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Further Discussions => Privacy Forum => Topic started by: admin on April 06, 2025, 08:46:51 PM
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Just like facebook, Reddit prefers to block you from viewing a page if you are using VPN, unless you login.
So if they can not collect data based on ip or based on logged in user, they prefer not to let you see content on their site.
It is the exactly same strategy as facebook ... Coincidence ? I believe not. Your data, behavior and interests matters to them way more than you think.
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Right now and am sure into the future, data is always considered like a currency and this is the founding pillar of many social media sites especially on making money. The more data they can collect, the more money they can make. Now, the battle is going to be when privacy collides with data collection as these platforms are exerting all the necessary effort they can make to collect data from their users. Hence, if a user is not contributing to their data collection, that user is worthless and therefore has to be blocked.
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Not a coincidence and that's how these platforms evolve and harvest data from us that will be sold. Remember we are the product of these social media so we will be considered not useful when they can't identify and profile us that will be injected into ad programs which will show us the personalized ads.
The Internet started as a tool to share knowledge and data but now it all going in the way of personal profiling by invading our privacy.
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Just like facebook, Reddit prefers to block you from viewing a page if you are using VPN, unless you login.
So if they can not collect data based on ip or based on logged in user, they prefer not to let you see content on their site.
It is the exactly same strategy as facebook ... Coincidence ? I believe not. Your data, behavior and interests matters to them way more than you think.
So users from my country is now kind of fucked up. Reddit is already banned in my country (banned by the government due to NSFW content). I am not sure if they thought it's a porn website, because there are hundreds of dumb workers on the government agencies who has only basic understanding about the internet. They banned Reddit about a year ago or so.
Now, to access Reddit, we have to VPN for sure. If Reddit does now allow VPN users to access their contents, then a lot of people are going to get fucked up. I hate how these people collect our data and sell it as a product.
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Just like facebook, Reddit prefers to block you from viewing a page if you are using VPN, unless you login.
So if they can not collect data based on ip or based on logged in user, they prefer not to let you see content on their site.
It is the exactly same strategy as facebook ... Coincidence ? I believe not. Your data, behavior and interests matters to them way more than you think.
So users from my country is now kind of fucked up. Reddit is already banned in my country (banned by the government due to NSFW content). I am not sure if they thought it's a porn website, because there are hundreds of dumb workers on the government agencies who has only basic understanding about the internet. They banned Reddit about a year ago or so.
Now, to access Reddit, we have to VPN for sure. If Reddit does now allow VPN users to access their contents, then a lot of people are going to get fucked up. I hate how these people collect our data and sell it as a product.
Ohh buddy, Reddit is more than a porn site, it is a place where you can find sharing things that a normal person wouldn't even fantasized about and it's the soft version of OF too but that's what I like about it.
You know what I mean... ;D
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Now, to access Reddit, we have to VPN for sure. If Reddit does now allow VPN users to access their contents, then a lot of people are going to get fucked up. I hate how these people collect our data and sell it as a product.
Not everything is as black as you think, because as @admin wrote, Reddit sometimes blocks a user using a VPN from viewing the content, but you can still log into your account and see all the content even if you use a VPN. As an alternative, you can also try Tor, because you get an even greater dose of anonymity as a guest, and Reddit even has its own official onion address.
https://forum.torproject.org/t/reddit-onion-service-launch/5305
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They are not even allowing browsing their website with VPN, even if you are not logged in, and alternatives like Redlib are having more and more problems.
Maybe they are soon going to facebook route and not allow even regular reading of reddit posts if we are not logged it, and that sounds crazy to me.
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You still can create an account with VPN, right? So at the end of the day it's still usable with full privacy. Connect tp vpn -> create throwaway account -> login and use it. Just a few extra steps and you can use a temp throwaway email for that. Hopefully they don't start forcing sms phone number verifications any time soon.
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Ohh buddy, Reddit is more than a porn site, it is a place where you can find sharing things that a normal person wouldn't even fantasized about and it's the soft version of OF too but that's what I like about it.
You know what I mean... ;D
Well, let's not go to that part ;) ;)
Apart from these things, Reddit contains millions of useful pieces of content that we can use. If the government blocks the entire website just because of some pages, that does not look good. For example, let's say some X accounts share 18+ contents, but that does not mean the entire X should be considered NSFW. What do you think about it?
but you can still log into your account and see all the content even if you use a VPN. As an alternative, you can also try Tor, because you get an even greater dose of anonymity as a guest, and Reddit even has its own official onion address.
I understand that. But not everyone wants to log in to their account to view content.
Using TOR is a good idea though.
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but you can still log into your account and see all the content even if you use a VPN. As an alternative, you can also try Tor, because you get an even greater dose of anonymity as a guest, and Reddit even has its own official onion address.
I understand that. But not everyone wants to log in to their account to view content.
Using TOR is a good idea though.
If people knew Tor existed, they might use it a lot more - because I think I even posted a link earlier that shows the relatively small number of people using it compared to the total number of internet users. Maybe the problem is that surfing with Tor can be quite slow, although I don't have such experience on the desktop version, the situation is completely different on the mobile version.
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but you can still log into your account and see all the content even if you use a VPN. As an alternative, you can also try Tor, because you get an even greater dose of anonymity as a guest, and Reddit even has its own official onion address.
I understand that. But not everyone wants to log in to their account to view content.
Using TOR is a good idea though.
If people knew Tor existed, they might use it a lot more - because I think I even posted a link earlier that shows the relatively small number of people using it compared to the total number of internet users. Maybe the problem is that surfing with Tor can be quite slow, although I don't have such experience on the desktop version, the situation is completely different on the mobile version.
And sometimes as a TOR user, they would have to change the bridge connection every time. I have my experience on BTT that it prompts me not connected anymore if my browsing is idle.
One solution I could add is to use VPN or TOR to register an account if possible. With this I guess there is no data to collect from you are a new user with an IP somewhere else.
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I use Reddit pretty often, but this VPN issue rarely occurs for me (sometimes I log in, sometimes not)... Perhaps it's based on IP, so if a VPN server is blocked, you can always switch to a new one.
Reddit is mostly a non-issue for me; however, I do agree that more websites cannot be accessed with a VPN, mostly Nginx ones, from my experience.
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You still can create an account with VPN, right?
I didn't try creating account with VPN recently, but it's strange that blocks are not always happening, so maybe they are testing something.
I knew they are going to add more restrictions a while ago when they stopped allowed third party services to use their API.
Hopefully they don't start forcing sms phone number verifications any time soon.
I would never use my real phone number connected with reddit, but there are also option to use temp SMS numbers or buy numbers with crypto.
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I didn't try creating account with VPN recently, but it's strange that blocks are not always happening, so maybe they are testing something.
I knew they are going to add more restrictions a while ago when they stopped allowed third party services to use their API.
Could be AB testing. See if the block is enough to make people give out on using reddit or if they just will just disable it, basically doing what they want you to do. :P
But I've noticed that Reddit sometimes ask for login to read even without VPN, not sure how this is related.
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If people knew Tor existed, they might use it a lot more - because I think I even posted a link earlier that shows the relatively small number of people using it compared to the total number of internet users. Maybe the problem is that surfing with Tor can be quite slow, although I don't have such experience on the desktop version, the situation is completely different on the mobile version.
It's not like people don't know about Tor. I guess a lot of people know about Tor, but they don't use it because Tor sometimes works pretty slowly. People love to save their login history in their browser so they don't have to enter the URL or login credentials every time. Also, there might be several other reasons why people prefer regular browsers.
Yeah, the number of TOR users is too low compared to the number of total internet users. That is probably because of what I mentioned above. I also agree that a good number of people don't know about TOR.
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It's not like people don't know about Tor. I guess a lot of people know about Tor, but they don't use it because Tor sometimes works pretty slowly. People love to save their login history in their browser so they don't have to enter the URL or login credentials every time. Also, there might be several other reasons why people prefer regular browsers.
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In general, this slowness exists because of the way Tor works, but I can say from my experience that I am quite satisfied with the speed with which I surf with Tor, even if I use it with a VPN. However, considering that a lot of people use smartphones exclusively to access the internet, it is possible that they have the same problem as me, the mobile version works quite slowly for me personally, and it connects to the internet even slower.
As for saving passwords in the browser in any form, that is a very bad idea. Even when using any other browser, I clear all browsing data before turning off my computer - the amount of data left behind if you don't do this regularly can be truly overwhelming, and then you suddenly wonder why you're running out of space on your HDD.
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Could be AB testing. See if the block is enough to make people give out on using reddit or if they just will just disable it, basically doing what they want you to do. :P
I am visiting reddit on regular basis, but only to read few posts for topics I am following.
If I was forced to do anything else, or add mandatory login, than I would probably stop using reddit, it's not like I can't live without it.
I know some people created nice reddit alternatives, even with bitcoin support, but none of them gain any real popularity.
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I am visiting reddit on regular basis, but only to read few posts for topics I am following.
If I was forced to do anything else, or add mandatory login, than I would probably stop using reddit, it's not like I can't live without it.
I know some people created nice reddit alternatives, even with bitcoin support, but none of them gain any real popularity.
Yeah, the network effect is very strong with reddit. Main thing with it is that I can search "how to fix this issue" and add reddit next to it, I'll probably find a post somewhere that works 10x better than any other help website. Real reviews, real commentary, etc... it's one of the best websites, like it or not. Can't replicate that with any of the clones, specially when there aren't enough communities to make it look alive.
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Thank you for sharing this important information. I actually didn't notice it because I always logged in to my account with or without a VPN, so I didn't notice. But now I tried logging out and then browsing the site, and I got the following screenshot:
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/04/10/xQGzl.jpeg)
I think it doesn't need an explanation. They collect your personal information, so they won't allow you to browse the site if you're not logged in or using a VPN. This is absolutely shameful for a site with such a huge following.
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As for saving passwords in the browser in any form, that is a very bad idea. Even when using any other browser, I clear all browsing data before turning off my computer - the amount of data left behind if you don't do this regularly can be truly overwhelming, and then you suddenly wonder why you're running out of space on your HDD.
Unfortunately, we do that a lot. I have some bookmarks I regularly use to make my life easier. Yeah, I agree that saving browser passwords is a very bad idea. Yet, people do it to make their lives easier. I think people mainly use normal browsers because they want to save their credentials on the browser for the next session.
As for slow internet, I did not try Tor on mobile. I use Tor on my Windows and am okay with the speed. Of course, Tor is mainly for surfing purposes. I can always use regular browsers if I want to download something and need a better connection.
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If people knew Tor existed, they might use it a lot more - because I think I even posted a link earlier that shows the relatively small number of people using it compared to the total number of internet users. Maybe the problem is that surfing with Tor can be quite slow, although I don't have such experience on the desktop version, the situation is completely different on the mobile version.
Where I live it is terribly slow... i use basically when I am using mixers or swaps services like eXch
Thank you for sharing this important information. I actually didn't notice it because I always logged in to my account with or without a VPN, so I didn't notice. But now I tried logging out and then browsing the site, and I got the following screenshot
Yeah, I am basically logged all the time as well. It is a very useful platform, and I am impressed by how many people from this forum also use Reddit.
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I just went to Reddit using vpn, and it was fine. They may be blocking certain vpn ips and not all (I used psiphon vpn on android to test).
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I just went to Reddit using vpn, and it was fine. They may be blocking certain vpn ips and not all (I used psiphon vpn on android to test).
Are you logged in? If you visit the site while logged in, it will work even with a VPN. You must first log out of your account, then try accessing the site with the VPN enabled, and then let us know the results.
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For anyone wanting to use Redlib for reading reddit posts and following stuff, you can check this out:
https://stats.uptimerobot.com/mpmqAs1G2Q
Yeah, the network effect is very strong with reddit. Main thing with it is that I can search "how to fix this issue" and add reddit next to it, I'll probably find a post somewhere that works 10x better than any other help website. Real reviews, real commentary, etc... it's one of the best websites, like it or not. Can't replicate that with any of the clones, specially when there aren't enough communities to make it look alive.
That is true, but I never got used to being active and writing on reddit because they had some silly censorship rules.
I also remember people claiming they easily got banned on r/bitcoin because of different opinions.
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I just went to Reddit using vpn, and it was fine. They may be blocking certain vpn ips and not all (I used psiphon vpn on android to test).
Are you logged in? If you visit the site while logged in, it will work even with a VPN. You must first log out of your account, then try accessing the site with the VPN enabled, and then let us know the results.
No, I was not logged in.
Yeah, the network effect is very strong with reddit. Main thing with it is that I can search "how to fix this issue" and add reddit next to it, I'll probably find a post somewhere that works 10x better than any other help website. Real reviews, real commentary, etc... it's one of the best websites, like it or not. Can't replicate that with any of the clones, specially when there aren't enough communities to make it look alive.
That is true, but I never got used to being active and writing on reddit because they had some silly censorship rules.
I also remember people claiming they easily got banned on r/bitcoin because of different opinions.
It is dependent on particular subs rules, some are strict, some are not. Nothing wrong with Reddit on it's own.
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(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/04/10/xQGzl.jpeg)
I think it doesn't need an explanation. They collect your personal information, so they won't allow you to browse the site if you're not logged in or using a VPN. This is absolutely shameful for a site with such a huge following.
I don't see much logic in the fact that they want to collect data on users by preventing them from viewing content without logging in using a VPN, and at the same time they have an onion version so you can view content regardless of whether you are logged in or not using Tor...
I think we have already discussed that most VPNs may not be the best choice for privacy because they are mostly owned by some companies that are again connected to spy agencies.
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I don't see much logic in the fact that they want to collect data on users by preventing them from viewing content without logging in using a VPN, and at the same time they have an onion version so you can view content regardless of whether you are logged in or not using Tor...
So, what do you think is the most logical reason for blocking visitors from browsing the site using a VPN? I haven't seen any other reason other than collecting personal data. But this is actually illogical, given that, as you mentioned, they have an onion version for incognito browsing.
Some sites block VPNs because they block certain countries, so they don't want users from those countries to bypass the block using a VPN. Could this be the reason?
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Yeah, the number of TOR users is too low compared to the number of total internet users. That is probably because of what I mentioned above. I also agree that a good number of people don't know about TOR.
Those people who understand how to connect through VPN don't really know that something like Tor exist. The ones who're technically good and who have explored most areas of the internet are the ones who know what tor is and how to use it.
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I don't see much logic in the fact that they want to collect data on users by preventing them from viewing content without logging in using a VPN, and at the same time they have an onion version so you can view content regardless of whether you are logged in or not using Tor...
I think we have already discussed that most VPNs may not be the best choice for privacy because they are mostly owned by some companies that are again connected to spy agencies.
My own speculation is that they might also be trying to block AI agents from accessing and scraping data for their LLMs. I remember Elon Musk disabling unlogged access to Twitter/X when he declared war on the unpaid scraping. Of course he would be fine with it for a price. :D
Twitter is limiting the number of posts users can read
https://www.ghacks.net/2023/07/02/twitter-is-limiting-the-number-of-posts-users-can-read/
The initial numbers were 6000 daily reads for verified accounts, 600 reads for unverified accounts and 300 for new unverified accounts. Musk called these measures temporary to address "extreme levels of data scraping & system manipulation".
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I also think this is related to data scraping bots. Companies don't want others to profit from their data, so they want to make sure they limit access. I'm not sure if blocking people is really effective, considering I still see so many bots on Reddit or other social media. That being said, many reasons can be true. At the end of the day, if I can't access their website with VPN, I'll just ditch them. I can still access them using a ProtonVPN IP; don't know if the days are numbered or not.
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So, what do you think is the most logical reason for blocking visitors from browsing the site using a VPN?
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We can guess what the real reason is, but @TryNinja pointed out a possible solution that definitely makes sense, because if others have done it, probably Reddit is just copying them.
@TryNinja, does that mean that such things cannot be done through the Tor browser (scraping data)? However, the fact that with some VPNs access (without logging) is not blocked means that they are targeting specific VPNs or they just haven't blacklisted them all?
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@TryNinja, does that mean that such things cannot be done through the Tor browser (scraping data)? However, the fact that with some VPNs access (without logging) is not blocked means that they are targeting specific VPNs or they just haven't blacklisted them all?
Could be exactly because the IP range for some VPNs aren't on the block list. Every IP has a reputation, so some are more "legit" in the eyes of some website and thus you won't see as much captchas popping up, 503 status errors, etc... while some will be a nightmare to navigate around. Same reason why Tor doesn't work very well with cloudflare websites.
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I can still use Reddit even with a VPN, but so have to log in first.
I don't think This is anything new, it's been like that since a few years ago I think.
Even if login doesn't work you can simply transfer cookies to the other device/browser.
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Those people who understand how to connect through VPN don't really know that something like Tor exist. The ones who're technically good and who have explored most areas of the internet are the ones who know what tor is and how to use it.
I am afraid I disagree.
I mostly use VPN when I am online, even though TOR is installed on my PC. But I do not always use TOR. Do you think everyone use TOR if they already know about TOR? I think a big number of people know about TOR, but they do not use it because they are not used to use it. Someone may have different reasons for not using it. My reason is, the speed is pretty slow for me. I use slow internet connection and surfing trough Tor makes it more slow.
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@TryNinja, does that mean that such things cannot be done through the Tor browser (scraping data)? However, the fact that with some VPNs access (without logging) is not blocked means that they are targeting specific VPNs or they just haven't blacklisted them all?
Could be exactly because the IP range for some VPNs aren't on the block list. Every IP has a reputation, so some are more "legit" in the eyes of some website and thus you won't see as much captchas popping up, 503 status errors, etc... while some will be a nightmare to navigate around. Same reason why Tor doesn't work very well with cloudflare websites.
I have one that shouldn't have a bad reputation, but I've noticed a few times that Reddit is blocked for me when I'm not logged in - although maybe it depends on the server I'm using at the time. It's true that I used to be able to watch YT with the same VPN, today they ask me to log in and prove I'm not a bot.
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Probably for security reasons due to the use of bots, flags of IP from its past users. If collecting data based on IP for ads is the main issue, ad blocker is the most recommended to use when accessing social media sites. I don't use VPN now so i can't tell but i'm always using ad blocker so...
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Could be exactly because the IP range for some VPNs aren't on the block list. Every IP has a reputation, so some are more "legit" in the eyes of some website and thus you won't see as much captchas popping up, 503 status errors, etc... while some will be a nightmare to navigate around. Same reason why Tor doesn't work very well with cloudflare websites.
Do you know what is the best way to reduce risks of having issues with cloudflare?
I know that using Tro browser with bitcointalk forum can be very problematic sometimes, and some people told me it was impossible for them to log in and use the forum.
Maybe situation with Altcoinstalk forum is a bit better, but still it's better to be ready and prepared.
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Unfortunately, our data is the source of profit for these companies, Reddit no longer has the “censorship”-free bias it had a few years ago, money always speaks louder.
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NYM vpn released update v2025.6 for all devices, so make sure you update on time.
They improved connectivity and user experience, they added always-on kill switch toggle, and everything should run faster.
Some bugs fixes are included both for wind0ws and linux OS, but BIG features are coming and I was waiting for that, Split Tunneling and improved censorship resistance are coming soon!
https://nym.com/blog/nymvpn-v2025.6