[Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread

[Rruchi man]

Chelsea and Liverpool have filled their position manager for next season and likely waiting with future of Erik ten Hag keep become Manchester United manager or not?

If the management of Manchester United were going to let him go, they would quickly need to do it because many clubs are changing their coaches and the services of Erik Ten Hag may be needed at another club. Even though his career so far at Manchester United may not be considered by many as successful, his records at other clubs cannot be ignored.

Defeating Manchester City in the finals is the only straw that is holding the job and making decisions harder to reach, Had he lost that finals, Manchester United management would have made their opinion on his job very clear by now. It is better for them to keep him, he is good for them.

[ajiz138]

Manchester United finished in 8th place in the Premier League this season, but they can still occupy a place in the European League after they managed to become champions in the FA Cup. Previously I thought they would be without a title this season, but they can get it.

They still have a lot of work to do, they have been very inconsistent this season, even though if we look at the composition of the players, they actually have a good squad.

Had it been they didn't mysteriously win Manchester City, don't you think they will be in a bigger mess than where they are already? Erik Ten had the worst season with the club and if you look at his yearly stay in the club, his performance has continued to decline over the season, who knows where the  are going to end up in the next season.

The FA cup looks too easy but I don't have anything to justify my doubt. However, are they going to do much in Europa League next season? I'm not sure because that league looks underrated but looks tougher.

To be honest, I'm not really sure based on what I've seen this season, because they are playing far from expectations, so that doubt is always in my mind.

If they are still like this season, then I don't think they will do much. We can also see what they experienced in the Champions League this season, everything looks bad.

But I also won't rule out the possibility that they will be better than this season, but that depends on them.

[Gurujebs]

To be honest, I'm not really sure based on what I've seen this season, because they are playing far from expectations, so that doubt is always in my mind.

If they are still like this season, then I don't think they will do much. We can also see what they experienced in the Champions League this season, everything looks bad.

But I also won't rule out the possibility that they will be better than this season, but that depends on them.

It doesn't rule out anything but or with this players, there has to be some fix up in some of them, dispose some and get some fresh guys. It's really sad to see how these guys has turn these club to a garbage club without any achievement, there was two trophy but they are coming down, the club that used to be best in the Premier League trophy is struggling to win one since many seasons right now.

It's either make a switch for the players or change the man who controls the players and that's Erik Hag replacement, there is a lot of controversies around him they should have resolve a long time but the club is playing blind and that is hurting the team. The fans has even given up and not complaining unlike my Chelsea people.

[salad daging]

Maresca is a young coach who has consistently employed a collective and attacking style of play, prioritizing ball possession. This aligns with the football philosophy espoused by Chelsea and his 36-win record when he led Leicester City to promotion to the EPL was a significant factor in Chelsea management's decision to recruit him.
And I think Maresca's appointment as Chelsea coach could be good news for the young players who were previously neglected in the Pochettino era, like Broja, Ian Maatsen, and Andrey Santos.

We don't know how Maresca will handle Chelsea in the coming season, if he has a good match record with Leicerster it shouldn't be a big test even though I know the Premier League competition is quite tight, but Maresca has a pretty good philosophy.

[ajiz138]

To be honest, I'm not really sure based on what I've seen this season, because they are playing far from expectations, so that doubt is always in my mind.

If they are still like this season, then I don't think they will do much. We can also see what they experienced in the Champions League this season, everything looks bad.

But I also won't rule out the possibility that they will be better than this season, but that depends on them.

It doesn't rule out anything but or with this players, there has to be some fix up in some of them, dispose some and get some fresh guys. It's really sad to see how these guys has turn these club to a garbage club without any achievement, there was two trophy but they are coming down, the club that used to be best in the Premier League trophy is struggling to win one since many seasons right now.

It's either make a switch for the players or change the man who controls the players and that's Erik Hag replacement, there is a lot of controversies around him they should have resolve a long time but the club is playing blind and that is hurting the team. The fans has even given up and not complaining unlike my Chelsea people.

So when they throw away players and bring in new players, I hope they can do it well, don't let the players they bring in have really been considered well and it's based on the team's needs.

Because I saw some of the transfers they made recently, it was based on their good relationship with the coach. I think that is a healthy thing, because in the end the player is like a "golden child" by the coach.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I don't think Manchester City will do that (underestimating Manchester United), because they are a big team who will definitely know the risks if they underestimate their opponent.

Manchester United performed well, especially in defense, they were difficult to penetrate. On the other hand, Manchester City made more internal mistakes in their game, so that it ultimately made it difficult for them to penetrate the Manchester United defense.

For me, the MU has always been a team that will always be great, they need to do things better, and I think that the club's biggest mistake has been Ten Hag, I will always say that, because he is a coach who only does what he Says and everything in its own way and in that way you cannot build a team, it has to be with more freedoms, for now they have won the FA Cup , it is Something that I congratulate them, but for the MU to win, they need a change of caoch and urgently, One chaos is the FA Cup, another is the PL and at least they get to a place where they play the UCL.

If you say Manchester United is a great team, I think everyone will agree with that, but if you say they are a team that will always be great, then there will be differences of opinion, including me also having a different opinion.

For me they are not that great now, and it is evident that even in the English league they are not getting a good place this season. they have experienced a decline in performance so they are not as great as before, but they can still restore their great identity, as long as they make changes that can make them better.

Well, Man United is a team that has done well, they are already generating new ways of doing things better, I have a very clear opinion, as long as Ten Hag is there and doesn't leave this team will progress further, I say that there are good players, they are very talented, but personally I have always seen that when we are watching a game of theirs they have stars that they cannot exploit given the direction of their coach.

And I think that what Ten Hag did is a fact, but personally if they do it I don't blame them it is a decision that will always have good repercussions.

Man United to make Erik ten Hag sacking decision imminently, says Fabrizio Romano

The Dutchman is facing the axe at Old Trafford despite winning the FA Cup after a dreadful Premier League campaign that saw United finish eighth – their lowest ever position – and also concede a record number of goals.

They also crashed out bottom of a relatively easy Champions League group and the style of football played throughout the season was negative and chaotic.

In his Daily Briefing today, Romano confirmed that “There have been really important meetings at Manchester United this week as they hold their internal review over the season and over the future of … Ten Hag.”

Source: https://thepeoplesperson.com/2024/06/02/man-united-to-make-erik-ten-hag-sacking-decision-imminently-fabrizio-romano281075-281075/

[JoyMarsha]

Chelsea and Liverpool have filled their position manager for next season and likely waiting with future of Erik ten Hag keep become Manchester United manager or not?

Since there's no other news between the management of Manchester United and Ten Hag, I believe that they want to give Ten Hag a chance since he won the FA Cup trophy and made Manchester United qualify for the Europa League when no one believes they can do that, to win the mighty Manchester City 2:1. However, I don't know whether that is enough reason to keep Ten Hag or not, or looking for other solutions like "signing new players" than sacking coaches while the problem of the team is still there without finding a lasting solution to why the team is not performing as expected since Sir Fugerson retired as being the Manchester United coach

[Uruhara]

So when they throw away players and bring in new players, I hope they can do it well, don't let the players they bring in have really been considered well and it's based on the team's needs.

Because I saw some of the transfers they made recently, it was based on their good relationship with the coach. I think that is a healthy thing, because in the end the player is like a "golden child" by the coach.

Some coaches always do the same thing as Ten Hag, namely bringing in players who have good relationships or something like that. But sometimes things don't always end well. Because sometimes judgments can be wrong due to placing too much emphasis on good past relationships, such as having worked together at another club or something like that. I prefer coaches to choose based on the qualities the team needs. And never make anyone's be golden boy on the team. Because children take advantage of one of the players, sometimes it causes jealousy between the players and sometimes invites conflict and disharmony between the players. If we look closely, there is actually a rift within the Man United squad. But apart from all that, Ten Hag is a coach who has great tactics. We can see how this team always creates good opportunities even though many are wasted. Ten hag survive or not I hope it remains the best for everyone. If Ten Hag is fired from Man United, he will definitely immediately find another team that will accommodate him. And Man United will definitely find another new coach who can also be expected to bring good changes. Hopefully the decision is made well there.

[Sim_card]

Chelsea and Liverpool have filled their position manager for next season and likely waiting with future of Erik ten Hag keep become Manchester United manager or not?

Since there's no other news between the management of Manchester United and Ten Hag, I believe that they want to give Ten Hag a chance since he won the FA Cup trophy and made Manchester United qualify for the Europa League when no one believes they can do that, to win the mighty Manchester City 2:1. However, I don't know whether that is enough reason to keep Ten Hag or not, or looking for other solutions like "signing new players" than sacking coaches while the problem of the team is still there without finding a lasting solution to why the team is not performing as expected since Sir Fugerson retired as being the Manchester United coach

Sacking Ten Hag will not also solve any problem and who knows how the performance of the new coach will be like. The main aim of participating in any competition is to win a trophy, and Ten Hag was able to win FA Cup with their last match, and that was what was considered by United management to keep him because nobody saw that coming and United won the best club in a finals. That shows the Ten Hag has some good qualities in him that can make him perform better next season. United won the FA Cup and will be playing in Europa next season despite their poor performance so it is a big achievement by Eric Ten Hag and his men.

[Uruhara]

Sacking Ten Hag will not also solve any problem and who knows how the performance of the new coach will be like. The main aim of participating in any competition is to win a trophy, and Ten Hag was able to win FA Cup with their last match, and that was what was considered by United management to keep him because nobody saw that coming and United won the best club in a finals. That shows the Ten Hag has some good qualities in him that can make him perform better next season. United won the FA Cup and will be playing in Europa next season despite their poor performance so it is a big achievement by Eric Ten Hag and his men.

Firing a coach also has its own risks. Because that means the club has to adapt to the new coach who will be brought in. but let's just see whether Ten Hag will be fired or not. Man United did get good results by winning the title in the FA Cup. But still, we must not forget that Man United was only able to finish in 8th place in the Premier League standings at this time, which makes this the worst season for Man United compared to previous seasons in the Premier League. Let's just look at the past few seasons. And surely we will realize that Man United has never been this bad.

[Rruchi man]

We don't know how Maresca will handle Chelsea in the coming season, if he has a good match record with Leicerster it shouldn't be a big test even though I know the Premier League competition is quite tight, but Maresca has a pretty good philosophy.

Was the same not said for Pochettino and Graham Potter before he joined Chelsea? There is lots of hype and expectation. We will never know until the season fully begins and we see how tactically sound he is against the other managers in the Premier League.

[vegasus]

So when they throw away players and bring in new players, I hope they can do it well, don't let the players they bring in have really been considered well and it's based on the team's needs.

Because I saw some of the transfers they made recently, it was based on their good relationship with the coach. I think that is a healthy thing, because in the end the player is like a "golden child" by the coach.

Several mistakes were made and the results were not optimal enough, one of which was the selection of players. There are players whose results are quite good or even very good as members of a club, but there are also those who are the opposite. Because, it's really not easy for every person who wants to immediately make a very optimal contribution to a club. Sometimes they actually don't match the style of the manager and coach. So yes, it would be quite useless and not very effective to bring in a player without discussing and analyzing the person first.

[salad daging]

We don't know how Maresca will handle Chelsea in the coming season, if he has a good match record with Leicerster it shouldn't be a big test even though I know the Premier League competition is quite tight, but Maresca has a pretty good philosophy.

Was the same not said for Pochettino and Graham Potter before he joined Chelsea? There is lots of hype and expectation. We will never know until the season fully begins and we see how tactically sound he is against the other managers in the Premier League.

I just hope for Chelsea not to repeat like Graham Potter and Pochettino, but really we will never know before the season starts at least until halfway through the season.
But with the change of coach of course I think there is always a change whether it is at the beginning or at the end or Maresca can stay at the beginning until the end we hope they can overcome Chelsea.

[ajiz138]

So when they throw away players and bring in new players, I hope they can do it well, don't let the players they bring in have really been considered well and it's based on the team's needs.

Because I saw some of the transfers they made recently, it was based on their good relationship with the coach. I think that is a healthy thing, because in the end the player is like a "golden child" by the coach.

Several mistakes were made and the results were not optimal enough, one of which was the selection of players. There are players whose results are quite good or even very good as members of a club, but there are also those who are the opposite. Because, it's really not easy for every person who wants to immediately make a very optimal contribution to a club. Sometimes they actually don't match the style of the manager and coach. So yes, it would be quite useless and not very effective to bring in a player without discussing and analyzing the person first.

Yes, I realize that when bringing in a player is not possible with a 100% success rate, there will definitely be players who ultimately fail to contribute to the team. However, they can minimize this because they have everything they need.

For example, talent scouts or technical directors can provide input on which players could make a big contribution if they were brought in. Things like this are not far from things like that, and they can maximize it as best as possible.

[Uruhara]

To be honest, I'm not really sure based on what I've seen this season, because they are playing far from expectations, so that doubt is always in my mind.

If they are still like this season, then I don't think they will do much. We can also see what they experienced in the Champions League this season, everything looks bad.

But I also won't rule out the possibility that they will be better than this season, but that depends on them.

Everyone now feels the same way as you. That is, we here also feel doubts from the club. There must be big changes at the club. Whether it is a change of coach or additional quality players. But even if there is a change in coach, we will definitely still have doubts. Because bringing in a new coach will not immediately make the club experience significant improvement. unless there is a coach like Xabi Alonso who makes big changes at Leverkusen. Maybe Man United should also look for a coach who can do the same thing as Xabi Alonso. But the problem is that Man United is a big club that has many star players in their squad. So a really experienced trainer is needed to handle it.