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Title: I am starting to believe the market for ETH is an interest bearing stake or bond
Post by: philipma1957 on March 05, 2025, 07:21:39 PM
I went with option 4. I think eth is like a bond and will never jump up quickly in price but eventually reach 5k.

It is a stake it and forget it product.
Title: Re: I am starting to believe the market for ETH is an interest bearing stake or bond
Post by: erus on March 06, 2025, 06:36:26 AM
I went with option 4. I think eth is like a bond and will never jump up quickly in price but eventually reach 5k.
It is a stake it and forget it product.
I choose point number 4, I am sure Ethereum can reach a price of 5,000 dollars because there are so many projects on the Ethereum blockchain. The ecosystem on Ethereum is very large and maybe I can't mention it one by one.
Then if I'm not mistaken, if we have 32 Ethereum then we can become a Validator with extraordinary profits per year (APY). Just imagining it I think it's very profitable, what if I have 4 Ethereum I can definitely relax at home and get real rewards.
Title: Re: I am starting to believe the market for ETH is an interest bearing stake or bond
Post by: rdluffy on March 07, 2025, 01:29:54 PM
At this rate, Bitcoin would need to reach at least 200k for ETH to reach 5k hahaha  ;D

I'm still in doubt, ETH seems very weak, and EF took a while to take action
A lot of people used ETH to restake and farm airdrops in this cycle and the strength of all this seems to be diminishing
Lots of L1 networks, lots of L2s, lots of projects, all further diluting the money

I see a very difficult situation for ETH to reach 5k in a short or medium space of time
Title: Re: I am starting to believe the market for ETH is an interest bearing stake or bond
Post by: examplens on March 07, 2025, 01:54:59 PM
I went with option 4. I think eth is like a bond and will never jump up quickly in price but eventually reach 5k.

It is a stake it and forget it product.
I don't think the current staking rewards are enough to even cover inflation. When we take into account the necessary growth in value, which is absent in Ethereum, I don't see a very bright future.
"Forget" seems quite risky to me in this case.
Title: Re: I am starting to believe the market for ETH is an interest bearing stake or bond
Post by: hugeblack on March 07, 2025, 01:57:19 PM
The only thing keeping Ethereum in the spotlight is the price (market cap) and if nothing good happens this year I think we will see a long term downtrend for Ethereum and some competitors rising. So if it doesn't break 5k to 7k it will be bad for the long term trend.
Title: Re: I am starting to believe the market for ETH is an interest bearing stake or bond
Post by: target on March 07, 2025, 03:21:47 PM

Then so are the tokens for staking which technically stakers earn tokens like validators of ETH. But then it does need institutions  or Trump adding them to the reserves to be considered bonds in crypto.

Its slow rise of the institutions are just preventing it from sky rocketing, they just want it uninteresting for people and only want the earnings for themselves. Becoming a staker should also be our goal also.
Title: Re: I am starting to believe the market for ETH is an interest bearing stake or bond
Post by: rdluffy on March 07, 2025, 03:29:02 PM
I just want to add that in my opinion price is not 100% of the project, but it's really important to follow the values of the market
 Vitalik this time seemed to care a bit more about the direction of the ETH and made some changes such as changing the position of former CEO Aya Miyaguchi who is now a board chair
https://www.ethnews.com/ethereum-foundation-ceo-steps-down-amid-leadership-reshuffle/

And they already announced the new leadership > https://cointelegraph.com/news/ethereum-foundation-announces-new-leadership

Title: Re: I am starting to believe the market for ETH is an interest bearing stake or bond
Post by: armanda90 on March 07, 2025, 05:39:27 PM
Seems take more longer time for Ethereum raise to $5k after Bybit ETH fund stolen make price of Ethereum huge significant dump, last week Donald Trump as US president advertising Ethereum as top his choose altcoin but still difficult break out to higher price. I think Ethereum price up until $5k most influence with bitcoin price, during bitcoin still dump under $100k I don't sure have chance to see ETH price break out exactly hit new ATH above $4k.
Now Ethereum as usually other altcoin get huge down, still under $2,2k and good for buy back but take longer time to sell if have target up to $4k.
Title: Re: I am starting to believe the market for ETH is an interest bearing stake or bond
Post by: Stompix on March 07, 2025, 05:54:19 PM
Then if I'm not mistaken, if we have 32 Ethereum then we can become a Validator with extraordinary profits per year (APY). Just imagining it I think it's very profitable, what if I have 4 Ethereum I can definitely relax at home and get real rewards.

Extraordinary profits?
The staking reward on eth is 3%.
With 4 eth right now you will be earning $20 a month, relax at home with the price of a KFC bucket FOR4?


Title: Re: I am starting to believe the market for ETH is an interest bearing stake or bond
Post by: Mia Chloe on March 07, 2025, 09:36:55 PM
Extraordinary profits?
The staking reward on eth is 3%.
With 4 eth right now you will be earning $20 a month, relax at home with the price of a KFC bucket FOR4?
To an extent weighing the risk to reward of staking looks more like making a fixed deposit in a fiat bank account which in the end you get it penny tagged as interest. This is the reason why some people prefer to invest in some solana meme coins instead of staking their ethereum.

Aside from all that holding the same amount of bitcoins in a wallet and waiting for a regular movement probably something around 10k would put you in way more profits than staking.
Title: Re: I am starting to believe the market for ETH is an interest bearing stake or bond
Post by: philipma1957 on March 08, 2025, 01:01:07 AM
I just want to add that in my opinion price is not 100% of the project, but it's really important to follow the values of the market
 Vitalik this time seemed to care a bit more about the direction of the ETH and made some changes such as changing the position of former CEO Aya Miyaguchi who is now a board chair
https://www.ethnews.com/ethereum-foundation-ceo-steps-down-amid-leadership-reshuffle/

And they already announced the new leadership > https://cointelegraph.com/news/ethereum-foundation-announces-new-leadership

Yeah as they are forming it into a bond like product that can do contracts as the reason for interest

 I no longer see it for fast growth ever again it is much more of a grinder type product.
Title: Re: I am starting to believe the market for ETH is an interest bearing stake or bond
Post by: KryptoBull on March 08, 2025, 10:28:30 AM
I went with option 4. I think eth is like a bond and will never jump up quickly in price but eventually reach 5k.

It is a stake it and forget it product.
Hmm, I don't think ETH is a Bond, it can't be a Bond in any way. And the ETH price won't increase gradually, it will soon explode as soon as the market has good signals from the BTC price increase.

If the ETH price increases gradually, investors will have no reason to be optimistic, greedy or FOMO. Price fluctuations need to be very strong to hit investors' psychology, thereby causing them to withdraw savings from banks to buy ETH. If the ETH price increases very slowly, investors would rather save than take risks when investing in ETH.
Title: Re: I am starting to believe the market for ETH is an interest bearing stake or bond
Post by: bitmover on March 09, 2025, 12:43:17 PM
I went with option 4. I think eth is like a bond and will never jump up quickly in price but eventually reach 5k.

It is a stake it and forget it product.

Ethereum was always less volatile than bitcoin. In the previous cycle, ethereum always moved a few months after bitcoin. It is just taking longer imo.

I don't think we are in the end of the cycle, yet, but we may be close to it.

But I believe we will see ETH price surge this year. Ethereum is the best altcoin, there isn't any other match to it.

Solana is a centralized memecoin hub. BNB is also centralized. Ethereum is the only one which at least tries to be decentralized.
Title: Re: I am starting to believe the market for ETH is an interest bearing stake or bond
Post by: Zed0X on March 09, 2025, 01:06:03 PM
Seems take more longer time for Ethereum raise to $5k after Bybit ETH fund stolen make price of Ethereum huge significant dump,
Yeah, it could be scary to buy ETH now thinking the hackers could dump that many coin at any time. The problem for them is that it's harder to sell those stolen ETH because they are monitored closely. I tried searching the wallets involved in the hacking and found out they're tagged as 'bybit exploiter'.
Title: Re: I am starting to believe the market for ETH is an interest bearing stake or bond
Post by: rizqillah on March 09, 2025, 03:00:38 PM
I went with option 4. I think eth is like a bond and will never jump up quickly in price but eventually reach 5k.

It is a stake it and forget it product.
Hmm, I don't think ETH is a Bond, it can't be a Bond in any way. And the ETH price won't increase gradually, it will soon explode as soon as the market has good signals from the BTC price increase.

If the ETH price increases gradually, investors will have no reason to be optimistic, greedy or FOMO. Price fluctuations need to be very strong to hit investors' psychology, thereby causing them to withdraw savings from banks to buy ETH. If the ETH price increases very slowly, investors would rather save than take risks when investing in ETH.
If they have free money, crypto-loving investors will buy ethereum. ethereum is not a bond, because ethereum will go up if the price of bitcoin goes up.
and if the price of bitcoin goes up high then the price of ethereum will likely go up too.
Crypto investors love market fluctuations because if they have accurate analysis and predictions they will get big profits.
Title: Re: I am starting to believe the market for ETH is an interest bearing stake or bond
Post by: bitmover on March 09, 2025, 04:49:15 PM
Seems take more longer time for Ethereum raise to $5k after Bybit ETH fund stolen make price of Ethereum huge significant dump,
Yeah, it could be scary to buy ETH now thinking the hackers could dump that many coin at any time. The problem for them is that it's harder to sell those stolen ETH because they are monitored closely. I tried searching the wallets involved in the hacking and found out they're tagged as 'bybit exploiter'.

I don't think that it is too much money to really cause panic in the market and make huge mid term fluctuations.

I guess those ethers will be "tainted" for a very long time and they won't be able to dump easily.

I guess they can't even use most DEX for that money and convert to usdt. And it may be risk and also useless  , as the usdt would return to the same address or another one easily tracked.

They used thorchain and other similar which makes bridges, breaking the chain of coins.
Title: Re: I am starting to believe the market for ETH is an interest bearing stake or bond
Post by: Stompix on March 09, 2025, 05:40:24 PM
If they have free money, crypto-loving investors will buy ethereum. ethereum is not a bond, because ethereum will go up if the price of bitcoin goes up.
and if the price of bitcoin goes up high then the price of ethereum will likely go up too.

I love how people take things for granted just like that, for sure things will happen because..
Do I have to remind you how many coins were years ago int he same position and people claimed the same?
EOS? Polka? Let's go for Stellar which is still in top 20 coins, it's down 74% from its ATH.

It's borderline insane to think an asset will grow perpetually because another asset will grow, and that ETH will always be in swing with BTC price.
There is absolutely no guarantee whatsoever this will happen.

BTC has a clear path ahead, ETH is struggling to portray any kind of unique traits that would keep him in competition.

Title: Re: I am starting to believe the market for ETH is an interest bearing stake or bond
Post by: philipma1957 on March 11, 2025, 12:03:11 AM
I went with option 4. I think eth is like a bond and will never jump up quickly in price but eventually reach 5k.

It is a stake it and forget it product.
Hmm, I don't think ETH is a Bond, it can't be a Bond in any way. And the ETH price won't increase gradually, it will soon explode as soon as the market has good signals from the BTC price increase.

If the ETH price increases gradually, investors will have no reason to be optimistic, greedy or FOMO. Price fluctuations need to be very strong to hit investors' psychology, thereby causing them to withdraw savings from banks to buy ETH. If the ETH price increases very slowly, investors would rather save than take risks when investing in ETH.
If they have free money, crypto-loving investors will buy ethereum. ethereum is not a bond, because ethereum will go up if the price of bitcoin goes up.
and if the price of bitcoin goes up high then the price of ethereum will likely go up too.
Crypto investors love market fluctuations because if they have accurate analysis and predictions they will get big profits.

so wrong eth is decoupled bigly from crypto

it is simply a bond like instrument with use case value.

which is why it is under 2k down from an ath of 4.9k
Title: Re: I am starting to believe the market for ETH is an interest bearing stake or bond
Post by: ABCbits on March 12, 2025, 11:24:20 AM
It is a stake it and forget it product.

With so many ETH staking, restaking and layer 2 options, i can't say you're wrong. Even Ethereum website state over 33M ETH is being staked[1], which is more than a quarter of ETH total supply. And it's rare to see people talks about using ETH to pay for goods/services these days.

[1] https://launchpad.ethereum.org/en/ (https://launchpad.ethereum.org/en/)
Title: Re: I am starting to believe the market for ETH is an interest bearing stake or bond
Post by: tequilla_sunset on March 12, 2025, 12:37:39 PM
It is a stake it and forget it product.

With so many ETH staking, restaking and layer 2 options, i can't say you're wrong. Even Ethereum website state over 33M ETH is being staked[1], which is more than a quarter of ETH total supply. And it's rare to see people talks about using ETH to pay for goods/services these days.

[1] https://launchpad.ethereum.org/en/ (https://launchpad.ethereum.org/en/)

BTC is hodled, ETH is staked, mostly.

Ying and yang of the market and its truths that should be used  ;)
Title: Re: I am starting to believe the market for ETH is an interest bearing stake or bond
Post by: philipma1957 on March 14, 2025, 04:32:00 AM
It is a stake it and forget it product.

With so many ETH staking, restaking and layer 2 options, i can't say you're wrong. Even Ethereum website state over 33M ETH is being staked[1], which is more than a quarter of ETH total supply. And it's rare to see people talks about using ETH to pay for goods/services these days.

[1] https://launchpad.ethereum.org/en/ (https://launchpad.ethereum.org/en/)

BTC is hodled, ETH is staked, mostly.

Ying and yang of the market and its truths that should be used  ;)

And [BTC] banks on limited coins 21 million which means it is rare this price e ones up = profit

Eth banks on steady stake interest like a bond = a steady price which will not tend to moon.

Basically  it will not go up in price much  as it revamped itself with POS.

Yeah gamestop stock whale via influence but eth may not do this. For years to come.
Title: Re: I am starting to believe the market for ETH is an interest bearing stake or bond
Post by: omori on March 21, 2025, 06:32:25 PM
And [BTC] banks on limited coins 21 million which means it is rare this price e ones up = profit

Eth banks on steady stake interest like a bond = a steady price which will not tend to moon.

Basically  it will not go up in price much  as it revamped itself with POS.

Yeah gamestop stock whale via influence but eth may not do this. For years to come.

Also, L2's eat lots of liquidity and funds for the overall cap, as far I've read through. But that's only some of the reasons why ETH is not in the spotlight.. currently.
Title: Re: I am starting to believe the market for ETH is an interest bearing stake or bond
Post by: Trongduy on March 22, 2025, 04:23:57 PM
I went with option 4. I think eth is like a bond and will never jump up quickly in price but eventually reach 5k.

It is a stake it and forget it product.
No, ETH isn't a bond, it's a whole new asset in the crypto world. Bonds give you that tiny, fixed interest, while ETH? Man, that thing can skyrocket hundreds of percent in an uptrend.

Plus, bonds are kinda useless, right? But ETH, you can use it to pay transaction fees on the blockchain. I'm telling you, ETH is way more flexible than bonds, like, a million times more. It's also decentralized, so you don't have to trust anyone or any big shot organization.
Title: Re: I am starting to believe the market for ETH is an interest bearing stake or bond
Post by: rizqillah on March 22, 2025, 07:43:53 PM
I went with option 4. I think eth is like a bond and will never jump up quickly in price but eventually reach 5k.

It is a stake it and forget it product.
No, ETH isn't a bond, it's a whole new asset in the crypto world. Bonds give you that tiny, fixed interest, while ETH? Man, that thing can skyrocket hundreds of percent in an uptrend.

Plus, bonds are kinda useless, right? But ETH, you can use it to pay transaction fees on the blockchain. I'm telling you, ETH is way more flexible than bonds, like, a million times more. It's also decentralized, so you don't have to trust anyone or any big shot organization.
Ethereum is more profitable than bonds and this is what makes many investors prefer ethereum. We can get higher profits if we buy during the bearish season and hold it until the bullish season.
so bitcoin, ethereum and other altcoins are potential assets that can provide benefits to investors,
Title: Re: I am starting to believe the market for ETH is an interest bearing stake or bond
Post by: Blaze on March 24, 2025, 11:32:48 PM
I went with option 4. I think eth is like a bond and will never jump up quickly in price but eventually reach 5k.

It is a stake it and forget it product.
No, ETH isn't a bond, it's a whole new asset in the crypto world. Bonds give you that tiny, fixed interest, while ETH? Man, that thing can skyrocket hundreds of percent in an uptrend.

Plus, bonds are kinda useless, right? But ETH, you can use it to pay transaction fees on the blockchain. I'm telling you, ETH is way more flexible than bonds, like, a million times more. It's also decentralized, so you don't have to trust anyone or any big shot organization.
Ethereum is more profitable than bonds and this is what makes many investors prefer ethereum. We can get higher profits if we buy during the bearish season and hold it until the bullish season.
so bitcoin, ethereum and other altcoins are potential assets that can provide benefits to investors,
Yes, you are absolutely correct, Ethereum offers good investment opportunity for those investors who seek higher return than those obtainable from financial instruments. It tend to have a different structure from the rest of the common markets in the sense that it is possible to earn even higher returns when prices are fluctuating in the extreme. It is always a good move to buy stocks at a low price during the bearish period and retain them until when the bulls feature again. Besides Ethereum, Bitcoin is still the leading token in which many people hold their confidence, while other cryptocurrencies keep expanding with appealing innovations. That is why the availability of technological innovation and the growing demand for a specific market positively affect the degree of relevance of digital assets as an investment tool.
Title: Re: I am starting to believe the market for ETH is an interest bearing stake or bond
Post by: omori on March 25, 2025, 11:09:09 AM
I went with option 4. I think eth is like a bond and will never jump up quickly in price but eventually reach 5k.

It is a stake it and forget it product.
No, ETH isn't a bond, it's a whole new asset in the crypto world. Bonds give you that tiny, fixed interest, while ETH? Man, that thing can skyrocket hundreds of percent in an uptrend.

Plus, bonds are kinda useless, right? But ETH, you can use it to pay transaction fees on the blockchain. I'm telling you, ETH is way more flexible than bonds, like, a million times more. It's also decentralized, so you don't have to trust anyone or any big shot organization.
Ethereum is more profitable than bonds and this is what makes many investors prefer ethereum. We can get higher profits if we buy during the bearish season and hold it until the bullish season.
so bitcoin, ethereum and other altcoins are potential assets that can provide benefits to investors,

..If people would be able to hodl long enough, then, yeah, I agree.
Title: Re: I am starting to believe the market for ETH is an interest bearing stake or bond
Post by: Stuart on March 26, 2025, 02:56:48 AM
ETH has been a good coin over the years of its existence and has created solid foundation for tons of altcoins in the crypto industry. The price movement has been on a slow journey, and it seems it is not bordered. The price rises on a slow manner no matter the situation of the market bull run. ETH will possibly reach the price mark of $5k, because it has an ATH of $4,891 as at November 16, 2021. Though it has not gotten to this height for a period, but if we see it closing on its ATH again, then breaking this $5k will be attainable.
Title: Re: I am starting to believe the market for ETH is an interest bearing stake or bond
Post by: Azharul on March 26, 2025, 04:58:49 AM
ETH has been a good coin over the years of its existence and has created solid foundation for tons of altcoins in the crypto industry. The price movement has been on a slow journey, and it seems it is not bordered. The price rises on a slow manner no matter the situation of the market bull run. ETH will possibly reach the price mark of $5k, because it has an ATH of $4,891 as at November 16, 2021. Though it has not gotten to this height for a period, but if we see it closing on its ATH again, then breaking this $5k will be attainable.
Ethereum is the best profitable crypto in cryptocurrency market. I think that gradually it's price will increase in crypto currency market. So I am also agree with your prefer comment. I also believe that gradually Ethereum price will reach besides near of $5k. But if we follow in cryptocurrency market we can see that Ethereum price will now $2k up. But when bitcoin or others crypto currency price will reach best position, then Ethereum price will increase gradually high level.