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Learning & News => For Beginners => Basic questions about this forum => Topic started by: Pablo-wood on January 18, 2025, 06:30:17 PM
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I think the karma system is being abused here. I don't know for what reason I was given a negative karma and who gave me the negative karma. I feel this system is gradually losing its value has anyone can just give out negative karma simply because you don't agree with another persons opinion even without doing proper research.
I will like to know who gave me the negative karma and for what reason.
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You literally registered 4 days ago, how can you say that the system is losing it's value? All because of just one - Karma!?
It could be abused here and there but if someone is regularly involved in such activities their Karma previlage can be revoked by the admin so I doubt anyone dare to do that.
Now let's just take some time to analyse on your side but the suggestion has been made already about this matter, atleast a reason for negative or positive karma can be more effective but still in progress.
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I think the karma system is being abused here. I don't know for what reason I was given a negative karma and who gave me the negative karma. I feel this system is gradually losing its value has anyone can just give out negative karma simply because you don't agree with another persons opinion even without doing proper research.
I will like to know who gave me the negative karma and for what reason.
Did you fall a victim of the reason for receiving negative karma from the below explanations?
- Positive karma is granted to users providing good answers, interesting questions, useful topics and helpful contributions to the forum
- Negative karma is given to users who are misbehaving, breaking the rules, being aggressive or disruptive to the forum
Source https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=657.0 (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=657.0)
Did you also take out time to go through some of the rules and regulations here in the forum, cause I don't think anyone will for no reason give a negative karma. With the time I've spent here in the forum, this is a forum with friendly environment for every member.
If truly you did nothing that worth receiving negative karma, you can make an appeal for it's removal with either your points or your ALTS.
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Admin can tell who gave you karma from its karma logs, those who abused it receives consequences by giving appropriate badge and lots of negative karma.
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Admin can tell who gave you karma grom its karma logs, those who abused it receives consequences by giving appropriate badge and lots of negative karma.
Thank you for this reply. I so wish Adim will react to this post. If I have made a post that is below the forum standard, a spam post or low quality post I will admit my negative karma in good faith but I am certain since I joined this forum I haven't spammed nor dropped a post that is below the forum standard. If someone isn't ok with my opinion is it enough to drop a negative karma simply because the meet the rank requirements to dish out karma.
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Read this ----> https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=316161.0
the Eye of Sauron enable you to see who gave you karma, but it is paid feature
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I think the karma system is being abused here. I don't know for what reason I was given a negative karma and who gave me the negative karma. I feel this system is gradually losing its value has anyone can just give out negative karma simply because you don't agree with another persons opinion even without doing proper research.
I will like to know who gave me the negative karma and for what reason.
Yes anyone who have opposite ideas to yours they can give negative karma but another person if have the same ideas might give positive karma but if you are still getting negative karma on your profile then there is a chance that you are being watched.
You just teleported, and I don't feel like I read many of your's posts before. If you are newbie and made some spam posts then don't or if you posted in the wrong section then that can also get you negative karma there are ways to know who give you negative karma like by burning the token of this forum.
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... If someone isn't ok with my opinion is it enough to drop a negative karma simply because the meet the rank requirements to dish out karma.
Yes, they can, and it cannot be called as "abused", karma abused is repeated action, if they usually give you -karma in every 10 hours, then it is abusive. Nonetheless i give you + to make your karma back in neutral zero.
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I think the karma system is being abused here. I don't know for what reason I was given a negative karma and who gave me the negative karma. I feel this system is gradually losing its value has anyone can just give out negative karma simply because you don't agree with another persons opinion even without doing proper research.
I will like to know who gave me the negative karma and for what reason.
As other users have already told you, losing a Karma point is not an abuse. And don't worry, it's easier to gain Karma than to lose it, so you won't have any problems getting it back if you're active on the forum.
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Yes anyone who have opposite ideas to yours they can give negative karma but another person if have the same ideas might give positive karma but if you are still getting negative karma on your profile then there is a chance that you are being watched.
This is not due to a difference of ideas. The fact of receiving negative Karma should not be due to a difference between users when it comes to thinking or giving their opinion about something. It must be because of the way a post or thread is written, with bad words, disrespect or scams, but not because of ideas. Ideas are what give us the most knowledge.
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Yes, they can, and it cannot be called as "abused", karma abused is repeated action, if they usually give you -karma in every 10 hours, then it is abusive. Nonetheless i give you + to make your karma back in neutral zero.
Maybe that's not entirely true, I could give negative karma to someone every 10 hours if I find him/her still doing something annoying continuously... well at least that's the punishment I can do as a member before the disturbance really becomes serious, then reporting to the moderator is the last option....
The abuse of karma that I think is possible is when a user has many accounts to send karma to his/her main account... farming karma with this method is very possible and it is a serious violation...
Users with a high amount of karma usually reflect good quality posts... if the quality of the posts and the amount of karma are not balanced, it's worth questioning, right?
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This is not due to a difference of ideas. The fact of receiving negative Karma should not be due to a difference between users when it comes to thinking or giving their opinion about something. It must be because of the way a post or thread is written, with bad words, disrespect or scams, but not because of ideas. Ideas are what give us the most knowledge.
I did not mean to say idea especially because whatever a person is saying to another person either in local community or in political board or in sections where one like someone and other don't like it and they try to share their ideas on that topic can lead to negative karma to each other I have seen this one time.
Otherwise, we should give negative karma to scammers and ai shit posters whenever we find one, so next time, they won't do that, but it takes a lot of courage to give someone negative karma because it seems to be a big thing do you get the same thought.
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I think the karma system is being abused here. I don't know for what reason I was given a negative karma and who gave me the negative karma. I feel this system is gradually losing its value has anyone can just give out negative karma simply because you don't agree with another persons opinion even without doing proper research.
I will like to know who gave me the negative karma and for what reason.
Sorry that you cant know who dish you the negative karma, but i can bet you that it must have been that you made a wrong post in such a manner that in not needed here to have deserved for that, or probably you engaged in any form of suspicious activity in which make the person give you a karma, also know that karma is mostly been given by the experienced users from the rank of senior member upwards, newbies and full member ranks downward cant give a karma, for you to have received such, then there is something you have done wrong.
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I think the karma system is being abused here. I don't know for what reason I was given a negative karma and who gave me the negative karma. I feel this system is gradually losing its value has anyone can just give out negative karma simply because you don't agree with another persons opinion even without doing proper research.
If you feel losing karma constantly, you can use the feature of "The Eye of Sauron" (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=316161.0). Admin may check your case, the sender of negative karma can get a punishment if he gave it without a clear reason. So, you shouldn't be worried with karma system because it is always improved by Admin.
As other users have already told you, losing a Karma point is not an abuse. And don't worry, it's easier to gain Karma than to lose it, so you won't have any problems getting it back if you're active on the forum.
Sending negative karma constantly without a clear reason can be a kind of abuse as well. And sometimes, it is not really easy to get karma+. However, it is a challenge, it is not so different with merit system.
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I think the karma system is being abused here. I don't know for what reason I was given a negative karma and who gave me the negative karma. I feel this system is gradually losing its value has anyone can just give out negative karma simply because you don't agree with another persons opinion even without doing proper research.
I will like to know who gave me the negative karma and for what reason.
I don't give negative karma to anyone I feel like I don't agree with their idea or perspective because this is something we should value for example if you have a supportive point on something and I have a point against it, and we are sharing it with each other it does not mean I would give negative karma to you because you are opposing my idea or persepective.
We all should respect each other and should not give negative karma to each other on a prospective basis, it might be possible that you get negative karma mistakenly I mean, there is no confirmation message before the negative karma, like once I meant to give positive karma to someone but I mistakenly hit negative karma, and it quickly added to the person's karma.
Probably bad for them, but I remembered, and after 8 hours, I gave positive karma to manage the case. We all should be careful by doing this until we get a notification system.
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I don't give negative karma to anyone I feel like I don't agree with their idea or perspective because this is something we should value for example if you have a supportive point on something and I have a point against it, and we are sharing it with each other it does not mean I would give negative karma to you because you are opposing my idea or persepective.
Yeah that's very nice +1 Karma. The thing is I find it very wrong to drop a negative Karma on another users Profile when you know fully well that he didn't scam anyone or attempt to in the first place. Difference in point of view or little differences in ideas and beliefs isn't enough to warrant a negative Karma. There was a time here when I got too many negative Karma than normal I had to eventually create a thread about it.
To a nice extent I think admin really watches the karma system on his end. I think there was a case once here were abusers lost all his accumulated karma.
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I did not mean to say idea especially because whatever a person is saying to another person either in local community or in political board or in sections where one like someone and other don't like it and they try to share their ideas on that topic can lead to negative karma to each other I have seen this one time.
Otherwise, we should give negative karma to scammers and ai shit posters whenever we find one, so next time, they won't do that, but it takes a lot of courage to give someone negative karma because it seems to be a big thing do you get the same thought.
Giving negative Karma to a user is not the end of the world. And sometimes I think that it should not be interpreted as a punishment, but as a wake-up call, to change and improve certain behaviors. For other cases and occasions it should be a punishment.
Sending negative karma constantly without a clear reason can be a kind of abuse as well. And sometimes, it is not really easy to get karma+. However, it is a challenge, it is not so different with merit system.
Abuses are punished in that sense, as you know. As for the Karma system being no different than the BTT merit system, I don't agree with you, Karma is earned more easily and is not tied to users' rank increase. That's why it's so difficult for users to get merits there.
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Do not worry yourself too much, especially over something that you cannot control. It is obvious that you cannot control who gives you + or - Karma. However, like every good and improving system, there are methods in place to check Karma abuse, so if it becomes a recurring issue, the admin can step in, just enjoy the forum.
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I will like to know who gave me the negative karma and for what reason.
It's obviously not in the hands of users in this forum to spot who gave a negative or positive karma due to reasons of misusage.
I guess the reason for not noticing who gave u a negative karma is because of revenge which will lead to misuse... (It is obvious amongst users that if one feels his points are legit in respect to his source of research, and he ends up getting a negative karma, if he gets to identify the user who gave him negative karma, he would want to payback with double..
All you have to do is continue being active and publishing constructive and helpful post, topics/comments and you'll grow your karmas.
You can check out the rules and regulations from link posted by STUART on what and how to get karmas.
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Giving negative Karma to a user is not the end of the world. And sometimes I think that it should not be interpreted as a punishment, but as a wake-up call, to change and improve certain behaviors. For other cases and occasions it should be a punishment.
You are right it is not the end of world but I always remained careful in giving negative karma because I don't want to hurt the feelings of someone who made a mistake and not a spammer actually. I guess I have to change my method and be more aggressive, as you recall it is not a punishment but a wake-up call for the receiver to be more accurate and informative in his post.
So, that means we should give negative karma to people making bullshit or low-quality posts, not just to plagiarists and posters.
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I think the karma system is being abused here. I don't know for what reason I was given a negative karma and who gave me the negative karma. I feel this system is gradually losing its value has anyone can just give out negative karma simply because you don't agree with another persons opinion even without doing proper research.
I will like to know who gave me the negative karma and for what reason.
Everyone making a quality contribution will not be given a negative karma, just try to improve on what you're doing and stop making what could be suspicious to others as well as annoying in other for them not to find your profile worthy of negative karma, instead they will give you a positive one, when you post well, i hope you're checking on what others are also posting as well on their profiles.
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Abuses are punished in that sense, as you know.
Sure. Karma abuse deserves to get a punishment.
As for the Karma system being no different than the BTT merit system, I don't agree with you, Karma is earned more easily and is not tied to users' rank increase. That's why it's so difficult for users to get merits there.
Are you trying to say that merits are so difficult to earn in bitcointalk? I assume it's quite subjective, it depends on own perception. In fact, there are many ways to get merits in a quite easy way there. I have also been there for years, there was no much difference with karma system in my opinion. However, we must admit that karma system in altcoinstalks is more friendly.
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Everyone making a quality contribution will not be given a negative karma,
In normal circumstances that is what is supposed to happen, but you cannot stop someone from clicking on the - Karma just because you disagreed with them or had an argument with them. In such a case, it is karma abuse and the admin will have to step in and punish the offender.
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Are you trying to say that merits are so difficult to earn in bitcointalk? I assume it's quite subjective, it depends on own perception. In fact, there are many ways to get merits in a quite easy way there. I have also been there for years, there was no much difference with karma system in my opinion. However, we must admit that karma system in altcoinstalks is more friendly.
Karma here is easier to obtain than merit in BitcoinTalk. Note that it is not associated with reaching new ranks, so it is not associated with more users trying to participate in signature campaigns, so it is not associated with greater competition in signature campaigns that require a higher amount of merit to participate. Everything is a chain, but in this case, without blocks ;)
As I myself would have said in another era, everything is a question of politics.
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I think the karma system is being abused here. I don't know for what reason I was given a negative karma and who gave me the negative karma. I feel this system is gradually losing its value has anyone can just give out negative karma simply because you don't agree with another persons opinion even without doing proper research.
I will like to know who gave me the negative karma and for what reason.
It must be admitted that the forum has improved a lot and many things have been updated here. Previously, if you replied to a post, you would not receive a notification about who replied, but now that addition has been made to the forum and notifications about who sent you a message or replied are easily available.
So, regardless of whether it's called negative karma or positive karma, at some point an update will come out and it will be visible who gave negative karma and who gave positive karma.
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The question the op ask is something I was thinking of asking before I come across this thread, like bitcointalk if someone should give you Merit you will know who gave you the merit, the thread and post that was merit. I had one karma and I have been looking for a means to know who gave me the karma and the thread and the post that was given the karma
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The question the op ask is something I was thinking of asking before I come across this thread, like bitcointalk if someone should give you Merit you will know who gave you the merit, the thread and post that was merit. I had one karma and I have been looking for a means to know who gave me the karma and the thread and the post that was given the karma
No, it is not possible to know which user gives you Karma (positive or negative) and it is not possible to know in which thread/post the Karma is given. This question has been answered many times in other threads similar to this one. Only the administrator, the president and some global moderator have access to the Karma logs to be able to control that there is no type of abuse by a user or group of users. This avoids many problems we have seen in the past.
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I prefer it this way for us not having the ability of knowing who is giving us karma, it has been made simple and easy to do, if you think you deserve it, then work on yourself and render a quality post that may encourage someone to give you one which is positive, but if you're spamming or posting what is not expected of you, then you may have to end up receiving a negative karma and this is the explanation on how it is being done.
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I prefer it this way for us not having the ability of knowing who is giving us karma, it has been made simple and easy to do, if you think you deserve it, then work on yourself and render a quality post that may encourage someone to give you one which is positive, but if you're spamming or posting what is not expected of you, then you may have to end up receiving a negative karma and this is the explanation on how it is being done.
Moreover, I think if he is getting suspiciously negative karma every day and has a quality post background, then he can talk to the admin or moderators first and later if the admin wants, they will check his log to see if he is actually being abused by karma.
And we have already seen many karma abusers on this forum receive many types of tags as penalties.