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Cryptocurrency Ecosystem => Bitcoin Forum => Topic started by: ayatoslaw on October 12, 2018, 06:51:34 AM
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ETF has become hot news in recent days, but many people are asking, is it true that ETF make bull markets not happen at the end of 2018?
because many argue that if the ETF had been successfully approved, the bull market could occur later this year.
What is your opinion?
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Great effect and affect crypto prices. that's what I feel for ETF results. however the result, we as users must be ready to accept the results.
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Great effect and affect crypto prices. that's what I feel for ETF results. however the result, we as users must be ready to accept the results.
the results we now receive, in your opinion, are these things a loss or a profit?
if I see it this is an advantage for us to buy more assets, and hold it until the bull market actually happens,
it's just that most of us feel the market will fall forever,
whereas this is only temporary, and because of the effects of ETF only.
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I think the decision is in November/December time, if I'm not mistaken. Comments to be received by the end of this month, ish.
I don't think it'll happen until mid-2019 though, with a confirmation sometime in Q1. But who knows really.
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I agree if ETF proposal can be approved, it can contribute to trigger the next bullrun. But I think we need other factors to make the bullrun really happens. Actually I don't know about the latest news of ETF. If anyone knows about it, I think you can inform to us here.
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There are some more important news than ETF that we should be aware of and follow it in a more dedicated way. For example bakkt and halving process of bitcoin.
Market cycle is very related to the halving process, and bakkt is probably going to provide more regulated market to the uinvestors, so that ETF is going to have more chance.
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ETF might cause a bull market to start, yes. But I believe we need more of it, like Bakkt. As soon as we have a stable market, we will see another bull.
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Many argue about it, about the influence of the ETH to the Bull-market. But, is that so that the bull-market can occur so suddenly because of that ETF? In fact, now is the early year of 2019. We still cannot see the bull market is coming. The market is still struggling. But of course, hopefully, I also hope for the bull market that can happen in this year.
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That's what I believe the most. I really want to believe that the cryptocurrency industry will respond positively to the decision about ETF.
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I think it is quite logical to link these two things, because the adoption of ETF and bull market have a direct relationship.
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ETF has become hot news in recent days, but many people are asking, is it true that ETF make bull markets not happen at the end of 2018?
because many argue that if the ETF had been successfully approved, the bull market could occur later this year.
What is your opinion?
ETF's are financial tools used for stocks and bonds. If used with cryptocurrencies, it will make them behave as assets. Bitcoin and other blockchain coins were made as an alternative form of payment. They will help market liquidity, but they will distract the alt payment course.
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Their opinions may be true at the time but it seems to have no big impacts for the market condition now. Market looks very bad and unpredictable day to day. The rise in only about pump and then they dump again the prices. I am afraid if we also won't have the bullrun this year.
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Etf, bull market, hardfork, they are always hot news in this crypto world. many people are talking about this, wishing that the market will be bull-run as soon as possible, but it is not happening. Well, we may not need to always relate about them because we must be aware of the fact in the market.
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I believe ETF is not enough all by itself. That's why we need to look for Bakkt and halving too.
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I am not really sure with the impact of ETF proposal. I guess ETF proposal just brings a temporary increase in market if it is accepted. It is likely to not trigger for the bullrun. Market looks very badly, I think we should have more big issues to trigger the bullrun.
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I think to count on the growth of the market, based on one news is not worth it. Yet they will have to prepare the whole infrastructure for this, and this is not one month.
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ETF is the kind of thing that we have been told for a long time and confidently, and people believed in it, but I think it's all lies.
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If the ETF is ever confirmed, then of course there is a huge chance that the cryptocurrency market will immediately start to grow, but until the ETF is confirmed, the years will pass because they dont want it at the moment.
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Am pretty sure that the ETF will bring about positivity in the cryptocurrency world and also build confidence in the market and in investors as well, I when the ETF is approved investors will be able to invest there funds with fear of been scammed because they feel there investment is secured.
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I think ETF will not be accepted, and everyone will start selling BTC, but when everyone sells all their BTC, then there will be a bull market and growth.
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I am not really sure with the impact of ETF proposal. I guess ETF proposal just brings a temporary increase in market if it is accepted. It is likely to not trigger for the bullrun. Market looks very badly, I think we should have more big issues to trigger the bullrun.
I believe the one will trigger it is the eth network since they have a lot of improvement and system upgrade in their network which is tasteful to a lot of investors if you would noticed it price jump is vety fast from a tremendous down trend of it.
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Let's wait for the ETF adoption time and then decide what to do with it. They refused more than 5 times, what's different this time?
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Is like ETF is what everybody is waiting for bitcoin to rally. There was always a temporary bull movement last year once it is rumoured that SEC will announce ETF admission only for it to be postponed. It is also rumoured that by the first quarter of 2019 Bitcoin ETF will be announced.
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I think the decision about the ETF and bullish market have a direct dependence and if there is an affirmative decision to launch it, the bulls will capture this market.
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We will be able to say this exactly as soon as we hear the outcome about the ETF. This will show us the beginning of growth or decline.
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Now it is a leading position in the market, in which all people believe. This has its pros and cons.
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I think that if the ETF is approve, then we can have a new bull run because we will at least have something to control this market and reduce the spread of volatility in the past time
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Many are waiting for some unrealistic results, after the announcement of the conclusion about the ETF, but personally I do not build such hopes.
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It seems to me that this is a pretty good trap, planned for a complete collapse of the cryptocurrency market.
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If I make imagination for both, then I will give an illustration like this:
SEC: a gathering place for traders: markets
ETF: capital or merchant money: Gold, Silver, Berlian, Oil (next Bitcoin).
We can see that SEC has been there before Bitcoin. ETFs are only acquisitions for Bitcoin received in the SEC trading market. Because it's the same as the case with the newly launched exchange that accepts trading pairs with Bitcoin.
In conclusion: It will not have an effect that is too high because the SEC and ETF are not too influential on the Bitcoin trade, maybe the increase in Bitcoin prices is also around 20-30%.
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If I make imagination for both, then I will give an illustration like this:
SEC: a gathering place for traders: markets
ETF: capital or merchant money: Gold, Silver, Berlian, Oil (next Bitcoin).
We can see that SEC has been there before Bitcoin. ETFs are only acquisitions for Bitcoin received in the SEC trading market. Because it's the same as the case with the newly launched exchange that accepts trading pairs with Bitcoin.
In conclusion: It will not have an effect that is too high because the SEC and ETF are not too influential on the Bitcoin trade, maybe the increase in Bitcoin prices is also around 20-30%.
Thank you for the clarification, but I make sure that all that has a combination of cryptocurrency trading cannot be predicted.
20-30% is just a number that can change anytime.
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It seems that I agree with most people in this forum, that ETFs will influence the bitcoin market more or less. And surely that will also affect the altcoin, because with the approval of the ETF, it will provide more certainty about the legality of bitcoin. So that it will trigger more people or institutions to enter the bitcoin and altcoin markets
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I have a sense of feeling that if ETF approve by SEC, then we will have a new capital join the market and we will also have a new bull run too. Hope that next month SEC will approve ETF :)
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ETF is not far off, so we are waiting for a decision on this issue and then we will understand whether the bulls are ready for this.
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The bull market is quite a strange thing. If you look at the past event, contributing to all growth, the market reacted to it only after 3 months.
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Here I am looking at the ETF solely from an investor who understands that its resolution will give the opportunity to manipulate the market even more.
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I think that ETH will trigger the next bull or at least a recovery of crypto world when it approved by SEC. Everyone is counting the day left for that event too
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I have notice that nothing is really causing any remarkable bull run this period. It is only great dip when there is a little bad news.
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the ETF delayed and i have been seeing the price of bitcoin decrease and the market go to red signal, i worry about that, hope everthing will recover soon
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what is that ETF its Over Or Not Yet ?
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what is that ETF its Over Or Not Yet ?
ETF has been delayed again. Read the previous comments, some have made good comments about it
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Personally, I'm thinking, someone who attracts. Maybe this isn't the ETF will attract bulls, and the bulls are forced to allow ETF.
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Here's everyone talking about ETFs and that it will help the whole industry. I do have the same thoughts, but what are the chances of success?
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How do you view an ETF and what exactly should it give to this market? Personally, I don't expect anything from ETFs, just the advertised part.
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Even if the ETF is approved, it seems to me that this still will not make the market immediately come to life, most likely it will take a long time for serious investors to pull themselves up!
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the ETF delayed and i have been seeing the price of bitcoin decrease and the market go to red signal, i worry about that, hope everthing will recover soon
It is very unfortunate, and I smell something bad in this case. We have already seen many delays of ETF, it happened repeatedly. I think SEC has a scenario related to the approval of ETF. I don't know what it is, but I hope it is not a bad plan.
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it's true and I think ETFs have a huge effect on price increases, and I really believe that this will happen this year.
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it's true and I think ETFs have a huge effect on price increases, and I really believe that this will happen this year.
ETF's will bring new players in the marketplace. This is good, VERY GOOD! I think that this year, will be a year of profits.
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~snip~ I think ETFs have a huge effect on price increases, and I really believe that this will happen this year.
We don't know whether it will bring big impacts or not. To be honest, I am not really sure when ETF proposal can be approved, then it will lead to bullrun or significant rise. We only speculate about it, so I suggest to not 100% count on it.
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ETF's will bring new players in the marketplace. This is good, VERY GOOD! I think that this year, will be a year of profits.
With the possible high increase in most crypto coins, more people may come and participate. When ETF proposal can be accepted, people in USA will be easier to have crypto assets. By the way, profits are always to get in each year.
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We don't know whether it will bring big impacts or not. To be honest, I am not really sure when ETF proposal can be approved, then it will lead to bullrun or significant rise. We only speculate about it, so I suggest to not 100% count on it.
I agree that we don't know what will happen in the future. The impacts of high increase are still a guess. There is a chance to turn the right prediction but also it has a chance to fail. It is still difficult to trust the prediction in this case.