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Further Discussions => Blockchain Technology => Topic started by: Morrower on October 03, 2018, 03:41:53 PM
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Some time ago I was thinking if there will be a messenger which will contain some features that will deal with crypto.
And now I see that more and more messengers appear that are based on blockchain, have end-to-end encryption and have built-in crypto wallets!
Moreover, some of them even produce their own coins. In't it a dream? Now we can have secret communications and earn some extra coins - all at one place.
What are your thoughts - do you use any, is it worth trying? And what else features will you add to it?
I think that it's a big step forward by the way.
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I use Telegram.
There are plenty of good channels to earn coins.
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I use Telegram.
There are plenty of good channels to earn coins.
But Telegram is not safe at all! How can you do something connected to crypto using Telegram?
You can lose your data there!
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I know such a messenger. It's called E-chat. It is based on the blockchain and has its own wallet. I think this is a great discovery. I tried to use it. But I couldn't use it. My colleagues don't know it and don't want to use the new messenger. They are happy with the old messenger and don't want to change anything. They are afraid of change and don't want to spend time learning a new service. I couldn't change their mind.
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I don't like services that have many functions. Developers chase after quantity and forget about quality. A company may produce good refrigerators, but their vacuum cleaners will be of poor quality. It's my opinion. I think the combination of the messenger and the wallet will increase the field for the activity of scammers.
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I know such a messenger. It's called E-chat. It is based on the blockchain and has its own wallet. I think this is a great discovery. I tried to use it. But I couldn't use it. My colleagues don't know it and don't want to use the new messenger. They are happy with the old messenger and don't want to change anything. They are afraid of change and don't want to spend time learning a new service. I couldn't change their mind.
Of course people get used to something they know, but I think that if you want privacy, especially when you deal with crypto - it's a good app!
I'm already tired of all this leaking of information - that's why I want to try something new and encrypted.
And what messenger do you use now?
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I like both Adamant and Stealthy messengers.
No access to address book and location required.
They are really trustworthy, but not sure they produce coins.
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I like both Adamant and Stealthy messengers.
No access to address book and location required.
They are really trustworthy, but not sure they produce coins.
Stealthy has a content monetization which is also very interesting thing. You can do posts and earn money if people will like it.
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I use Telegram.
There are plenty of good channels to earn coins.
It's unreasonable to use Telegram for only free coins earning.
I am sure this messenger lost it's secure related trust.
There are so much information from recent news about Telegram data leaking.
Would you still use it for crypto wallets and transactions?
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I use Telegram.
There are plenty of good channels to earn coins.
It's unreasonable to use Telegram for only free coins earning.
I am sure this messenger lost it's secure related trust.
There are so much information from recent news about Telegram data leaking.
Would you still use it for crypto wallets and transactions?
Are you sure that it's possible to use it as a crypto wallet??? Telegram has no such function. I know only Crypviser that has a built-in wallet and it's much more secured than Telegram is :)
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I use Telegram.
There are plenty of good channels to earn coins.
It's unreasonable to use Telegram for only free coins earning.
I am sure this messenger lost it's secure related trust.
There are so much information from recent news about Telegram data leaking.
Would you still use it for crypto wallets and transactions?
Are you sure that it's possible to use it as a crypto wallet??? Telegram has no such function. I know only Crypviser that has a built-in wallet and it's much more secured than Telegram is :)
Tired of the fact that everyone constantly offends Telegrams. Telegram is generally the best that now is. Can you give any arguments against?
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I use Telegram.
There are plenty of good channels to earn coins.
It's unreasonable to use Telegram for only free coins earning.
I am sure this messenger lost it's secure related trust.
There are so much information from recent news about Telegram data leaking.
Would you still use it for crypto wallets and transactions?
Are you sure that it's possible to use it as a crypto wallet??? Telegram has no such function. I know only Crypviser that has a built-in wallet and it's much more secured than Telegram is :)
So are we talking about blockchain based messengers which have end-to-end encryption and have built-in crypto wallets, aren't we?
Personally, can't name list of messengers that have this function.
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I use Telegram.
There are plenty of good channels to earn coins.
It's unreasonable to use Telegram for only free coins earning.
I am sure this messenger lost it's secure related trust.
There are so much information from recent news about Telegram data leaking.
Would you still use it for crypto wallets and transactions?
Are you sure that it's possible to use it as a crypto wallet??? Telegram has no such function. I know only Crypviser that has a built-in wallet and it's much more secured than Telegram is :)
Tired of the fact that everyone constantly offends Telegrams. Telegram is generally the best that now is. Can you give any arguments against?
I can :)
1. It needs your phone number for registration - what is already not private.
2. It doesn't use end-to-end encryption. They tell they use it for secret chats only which are not available to everyone - only to iOS users.
3. IP address is exposed to operator
4. It has an access to user location
5. It stores all data on the server
Should I continue?
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I don't like services that have many functions. Developers chase after quantity and forget about quality. A company may produce good refrigerators, but their vacuum cleaners will be of poor quality. It's my opinion. I think the combination of the messenger and the wallet will increase the field for the activity of scammers.
You can find scammers everywhere - not only in messengers. You just have to choose the right trader before you send money to him.
And why do you think that all-at-one messengers are bad? Those that have built-in wallets made a good encryption.
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I use Telegram.
There are plenty of good channels to earn coins.
It's unreasonable to use Telegram for only free coins earning.
I am sure this messenger lost it's secure related trust.
There are so much information from recent news about Telegram data leaking.
Would you still use it for crypto wallets and transactions?
Are you sure that it's possible to use it as a crypto wallet??? Telegram has no such function. I know only Crypviser that has a built-in wallet and it's much more secured than Telegram is :)
Tired of the fact that everyone constantly offends Telegrams. Telegram is generally the best that now is. Can you give any arguments against?
I can :)
1. It needs your phone number for registration - what is already not private.
2. It doesn't use end-to-end encryption. They tell they use it for secret chats only which are not available to everyone - only to iOS users.
3. IP address is exposed to operator
4. It has an access to user location
5. It stores all data on the server
Should I continue?
Why are you so worried about the phone number and other parameters? Do you want to commit illegal actions? I only do legal affairs and I'm not afraid to provide my number for registration.
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I use Telegram.
There are plenty of good channels to earn coins.
It's unreasonable to use Telegram for only free coins earning.
I am sure this messenger lost it's secure related trust.
There are so much information from recent news about Telegram data leaking.
Would you still use it for crypto wallets and transactions?
Are you sure that it's possible to use it as a crypto wallet??? Telegram has no such function. I know only Crypviser that has a built-in wallet and it's much more secured than Telegram is :)
Tired of the fact that everyone constantly offends Telegrams. Telegram is generally the best that now is. Can you give any arguments against?
I can :)
1. It needs your phone number for registration - what is already not private.
2. It doesn't use end-to-end encryption. They tell they use it for secret chats only which are not available to everyone - only to iOS users.
3. IP address is exposed to operator
4. It has an access to user location
5. It stores all data on the server
Should I continue?
Why are you so worried about the phone number and other parameters? Do you want to commit illegal actions? I only do legal affairs and I'm not afraid to provide my number for registration.
It's not about illegal things - it's all about privacy. My number may be taken from there and one day I'll start to receive lots of spammy messages for instance. It's not very pleasant moment.
Moreover my account may be stolen if someone will get my number. So I'd better choose something that will not collect all the information about me.
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After all there are many other ways for safe transactions.
Why to use only messengers?
They are not what we need if talk about crypto wallets.
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I know such a messenger. It's called E-chat. It is based on the blockchain and has its own wallet. I think this is a great discovery. I tried to use it. But I couldn't use it. My colleagues don't know it and don't want to use the new messenger. They are happy with the old messenger and don't want to change anything. They are afraid of change and don't want to spend time learning a new service. I couldn't change their mind.
So then for especially lazy people there is Signal.
It's very user-friendly and no special efforts required to learn how to use it.
But still if your colleagues are good with the old one, then go ahead!
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After all there are many other ways for safe transactions.
Why to use only messengers?
They are not what we need if talk about crypto wallets.
Of course there are, but I wanted to see people's opinion exactly about blockchain messengers that allow crypto and wallets and some else features.
Isn't it comfortably to have everything in one app?
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After all there are many other ways for safe transactions.
Why to use only messengers?
They are not what we need if talk about crypto wallets.
Of course there are, but I wanted to see people's opinion exactly about blockchain messengers that allow crypto and wallets and some else features.
Isn't it comfortably to have everything in one app?
I understand.
But really, I can hardly believe that such messenger ever exist.
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After all there are many other ways for safe transactions.
Why to use only messengers?
They are not what we need if talk about crypto wallets.
Of course there are, but I wanted to see people's opinion exactly about blockchain messengers that allow crypto and wallets and some else features.
Isn't it comfortably to have everything in one app?
I understand.
But really, I can hardly believe that such messenger ever exist.
Crypviser and e-Chat already exist and you can try it. Who seeks will always find :)
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Tired of the fact that everyone constantly offends Telegrams. Telegram is generally the best that now is. Can you give any arguments against?
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I can :)
1. It needs your phone number for registration - what is already not private.
2. It doesn't use end-to-end encryption. They tell they use it for secret chats only which are not available to everyone - only to iOS users.
3. IP address is exposed to operator
4. It has an access to user location
5. It stores all data on the server
Should I continue?
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so, do all your really necessary correspondence in secret chats, what's the problem? I do not think that you are such an interesting person, that some people are watching you and your correspondence :-\
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I like the point that such messengers appear. I would also add an encrypted mail to it and it will be perfect!
Just imagine - you open the app and can send mails, chat with friends and do some trading things.
Awesome!
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Tired of the fact that everyone constantly offends Telegrams. Telegram is generally the best that now is. Can you give any arguments against?
I can :)
1. It needs your phone number for registration - what is already not private.
2. It doesn't use end-to-end encryption. They tell they use it for secret chats only which are not available to everyone - only to iOS users.
3. IP address is exposed to operator
4. It has an access to user location
5. It stores all data on the server
Should I continue?
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so, do all your really necessary correspondence in secret chats, what's the problem? I do not think that you are such an interesting person, that some people are watching you and your correspondence :-\
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I think it's not about correspondence only as some people do crypto transactions using messengers for example and they don't want to leak information dedicated to it for sure.
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Tired of the fact that everyone constantly offends Telegrams. Telegram is generally the best that now is. Can you give any arguments against?
I can :)
1. It needs your phone number for registration - what is already not private.
2. It doesn't use end-to-end encryption. They tell they use it for secret chats only which are not available to everyone - only to iOS users.
3. IP address is exposed to operator
4. It has an access to user location
5. It stores all data on the server
Should I continue?
so, do all your really necessary correspondence in secret chats, what's the problem? I do not think that you are such an interesting person, that some people are watching you and your correspondence :-\
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I think it's not about correspondence only as some people do crypto transactions using messengers for example and they don't want to leak information dedicated to it for sure.
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with the help of the Telegram, it is now possible to carry out various kinds of transactions absolutely calmly and without fear. he is really safe. In this messenger, no one will definitely steal your data.
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I don't like services that have many functions. Developers chase after quantity and forget about quality. A company may produce good refrigerators, but their vacuum cleaners will be of poor quality. It's my opinion. I think the combination of the messenger and the wallet will increase the field for the activity of scammers.
You can find scammers everywhere - not only in messengers. You just have to choose the right trader before you send money to him.
And why do you think that all-at-one messengers are bad? Those that have built-in wallets made a good encryption.
Cryptomessengers are too young for my attention. They aren't tested by a large number of people. I can't trust them as a blind man.
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After all there are many other ways for safe transactions.
Why to use only messengers?
They are not what we need if talk about crypto wallets.
Of course there are, but I wanted to see people's opinion exactly about blockchain messengers that allow crypto and wallets and some else features.
Isn't it comfortably to have everything in one app?
Why combine everything? Wallet is used for transactions, messenger is used for communication. I will not communicate anymore if I start receiving coins for messages. I don't want to earn on my comrades.
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I know such a messenger. It's called E-chat. It is based on the blockchain and has its own wallet. I think this is a great discovery. I tried to use it. But I couldn't use it. My colleagues don't know it and don't want to use the new messenger. They are happy with the old messenger and don't want to change anything. They are afraid of change and don't want to spend time learning a new service. I couldn't change their mind.
Of course people get used to something they know, but I think that if you want privacy, especially when you deal with crypto - it's a good app!
I'm already tired of all this leaking of information - that's why I want to try something new and encrypted.
And what messenger do you use now?
I use Skype and WhatsApp. Nobody is interested in anything new. Scares people new. I was very surprised. I fight and decided to leave everything.
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I use Telegram.
There are plenty of good channels to earn coins.
It's unreasonable to use Telegram for only free coins earning.
I am sure this messenger lost it's secure related trust.
There are so much information from recent news about Telegram data leaking.
Would you still use it for crypto wallets and transactions?
Are you sure that it's possible to use it as a crypto wallet??? Telegram has no such function. I know only Crypviser that has a built-in wallet and it's much more secured than Telegram is :)
Tired of the fact that everyone constantly offends Telegrams. Telegram is generally the best that now is. Can you give any arguments against?
I can :)
1. It needs your phone number for registration - what is already not private.
2. It doesn't use end-to-end encryption. They tell they use it for secret chats only which are not available to everyone - only to iOS users.
3. IP address is exposed to operator
4. It has an access to user location
5. It stores all data on the server
Should I continue?
Why are you so worried about the phone number and other parameters? Do you want to commit illegal actions? I only do legal affairs and I'm not afraid to provide my number for registration.
It's not about illegal things - it's all about privacy. My number may be taken from there and one day I'll start to receive lots of spammy messages for instance. It's not very pleasant moment.
Moreover my account may be stolen if someone will get my number. So I'd better choose something that will not collect all the information about me.
Did it happen to you? Can you tell more, please. I hope it can help convince my colleagues of the need to choose a new messenger.
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I don't like services that have many functions. Developers chase after quantity and forget about quality. A company may produce good refrigerators, but their vacuum cleaners will be of poor quality. It's my opinion. I think the combination of the messenger and the wallet will increase the field for the activity of scammers.
You can find scammers everywhere - not only in messengers. You just have to choose the right trader before you send money to him.
And why do you think that all-at-one messengers are bad? Those that have built-in wallets made a good encryption.
Cryptomessengers are too young for my attention. They aren't tested by a large number of people. I can't trust them as a blind man.
If all of us will behave like you do - no one will test anything ever! It' not so hard to download an app and check what is it.
If you won't like it you always have a right to delete it.
It's so simple, bro :)
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@Kinal,
When I used Viber for instance it was hacked as I started to receive tons of spammy messages, I was added to different group chats with people I don't even know and messages were sent from my account by themselves. Then I switched to Telegram which seemed to be more secured but I got tired of all the bug, connection problems and security questions.
That's why I think that blockchain messengers can be a good replacement for all that old stuff.
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@Kinal,
When I used Viber for instance it was hacked as I started to receive tons of spammy messages, I was added to different group chats with people I don't even know and messages were sent from my account by themselves. Then I switched to Telegram which seemed to be more secured but I got tired of all the bug, connection problems and security questions.
That's why I think that blockchain messengers can be a good replacement for all that old stuff.
Thanks for the info. Did you have a similar experience with Skype and WhatsApp?
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@Kinal,
When I used Viber for instance it was hacked as I started to receive tons of spammy messages, I was added to different group chats with people I don't even know and messages were sent from my account by themselves. Then I switched to Telegram which seemed to be more secured but I got tired of all the bug, connection problems and security questions.
That's why I think that blockchain messengers can be a good replacement for all that old stuff.
Thanks for the info. Did you have a similar experience with Skype and WhatsApp?
I used Skype long ago and already forgot about it. The only thing I remember is that my friend's accounts were hacked numerous times and they send some insecure links to all friend list.
WhatsApp I never tried, but I think it's time had passed also.
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@Kinal,
When I used Viber for instance it was hacked as I started to receive tons of spammy messages, I was added to different group chats with people I don't even know and messages were sent from my account by themselves. Then I switched to Telegram which seemed to be more secured but I got tired of all the bug, connection problems and security questions.
That's why I think that blockchain messengers can be a good replacement for all that old stuff.
Thanks for the info. Did you have a similar experience with Skype and WhatsApp?
I used Skype long ago and already forgot about it. The only thing I remember is that my friend's accounts were hacked numerous times and they send some insecure links to all friend list.
WhatsApp I never tried, but I think it's time had passed also.
I think the same. I see that you are experienced in this matter. I will be glad to know your experience more. Did you earn coins in some messenger? What did you get with these coins?
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@Kinal,
When I used Viber for instance it was hacked as I started to receive tons of spammy messages, I was added to different group chats with people I don't even know and messages were sent from my account by themselves. Then I switched to Telegram which seemed to be more secured but I got tired of all the bug, connection problems and security questions.
That's why I think that blockchain messengers can be a good replacement for all that old stuff.
Viber is really shitty app.
The most terrible can be only skype.
But if you can see, those are old ones.
The new ones appeared to be much better and more secured.
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I think the same. I see that you are experienced in this matter. I will be glad to know your experience more. Did you earn coins in some messenger? What did you get with these coins?
Stealthy messenger allows you to monetize your posts. The more likes you get - the more money you earn.
As for the messengers that have it's own coins - I didn't tried it as I'm not so sure in the value and potential of their coins - some of them require payment for full version and I'm not ready to invest in it yet.
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@Kinal,
When I used Viber for instance it was hacked as I started to receive tons of spammy messages, I was added to different group chats with people I don't even know and messages were sent from my account by themselves. Then I switched to Telegram which seemed to be more secured but I got tired of all the bug, connection problems and security questions.
That's why I think that blockchain messengers can be a good replacement for all that old stuff.
Viber is really shitty app.
The most terrible can be only skype.
But if you can see, those are old ones.
The new ones appeared to be much better and more secured.
Please tell me your experience with Skype. I can't persuade my colleagues to move on to new messenger . You could help me.
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@Kinal,
When I used Viber for instance it was hacked as I started to receive tons of spammy messages, I was added to different group chats with people I don't even know and messages were sent from my account by themselves. Then I switched to Telegram which seemed to be more secured but I got tired of all the bug, connection problems and security questions.
That's why I think that blockchain messengers can be a good replacement for all that old stuff.
Viber is really shitty app.
The most terrible can be only skype.
But if you can see, those are old ones.
The new ones appeared to be much better and more secured.
Please tell me your experience with Skype. I can't persuade my colleagues to move on to new messenger . You could help me.
It's no secret:
1. skype use 80 port which cause some issues with slow speed performance
2. it has terrible interface
3. many bugs that haven't been fixed for years
4. not secured
Is it enough?
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I think the same. I see that you are experienced in this matter. I will be glad to know your experience more. Did you earn coins in some messenger? What did you get with these coins?
Stealthy messenger allows you to monetize your posts. The more likes you get - the more money you earn.
As for the messengers that have it's own coins - I didn't tried it as I'm not so sure in the value and potential of their coins - some of them require payment for full version and I'm not ready to invest in it yet.
Can i get real money? Is this true? What do I need to do to get them into my wallet? It's very interesting in my opinion.
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@Kinal,
When I used Viber for instance it was hacked as I started to receive tons of spammy messages, I was added to different group chats with people I don't even know and messages were sent from my account by themselves. Then I switched to Telegram which seemed to be more secured but I got tired of all the bug, connection problems and security questions.
That's why I think that blockchain messengers can be a good replacement for all that old stuff.
Viber is really shitty app.
The most terrible can be only skype.
But if you can see, those are old ones.
The new ones appeared to be much better and more secured.
Please tell me your experience with Skype. I can't persuade my colleagues to move on to new messenger . You could help me.
It's no secret:
1. skype use 80 port which cause some issues with slow speed performance
2. it has terrible interface
3. many bugs that haven't been fixed for years
4. not secured
Is it enough?
Unfortunately, It's not a problem for my colleagues. :(
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@Kinal,
When I used Viber for instance it was hacked as I started to receive tons of spammy messages, I was added to different group chats with people I don't even know and messages were sent from my account by themselves. Then I switched to Telegram which seemed to be more secured but I got tired of all the bug, connection problems and security questions.
That's why I think that blockchain messengers can be a good replacement for all that old stuff.
Viber is really shitty app.
The most terrible can be only skype.
But if you can see, those are old ones.
The new ones appeared to be much better and more secured.
Please tell me your experience with Skype. I can't persuade my colleagues to move on to new messenger . You could help me.
It's no secret:
1. skype use 80 port which cause some issues with slow speed performance
2. it has terrible interface
3. many bugs that haven't been fixed for years
4. not secured
Is it enough?
Unfortunately, It's not a problem for my colleagues. :(
Then your colleagues don't give a shit about any privacy and convenience.
I really can understand that because I have people around who don't want to try something new because they used to communicate using crappy messengers.
The second reason is that many people use popular messengers because they can't find any friends who use those secured and not popular messengers.
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@Kinal,
When I used Viber for instance it was hacked as I started to receive tons of spammy messages, I was added to different group chats with people I don't even know and messages were sent from my account by themselves. Then I switched to Telegram which seemed to be more secured but I got tired of all the bug, connection problems and security questions.
That's why I think that blockchain messengers can be a good replacement for all that old stuff.
Viber is really shitty app.
The most terrible can be only skype.
But if you can see, those are old ones.
The new ones appeared to be much better and more secured.
Please tell me your experience with Skype. I can't persuade my colleagues to move on to new messenger . You could help me.
It's no secret:
1. skype use 80 port which cause some issues with slow speed performance
2. it has terrible interface
3. many bugs that haven't been fixed for years
4. not secured
Is it enough?
Unfortunately, It's not a problem for my colleagues. :(
Then your colleagues don't give a shit about any privacy and convenience.
I really can understand that because I have people around who don't want to try something new because they used to communicate using crappy messengers.
The second reason is that many people use popular messengers because they can't find any friends who use those secured and not popular messengers.
I ran into the same problem. People are afraid to try something new. They don't care about security and other benefits. It really worries me.
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I think the same. I see that you are experienced in this matter. I will be glad to know your experience more. Did you earn coins in some messenger? What did you get with these coins?
Stealthy messenger allows you to monetize your posts. The more likes you get - the more money you earn.
As for the messengers that have it's own coins - I didn't tried it as I'm not so sure in the value and potential of their coins - some of them require payment for full version and I'm not ready to invest in it yet.
Can i get real money? Is this true? What do I need to do to get them into my wallet? It's very interesting in my opinion.
I didn't try it myself so I couldn't tell you much about how it works. And the fact that this app is quite new doesn't make it very reliable.
I think they use some coins in order to award your good posts but I may be mistaken.
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@Kinal,
When I used Viber for instance it was hacked as I started to receive tons of spammy messages, I was added to different group chats with people I don't even know and messages were sent from my account by themselves. Then I switched to Telegram which seemed to be more secured but I got tired of all the bug, connection problems and security questions.
That's why I think that blockchain messengers can be a good replacement for all that old stuff.
Viber is really shitty app.
The most terrible can be only skype.
But if you can see, those are old ones.
The new ones appeared to be much better and more secured.
Please tell me your experience with Skype. I can't persuade my colleagues to move on to new messenger . You could help me.
It's no secret:
1. skype use 80 port which cause some issues with slow speed performance
2. it has terrible interface
3. many bugs that haven't been fixed for years
4. not secured
Is it enough?
Unfortunately, It's not a problem for my colleagues. :(
Then your colleagues don't give a shit about any privacy and convenience.
I really can understand that because I have people around who don't want to try something new because they used to communicate using crappy messengers.
The second reason is that many people use popular messengers because they can't find any friends who use those secured and not popular messengers.
I ran into the same problem. People are afraid to try something new. They don't care about security and other benefits. It really worries me.
Everyone choose what suits his needs.
Some people don't use secured messengers because they have nothing to hide.
They are not afraid to have their data stolen.
But for me it's a kind of principle to provide privacy and security for my crypto transactions.
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I don't like services that have many functions. Developers chase after quantity and forget about quality. A company may produce good refrigerators, but their vacuum cleaners will be of poor quality. It's my opinion. I think the combination of the messenger and the wallet will increase the field for the activity of scammers.
You can find scammers everywhere - not only in messengers. You just have to choose the right trader before you send money to him.
And why do you think that all-at-one messengers are bad? Those that have built-in wallets made a good encryption.
Cryptomessengers are too young for my attention. They aren't tested by a large number of people. I can't trust them as a blind man.
If all of us will behave like you do - no one will test anything ever! It' not so hard to download an app and check what is it.
If you won't like it you always have a right to delete it.
It's so simple, bro :)
I like to try new things, but I choose what to try. I don't want to try weed from the garden.
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Tired of the fact that everyone constantly offends Telegrams. Telegram is generally the best that now is. Can you give any arguments against?
I can :)
1. It needs your phone number for registration - what is already not private.
2. It doesn't use end-to-end encryption. They tell they use it for secret chats only which are not available to everyone - only to iOS users.
3. IP address is exposed to operator
4. It has an access to user location
5. It stores all data on the server
Should I continue?
so, do all your really necessary correspondence in secret chats, what's the problem? I do not think that you are such an interesting person, that some people are watching you and your correspondence :-\
I think it's not about correspondence only as some people do crypto transactions using messengers for example and they don't want to leak information dedicated to it for sure.
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with the help of the Telegram, it is now possible to carry out various kinds of transactions absolutely calmly and without fear. he is really safe. In this messenger, no one will definitely steal your data.
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So I just proved you that it's not safe at all and you start speaking about safe transactions in Telegram? Are you insane?
You'll remember my words when you'll lose your money using that shitty messenger.
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I don't understand why we all talk about privacy and security while internet connection itself implies the ability to have access to any data which is transferred using network.
It's the most difficult but still possible way to hack and access your data.
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I don't understand why we all talk about privacy and security while internet connection itself implies the ability to have access to any data which is transferred using network.
It's the most difficult but still possible way to hack and access your data.
You're right, you have to control everything in order to be safe on the web - using vpn, safe browsers and so on. And still it's hard to be sure in your privacy.
But I think that's why blockchain appeared. And I think soon there will be not only messengers and crypto apps but whole networks based on blockchain that will give us full anonymity.
Will you agree?
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I don't understand why we all talk about privacy and security while internet connection itself implies the ability to have access to any data which is transferred using network.
It's the most difficult but still possible way to hack and access your data.
You're right, you have to control everything in order to be safe on the web - using vpn, safe browsers and so on. And still it's hard to be sure in your privacy.
But I think that's why blockchain appeared. And I think soon there will be not only messengers and crypto apps but whole networks based on blockchain that will give us full anonymity.
Will you agree?
Yes, I am.
But still I believe I won't be so destroyed if one day I will lose any data or money because of the unsecured apps, extensions, messengers, websites we use.
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I don't understand why we all talk about privacy and security while internet connection itself implies the ability to have access to any data which is transferred using network.
It's the most difficult but still possible way to hack and access your data.
You're right, you have to control everything in order to be safe on the web - using vpn, safe browsers and so on. And still it's hard to be sure in your privacy.
But I think that's why blockchain appeared. And I think soon there will be not only messengers and crypto apps but whole networks based on blockchain that will give us full anonymity.
Will you agree?
Yes, I am.
But still I believe I won't be so destroyed if one day I will lose any data or money because of the unsecured apps, extensions, messengers, websites we use.
That's why you have to find open source apps and check everything yourself before using some scam apps which are known to few people only.
I'm sure there are good ones as people need that privacy already..
And if you don't want to lose your data somehow - it's better to watch after every step you make. I mean don't follow every link you see and receive at least.
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I don't understand why we all talk about privacy and security while internet connection itself implies the ability to have access to any data which is transferred using network.
It's the most difficult but still possible way to hack and access your data.
You're right, you have to control everything in order to be safe on the web - using vpn, safe browsers and so on. And still it's hard to be sure in your privacy.
But I think that's why blockchain appeared. And I think soon there will be not only messengers and crypto apps but whole networks based on blockchain that will give us full anonymity.
Will you agree?
Yes, I am.
But still I believe I won't be so destroyed if one day I will lose any data or money because of the unsecured apps, extensions, messengers, websites we use.
That's why you have to find open source apps and check everything yourself before using some scam apps which are known to few people only.
I'm sure there are good ones as people need that privacy already..
And if you don't want to lose your data somehow - it's better to watch after every step you make. I mean don't follow every link you see and receive at least.
Well, it'll be difficult to find security proofed one, because I'm not so good at privacy knowledge and methods of checking it using some apps.
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You can ask people who understand that sphere. Moreover good developers usually post a white list where they explain everything in simple words. In order to make it understandable for everyone as they have to attract more people to their project. Not only those who deals with IT.
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i think all aspect now was interest for using blockchain technology, like you say, messengers or social media is one of that whos using blockchain, you can chat and send message through their platform and got rewarded by their token.
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I like to try new things, but I choose what to try. I don't want to try weed from the garden.
Then you can compare the most private messengers and choose the best one. I agree that some of them are awful, but still you can give a change to better ones.
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I like to try new things, but I choose what to try. I don't want to try weed from the garden.
Then you can compare the most private messengers and choose the best one. I agree that some of them are awful, but still you can give a change to better ones.
I feel sorry for my time for this. When any messenger becomes popular, I'll try it.
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I like to try new things, but I choose what to try. I don't want to try weed from the garden.
Then you can compare the most private messengers and choose the best one. I agree that some of them are awful, but still you can give a change to better ones.
I feel sorry for my time for this. When any messenger becomes popular, I'll try it.
But they are already popular I think.. Or you want to wait until they gain as many users as WhatsApp has now?
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I like to try new things, but I choose what to try. I don't want to try weed from the garden.
Then you can compare the most private messengers and choose the best one. I agree that some of them are awful, but still you can give a change to better ones.
I feel sorry for my time for this. When any messenger becomes popular, I'll try it.
But they are already popular I think.. Or you want to wait until they gain as many users as WhatsApp has now?
Yes, I want it. When the messenger can replace the WhatsApp, then I will switch to it. I see no reason to do it now. This is complete nonsense to lose your time!
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I think telegram was gonna do an ico, to go to blockchain. But before them, probably some other projects will achieve this.
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I think telegram was gonna do an ico, to go to blockchain. But before them, probably some other projects will achieve this.
I would not believe anything connected to Telegram.
They have to learn privacy first of all and then produce ICO.
If they'll develop it I will consider it as a scam and will not use it for sure.
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All this still does not inspire confidence in me to any instant messenger other than Telegram.