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Title: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: AltLogan on October 15, 2018, 03:06:06 PM
I wonder is there any difference?
Do they cause more confidence and grow rapidly in price? Or no difference?
Please share your knowledge or opinion.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: Marryan on October 15, 2018, 03:28:50 PM
Investing in ICO is much more risky than investing in Bitcoin for example.
ICO is a project that can fail for different reasons: weak market, few customers, etc.

If you want to invest in ICO coins you have to check its story and volatility of the coin. You have to do a big research.
So for a novice in crypto it's better to choose something more valuable.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: Jaguar on October 15, 2018, 03:29:22 PM
More project that earn strong community and potential supporters doesn't like ICO because they knew it will succeed according to their scaling. That is their strategy that I think this kind of project are potential possession to hold for sure success will come.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: dragononcrypto on October 15, 2018, 03:45:05 PM
More project that earn strong community and potential supporters doesn't like ICO because they knew it will succeed according to their scaling. That is their strategy that I think this kind of project are potential possession to hold for sure success will come.

This is true, there are many projects with large communities that have done airdrop programs instead of ICO, or even forks that have been successful.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: AltLogan on October 15, 2018, 03:46:55 PM
Investing in ICO is much more risky than investing in Bitcoin for example.
ICO is a project that can fail for different reasons: weak market, few customers, etc.

If you want to invest in ICO coins you have to check its story and volatility of the coin. You have to do a big research.
So for a novice in crypto it's better to choose something more valuable.

So then it's better not to start with ICO?
How can get more profit?
What you suggest to start with?
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: AltLogan on October 15, 2018, 03:49:14 PM
More project that earn strong community and potential supporters doesn't like ICO because they knew it will succeed according to their scaling. That is their strategy that I think this kind of project are potential possession to hold for sure success will come.

This is true, there are many projects with large communities that have done airdrop programs instead of ICO, or even forks that have been successful.

So you recommend to try airdrops?
Then I have to make really big research.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: jjeeppeerrxx on October 15, 2018, 03:57:13 PM
Investing in ICO is much more risky than investing in Bitcoin for example.
ICO is a project that can fail for different reasons: weak market, few customers, etc.

If you want to invest in ICO coins you have to check its story and volatility of the coin. You have to do a big research.
So for a novice in crypto it's better to choose something more valuable.

So then it's better not to start with ICO?
How can get more profit?
What you suggest to start with?

ICO’s are good to help the creation of the product and the development of the platform according to the roadmap of a project but selective projects with sincere team. The hardest part for now is that we don’t really know or 100% sure if the project will succeed.

I am still in the stage of determining which is which, I mean which is good an ICO or No ICO project as per noticed the No ICO project is worth to follow and support since they rely on the community & solid supporters though they also have partnerships with other companies to build a solid relationship for the future development at the same time I know they do have big private investors to support their project without ICO. That’s why I am supporting one project with that characteristic, not only they give value to their project but also giving value to the community and support charities at the same time conducting auction to help the project grow.

In this case they attached to more solid private investors as well as community to support the development.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: Marryan on October 15, 2018, 04:05:34 PM
Investing in ICO is much more risky than investing in Bitcoin for example.
ICO is a project that can fail for different reasons: weak market, few customers, etc.

If you want to invest in ICO coins you have to check its story and volatility of the coin. You have to do a big research.
So for a novice in crypto it's better to choose something more valuable.

So then it's better not to start with ICO?
How can get more profit?
What you suggest to start with?

If you have not much money you can invest in Ripple for example or Ethereum.
Both of them already proved that it's not a scam and that they have a big potential.

Anyway you better learn the market on your own. Don't start investing until you're sure that you understand something.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: AltLogan on October 15, 2018, 04:12:18 PM

ICO’s are good to help the creation of the product and the development of the platform according to the roadmap of a project but selective projects with sincere team. The hardest part for now is that we don’t really know or 100% sure if the project will succeed.

I am still in the stage of determining which is which, I mean which is good an ICO or No ICO project as per noticed the No ICO project is worth to follow and support since they rely on the community & solid supporters though they also have partnerships with other companies to build a solid relationship for the future development at the same time I know they do have big private investors to support their project without ICO. That’s why I am supporting one project with that characteristic, not only they give value to their project but also giving value to the community and support charities at the same time conducting auction to help the project grow.

In this case they attached to more solid private investors as well as community to support the development.

Thanks for your reply.
The one thing that makes me still doubt is that we can't be sure or even predict ICO success.
And I think ICO supporters mostly those who have thier own profit from what they create themselves.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: dragononcrypto on October 15, 2018, 04:17:07 PM
More project that earn strong community and potential supporters doesn't like ICO because they knew it will succeed according to their scaling. That is their strategy that I think this kind of project are potential possession to hold for sure success will come.

This is true, there are many projects with large communities that have done airdrop programs instead of ICO, or even forks that have been successful.

So you recommend to try airdrops?
Then I have to make really big research.

Not necessarily, but look at projects that didn't have an ICO. These days, they will be projects with airdrops/forks, as there are not many.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: AltLogan on October 15, 2018, 04:18:16 PM
More project that earn strong community and potential supporters doesn't like ICO because they knew it will succeed according to their scaling. That is their strategy that I think this kind of project are potential possession to hold for sure success will come.

This is true, there are many projects with large communities that have done airdrop programs instead of ICO, or even forks that have been successful.

So you recommend to try airdrops?
Then I have to make really big research.

Not necessarily, but look at projects that didn't have an ICO. These days, they will be projects with airdrops/forks, as there are not many.


Thank you for the suggestion.
Can you recommend something reliable according to your experience?
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: Bica on October 15, 2018, 04:22:24 PM
I think they are more reliable. I would choose them. Scammers will not just distribute tokens and invest their money.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: AltLogan on October 15, 2018, 04:24:47 PM
I think they are more reliable. I would choose them. Scammers will not just distribute tokens and invest their money.


Do you think there are no scams in ICO free area?
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: Bica on October 15, 2018, 04:29:07 PM
I think they are more reliable. I would choose them. Scammers will not just distribute tokens and invest their money.


Do you think there are no scams in ICO free area?
I hope so. I can't be sure. I consider it more likely to lose my investment when I work with ICO project.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: Marryan on October 15, 2018, 04:29:51 PM
I think they are more reliable. I would choose them. Scammers will not just distribute tokens and invest their money.

Scammers can earn some more money and disappear. this is how it works..
If it's an ICO that has nothing then no one would invest in it and they get nothing too.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: AltLogan on October 15, 2018, 04:31:55 PM
I think they are more reliable. I would choose them. Scammers will not just distribute tokens and invest their money.

Scammers can earn some more money and disappear. this is how it works..
If it's an ICO that has nothing then no one would invest in it and they get nothing too.

Is there any security measures we can do ourselves to avoid it?
Or it depends on airdrops or ICO creators?
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: eldial on October 15, 2018, 04:33:41 PM
I think coins issued without ICO is very reliable in the market  because it can be changes directly to the investors without  signing of agreement and it should be a scam supposively but in terms of changing into a cash basis is too not easy to works for it.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: Bica on October 15, 2018, 04:35:00 PM
I think they are more reliable. I would choose them. Scammers will not just distribute tokens and invest their money.

Scammers can earn some more money and disappear. this is how it works..
If it's an ICO that has nothing then no one would invest in it and they get nothing too.

People invest in projects having nothing. And they disappear. It works like this. I haven't heard of other stories.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: AltLogan on October 15, 2018, 04:37:17 PM
I think they are more reliable. I would choose them. Scammers will not just distribute tokens and invest their money.

Scammers can earn some more money and disappear. this is how it works..
If it's an ICO that has nothing then no one would invest in it and they get nothing too.

So then I guess there is nothing to trust in.
Scammers can be everywhere, right?
What's your secured ideas then?
People invest in projects having nothing. And they disappear. It works like this. I haven't heard of other stories.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: Marryan on October 15, 2018, 04:43:10 PM
I think they are more reliable. I would choose them. Scammers will not just distribute tokens and invest their money.

Scammers can earn some more money and disappear. this is how it works..
If it's an ICO that has nothing then no one would invest in it and they get nothing too.

Is there any security measures we can do ourselves to avoid it?
Or it depends on airdrops or ICO creators?

All we can do is to learn the market properly and don't invest in unknown things.
I don't know any other ways out. Especially when you're a novice and don't know much about the market.
It's not so simple as many of you think it is.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: AltLogan on October 15, 2018, 05:00:03 PM
I think they are more reliable. I would choose them. Scammers will not just distribute tokens and invest their money.

Scammers can earn some more money and disappear. this is how it works..
If it's an ICO that has nothing then no one would invest in it and they get nothing too.

Is there any security measures we can do ourselves to avoid it?
Or it depends on airdrops or ICO creators?

All we can do is to learn the market properly and don't invest in unknown things.
I don't know any other ways out. Especially when you're a novice and don't know much about the market.
It's not so simple as many of you think it is.

Agree!
But I mean that not only well known services are secured since scammers are finding ways to pass by all.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: backfirst77 on October 15, 2018, 05:17:05 PM
Usually coins or tokens do ICO to sell their products. But there are also those who do not go through the ICO process as usual. CYFM and MFTU are tokens distributed not through the ICO mechanism and are listed in many exchanges. This proves that this system without ICO can be done because also.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: ismelda_ita on October 15, 2018, 05:17:56 PM
I wonder is there any difference?
Do they cause more confidence and grow rapidly in price? Or no difference?
Please share your knowledge or opinion.
Of course, it's different. Coins without an ICO usually function to serve in the exchange of goods or services. So the price of each coin reflects the form of cash and liquidity. While ICO coins are generally more focused on a project. Their token is created to meet certain types of market instruments or is a single business. even making it on existing blockchain supports smart contracts like Ethereum and Waves.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: Marryan on October 15, 2018, 05:55:27 PM
Usually coins or tokens do ICO to sell their products. But there are also those who do not go through the ICO process as usual. CYFM and MFTU are tokens distributed not through the ICO mechanism and are listed in many exchanges. This proves that this system without ICO can be done because also.

So are they more reliable ones? Or it's also easy to get into scam?
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: Zed0X on October 15, 2018, 06:05:03 PM
I wonder is there any difference?
Do they cause more confidence and grow rapidly in price? Or no difference?
Please share your knowledge or opinion.

Are you trying to compare the 100% Airdropped tokens and ICO funded projects?

If that is what you meant, then here is what I think:
They appear to have a similar pattern (many will pop up and many will soon die or fail) but the mortality rate of ICOs are a bit lower compared to airdrops. Although I can say that I have seen some notable 100% airdropped projects I joined that are performing better than ICOs but atleast 90% of them are gone now.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: Marryan on October 15, 2018, 06:20:14 PM
I wonder is there any difference?
Do they cause more confidence and grow rapidly in price? Or no difference?
Please share your knowledge or opinion.

Are you trying to compare the 100% Airdropped tokens and ICO funded projects?

If that is what you meant, then here is what I think:
They appear to have a similar pattern (many will pop up and many will soon die or fail) but the mortality rate of ICOs are a bit lower compared to airdrops. Although I can say that I have seen some notable 100% airdropped projects I joined that are performing better than ICOs but atleast 90% of them are gone now.

That's exactly why I think it's better to invest in Bitcoin or Ethereum. They're not going to disappear in nearest time.
Am I right? Or ICOs may be more potential?
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: tamango on October 15, 2018, 09:51:27 PM
Ico is not necessary to be succesful for a project there are. Some good cases of project without ico like rebellious that have done only airdrop. Community support is very important ..
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: babfurkan on October 15, 2018, 11:01:05 PM
I know an example MCT(Master Contract Token). They issued all coins only with airdrop. if you hold any NEO token you get 1k MCT. The team were working hard and try to create new ecosystem for NEO. But later I sold my airdrop tokens in return about 80 usd and stop to follow team and new process ;D
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: Dinid on October 15, 2018, 11:58:51 PM
Not every crypto project need an ICO.

Q : What is ICO ?
A : ICO (initial coin offering) or (initial currency offering) is a type of funding using cryptocurrencies. Mostly the process is done by crowdfunding but private ICO's are becoming more common.
Source : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initial_coin_offering

Ico is related to crowdfunding.
So, Big Self-Funded Companies that have real business ecosystem,  do not need to launch any ICO to raise fund.
These Companies may be create their digital crypto currency (coin or token) is to improve/ease their business payment feature.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: ComeBack on October 16, 2018, 12:14:14 AM
If some coins didn't issued or have an ICO it means they have enough funds for the project but for those project that has an ICO they need a huge amount of money to launch their project that's why they doing it  :)
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: Warung_lontong on October 16, 2018, 01:18:48 AM
for now there are very many coins issued without the ico program and that is what is called airdrop, and I think airdrop is more popular now than ico.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: de_prof on October 16, 2018, 02:17:01 AM
Investing in ICO is much more risky than investing in Bitcoin for example.
ICO is a project that can fail for different reasons: weak market, few customers, etc.

If you want to invest in ICO coins you have to check its story and volatility of the coin. You have to do a big research.
So for a novice in crypto it's better to choose something more valuable.

I agree mate. Investing in ICO is more risky than invest in coin. too many ICOs are scam. I prefer invest in bitcoin and ethereum. They are trusted coin.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: Alpha on October 16, 2018, 05:18:57 AM
I think that project have been in great formation of team, investors, supporters, and product to produce in the market. That could be mean ready to launch.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: Pupus on October 16, 2018, 06:15:49 AM
there are lots of coins produced from good ico. personally, I would prefer the coins that produced by ico because we can know how the prospects are in the future. but it all depends on the project being followed.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: sampoerna on October 16, 2018, 08:29:47 AM
Most likely the coin is new or maybe the coin is a scam. It could be like that. I am sure there are many coins that provide ICO too. So they are more reliable and better than coins that are not in the ICO. Because later the ICO project will help raise the price in addition to the buyers by the traders.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: Legends on October 16, 2018, 11:32:44 AM
basically, it all depends on the prospect of the coin itself. if the coin has a good prospect then I think it will be a good coin. but if we follow legit ico then we also get coins that are legit too.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: Dprincebh on October 16, 2018, 11:43:30 AM
I wonder is there any difference?
Do they cause more confidence and grow rapidly in price? Or no difference?
Please share your knowledge or opinion.
The coins suffer devaluation at first when the coin or token is been launched into the market but aftetward the price stabilize
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: AltLogan on October 16, 2018, 12:09:52 PM
I wonder is there any difference?
Do they cause more confidence and grow rapidly in price? Or no difference?
Please share your knowledge or opinion.
Of course, it's different. Coins without an ICO usually function to serve in the exchange of goods or services. So the price of each coin reflects the form of cash and liquidity. While ICO coins are generally more focused on a project. Their token is created to meet certain types of market instruments or is a single business. even making it on existing blockchain supports smart contracts like Ethereum and Waves.


So that means ICO projects are willing to bring more profit to those who started the project?
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: AltLogan on October 16, 2018, 12:11:51 PM
I wonder is there any difference?
Do they cause more confidence and grow rapidly in price? Or no difference?
Please share your knowledge or opinion.

Are you trying to compare the 100% Airdropped tokens and ICO funded projects?

If that is what you meant, then here is what I think:
They appear to have a similar pattern (many will pop up and many will soon die or fail) but the mortality rate of ICOs are a bit lower compared to airdrops. Although I can say that I have seen some notable 100% airdropped projects I joined that are performing better than ICOs but atleast 90% of them are gone now.

Ok, so then ICO is more reliable and long term period lasting?
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: cryptofunn on October 16, 2018, 12:42:38 PM
Many projects collect funds at the private collection stage. and in general they do not need to spend ICO. As a rule, these are very high-quality projects that are legally responsible to investors. Some projects do not sell tokens, and distribute according to the scheme of airdrop
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: Abusadeeq6 on October 16, 2018, 12:57:13 PM
I think doing ICO is the best option for now. Because u got to attract a large community in order to keep the project going
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: AltLogan on October 16, 2018, 12:59:25 PM
Ico is not necessary to be succesful for a project there are. Some good cases of project without ico like rebellious that have done only airdrop. Community support is very important ..

Ok, that means you mostly believe in ICO potential according to community support importance?
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: Marryan on October 16, 2018, 05:09:34 PM
Investing in ICO is much more risky than investing in Bitcoin for example.
ICO is a project that can fail for different reasons: weak market, few customers, etc.

If you want to invest in ICO coins you have to check its story and volatility of the coin. You have to do a big research.
So for a novice in crypto it's better to choose something more valuable.

I agree mate. Investing in ICO is more risky than invest in coin. too many ICOs are scam. I prefer invest in bitcoin and ethereum. They are trusted coin.

That's exactly what I do. Maybe some ICOs will become really valuable and I will regret, but still it's hard to predict
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: Nazir on October 16, 2018, 07:23:51 PM
If a few coins did not issued or have an ICO it means they have got sufficient budget for the project but for those mission that has an ICO they want a big sum of money to launch their undertaking it's why they doing it.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: Helex on October 16, 2018, 09:06:35 PM
usually coins or tokens do ICO to promote their products. however there are also folk that do no longer undergo the ICO procedure a usual. CYFM and MFTU are tokens dispensed now not through the ICO mechanism and are indexed in lot of exchanges. This proves that this device without ICO may be achieved because also.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: horseheadnebula on October 16, 2018, 09:56:46 PM
For example ONT was issued without ICO since they received enough funding. Instead of having an ICO, they made an airdrop which was worth like 1000 ONT and 10k USD at its peak. Crazy amount for an airdrop. However ONT is not the only example. There are bad examples as well. I would stay away from pre-mined coins since they are probably not decentralized and can be manipulated easily.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: atmanagari on October 16, 2018, 10:07:03 PM
usually coins or tokens do ICO to promote their products. however there are also folk that do no longer undergo the ICO procedure a usual. CYFM and MFTU are tokens dispensed now not through the ICO mechanism and are indexed in lot of exchanges. This proves that this device without ICO may be achieved because also.
Siacash Coin, Bitcoin Token, Denta Coin are also exampes, they didn't launch the ICO. They reward their supporters via Airdrop and or Bounty. Now they (These tokens) are listed on so many exchanges. Successful project without ICO.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: trofim21 on October 16, 2018, 11:08:41 PM
how without iсo? Honestly, I have not yet seen such projects, every altcoin has a project behind its back, which means that it sold coins for the implementation
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: Bica on October 17, 2018, 12:25:30 AM
I think they are more reliable. I would choose them. Scammers will not just distribute tokens and invest their money.

Scammers can earn some more money and disappear. this is how it works..
If it's an ICO that has nothing then no one would invest in it and they get nothing too.

So then I guess there is nothing to trust in.
Scammers can be everywhere, right?
What's your secured ideas then?
People invest in projects having nothing. And they disappear. It works like this. I haven't heard of other stories.

If the smart guys gave the funds for the development of the project it will be reliable. A project was created to address the needs of a certain group of people. I trust that project more.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: AltLogan on October 17, 2018, 11:00:20 AM
Many projects collect funds at the private collection stage. and in general they do not need to spend ICO. As a rule, these are very high-quality projects that are legally responsible to investors. Some projects do not sell tokens, and distribute according to the scheme of airdrop

Those high-quality projects are related to airdrops, right?
Can you recommend some reliable?
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: AltLogan on October 17, 2018, 11:03:08 AM
usually coins or tokens do ICO to promote their products. however there are also folk that do no longer undergo the ICO procedure a usual. CYFM and MFTU are tokens dispensed now not through the ICO mechanism and are indexed in lot of exchanges. This proves that this device without ICO may be achieved because also.

So then if ICO mostly for promotion developers products, then it's better to start with airdrops?
Do you think  it can bring more profit?
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: hoodie on October 22, 2018, 03:51:24 PM
I look at the opinions were divided, but in my opinion it is more rational to use coins issued with ICO.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: JaymondStark on October 22, 2018, 04:07:51 PM
Some of them show amazing dedication to the project and gains very big community support.

Well, I was in the whitelist when Ontology decided to go forward with airdrop, and it really went well. I needlessly looked at the project and decided to support them to the end.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: AltLogan on October 29, 2018, 11:57:53 AM
I look at the opinions were divided, but in my opinion it is more rational to use coins issued with ICO.

Why?
You think it's more reliable or there are other reasons?
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: GREENch85 on October 29, 2018, 02:59:20 PM
Some projects did not hold public ICO as their tokens/coins were sold out at an early stage. There are projects in which all tokens/coins were distributed between funds.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: AltLogan on November 04, 2018, 12:37:25 PM
Some projects did not hold public ICO as their tokens/coins were sold out at an early stage. There are projects in which all tokens/coins were distributed between funds.

Can you please suggest some of these projects?
I think it'a what I am looking for.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: muneerashine on November 04, 2018, 12:41:25 PM
Few altcoins that I've known without ICO still successful without ICO like Polymath, the greatest advantage of having an ICO is that you have a funds needed to fund or to run the project.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: trauchot on November 04, 2018, 12:56:19 PM
It’s just that companies themselves want to create their own project on their own abilities and capabilities without any interference from other people, maybe some partners still help them with that.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: AltLogan on November 04, 2018, 10:40:17 PM
Few altcoins that I've known without ICO still successful without ICO like Polymath, the greatest advantage of having an ICO is that you have a funds needed to fund or to run the project.

So then ICO is having more potential and can bring more profit?
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: Icon on November 04, 2018, 11:23:17 PM
The main purpose of an ICO is to obtain money in order to start a project. If the project can be launched even without any start up capital, then there is no difference between that coin and those who do ICO.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: samanti on November 04, 2018, 11:44:11 PM
This is a difficult part. The easiest answer: tokens are not a currency. You don’t need to create a Blockchain to issue tokens, which is a must-have for a cryptocurrency, but you use an existing one (usually Ethereum, which was originally created as a platform for smart contracts and evolved to be a currency).
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: flyaccount on November 05, 2018, 03:10:03 AM
Chances are that the coin died because no investor entered. It's possible. But for now the ICO conditions are uncertain and also not as good as last year. I think this will cause the coin to go home by not carrying the ICO. It might be like that, that's all my personal opinion about this.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: WWoF on November 05, 2018, 03:38:57 AM
If you are talking about producing coins with a strong project without collecting money from people. That might be good. You know we saw polymath. I think they collected some money from capital firms but they didint do any crowdsale and they did airdrop to their subscribers. After that they entered binance community voting and they won. because too many people holding these airdrops and they gave their vote to polymath. That seems legit roadmap to entering binance :D . I also think coins without any investment good idea. Because you know these days companies try to collect firstly 20 30 million dollar amount which can cover their payments for next 50 year :D and they are starting to doing their project. But why they wanted money firstly ? they can create their platform and they can do airdrop all of their tokens and if after that platform start to earning money also holder can earn and they can do trade. It seems good for me. But icos want money mate. They will take our all of money and they will feel relax after that.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: ComeBack on November 05, 2018, 03:40:50 AM
The ICO is really important to some projects who need a huge money to start it. Some project preferred to not have an ICO but they still making some way to earn some funds for their project but lessen risk for a huge dump always happening on some project that has an ICO.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: napster on November 05, 2018, 06:18:09 AM
I don't know what exactly do you mean by the phrase "Not ICO". If you mean that last minute quit and airdrop, those are the good ones. I can give you an example of Ontology.
On the other hand, the team might start only by bounty like Mainframe, those are good either.

Of course there are some shitty ones, but you should know what you are looking for.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: Crypto Prime on November 05, 2018, 06:43:09 AM
I think a coin that appears from the results of ico has better prospects than without ico.but we also have to know that it all depends on how the project is, whether it is legit or not. what is certain is that we must be smart in choosing ico to follow.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: Dkingbh on November 05, 2018, 07:41:05 AM
. I consider it more likely to lose my investment when I work with ICO project.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: daviost on November 05, 2018, 07:44:32 AM
First it must be the community driven token, it means they give the airdrop to the community and let the community decide their price in the market
Second it must really have some good technology inside so before they launching the ICO, the private investor already give their some investment so they dont need to run an ICO again.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: Deallove9 on November 05, 2018, 03:25:53 PM
Project without ico are much better now that ico, I think very soon everyone will stop buying into ico as the rate in which scam is looming the ico of a thing is at high side which is spoiling the image of this great technology.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: Ghozrd on November 05, 2018, 03:57:29 PM
I see CryptoSoul is a token issued without ico, even they provide free tokens with more than 5 times airdrop, there are differences between tokens issued without ico and with ico, tokens or coins will quickly develop because they have a large community.
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/cryptosoul/
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: Thegals on November 05, 2018, 04:05:00 PM
Actually it's the same between ICO and no. But it is more convincing to use ICO, because the project is done seriously and has great potential to move forward. If those who don't use have a greater risk, it can be lost at any time and left by Dev. All depends on how we react, provided that we already know the risks in the cryptocurrency business.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: Kinal on November 13, 2018, 11:33:06 AM
If coin are decent they don't need a big promotion for themselves
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: FelixArgyleNya on November 13, 2018, 01:36:36 PM
I wonder is there any difference?
Do they cause more confidence and grow rapidly in price? Or no difference?
Please share your knowledge or opinion.
Well, still don't know enough about ICO, nya?
There is no any differences in price growth
The only question is in their security, nya
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: Mbah Jenggot on November 13, 2018, 01:37:46 PM
Investing in ICO is much more risky than investing in Bitcoin for example.
ICO is a project that can fail for different reasons: weak market, few customers, etc.

If you want to invest in ICO coins you have to check its story and volatility of the coin. You have to do a big research.
So for a novice in crypto it's better to choose something more valuable.

Yes I agree mate. Investing in ICO is more risky than investing in bitcoin. But ICO is more profitable. It is my opinion.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: cukong on November 13, 2018, 03:53:02 PM
this depends on the perspective of the real people, if a coin is seen as an ICO project then the coin is considered to be really serious in carrying out a project, but if it does not already exist, people will consider it still the initial process, or doubtful in choosing the coin
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: Speaker on November 13, 2018, 04:06:43 PM
Investing in ICO is much more risky than investing in Bitcoin for example.
ICO is a project that can fail for different reasons: weak market, few customers, etc.

If you want to invest in ICO coins you have to check its story and volatility of the coin. You have to do a big research.
So for a novice in crypto it's better to choose something more valuable.

Yes I agree mate. Investing in ICO is more risky than investing in bitcoin. But ICO is more profitable. It is my opinion.
ICO is a new trend.Many spend ICO even where it is not necessary.People are not ready to use tokens for their intended purpose. The status of cryptocurrencies is not defined, so it is important that the coins are used as a unit of calculation and a means of accumulation.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: DeKingCrypto on November 13, 2018, 07:02:25 PM
I think the value of such coins will be down.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: mightwalker on November 13, 2018, 07:05:20 PM
I think the value of such coins will be down.

There are some cryptocurrencies without ICOs but have really high price such as Ontology. I think it's all based on its technology and how large is the community who support the project.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: MOProgress on November 13, 2018, 08:13:27 PM
This will depend totally on how the coins are issued, some of them are airdrops. And don't even do ICO while some are purely scam.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: paolobaltimori on November 13, 2018, 10:15:40 PM
I think that if a project is very good and team has the knowledge to attract big investors with private sale ICO is not needed, otherwise ICO is essential for success of a project because otherwise it's difficult to reach a decent amount of money to develop roadmap
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: Bram Manis on November 13, 2018, 11:20:53 PM
Coins without ICO I think it will be very difficult to walk and I think the coin can scam. ICO is very important because more people will get to know this coin and people will be more interested in investing. And a lot of scams like Airdrop have happened, a lot of Airdrop without ICO and finally they scam.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: May on November 13, 2018, 11:28:00 PM
I think it's all based on the technology and how much the community supports the project. There are several cryptocurrency without ICO but have very high prices like Ontology.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: waitingforday on November 14, 2018, 08:51:07 AM
I think it's all based on the technology and how much the community supports the project. There are several cryptocurrency without ICO but have very high prices like Ontology.
Ontology is the pointless coin, only popular coz of stupid feature mining on phones.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: FelixArgyleNya on November 14, 2018, 10:00:51 AM
I think it's all based on the technology and how much the community supports the project. There are several cryptocurrency without ICO but have very high prices like Ontology.
Ontology is the pointless coin, only popular coz of stupid feature mining on phones.
So many mans mo many minds. I think that using phone for mining is not so bad
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: jonathancool220 on November 14, 2018, 10:07:48 AM
It's better for that because ICO is now a lot of fraud.
See how the Bitcoin Cash can stand up to the top 10 coinmarketcap without an ICO.

And you can also see my thread that was created when STO will defeat ICO.
--- >> https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=72823.0
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: Face2Face on November 14, 2018, 01:38:18 PM
I wonder is there any difference?
Do they cause more confidence and grow rapidly in price? Or no difference?
Please share your knowledge or opinion.
As for me, I think that the only difference which is really important - is their difference in security. Their grows is obtained only by customers.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: AltLogan on November 14, 2018, 05:10:38 PM
The main purpose of an ICO is to obtain money in order to start a project. If the project can be launched even without any start up capital, then there is no difference between that coin and those who do ICO.

Really?
That's an interesting opinion.
Where can I read more about this difference?
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: AltLogan on November 14, 2018, 05:15:40 PM
Chances are that the coin died because no investor entered. It's possible. But for now the ICO conditions are uncertain and also not as good as last year. I think this will cause the coin to go home by not carrying the ICO. It might be like that, that's all my personal opinion about this.

So what do you personally prefer? Just to buy and hold crypto?
No ICO?
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: AltLogan on November 14, 2018, 05:17:39 PM
Investing in ICO is much more risky than investing in Bitcoin for example.
ICO is a project that can fail for different reasons: weak market, few customers, etc.

If you want to invest in ICO coins you have to check its story and volatility of the coin. You have to do a big research.
So for a novice in crypto it's better to choose something more valuable.

Yes I agree mate. Investing in ICO is more risky than investing in bitcoin. But ICO is more profitable. It is my opinion.


You mean ICO is more profitable for short term while investing in BTC is less profitable but long term and no risky?
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: cora on November 14, 2018, 05:18:24 PM
more mission that earn robust network and potential supporters would not like ICO because they knew it's going to prevail according to their scaling. this is their method that I think this type of venture are capacity possession to maintain for positive fulfillment will come.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: Dwisinta on November 14, 2018, 05:22:58 PM
usually projects that do not go through the ICO and stand alone in the trading market of course they already have a goal and an estimate that the project has high potential in the future and they will work hard for the development of the project
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: Ramasinta2 on November 14, 2018, 05:32:35 PM
I think selling coins without going through ICO is very good because they will work optimally for coin growth that is being run and now many projects that go through ICO fail
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: emma.lee1890 on November 14, 2018, 06:05:13 PM
A huge number of users participated in this bounty. This is probably one of the biggest scams. 6 months of work ... And the funny thing is that they are going to the second ICO in 2019. No one wants to help them in promoting the reputation of scammers?
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: Gastonic on November 14, 2018, 06:06:57 PM
This is much safer. lol But I think Coins with no ICO offers airdrop and you can say that these projects are not money grabbers.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: Face2Face on November 15, 2018, 09:43:22 AM
I think it's all based on the technology and how much the community supports the project. There are several cryptocurrency without ICO but have very high prices like Ontology.
Ontology is the pointless coin, only popular coz of stupid feature mining on phones.
So many mans mo many minds. I think that using phone for mining is not so bad
How you think it would work?
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: AltLogan on November 17, 2018, 04:09:58 PM
usually projects that do not go through the ICO and stand alone in the trading market of course they already have a goal and an estimate that the project has high potential in the future and they will work hard for the development of the project

so do you believe such projects have long lasting potential and success?
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: AltLogan on November 17, 2018, 04:16:04 PM
I think selling coins without going through ICO is very good because they will work optimally for coin growth that is being run and now many projects that go through ICO fail

Well, can you name some of these projects?
I really have to make a research then.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: ShouldIDidItOrNot on November 22, 2018, 07:49:31 AM
I think selling coins without going through ICO is very good because they will work optimally for coin growth that is being run and now many projects that go through ICO fail

Well, can you name some of these projects?
I really have to make a research then.

For example, 0x
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: AltLogan on November 22, 2018, 01:15:03 PM
A huge number of users participated in this bounty. This is probably one of the biggest scams. 6 months of work ... And the funny thing is that they are going to the second ICO in 2019. No one wants to help them in promoting the reputation of scammers?

Recently my friend told me about scam bounties.
It's really disappointing.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: ivanleon on November 22, 2018, 03:55:38 PM
I wonder is there any difference?
Do they cause more confidence and grow rapidly in price? Or no difference?
Please share your knowledge or opinion.

For example,the phenomenon of the rkt8 coin, which without an ICO, as far as I know, grew when the whole market fell. It is not quite clear what it is based on, but with the proper approach, implementation and work with the community it can be a positive phenomenon. I have nothing against such coins.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: AltLogan on November 23, 2018, 01:31:56 PM
I wonder is there any difference?
Do they cause more confidence and grow rapidly in price? Or no difference?
Please share your knowledge or opinion.

For example,the phenomenon of the rkt8 coin, which without an ICO, as far as I know, grew when the whole market fell. It is not quite clear what it is based on, but with the proper approach, implementation and work with the community it can be a positive phenomenon. I have nothing against such coins.

Thanks.
I will make a research about this case.
But I think it's one on million happens.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: masterrex on November 23, 2018, 02:44:58 PM
I wonder is there any difference?
Do they cause more confidence and grow rapidly in price? Or no difference?
Please share your knowledge or opinion.
Will thats good as long as the platform or the project has already a working product and services to offer it will create a demand to support the project. it will be favorable to all.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: DeKingCrypto on November 23, 2018, 04:24:58 PM
I am afraid but it is already suspected of scam, the developers might decide to dump on traders in an exchange. In some of the experiences I have had.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: Rivaldi Kunkun on November 23, 2018, 09:03:05 PM
Of course, there will be differences in tokens without ICO I think it has more risks. ICO tokens like Airdrop and many fraud programs. But if the token results from ICO, of course, the results will be very good. Because everyone can check and ensure that this project is feasible to follow.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: damsix on November 24, 2018, 02:49:55 AM
That is certain, they were confident at the beginning.
They have strong financial strength because without ICO or gathering investors.

You can see how ANON can grow until now and can already be traded on Cryptopia, TradeSatoshi and IDAX.

--- >>> https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/anon/#markets
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: Crypto Guard on November 24, 2018, 02:52:34 AM
I think it doesn't matter if the coin has good prospects because it will be profitable. but we also have to be careful in choosing it because if we can't choose a good coin then it will make us get the losses.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: Marryan on November 24, 2018, 03:23:36 PM
I think it doesn't matter if the coin has good prospects because it will be profitable. but we also have to be careful in choosing it because if we can't choose a good coin then it will make us get the losses.

Totally agree. Just now thinking of investment, but can't choose anything worthy.
There are so many coins and all of them are not in the best condition. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: dauletbaeffberdakh on November 24, 2018, 03:35:16 PM
I think they are great. If they have their own finances for the project. Now many good projects do not need money to implement their project. Now mostly fraudulent projects are collecting money. I think next year everything will change for the better.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: Speaker on November 24, 2018, 04:09:23 PM
Take even the TOP20-30 coins ranking and you will see that the prices of all of them fell by 80-90 percent.Investirovav now you can make good money,but we should not forget that the fall may continue.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: AltLogan on November 25, 2018, 04:56:16 PM
usually coins or tokens do ICO to promote their products. however there are also folk that do no longer undergo the ICO procedure a usual. CYFM and MFTU are tokens dispensed now not through the ICO mechanism and are indexed in lot of exchanges. This proves that this device without ICO may be achieved because also.
Siacash Coin, Bitcoin Token, Denta Coin are also exampes, they didn't launch the ICO. They reward their supporters via Airdrop and or Bounty. Now they (These tokens) are listed on so many exchanges. Successful project without ICO.

Do you personally think that mentioned airdrops and bounties are not scam?


Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: ShouldIDidItOrNot on November 27, 2018, 09:05:42 AM
Take even the TOP20-30 coins ranking and you will see that the prices of all of them fell by 80-90 percent.Investirovav now you can make good money,but we should not forget that the fall may continue.
Fall will continue, after we will bounce back to 6500 and go even lower
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: expander on November 27, 2018, 09:54:07 AM
the coins that appear from the good ico certainly will also have a high value. but the coins that appear from the ico that fail will have no value. it all depends on the success of a project. therefore we must be able to choose a good ICO to follow.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: dauletbaeffberdakh on November 27, 2018, 10:59:04 AM
I wonder why top projects often do not need to collect money, but for simple projects, just give money.
  It says only that top projects are interested in people and they do not need help from investors. It was good, if it always will be. I'm sick of waiting for the end of sales.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: AltLogan on November 27, 2018, 01:42:06 PM
I look at the opinions were divided, but in my opinion it is more rational to use coins issued with ICO.

Can you explain your opinion?
Why you think it's more reliable?
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: yourbuddy on November 28, 2018, 10:04:04 AM
What is the value of ico-free coins? Only I can't get it?
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: Nate11 on November 28, 2018, 10:37:53 AM
I have come to realize that projects that do not offer icos are most legit and do well more than the ones that offer icos.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: yourbuddy on November 29, 2018, 10:14:50 AM
I have come to realize that projects that do not offer icos are most legit and do well more than the ones that offer icos.
Yes, self funded projects are diligent.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: ShouldIDidItOrNot on November 29, 2018, 10:40:13 AM
What is the value of ico-free coins? Only I can't get it?
ICO free coins just released without ICO, or on closed type on ICO, like GRAM from telegram. They just regular coins.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: giovannucchi on November 29, 2018, 10:42:51 AM
I think that is a brave and trust attempt to finance own projects, because only the market can give you the right value.
So, if the project finds a way to be listed on some Exchange, it's the procedure that I prefer.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: sammysnack on November 30, 2018, 01:07:24 PM
I wish more of the people doing ICOs realized that you cannot defy gravity forever.
If a sh*tcoin protocol raise goes well but you never ship useful software, you will fail
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: AltLogan on December 03, 2018, 03:11:21 PM
I look at the opinions were divided, but in my opinion it is more rational to use coins issued with ICO.

Why you choose like that?
Can you explain your preference?
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: Ahmedalab on December 03, 2018, 03:51:59 PM
I think strong earning community and potential supporters doesn't like ICO because they knew it will succeed according to their scaling.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: Bhussainn2 on December 03, 2018, 10:30:58 PM
project that earn strong community and potential supporters doesn't like ICO because they knew it will succeed according to their scaling. That is their strategy that I think this kind of project are potential possession to hold for sure success will come.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: Gastonic on December 04, 2018, 03:31:21 AM
Airdrop and not conducting any ico is a good idea. Projects who do airdrop instead of ICO are less risky to be under the jurisdiction of SEC. look at ontology. Last time they airdrop 1000 for every users. and its worth $10,000 during all time high.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: pelana vreo on December 04, 2018, 03:55:50 AM
Bitcoin is a coin created without Ico. I think everyone knows the advantages. For new coins without other ico. I am still looking for some additional information. About wallet. Mining.masternode and other information.
New coins without Ico will have many investors. Because the new coins they make are only from Airdrop.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: pedangrusak on December 04, 2018, 08:26:27 AM
if ICO is better and better quality it will support crypto price increases significantly but if what happens now, more projects and fake ICO will give less crypto burden where investors will refrain from plunging into crypto
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: AnDoom on December 04, 2018, 09:42:35 AM
I wonder is there any difference?
Do they cause more confidence and grow rapidly in price? Or no difference?
Please share your knowledge or opinion.

Doesn't matter. The only question what problems these coins solve. For example, MobileGo project. Not sure but it seems to me they are going to create some kind of such a coin and let users utilize it on their ecosystem.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: laughingburger on December 04, 2018, 09:48:00 AM
I wonder is there any difference?
Do they cause more confidence and grow rapidly in price? Or no difference?
Please share your knowledge or opinion.

The main difference i think is that if a coin is issue with ICO is that you not only is investing on the future of that coin and also its product. Whereas coins without ICO you are just purely investing on the future of the coin.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: Malam90 on December 04, 2018, 10:38:12 AM
Recently we have found few projects come from without ICO like-MFTU (Mainstream For The Underground), CYFM (Cyber FM), SeyBlock and few others. The projects are good but we need to investigate more about this because it is a new system without coin offering from ICO.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: AltLogan on December 10, 2018, 11:19:16 AM
Some of them show amazing dedication to the project and gains very big community support.

Well, I was in the whitelist when Ontology decided to go forward with airdrop, and it really went well. I needlessly looked at the project and decided to support them to the end.

Which project you mean?
It would be great if you can share, because in my practice there was a lot of scam.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: AltLogan on December 10, 2018, 11:21:40 AM
Some projects did not hold public ICO as their tokens/coins were sold out at an early stage. There are projects in which all tokens/coins were distributed between funds.

can you please share some of those projects?
it would be great if I can learn more.
thanks in advance
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: diygirl on December 10, 2018, 11:35:00 AM
if the coin does have a good prospect then I think it will benefit nothing without ico. usually a good ico will produce a good coin as well. then we have to be smart in choosing ico to get a profitable result.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: AltLogan on December 12, 2018, 11:12:50 AM
Few altcoins that I've known without ICO still successful without ICO like Polymath, the greatest advantage of having an ICO is that you have a funds needed to fund or to run the project.

Polymath is still profitable?
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: indexx on January 27, 2019, 11:34:44 PM
The price of ICO coins are very cheap now it is because of the less interest of investors to buy and also the effects of bear market. I think the prices can rise immediately when bullrun happens. But for now, it is quite difficult to improve.
Title: Re: What do you think about coins issued without ICO?
Post by: AltLogan on January 28, 2019, 01:47:15 PM
If you are talking about producing coins with a strong project without collecting money from people. That might be good. You know we saw polymath. I think they collected some money from capital firms but they didint do any crowdsale and they did airdrop to their subscribers. After that they entered binance community voting and they won. because too many people holding these airdrops and they gave their vote to polymath. That seems legit roadmap to entering binance :D . I also think coins without any investment good idea. Because you know these days companies try to collect firstly 20 30 million dollar amount which can cover their payments for next 50 year :D and they are starting to doing their project. But why they wanted money firstly ? they can create their platform and they can do airdrop all of their tokens and if after that platform start to earning money also holder can earn and they can do trade. It seems good for me. But icos want money mate. They will take our all of money and they will feel relax after that.

Thanks a lot for your explanation and opinion.
Now it's more clear for me.