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Re: bearish signs
« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2025, 08:13:29 AM »
I am not seeing this dip as the beginning of bear market but instead I think this is just a healthy pullback and I am seeing this to reach anywhere from $70k(ish) range and then go back up and this rise could potentially make new record of all time high.

Agreed.

Trump also said there would be a pause regarding the tariffs, so we are already seeing the market, broader and crypto alike, reacting to it.
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Re: bearish signs
« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2025, 08:13:29 AM »

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Re: bearish signs
« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2025, 08:54:45 AM »
Initially I was saying that bitcoin could dropped -50 percent of its original price from $109k, that is to say if we divides that price into two parts we are having around $54,500 before it would bounce again. Currently the market has already experienced $75k and there could be any possibility of still dumping more, but most times traders wouldn't allow it to dump that much and greed level could hold and sustain it within the price of $69k.

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Re: bearish signs
« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2025, 10:34:17 AM »
Initially I was saying that bitcoin could dropped -50 percent of its original price from $109k, that is to say if we divides that price into two parts we are having around $54,500 before it would bounce again. Currently the market has already experienced $75k and there could be any possibility of still dumping more, but most times traders wouldn't allow it to dump that much and greed level could hold and sustain it within the price of $69k.

Imagine saying that the tariff war continues and seeing the Stock market dipping even more.. Than 50k would be possible, otherwise, we would have some resistances to break here and there to stabilize the situation.

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Re: bearish signs
« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2025, 12:56:11 PM »
Initially I was saying that bitcoin could dropped -50 percent of its original price from $109k, that is to say if we divides that price into two parts we are having around $54,500 before it would bounce again. Currently the market has already experienced $75k and there could be any possibility of still dumping more, but most times traders wouldn't allow it to dump that much and greed level could hold and sustain it within the price of $69k.
we are now seeing bitcoin bounce back though not as massively but still the price is a lot comfortable and not anxiety inducing as we have seen in the past but it got me to thinking how bitcoin can't seem to get past around $85k-$86k maybe this is a sign of the bear cycle really because if these tariffs happened a few months earlier and the pause was announced i am thinking that it would have been possible for bitcoin to reach $100k with such good news

what do you think?

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Re: bearish signs
« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2025, 02:43:20 PM »
Initially I was saying that bitcoin could dropped -50 percent of its original price from $109k, that is to say if we divides that price into two parts we are having around $54,500 before it would bounce again. Currently the market has already experienced $75k and there could be any possibility of still dumping more, but most times traders wouldn't allow it to dump that much and greed level could hold and sustain it within the price of $69k.

I don't think so. It will dump further now for at least three months because, according to yesterday's news headline, Trump has stopped tariffs on almost all countries for 90 days, and after that news, almost 8 trillion dollars were added back to the stock market, and we also saw Bitcoin above $80k last night.

Well, I feel that Trump is playing with all the markets, even it is the stock market, crypto market, or physical market. Everything is disturbed globally. Well, I am seeing things back to their old position, and after these three months, I am not sure what will happen.
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Re: bearish signs
« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2025, 02:54:37 PM »
Bears or bulls, my preparation never changes. I continue to accumulate for as much as I can. I know that the next seasons are going to be crazier than this bull run. And that is why as long as I have some extra money, I am investing it back to the market. I do not want to be left behind if ever this market becomes better than this current cycle that we are having. That is how I am preparating regardless of the market cycle that we are having.

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Re: bearish signs
« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2025, 03:39:19 PM »
Initially I was saying that bitcoin could dropped -50 percent of its original price from $109k, that is to say if we divides that price into two parts we are having around $54,500 before it would bounce again. Currently the market has already experienced $75k and there could be any possibility of still dumping more, but most times traders wouldn't allow it to dump that much and greed level could hold and sustain it within the price of $69k.
we are now seeing bitcoin bounce back though not as massively but still the price is a lot comfortable and not anxiety inducing as we have seen in the past but it got me to thinking how bitcoin can't seem to get past around $85k-$86k maybe this is a sign of the bear cycle really because if these tariffs happened a few months earlier and the pause was announced i am thinking that it would have been possible for bitcoin to reach $100k with such good news

what do you think?
I still have confidence that the price of bitcoin will reach $100K in the next few months.
The current price of bitcoin is $81K, it will likely rise to more than $85K next week, we are waiting for good news so that the price of bitcoin will immediately soar.
I am still waiting and holding my bitcoin because my selling target has not been achieved.
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Re: bearish signs
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Re: bearish signs
« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2025, 03:45:36 PM »
Initially I was saying that bitcoin could dropped -50 percent of its original price from $109k, that is to say if we divides that price into two parts we are having around $54,500 before it would bounce again. Currently the market has already experienced $75k and there could be any possibility of still dumping more, but most times traders wouldn't allow it to dump that much and greed level could hold and sustain it within the price of $69k.

If you are long-term holders, for sure they are not affected by what is happening in the market because they are actually just waiting. But for those who aimed for profit in the short-term, they are of course affected and we know that because we saw the collapse of the market all over the world in just a few minutes after the announcement regarding these tariffs.

That's why right now we are still far from a bear market at the moment because obviously we are still in a bullish momentum right now, especially since there was a pause in the tariff war that all countries around the world are facing.
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Re: bearish signs
« Reply #23 on: April 10, 2025, 03:46:39 PM »
I am not seeing this dip as the beginning of bear market but instead I think this is just a healthy pullback and I am seeing this to reach anywhere from $70k(ish) range and then go back up and this rise could potentially make new record of all time high.

This is just denial.
There is nothing healthy about a 35% pullback no matter how you twist it, and the sudden pump after the postponement of the tariffs shows where the culprit was, not some retracement, correction, or pullback anything, it was the fear of an economic slowdown and recession.
And Bitcoin going down on such news it's pretty normal, in a recession there is little money to spend, this is why we had the drop on covid, this is why we had the drop on the 2022 war, and this is why we grew only when the money printing started.

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Re: bearish signs
« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2025, 04:22:42 PM »
Initially I was saying that bitcoin could dropped -50 percent of its original price from $109k, that is to say if we divides that price into two parts we are having around $54,500 before it would bounce again. Currently the market has already experienced $75k and there could be any possibility of still dumping more, but most times traders wouldn't allow it to dump that much and greed level could hold and sustain it within the price of $69k.

If you are long-term holders, for sure they are not affected by what is happening in the market because they are actually just waiting. But for those who aimed for profit in the short-term, they are of course affected and we know that because we saw the collapse of the market all over the world in just a few minutes after the announcement regarding these tariffs.

That's why right now we are still far from a bear market at the moment because obviously we are still in a bullish momentum right now, especially since there was a pause in the tariff war that all countries around the world are facing.
I’m sure long term holders are sitting back to watch everything going on with the governmen. They are patiently waiting for the next pump. Personally, I don’t think Bitcoin will rise beyond $100k soon because the bear market seem to be soon.

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Re: bearish signs
« Reply #25 on: April 10, 2025, 09:49:45 PM »
Initially I was saying that bitcoin could dropped -50 percent of its original price from $109k, that is to say if we divides that price into two parts we are having around $54,500 before it would bounce again. Currently the market has already experienced $75k and there could be any possibility of still dumping more, but most times traders wouldn't allow it to dump that much and greed level could hold and sustain it within the price of $69k.

If you are long-term holders, for sure they are not affected by what is happening in the market because they are actually just waiting. But for those who aimed for profit in the short-term, they are of course affected and we know that because we saw the collapse of the market all over the world in just a few minutes after the announcement regarding these tariffs.

That's why right now we are still far from a bear market at the moment because obviously we are still in a bullish momentum right now, especially since there was a pause in the tariff war that all countries around the world are facing.
Investors are commonly found to be more capable of dealing with the long-term fluctuations in the markets due to the fact that their perspective about investments is longer range and therefore they have more time to wait for things to turn in their favor. On the other hand, the short-term oriented speculators are more sensitive to holding high risk gains or losses on their stock investments. This is especially so given that policy announcements or events happening round the global arena could cause dramatic swings within a short span of time hence affecting the price of either stock or Cryptocurrencies within minutes. Thus, the market seems to be in a bullish state, but short-term targeted users should be more careful because the situation can change very quickly due to the existing global volatility.

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Re: bearish signs
« Reply #26 on: April 10, 2025, 10:25:29 PM »
I am not seeing this dip as the beginning of bear market but instead I think this is just a healthy pullback and I am seeing this to reach anywhere from $70k(ish) range and then go back up and this rise could potentially make new record of all time high.

This is just denial.
There is nothing healthy about a 35% pullback no matter how you twist it, and the sudden pump after the postponement of the tariffs shows where the culprit was, not some retracement, correction, or pullback anything, it was the fear of an economic slowdown and recession.
And Bitcoin going down on such news it's pretty normal, in a recession there is little money to spend, this is why we had the drop on covid, this is why we had the drop on the 2022 war, and this is why we grew only when the money printing started.
Bitcoin price drop due to geopolitical conditions or global economy is natural. We hear about tariff wars that cause bitcoin price to decline. then bitcoin price rose after tariffs were postponed but currently bitcoin price still seems to struggle because it has fallen back below $80K.
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Re: bearish signs
« Reply #27 on: April 10, 2025, 10:55:27 PM »
my question is how are you preparing for the expected bear cycle should it actually happen soon?
Honestly, I would be a little shocked if this is indeed a sign of bearish coming. because I am still holding my assets and actually I hope there will be a new ATH from Bitcoin and also the real altcoin season. And I hope that this is just a market drop as usual which will later rise again.

But if it is indeed bearish and it happens so fast, well what else can I do, some of it I might still hold for the long term. the point is maybe by securing some assets to take profits and still holding for some that are not yet profitable. and again, trying to live the bearish era by preparing more free funds to reinvest later.

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Re: bearish signs
« Reply #28 on: April 10, 2025, 11:06:36 PM »
I am not seeing this dip as the beginning of bear market but instead I think this is just a healthy pullback and I am seeing this to reach anywhere from $70k(ish) range and then go back up and this rise could potentially make new record of all time high.

Agreed.

Trump also said there would be a pause regarding the tariffs, so we are already seeing the market, broader and crypto alike, reacting to it.
This pause is temporary so the bullishness is also temporary although the pause is for 9 days alone and this pause is not for China, USA will impose tariffs on China regardless of this pause. But market pumped due to this move which shows once this will over market can make new all time high.

We should not lose hopes and this can be a healthy correction we all were waiting, I remember reading posts where people predicted the market can dump to $70 when it was at $92k and they said, it will pump again to make new ATH.
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Re: bearish signs
« Reply #29 on: April 10, 2025, 11:15:23 PM »
Bitcoin has good fundamentals, and will either die and become forgotten or will keep appreciating in value in the long term. Given the level of legitimisation Bitcoin has received recently, the latter option seems much more likely.
But timing/strategy matters in terms of investing in it. The 4-year cycles could be a blessing, but could also be a curse. Those who bought in at the very peak of the previous cycle didn't get good value for money. Even if they managed to sell at the peak of the current bull run, that's still a return of like 15% a year, which is not that impressive given it was in the period of high inflation and other traditional markets could yield a better return.

Personally, I would prefer Bitcoin to decouple from stock markets and start acting more like gold, even if that would mean no more cycles and no more skyrocketing.

 

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