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Cryptocurrency Ecosystem => Bitcoin Forum => Topic started by: bitterguy28 on April 09, 2025, 07:09:25 AM
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the economic situation right now is really interesting with trump's tariffs and other countries fighting back, us stocks failing as well as regulatory uncertainty regarding eu and even trump's promise to adding bitcoin to the reserve the market seems to be unstable right now and generally not in a good place
we have been trying to figure out what could be bitcoin's next direction analyzing the events that are currently happening but now with bitcoin's price at $76k as time of writing, technical analysis indicate that if bitcoin fails to hold support of $73k we might see the bear cycle soon which we will see bitcoin drop lower than $60k
my question is how are you preparing for the expected bear cycle should it actually happen soon?
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the economic situation right now is really interesting with trump's tariffs and other countries fighting back, us stocks failing as well as regulatory uncertainty regarding eu and even trump's promise to adding bitcoin to the reserve the market seems to be unstable right now and generally not in a good place
United States added bitcoin already to its reserve but in a way that bitcoin was not favoured. Bitcoin and other crypto prices dropped immediately after the announcement.
my question is how are you preparing for the expected bear cycle should it actually happen soon?
This is not bear market. Bear market has always start without bad news. This is Trump's doing and just that the market is retracing which will still be followed by bear market like in 2 or 3 months to come.
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my question is how are you preparing for the expected bear cycle should it actually happen soon?
Just like what he have done before, be resilient, and still believed that Bitcoin will go up in the near future. We still have till the end of the year though to see what will be the market as we might be in the bullish state and that we should look for the long term or at least at the end of the year time frame.
And just continue to accumulate, DCA and then HODL. That's what has been the formula during the bear market.
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the economic situation right now is really interesting with trump's tariffs and other countries fighting back, us stocks failing as well as regulatory uncertainty regarding eu and even trump's promise to adding bitcoin to the reserve the market seems to be unstable right now and generally not in a good place
we have been trying to figure out what could be bitcoin's next direction analyzing the events that are currently happening but now with bitcoin's price at $76k as time of writing, technical analysis indicate that if bitcoin fails to hold support of $73k we might see the bear cycle soon which we will see bitcoin drop lower than $60k
my question is how are you preparing for the expected bear cycle should it actually happen soon?
I would definitely want to know how else we should prepare for the bear season if not to sit back and watch things as they unfold?
Oh well, I forgot that bear seasons are more catastrophic for Altcoin holders than it affects bitcoin holders..
Well, maybe Altcoiners will have to sell most part of their Altcoin holdings and put the money in stables as a way to cub the effect of any intending or expecting decline in the price of cryptocurrencies as a result of weak bitcoin price movement.
But then again, this is also a decision anyone interested will be very careful making because no one is sure yet which side the market is headed, we likely see the price of Bitcoin climbing again in the coming weeks or months.
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the economic situation right now is really interesting with trump's tariffs and other countries fighting back, us stocks failing as well as regulatory uncertainty regarding eu and even trump's promise to adding bitcoin to the reserve the market seems to be unstable right now and generally not in a good place
we have been trying to figure out what could be bitcoin's next direction analyzing the events that are currently happening but now with bitcoin's price at $76k as time of writing, technical analysis indicate that if bitcoin fails to hold support of $73k we might see the bear cycle soon which we will see bitcoin drop lower than $60k
my question is how are you preparing for the expected bear cycle should it actually happen soon?
Well, really, mate, these situations are very frustrating where all the markets are down, even if it's the stock market, the crypto market, or the physical market. Everything is currently in a big loss. All that because of Trump's tariff imposition on all countries, which disturbs global markets. So, in short, there are still chances that these bearish signs will convert into bullish signs only if Trump and other countries come to a positive end after negotiation.
Because I personally believe that the bull market has not yet ended, I am still hoping to see the market back only if it follows the above-mentioned condition. what do you think?
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I will just keep buying more and more BTC as the price drops more and more.
Simple as that.
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I will just keep buying more and more BTC as the price drops more and more.
Simple as that.
I agree we don't need to complicate things, just keep on accumulating that's it. -30% from it's last all time high, for sure this a bearish sign, so technically we might have been entering this early. However, the fundamental remains the same, for us and if we look at the previous years, we've seen this kind of major dip. But still the market recover from that and then we see a huge bull run. In May of 2021, we have witnessed a -35% in just one month alone and yet in October +39% and that's the biggest and we hit that all time high of $69k. So if history repeats itself then maybe around November to December we will see the final top price for this bull cycle.
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we have been trying to figure out what could be bitcoin's next direction ...
My opinion is that after ETFs, institutional investments and big whales out of the crypto world, the price of BTC and cryptos in general have become quite dependent on the whole economy, especially in the United States
So everything that happens in the US economy will probably be reflected in the price of BTC and it will be difficult for this relationship to take off
It's hard to know how long it will last, but as soon as the economy improves again, trade relations are re-established and liquidity returns, BTC will reach new highs, this is my guess
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we have been trying to figure out what could be bitcoin's next direction ...
My opinion is that after ETFs, institutional investments and big whales out of the crypto world, the price of BTC and cryptos in general have become quite dependent on the whole economy, especially in the United States
So everything that happens in the US economy will probably be reflected in the price of BTC and it will be difficult for this relationship to take off
It's hard to know how long it will last, but as soon as the economy improves again, trade relations are re-established and liquidity returns, BTC will reach new highs, this is my guess
Investors eventually will return with their pockets ready to fill up the gaps, on that, I can definitely agree.
Nothing would stop them once the fear is gone.
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Investors eventually will return with their pockets ready to fill up the gaps, on that, I can definitely agree.
Nothing would stop them once the fear is gone.
Yes, I believe that
All investors want to protect themselves right now, let the storm pass, and try to find good opportunities without being so exposed right now
As soon as the economy shows signs of improving, the conflicts end and everyone comes to an agreement, the money will start flowing again
I don't think this “bear” will last that long
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There are traders who already panicked and send all thier coins to stablecoins already. I'm not sure if I could do all these yet but I have allocated some on USDT just to be safe. I would be more interested in buy if the price finally dips to its lowest.
Some are already talking about how low it could go if this bear market continues. One that I'm afraid to see is 52k. I;d not be surprise but heck i would regret not sending them all to stablecoin when this happen.
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Why is everything being attributed to Trump effects on the market performance all because of the tarrif plan increase, I think it's more better we also look on beyond what can then from this time henceforth cause a barrier to the market performance on a bullish trend, because it seems to have settled below $80,000 and the people are not concerned on why this should remain here after the retracement it had the time it went back to $81,000 which we should now be more concerned about if we are now here to stay below $80,000 or planning to have another rising opportunity to pump it back above $80,000.
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I am not seeing this dip as the beginning of bear market but instead I think this is just a healthy pullback and I am seeing this to reach anywhere from $70k(ish) range and then go back up and this rise could potentially make new record of all time high.
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the economic situation right now is really interesting with trump's tariffs and other countries fighting back, us stocks failing as well as regulatory uncertainty regarding eu and even trump's promise to adding bitcoin to the reserve the market seems to be unstable right now and generally not in a good place
we have been trying to figure out what could be bitcoin's next direction analyzing the events that are currently happening but now with bitcoin's price at $76k as time of writing, technical analysis indicate that if bitcoin fails to hold support of $73k we might see the bear cycle soon which we will see bitcoin drop lower than $60k
my question is how are you preparing for the expected bear cycle should it actually happen soon?
Not preparing for it because I don’t have a strong conviction of it happening soon. A lot of things needs to be looked into before such predictions are made, although we don’t control the market neither will those prediction serve as the actual guide the market will follow to obey its directions.
Bitcoin falling below $73K is still not enough for me to say we are going to see a bear cycle, why not $50K and below? That serves more reasonable and understandable. At that price, we have seen the market fell more than 50% from its current ATH, and not just 30% as $73K will give us.
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the economic situation right now is really interesting with trump's tariffs and other countries fighting back, us stocks failing as well as regulatory uncertainty regarding eu and even trump's promise to adding bitcoin to the reserve the market seems to be unstable right now and generally not in a good place
we have been trying to figure out what could be bitcoin's next direction analyzing the events that are currently happening but now with bitcoin's price at $76k as time of writing, technical analysis indicate that if bitcoin fails to hold support of $73k we might see the bear cycle soon which we will see bitcoin drop lower than $60k
my question is how are you preparing for the expected bear cycle should it actually happen soon?
Not preparing for it because I don’t have a strong conviction of it happening soon. A lot of things needs to be looked into before such predictions are made, although we don’t control the market neither will those prediction serve as the actual guide the market will follow to obey its directions.
Bitcoin falling below $73K is still not enough for me to say we are going to see a bear cycle, why not $50K and below? That serves more reasonable and understandable. At that price, we have seen the market fell more than 50% from its current ATH, and not just 30% as $73K will give us.
Just like that, Bitcoin surges to $83k as the time that I write this post. So yeah, we are not yet in the bear market, this is just another correction that we are seeing and there are still hope that a bull run will eventually happen.
So for sure, seeing the price right now is a sign of relief for us, that the price is not going down so hard after all and that investors are also resilient and waiting for just one news that will push the market upwards again for this week.
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I am not seeing this dip as the beginning of bear market but instead I think this is just a healthy pullback and I am seeing this to reach anywhere from $70k(ish) range and then go back up and this rise could potentially make new record of all time high.
Agreed.
Trump also said there would be a pause regarding the tariffs, so we are already seeing the market, broader and crypto alike, reacting to it.
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Initially I was saying that bitcoin could dropped -50 percent of its original price from $109k, that is to say if we divides that price into two parts we are having around $54,500 before it would bounce again. Currently the market has already experienced $75k and there could be any possibility of still dumping more, but most times traders wouldn't allow it to dump that much and greed level could hold and sustain it within the price of $69k.
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Initially I was saying that bitcoin could dropped -50 percent of its original price from $109k, that is to say if we divides that price into two parts we are having around $54,500 before it would bounce again. Currently the market has already experienced $75k and there could be any possibility of still dumping more, but most times traders wouldn't allow it to dump that much and greed level could hold and sustain it within the price of $69k.
Imagine saying that the tariff war continues and seeing the Stock market dipping even more.. Than 50k would be possible, otherwise, we would have some resistances to break here and there to stabilize the situation.
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Initially I was saying that bitcoin could dropped -50 percent of its original price from $109k, that is to say if we divides that price into two parts we are having around $54,500 before it would bounce again. Currently the market has already experienced $75k and there could be any possibility of still dumping more, but most times traders wouldn't allow it to dump that much and greed level could hold and sustain it within the price of $69k.
we are now seeing bitcoin bounce back though not as massively but still the price is a lot comfortable and not anxiety inducing as we have seen in the past but it got me to thinking how bitcoin can't seem to get past around $85k-$86k maybe this is a sign of the bear cycle really because if these tariffs happened a few months earlier and the pause was announced i am thinking that it would have been possible for bitcoin to reach $100k with such good news
what do you think?
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Initially I was saying that bitcoin could dropped -50 percent of its original price from $109k, that is to say if we divides that price into two parts we are having around $54,500 before it would bounce again. Currently the market has already experienced $75k and there could be any possibility of still dumping more, but most times traders wouldn't allow it to dump that much and greed level could hold and sustain it within the price of $69k.
I don't think so. It will dump further now for at least three months because, according to yesterday's news headline, Trump has stopped tariffs on almost all countries for 90 days, and after that news, almost 8 trillion dollars were added back to the stock market, and we also saw Bitcoin above $80k last night.
Well, I feel that Trump is playing with all the markets, even it is the stock market, crypto market, or physical market. Everything is disturbed globally. Well, I am seeing things back to their old position, and after these three months, I am not sure what will happen.
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Bears or bulls, my preparation never changes. I continue to accumulate for as much as I can. I know that the next seasons are going to be crazier than this bull run. And that is why as long as I have some extra money, I am investing it back to the market. I do not want to be left behind if ever this market becomes better than this current cycle that we are having. That is how I am preparating regardless of the market cycle that we are having.
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Initially I was saying that bitcoin could dropped -50 percent of its original price from $109k, that is to say if we divides that price into two parts we are having around $54,500 before it would bounce again. Currently the market has already experienced $75k and there could be any possibility of still dumping more, but most times traders wouldn't allow it to dump that much and greed level could hold and sustain it within the price of $69k.
we are now seeing bitcoin bounce back though not as massively but still the price is a lot comfortable and not anxiety inducing as we have seen in the past but it got me to thinking how bitcoin can't seem to get past around $85k-$86k maybe this is a sign of the bear cycle really because if these tariffs happened a few months earlier and the pause was announced i am thinking that it would have been possible for bitcoin to reach $100k with such good news
what do you think?
I still have confidence that the price of bitcoin will reach $100K in the next few months.
The current price of bitcoin is $81K, it will likely rise to more than $85K next week, we are waiting for good news so that the price of bitcoin will immediately soar.
I am still waiting and holding my bitcoin because my selling target has not been achieved.
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Initially I was saying that bitcoin could dropped -50 percent of its original price from $109k, that is to say if we divides that price into two parts we are having around $54,500 before it would bounce again. Currently the market has already experienced $75k and there could be any possibility of still dumping more, but most times traders wouldn't allow it to dump that much and greed level could hold and sustain it within the price of $69k.
If you are long-term holders, for sure they are not affected by what is happening in the market because they are actually just waiting. But for those who aimed for profit in the short-term, they are of course affected and we know that because we saw the collapse of the market all over the world in just a few minutes after the announcement regarding these tariffs.
That's why right now we are still far from a bear market at the moment because obviously we are still in a bullish momentum right now, especially since there was a pause in the tariff war that all countries around the world are facing.
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I am not seeing this dip as the beginning of bear market but instead I think this is just a healthy pullback and I am seeing this to reach anywhere from $70k(ish) range and then go back up and this rise could potentially make new record of all time high.
This is just denial.
There is nothing healthy about a 35% pullback no matter how you twist it, and the sudden pump after the postponement of the tariffs shows where the culprit was, not some retracement, correction, or pullback anything, it was the fear of an economic slowdown and recession.
And Bitcoin going down on such news it's pretty normal, in a recession there is little money to spend, this is why we had the drop on covid, this is why we had the drop on the 2022 war, and this is why we grew only when the money printing started.
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Initially I was saying that bitcoin could dropped -50 percent of its original price from $109k, that is to say if we divides that price into two parts we are having around $54,500 before it would bounce again. Currently the market has already experienced $75k and there could be any possibility of still dumping more, but most times traders wouldn't allow it to dump that much and greed level could hold and sustain it within the price of $69k.
If you are long-term holders, for sure they are not affected by what is happening in the market because they are actually just waiting. But for those who aimed for profit in the short-term, they are of course affected and we know that because we saw the collapse of the market all over the world in just a few minutes after the announcement regarding these tariffs.
That's why right now we are still far from a bear market at the moment because obviously we are still in a bullish momentum right now, especially since there was a pause in the tariff war that all countries around the world are facing.
I’m sure long term holders are sitting back to watch everything going on with the governmen. They are patiently waiting for the next pump. Personally, I don’t think Bitcoin will rise beyond $100k soon because the bear market seem to be soon.
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Initially I was saying that bitcoin could dropped -50 percent of its original price from $109k, that is to say if we divides that price into two parts we are having around $54,500 before it would bounce again. Currently the market has already experienced $75k and there could be any possibility of still dumping more, but most times traders wouldn't allow it to dump that much and greed level could hold and sustain it within the price of $69k.
If you are long-term holders, for sure they are not affected by what is happening in the market because they are actually just waiting. But for those who aimed for profit in the short-term, they are of course affected and we know that because we saw the collapse of the market all over the world in just a few minutes after the announcement regarding these tariffs.
That's why right now we are still far from a bear market at the moment because obviously we are still in a bullish momentum right now, especially since there was a pause in the tariff war that all countries around the world are facing.
Investors are commonly found to be more capable of dealing with the long-term fluctuations in the markets due to the fact that their perspective about investments is longer range and therefore they have more time to wait for things to turn in their favor. On the other hand, the short-term oriented speculators are more sensitive to holding high risk gains or losses on their stock investments. This is especially so given that policy announcements or events happening round the global arena could cause dramatic swings within a short span of time hence affecting the price of either stock or Cryptocurrencies within minutes. Thus, the market seems to be in a bullish state, but short-term targeted users should be more careful because the situation can change very quickly due to the existing global volatility.
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I am not seeing this dip as the beginning of bear market but instead I think this is just a healthy pullback and I am seeing this to reach anywhere from $70k(ish) range and then go back up and this rise could potentially make new record of all time high.
This is just denial.
There is nothing healthy about a 35% pullback no matter how you twist it, and the sudden pump after the postponement of the tariffs shows where the culprit was, not some retracement, correction, or pullback anything, it was the fear of an economic slowdown and recession.
And Bitcoin going down on such news it's pretty normal, in a recession there is little money to spend, this is why we had the drop on covid, this is why we had the drop on the 2022 war, and this is why we grew only when the money printing started.
Bitcoin price drop due to geopolitical conditions or global economy is natural. We hear about tariff wars that cause bitcoin price to decline. then bitcoin price rose after tariffs were postponed but currently bitcoin price still seems to struggle because it has fallen back below $80K.
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my question is how are you preparing for the expected bear cycle should it actually happen soon?
Honestly, I would be a little shocked if this is indeed a sign of bearish coming. because I am still holding my assets and actually I hope there will be a new ATH from Bitcoin and also the real altcoin season. And I hope that this is just a market drop as usual which will later rise again.
But if it is indeed bearish and it happens so fast, well what else can I do, some of it I might still hold for the long term. the point is maybe by securing some assets to take profits and still holding for some that are not yet profitable. and again, trying to live the bearish era by preparing more free funds to reinvest later.
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I am not seeing this dip as the beginning of bear market but instead I think this is just a healthy pullback and I am seeing this to reach anywhere from $70k(ish) range and then go back up and this rise could potentially make new record of all time high.
Agreed.
Trump also said there would be a pause regarding the tariffs, so we are already seeing the market, broader and crypto alike, reacting to it.
This pause is temporary so the bullishness is also temporary although the pause is for 9 days alone and this pause is not for China, USA will impose tariffs on China regardless of this pause. But market pumped due to this move which shows once this will over market can make new all time high.
We should not lose hopes and this can be a healthy correction we all were waiting, I remember reading posts where people predicted the market can dump to $70 when it was at $92k and they said, it will pump again to make new ATH.
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Bitcoin has good fundamentals, and will either die and become forgotten or will keep appreciating in value in the long term. Given the level of legitimisation Bitcoin has received recently, the latter option seems much more likely.
But timing/strategy matters in terms of investing in it. The 4-year cycles could be a blessing, but could also be a curse. Those who bought in at the very peak of the previous cycle didn't get good value for money. Even if they managed to sell at the peak of the current bull run, that's still a return of like 15% a year, which is not that impressive given it was in the period of high inflation and other traditional markets could yield a better return.
Personally, I would prefer Bitcoin to decouple from stock markets and start acting more like gold, even if that would mean no more cycles and no more skyrocketing.
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Initially I was saying that bitcoin could dropped -50 percent of its original price from $109k, that is to say if we divides that price into two parts we are having around $54,500 before it would bounce again. Currently the market has already experienced $75k and there could be any possibility of still dumping more, but most times traders wouldn't allow it to dump that much and greed level could hold and sustain it within the price of $69k.
If you are long-term holders, for sure they are not affected by what is happening in the market because they are actually just waiting. But for those who aimed for profit in the short-term, they are of course affected and we know that because we saw the collapse of the market all over the world in just a few minutes after the announcement regarding these tariffs.
That's why right now we are still far from a bear market at the moment because obviously we are still in a bullish momentum right now, especially since there was a pause in the tariff war that all countries around the world are facing.
If you are a long term trader or holder then this market is for them but those who that desperate to make profits could just end up losing entirely because of lack of patient.
As we know short term are most for altcoin instead of Bitcoin though it depends on individuals likenesses.
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Bitcoin has good fundamentals, and will either die and become forgotten or will keep appreciating in value in the long term. Given the level of legitimisation Bitcoin has received recently, the latter option seems much more likely.
But timing/strategy matters in terms of investing in it. The 4-year cycles could be a blessing, but could also be a curse. Those who bought in at the very peak of the previous cycle didn't get good value for money. Even if they managed to sell at the peak of the current bull run, that's still a return of like 15% a year, which is not that impressive given it was in the period of high inflation and other traditional markets could yield a better return.
Fundamentals will always be there, no matter what:
a. halving event
b. cap at 21 million
c. network health and uptime.
The thing though right now is that we are not just looking at those fundamentals it's more of what and how the price are being affected by the geo-politics that we are seeing, like the war between Russia vs Ukraine or the volatility of the Middle East or proxy wars between Iran and US.
And to add to that, we have the tariff wars that Trump is imposing to every countries that really impacted everything from crypto to stock markets.
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my question is how are you preparing for the expected bear cycle should it actually happen soon?
No, the bear cycle is not going to happen anytime soon. There's big game in keep market down and the ones who understand such games are the ones who will make profit from this market. it's the best time for the ones who follow DCA strategy. The market will recover once again and who knows we might see Bitcoin at $100k or above it before December 2025.
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my question is how are you preparing for the expected bear cycle should it actually happen soon?
No, the bear cycle is not going to happen anytime soon. There's big game in keep market down and the ones who understand such games are the ones who will make profit from this market. it's the best time for the ones who follow DCA strategy. The market will recover once again and who knows we might see Bitcoin at $100k or above it before December 2025.
I too think in that direction - we need to accumulate and await the opportunity to see the new heights on the chart through 2025.
It will bring results, and good ones, down the line.
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my question is how are you preparing for the expected bear cycle should it actually happen soon?
Since I have sold most of my BTC assets during the January 2025 bullish, if there is a bear market coming in Q2 this year, then I will start to make purchases gradually and routinely... yes, I am more inclined to the long-term market which is more profitable because of the BTC halving cycle... at least we can have a pretty good vision for the bearish and bullish periods, although some say that this cycle has accelerated... yes at least we have to prepare early too...
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we have been trying to figure out what could be bitcoin's next direction ...
My opinion is that after ETFs, institutional investments and big whales out of the crypto world, the price of BTC and cryptos in general have become quite dependent on the whole economy, especially in the United States
So everything that happens in the US economy will probably be reflected in the price of BTC and it will be difficult for this relationship to take off
It's hard to know how long it will last, but as soon as the economy improves again, trade relations are re-established and liquidity returns, BTC will reach new highs, this is my guess
Actually, i believe that your opinion is also very appropriate in this moment. So i am also agree with your prefer comment. If we follow in cryptocurrency market, we can see that bitcoin price is remain $813 97 now which is slightly down.
But before three days ago, we can see that bitcoin price reach under $76k. So i believe that gradually bitcoin price will recover this situation and i think that within a shot time bitcoin price reach best position in cryptocurrency market.
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my question is how are you preparing for the expected bear cycle should it actually happen soon?
No, the bear cycle is not going to happen anytime soon. There's big game in keep market down and the ones who understand such games are the ones who will make profit from this market. it's the best time for the ones who follow DCA strategy. The market will recover once again and who knows we might see Bitcoin at $100k or above it before December 2025.
Bitcoin bearish cycle may have ended as global stock markets are recovering. The bearish situation that followed Donald Trump tariff announcement has been suspended for next three months. I agree with you that is the best time to accumulate Bitcoin by DCA strategy. Although regardless of the price this method reduces the UP in your portfolio and increases your profits. I think that by the end of this year the price of Bitcoin may be $150k or more.
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I personally think that the current Bitcoin market situation is just based on fear about Donald Trump tariff war with many countries especially China, the economic challenges will gradually come to an end, and there is yet any bear flag informations in my opinion.
I must say that the bear run is part of the market circle, but i still think that we may experience the altcoins season before the bear run, i may be wrong, though i see these bear run on the economic perspective, not as many people has concluded.
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And just like that, we have seen bullish signs already. The market has bounce back to somewhat to $95,000. That is the biggest barrier for now and then we will go for that $100,000.
I haven't check the news yet as for the result, but still good to see that in this week alone, a massive increased from the sideways pattern of $80,000-$85,000 to $95,000.
So it's not that we are in the bearish signs, it's that the market just settled down a bit and now making a break out run.