for each game predicted by AI. It's possible that only one game was won but has the biggest bet or has the highest odds.

I agree with you on the issue of time. I think that's the only benefit of using AI to make prediction but when it has to do with accuracy and winning rate, not much can AI do. AI cannot foresee if a team will be awarded a penalty. AI cannot foresee if a player will be given a red card. AI cannot tell if the referee will be bias in the game. AI cannot tell if a key player will have an injury.

These factors mentioned are those factors which have made football prediction so difficult and the fact that gamblers does not have the ability to determine these factors before making a prediction makes football unpredictable and AI cannot also determine the occurrence of these factors in a football match and so cannot also make accurate predictions. 

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Re: Does AI helps in football prediction
« Reply #24 on: January 15, 2025, 01:34:05 AM »
I was having an arguement yesterday with some with AI,he said his friend uses AI to predicts football and it works for him,that his friend won 1.2million,i really disagree with him because if such occurs is luck.
Please let's discuss if truely AI helps in football predictions.

Well we have have seen amazing and mind blowing technological advancements, there's nothing impossible with technology. But one thing is certain, even if the games are predicted using AI the loss will still be far greater than the wins

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Re: Does AI helps in football prediction
« Reply #25 on: January 15, 2025, 12:04:22 PM »
AI collects data from the internet and then analyze which team has the highest chances of winning base on their current data which are the team players, points they regularly make and so fort.  with these information, although they my not predict how exactly the game will play out, they my still be able to foresee which team COULD win.

all caps because AIs can not guarantee the future result. however what AIs can tell us can serve as a guide to becoming a good bettor in sports.

You dont need AI for that. Bookkepers and odd already did that. Look at odds and they show who has more chances to win. Like odds, AI wont give a correct prediction, nor predict a correct score. AI will be still guessing the outcome and add that he is not responsible for it, making him not much of a true helper. If AI would really be so helpful, he would predict results and make casinos bankrupt. So far we see opposite picture, number of casinos only grow.

Weather forecasters have huge data bases, we have super technological computers, AI, satellites that see clouds, wind and movement, and still cant predict with 100% if it is going to rain exactly in 24h or not. But people want to predict sports outcomes...
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Re: Does AI helps in football prediction
« Reply #26 on: January 15, 2025, 02:11:29 PM »
i do think it is possible that ai can predict how a football match is likely to go because they can be credible when it comes to data and analyzing these said data what they can't foresee though is how an athlete plays and performs and how he may perform when affected by external factors so i would not say that they should all credit it to ai as there is definitely some luck involved and this friend might want to not depend completely on ai otherwise he might regret it

Well said! That is a fallacy. AI cannot provide accurate predictions because many factors influence the outcome of a game, which AI cannot predict. We have yet to see an AI that can predict the future, and whether we believe it or not, making predictions is simply telling the future. I can confidently tell the OP that the story being told is not true.

Probably, the gambler used an AI to collect some data, which, combined with luck, resulted in him winning, and he believes that AI provides accurate predictions. If that were true, such a gambler would win every day and by now be a multimillionaire, but I doubt that is the case.
Your actually right because AI can't predict the outcome of game no matter how good that AI is in data analysis because football is not virtual gambling which is programmed to run in a particular way so if the AI can get that pattern it can be able to predict the outcome of the event but when it comes to real football events the elements of surprise is there so it will be very difficult for an AI to accurately predict the outcome of the game

If actually it worked for someone just say that the person was fortunate and lucky to win but should not be seen or ascribe to AI prediction

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Re: Does AI helps in football prediction
« Reply #27 on: January 15, 2025, 06:51:39 PM »
I was having an arguement yesterday with some with AI,he said his friend uses AI to predicts football and it works for him,that his friend won 1.2million,i really disagree with him because if such occurs is luck.
Please let's discuss if truely AI helps in football predictions.
For me yeah I agree with you that it is 100% luck since AI cannot predict future events and stuff. I don't deally believe people telling me they win from gambling just because of using AI it was just a coincidence and not like a hundred percent because of it.

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Re: Does AI helps in football prediction
« Reply #28 on: January 15, 2025, 08:22:27 PM »
AI collects data from the internet and then analyze which team has the highest chances of winning base on their current data which are the team players, points they regularly make and so fort.  with these information, although they my not predict how exactly the game will play out, they my still be able to foresee which team COULD win.

all caps because AIs can not guarantee the future result. however what AIs can tell us can serve as a guide to becoming a good bettor in sports.

You dont need AI for that. Bookkepers and odd already did that. Look at odds and they show who has more chances to win. Like odds, AI wont give a correct prediction, nor predict a correct score. AI will be still guessing the outcome and add that he is not responsible for it, making him not much of a true helper. If AI would really be so helpful, he would predict results and make casinos bankrupt. So far we see opposite picture, number of casinos only grow.

Weather forecasters have huge data bases, we have super technological computers, AI, satellites that see clouds, wind and movement, and still cant predict with 100% if it is going to rain exactly in 24h or not. But people want to predict sports outcomes...

AI can sort it out faster than doing it by yourself though. of course it will not predict exactly what the outcome. there is no such thing but it will give its user an idea how things could play out. there is already an AI or MMA and boxing which somehow is useful. but then they know there is politics and mafia in these sort of sports. we can't rely to AIs especially to the hyped bouts.

football i think is different due to several athletes re involve. AI can gather which one has injury and which one is not around. so using the AI in real time will be convenient.

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Re: Does AI helps in football prediction
« Reply #29 on: January 15, 2025, 10:43:27 PM »
I was having an arguement yesterday with some with AI,he said his friend uses AI to predicts football and it works for him,that his friend won 1.2million,i really disagree with him because if such occurs is luck.
Please let's discuss if truely AI helps in football predictions.
Even someone won by the AI  prediction that is nothing but a coincident.
We must keep believing on this gambling result depend on luck otherwise if this is much easier like this There will be no gambling site or a gambling think in the world.
And I also think that artificial intelligent would be only a tool for analysing the team past record nothing but so artificial  intelligent isn't not really help any result it just help you only data analysis.

 

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