I am starting to believe the market for ETH is an interest bearing stake or bond

[philipma1957]

I went with option 4. I think eth is like a bond and will never jump up quickly in price but eventually reach 5k.

It is a stake it and forget it product.

[erus]

I went with option 4. I think eth is like a bond and will never jump up quickly in price but eventually reach 5k.
It is a stake it and forget it product.

I choose point number 4, I am sure Ethereum can reach a price of 5,000 dollars because there are so many projects on the Ethereum blockchain. The ecosystem on Ethereum is very large and maybe I can't mention it one by one.
Then if I'm not mistaken, if we have 32 Ethereum then we can become a Validator with extraordinary profits per year (APY). Just imagining it I think it's very profitable, what if I have 4 Ethereum I can definitely relax at home and get real rewards.

[rdluffy]

At this rate, Bitcoin would need to reach at least 200k for ETH to reach 5k hahaha 

I'm still in doubt, ETH seems very weak, and EF took a while to take action
A lot of people used ETH to restake and farm airdrops in this cycle and the strength of all this seems to be diminishing
Lots of L1 networks, lots of L2s, lots of projects, all further diluting the money

I see a very difficult situation for ETH to reach 5k in a short or medium space of time

[examplens]

I went with option 4. I think eth is like a bond and will never jump up quickly in price but eventually reach 5k.

It is a stake it and forget it product.

I don't think the current staking rewards are enough to even cover inflation. When we take into account the necessary growth in value, which is absent in Ethereum, I don't see a very bright future.
"Forget" seems quite risky to me in this case.

[hugeblack]

The only thing keeping Ethereum in the spotlight is the price (market cap) and if nothing good happens this year I think we will see a long term downtrend for Ethereum and some competitors rising. So if it doesn't break 5k to 7k it will be bad for the long term trend.

[target]

Then so are the tokens for staking which technically stakers earn tokens like validators of ETH. But then it does need institutions  or Trump adding them to the reserves to be considered bonds in crypto.

Its slow rise of the institutions are just preventing it from sky rocketing, they just want it uninteresting for people and only want the earnings for themselves. Becoming a staker should also be our goal also.

[rdluffy]

I just want to add that in my opinion price is not 100% of the project, but it's really important to follow the values of the market
 Vitalik this time seemed to care a bit more about the direction of the ETH and made some changes such as changing the position of former CEO Aya Miyaguchi who is now a board chair
https://www.ethnews.com/ethereum-foundation-ceo-steps-down-amid-leadership-reshuffle/

And they already announced the new leadership > https://cointelegraph.com/news/ethereum-foundation-announces-new-leadership

[armanda90]

Seems take more longer time for Ethereum raise to $5k after Bybit ETH fund stolen make price of Ethereum huge significant dump, last week Donald Trump as US president advertising Ethereum as top his choose altcoin but still difficult break out to higher price. I think Ethereum price up until $5k most influence with bitcoin price, during bitcoin still dump under $100k I don't sure have chance to see ETH price break out exactly hit new ATH above $4k.
Now Ethereum as usually other altcoin get huge down, still under $2,2k and good for buy back but take longer time to sell if have target up to $4k.

[Stompix]

Then if I'm not mistaken, if we have 32 Ethereum then we can become a Validator with extraordinary profits per year (APY). Just imagining it I think it's very profitable, what if I have 4 Ethereum I can definitely relax at home and get real rewards.

Extraordinary profits?
The staking reward on eth is 3%.
With 4 eth right now you will be earning $20 a month, relax at home with the price of a KFC bucket FOR4?

[Mia Chloe]

Extraordinary profits?
The staking reward on eth is 3%.
With 4 eth right now you will be earning $20 a month, relax at home with the price of a KFC bucket FOR4?

To an extent weighing the risk to reward of staking looks more like making a fixed deposit in a fiat bank account which in the end you get it penny tagged as interest. This is the reason why some people prefer to invest in some solana meme coins instead of staking their ethereum.

Aside from all that holding the same amount of bitcoins in a wallet and waiting for a regular movement probably something around 10k would put you in way more profits than staking.

[philipma1957]

I just want to add that in my opinion price is not 100% of the project, but it's really important to follow the values of the market
 Vitalik this time seemed to care a bit more about the direction of the ETH and made some changes such as changing the position of former CEO Aya Miyaguchi who is now a board chair
https://www.ethnews.com/ethereum-foundation-ceo-steps-down-amid-leadership-reshuffle/

And they already announced the new leadership > https://cointelegraph.com/news/ethereum-foundation-announces-new-leadership

Yeah as they are forming it into a bond like product that can do contracts as the reason for interest

 I no longer see it for fast growth ever again it is much more of a grinder type product.

[KryptoBull]

I went with option 4. I think eth is like a bond and will never jump up quickly in price but eventually reach 5k.

It is a stake it and forget it product.

Hmm, I don't think ETH is a Bond, it can't be a Bond in any way. And the ETH price won't increase gradually, it will soon explode as soon as the market has good signals from the BTC price increase.

If the ETH price increases gradually, investors will have no reason to be optimistic, greedy or FOMO. Price fluctuations need to be very strong to hit investors' psychology, thereby causing them to withdraw savings from banks to buy ETH. If the ETH price increases very slowly, investors would rather save than take risks when investing in ETH.

[bitmover]

I went with option 4. I think eth is like a bond and will never jump up quickly in price but eventually reach 5k.

It is a stake it and forget it product.

Ethereum was always less volatile than bitcoin. In the previous cycle, ethereum always moved a few months after bitcoin. It is just taking longer imo.

I don't think we are in the end of the cycle, yet, but we may be close to it.

But I believe we will see ETH price surge this year. Ethereum is the best altcoin, there isn't any other match to it.

Solana is a centralized memecoin hub. BNB is also centralized. Ethereum is the only one which at least tries to be decentralized.

[Zed0X]

Seems take more longer time for Ethereum raise to $5k after Bybit ETH fund stolen make price of Ethereum huge significant dump,

Yeah, it could be scary to buy ETH now thinking the hackers could dump that many coin at any time. The problem for them is that it's harder to sell those stolen ETH because they are monitored closely. I tried searching the wallets involved in the hacking and found out they're tagged as 'bybit exploiter'.

[rizqillah]

I went with option 4. I think eth is like a bond and will never jump up quickly in price but eventually reach 5k.

It is a stake it and forget it product.

Hmm, I don't think ETH is a Bond, it can't be a Bond in any way. And the ETH price won't increase gradually, it will soon explode as soon as the market has good signals from the BTC price increase.

If the ETH price increases gradually, investors will have no reason to be optimistic, greedy or FOMO. Price fluctuations need to be very strong to hit investors' psychology, thereby causing them to withdraw savings from banks to buy ETH. If the ETH price increases very slowly, investors would rather save than take risks when investing in ETH.

If they have free money, crypto-loving investors will buy ethereum. ethereum is not a bond, because ethereum will go up if the price of bitcoin goes up.
and if the price of bitcoin goes up high then the price of ethereum will likely go up too.
Crypto investors love market fluctuations because if they have accurate analysis and predictions they will get big profits.