Send Karma visible for user!

[Crypto Library]

Because we can't keep count when lot of things are going on so I feel it will be a good effective method and harmless to anyone.

Let's hear your opinions about this from community members.

Also don't forget the vote the poll.

I will prefer karma log to visible when there will not the negative karma other wise what ever we say that forum will not be either a friendly community. But yes negative karma features can be kept only based on certain positions like moderators can give or D.team can give.
Moreover, if the logs of positive karma and negative karma are made visible to everyone, then only a proxy revenge game will continue here, which will not end and spoil the beautiful environment of the forum. So I also want the karma log to be visible in the forum but by removing the negative karma features.

[Freemind]

I will prefer karma log to visible when there will not the negative karma other wise what ever we say that forum will not be either a friendly community. But yes negative karma features can be kept only based on certain positions like moderators can give or D.team can give.
Moreover, if the logs of positive karma and negative karma are made visible to everyone, then only a proxy revenge game will continue here, which will not end and spoil the beautiful environment of the forum. So I also want the karma log to be visible in the forum but by removing the negative karma features.

I don't know what you think, but I see that there is more or less a good atmosphere in the forum, leaving aside some small sparks that soon fade away. And that is precisely in part because Karma logs are not allowed to be public. I also think that making public only positive logs would be incoherent, since we would only show a world of roses and wine.

I think the administrator is not impartial in this matter, since he has said on several occasions that they will not be public. I totally agree with him.

[Crypto Library]

I don't know what you think, but I see that there is more or less a good atmosphere in the forum, leaving aside some small sparks that soon fade away. And that is precisely in part because Karma logs are not allowed to be public. I also think that making public only positive logs would be incoherent, since we would only show a world of roses and wine.

I think the administrator is not impartial in this matter, since he has said on several occasions that they will not be public. I totally agree with him.

I respect the administrator's decision and want to say that since the topic is open and the discussion is going on here, I have expressed my opinion that if it makes the karma logs visible to everyone, it would be better not to have the negative karma option. I don't know if karma logs will be made visible in the future, but I still have this opinion that if karma logs are done, it would be better not to keep the negative karma features.
Because the features of this forum are currently seen as friendly but the negative karma features can create personal conflict if they are visible. Now the administrator can explain why he is not making it visible. If it brings something bad for the community, I will support him.

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I respect the administrator's decision and want to say that since the topic is open and the discussion is going on here, I have expressed my opinion that if it makes the karma logs visible to everyone, it would be better not to have the negative karma option. I don't know if karma logs will be made visible in the future, but I still have this opinion that if karma logs are done, it would be better not to keep the negative karma features.
Because the features of this forum are currently seen as friendly but the negative karma features can create personal conflict if they are visible. Now the administrator can explain why he is not making it visible. If it brings something bad for the community, I will support him.

Both positive and negative karma will have a similar effect, each in its own way. If possible, it would be good to have such an opportunity. There is no need to see who gave whom a karma point, but only how much + or - karma a certain post received

The option of visibility of karma points on the post is not part of the current system and in order to enable it, it is necessary to modify the existing code. So it's not about the admin not wanting to check the 'enable karma' checkbox, the matter is more complicated.

An excellent example is Reddit, where you can see only the number of karma points, but not who gave them. Accounts with a large number of positive karma write useful or at least interesting content for sure.
Recently, X (ex-Twitter) also removed the possibility of public inspection of who liked a certain post.
Some examples that work, and you should follow them, there is no need to invent hot water.

[Agbe]

There is way that the log can be visible and the sender name would not be seen. It is only the post the Karma was given and as the Op said, let the earned Karmas of 30, 90 , 120, and 150 days karma log should be visible so that we know if we are doing well in the month or within the 90 days. This as been on discussion in different threads but it seen that, that cannot help and the decision of the admin is okay for everyone because he knows the best way out.

[Mia Chloe]

An excellent example is Reddit, where you can see only the number of karma points, but not who gave them. Accounts with a large number of positive karma write useful or at least interesting content for sure.
Recently, X (ex-Twitter) also removed the possibility of public inspection of who liked a certain post.
Some examples that work, and you should follow them, there is no need to invent hot water.

You have a nice suggestion and point here. I the past when I created a thread concerning karma and seeing who sent you karma and stuff like that, if I can remember clearly one of the I think board moderator of so made mention that the hidden karma details is actually to prevent fights and enemity especially in the case of negative Karma.  And in that case people can easily send any of both positive or negative Karma.

However the number of karma a post has accumulated would be nice as it can even help members spot very useful and important posts. Also on the side of the  OP of the thread he would be able to attend least tell which of the contributions on the forum that he actually earned that karma from.

[Freemind]

I respect the administrator's decision and want to say that since the topic is open and the discussion is going on here, I have expressed my opinion that if it makes the karma logs visible to everyone, it would be better not to have the negative karma option. I don't know if karma logs will be made visible in the future, but I still have this opinion that if karma logs are done, it would be better not to keep the negative karma features.
Because the features of this forum are currently seen as friendly but the negative karma features can create personal conflict if they are visible. Now the administrator can explain why he is not making it visible. If it brings something bad for the community, I will support him.

I assure you that I think it's great that you express your opinion on this topic, that's what the forum is for, in fact, the more opinions and points of view we have, the better we will understand and approach things, but as I said, I understand that the administrator is not flexible on this issue. I know that you have read on several occasions that this is a friendly forum, and that is how I see it, but that does not mean that we do not have a tool like negative Karma to "punish" in some way the users who repeatedly break the rules, among other types of uses.

I think the administrator has already explained the reasons on more than one occasion, so I don't think he will do it again.

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The option of visibility of karma points on the post is not part of the current system and in order to enable it, it is necessary to modify the existing code. So it's not about the admin not wanting to check the 'enable karma' checkbox, the matter is more complicated.

The admin talked yesterday about what you mention and it seems like it takes a lot of testing to get it to work without errors.

Karma associated to post .

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I will say that its better that we have the karma to be anonymous as it was, because some will be interested in knowing who and who are giving them positive or negative karma and that alone can raise for sentiment between members, then we may also be surprised in knowing how some members are earning their karma and from the posts which it was being given to them, some things were better off our sights to avoid issues.

[Freemind]

I will say that its better that we have the karma to be anonymous as it was, because some will be interested in knowing who and who are giving them positive or negative karma and that alone can raise for sentiment between members, then we may also be surprised in knowing how some members are earning their karma and from the posts which it was being given to them, some things were better off our sights to avoid issues.

Precisely because of what you say, Karma logs (positive and negative) will not be made public. The problems that would be created would be much more serious than the positive things that could be achieved. That's why I always say the same thing when we talk about Karma. It is better to leave things as they are to avoid problems. In any case, I know that there will be users who will insist on making the logs public, in this thread or in others.

Focusing on improving the forum is the best thing we can do to keep it growing.

[yhiaali3]

agree with the opinion that showing the number of positive or negative karma that the post gets without knowing who gave negative or positive karma, this will reduce the drama of abusing the system a lot and at the same time the post owner knows whether he writes well or badly.

However, if the moderator sees that it is better not to show karma on the post, it is possible for each member to have the option to see his karma log, I think this will be very useful for the member to know the posts that received positive or negative karma because this helps improve the quality of writing and avoid mistakes.

[Freemind]

agree with the opinion that showing the number of positive or negative karma that the post gets without knowing who gave negative or positive karma, this will reduce the drama of abusing the system a lot and at the same time the post owner knows whether he writes well or badly.

However, if the moderator sees that it is better not to show karma on the post, it is possible for each member to have the option to see his karma log, I think this will be very useful for the member to know the posts that received positive or negative karma because this helps improve the quality of writing and avoid mistakes.

The problem with what you say (as I said in one of my previous posts) is the difficulty of implementing the idea of ​​seeing Karma in each post, since as the administrator said (you can read it in the post that I leave below) he have had a lot of problems with the tests he have done so far and currently doing more tests would take up a lot of time that he need for other things. Therefore the idea is put on hold until the administrator has more time.

Karma associated to post .

[JISAN]

I will prefer the karma to be seen by everybody so that the karma will not be abused. Karma can easily be abuse which is the reason we should be able to see it.

Yes it is true but there is also a negative side. Because there is an option of -karma so if it is visible then if someone gives negative karma to someone there will be a chaos in this forum due to which some may become personal enemies. So if it is decided to make the karma issue possible then the -karma option should be omitted. Then only +karma should be there like merit of btt forum. Then it will be good and if someone does avue it will also be caught very easily. I think there should be something like that

[Fivestar4everMVP]

We knew that Karma log is not visible for anyone to avoid drama related to sending negative Karma which all understandable but how about we have a system like which we can see how much karma we send in the last 30/60days and that will be only accessible by the user not by anyone else that doesn't contradicting with the reason why Karma is not public but also will help us to analyze whether we are using the Karma effectively.

Because we can't keep count when lot of things are going on so I feel it will be a good effective method and harmless to anyone.

Let's hear your opinions about this from community members.

Also don't forget the vote the poll.

As much as I think and find the idea to be a really good one, I still took the last option in the pool, and this is because I don't see any way this feature stand to benefit the user or the forum in general, and besides, such a feature can actually be built by capable users as an external information site for this forum, like we have on bitcointalk with bpip and ninjastic.

Only thing is, information on sent and received karma for every user becomes public, and I think that is more beneficial for us, since we get to actually know the users who are only bent on recieving karma, and never willing to also give out.

I think I will create a thread on this much later when this thread must have been buried, I consider this a very important feature for us all to consider.

[kulkhan]

I think Karma should be visible for users. Then it will be more transparent. Now we we are seeing many people farming Karma. They are creating team informing Karma with each other. And some people giving negative Karma without any reason I think. I am old member in this from I know about from rules. And i follow rules. But I think regularly giving me negative Karma. When send Karma will be visible then we will able to understand why I get positive Karma or negative karma.

[Freemind]

I think Karma should be visible for users. Then it will be more transparent. Now we we are seeing many people farming Karma. They are creating team informing Karma with each other. And some people giving negative Karma without any reason I think. I am old member in this from I know about from rules. And i follow rules. But I think regularly giving me negative Karma. When send Karma will be visible then we will able to understand why I get positive Karma or negative karma.

The solution to potential problems arising from Karma abuse is not to make public who the offending user is or who the victim is. The solution is for the administrator, judges and moderators to sanction the offender or offenders and return the Karma to the affected user. I know I always say the same thing about this and I will continue to say it because I believe it is the least toxic way to maintain a friendly environment on the forum.

Although many users think otherwise, making Karma visible would only bring confrontations and meaningless discussions.