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Author Topic: Veil Spammers?  (Read 11520 times)

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Veil Spammers?
« on: April 15, 2019, 10:01:56 AM »
It looks like a project called Veil is running a bounty campaign and one of which is to promote in different forums. I just noticed these two newbie accounts and looking at their post history, it appears they're only here to post about Veil.

Account: Lektai
- The Emergence of Privacy Coins, Challenges & Solution Offered by Veil Technology
- Veil - offering privacy and anonymity
- Ever seen a cryptocurrency use Proof of work and proof of stake together??


Account: Giletto
- The Emergence of Privacy Coins, Challenges & Solution Offered by Veil Technology
- Veil seems similar to Monero but quite unique in serving the privacy sphere

Can this be considered as spamming?

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Veil Spammers?
« on: April 15, 2019, 10:01:56 AM »

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Re: Veil Spammers?
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2019, 09:15:00 PM »
I just checked their bounty thread. They do have forum advertising and Altcoinstalks was one of the recommended forums. Somehow it's a good thing that they recognize this forum and they also help advertise this. But if they only came here and repeatedly post about that project with no plan to discuss other things, then it can be called spamming.

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Re: Veil Spammers?
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2019, 09:40:17 PM »

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Re: Veil Spammers?
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2019, 10:13:39 PM »
Yes these two accounts are spammers in my opinion, and should be labeled as such. Lektai has posted a new topic every day regarding Veil (that I have merged together & moved), even after I warned users in that thread about repeatedly spamming the project. I think this is likely a case of multi-accounts under the same IP.

It's good they are considering this forum for their bounty, but their actions aren't helping the project. I'll try reach out to the bounty manager regarding these accounts.

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Re: Veil Spammers?
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2019, 12:10:43 AM »
Probably worth mentioning that Veil project's bounty includes altcoinstalks posts, but is reported on bitcointalk (not here). Not sure how I feel about this but I don't think it should be allowed it. If this project wants to do a sig bounty on altcoinstalks, then can run one on this bounty forum, not "forum adveritsing" managed elsewhere. Note some are high ranking members, but many have -K due to how spammy this campaign is.

List of bct bounty posts using altcoinstalks posts:
ZloiRediska: bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5125073.msg50644770#msg50644770
shinratensei: bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5125073.msg50630954#msg50630954
Psynthax: bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5125073.msg50631849#msg50631849
Lektai: bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5125073.msg50635244#msg50635244
Giletto: bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5125073.msg50625468#msg50625468
dentolas: bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5125073.msg50620324#msg50620324
tbossmitche: bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5125073.msg50625309#msg50625309
LogiC: bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5125073.msg50610626#msg50610626
Collinberg: bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5125073.msg50611424#msg50611424
Alive: bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5125073.msg50599983#msg50599983
olamidey: bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5125073.msg50576224#msg50576224
Nuxxorcoin: bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5125073.msg50576263#msg50576263
ZloiRediska: bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5125073.msg50558112#msg50558112
anu1980: bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5125073.msg50511130#msg50511130

Bare in mind this isn't a signature campaign, it's part of their "Forum Advertising":

Quote from: Veil Bounty
Posts must be made on any large cryptocurrency forum. A brief list is available below, but any large cryptocurrency forum is fine:
https://bitcoingarden.org/forum/index.php?board=3.0
https://no linkss to other crypto forums /
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/
https://no links to other forums/
Posts must be related to Veil.

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Re: Veil Spammers?
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2019, 06:33:04 PM »
They're all still at it, and I'm still deleting these new topics. If they want a thread they can have one, but they can't have dozens of threads every week.
I've contacted the bounty manager about not accepting members with -K, which is at least most of these participants now.
Please keep reporting any blatantly spamming posts that you see from this bunch, thanks.
« Last Edit: April 20, 2019, 06:45:50 PM by dragononcrypto »

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Re: Veil Spammers?
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2019, 06:33:04 PM »


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Re: Veil Spammers?
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2019, 03:18:46 PM »
Update: Have spoken to Parodium (bounty manager) and they will be implementing stricter rules within the second month of the Veil bounty, which starts tomorrow. They have agreed to remove members with negative karma from their campaign and actively discourage users posting new threads as part of the forum avertising bounty. This is a good start!


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Re: Veil Spammers?
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2019, 07:41:20 PM »
Now I understand why there are so many references to this project.
I answered a man in one of these topics, but it seemed to be useless.
I think, we can make "-" to spammers and complain about those topics.


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Re: Veil Spammers?
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2019, 10:12:54 AM »
Another one who came here only to promote veil

https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=53165

Thanks Zed, though no worries about reporting users anymore, the bitcointalk bounty thread reports all the relevant shill posts made here to review and trash as necessary.
(Sunday = spam trashing day)


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Re: Veil Spammers?
« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2019, 01:44:02 AM »
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?board=355.0

here's a section to send all those that create many posts due to bounty etc,

mods please send spamy posts to there, this way we can give them more negative karma

PS:
Spamy: crypto related - but repetitive posting > move to new section
Spam: not crypto related - possibly automated > report
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Re: Veil Spammers?
« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2019, 01:03:11 PM »
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?board=355.0

here's a section to send all those that create many posts due to bounty etc,

mods please send spamy posts to there, this way we can give them more negative karma

PS:
Spamy: crypto related - but repetitive posting > move to new section
Spam: not crypto related - possibly automated > report

Nice work, I've moved the rest of M2 Week 1's bct reported posts to there, as the week ended yesterday (for veil bounty). Hopefully the bounty manager will decide to give up rewarding participants to spam on this forum if the bounty hunters posts aren't available in the relevant threads.

PS have stickied a notice for now, though posts have already started to spread out to other forum sections (probably since I trash so many in alts discussions).

Forum Advertising Bounties are disruptive to the forum by indiscriminately promoting projects for bounty rewards.

Your topics/comments will be moved to the Incentivised Posting forum section and you will receive negative karma if you do either of the following:

  • Sign up here solely to promote a project for a forum advertising bounty.
  • Report posts for promoting a project to a "posts-related-to-project" style forum advertising bounty.

To report Incentivised Posting, click here, please do not use the "Report to moderator" button.

What is Forum Advertising?
  • Posting specifically to promote a particular project whereby participants are rewarded for their "posts related to project", either by quality or quantity.
  • This advertising attempts to make projects appear more popular than they actually are (which often disadvantages newbies unaware).
  • Just like other forms of explicit advertising that is posted in this section, it will therefore be moved.
  • Signature bounties are not considered as Forum Advertising. This is about post content.
  • Example: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=109299.0
« Last Edit: May 08, 2019, 03:03:54 PM by dragononcrypto »

 

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